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Today's Topics:

   1. AO 73 Program problem (Rich/wa4bue)
   2. Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw (Edward R Cole)
   3. Re: FW:  SATPC32 & AO73 question (Ted)
   4. Re: AO 73 Program problem (Stefan Wagener)
   5. Re: AO 73 Program problem (Alan)
   6. Re: AO 73 Program problem (Rich/wa4bue)
   7. Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw (Stefan Wagener)
   8. Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw (Alan)
   9. Re: FW:  SATPC32 & AO73 question (Alan)
  10. Re: AO 73 Program problem (Alan)
  11. Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw (Jeff Griffin)
  12. Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations
      (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 16:35:33 -0500
From: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 73 Program problem
Message-ID: <A1FE9645727149A08D1BC7B802BBE0F1@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original

We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.

We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.

The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is incorrect and
shows FM mode!

We rechecked our inputs.

What happened?

God Bless

Rich
W4BUE



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 12:55:29 -0900
From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw
Message-ID: <201312012155.rB1LtT11072675@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

I very rarely post anything to this reflector, but I have a question
that maybe someone has already has done and has answers.

Shortly Elecraft will be offering a 2m module for its popular new SDR
radio, the KX3.  This will provide 2m multi-mode operation using this
nice little HF/6m radio.

Some years ago I sold my old satellite radios (FT-847 & FT-817) so am
looking into a two radio configuration for cross-band duplex
satellite operation.  I have a K3 with 435-437 transmit capability
using a Down East Microwave transverter and would be able to receive
on 145 using the new KX3-2M combo.  (I also still have my s-band
downconverter and L-band up converter for if/when these bands are activated).

What is unknown is if there is any sw support of the Elecraft radios
on any satellite tracking sw? I am primarily interested in SSB thru
transponders so frequency tracking under sw control would be
"nice".  I have both NOVA and SatPC32.  I have a tracking interface
to control antenna tracking using a B5400 Yaesu az-el rotator.  Both
these radios have computer control ports.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
"Kits made by KL7UW"



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 13:58:31 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'CC' <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW:  SATPC32 & AO73 question
Message-ID: <002601ceeee0$79a0a820$6ce1f860$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Thanks Alan,

All of those items are as they should be. I did end up pushing the vfo/m
button and something changed. The freqs are where they should be and
holding. Radio and program are displaying the same numbers

Question on a setting: under Mode, 'uplink+downlink' checked and 'doppler
shift' checked...is that ok?

Thanks again

73, Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 11:25 AM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Cc: CC
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question

Ted,

Some questions.

Does this problem only happen on AO-73, or all of them?
In the Radio Setup, do you have Satellite Mode (Satelliten Modus) checked?
Is the SAT mode light on under CAT control?
Do you have the FT-847 TRACK mode selected?  If so, turn it off as in
conflicts with the CAT control.

Are you using a USB dongle for a serial port?  What is the CAT port delay?

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA



<-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Ted
<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:44 PM
<To: 'AMSAT-BB'
<Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question < <Any help appreciated <
<73, Ted < <-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
<Behalf Of Ted
<Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 2:23 PM
<To: 'AMSAT-BB'
<Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 & AO73 question < <Hi all, < < < <In spite of
my usual ineptness with this program, I have <managed to have it <talking to
my FT-847, downloaded the keps for AO73 and appear <to be tracking <it!!
<
<
<
<However, I can't seem to get the radio to hold the up/dn <frequencies in
the <proper VFO's. I start out with the uplink showing in VFOA, but <after a
min <or so the frequencies swap and I have to use the a><b button <to get
them <back.
<
<
<
<Am I missing a setting?
<
<
<
<Any help appreciated
<
<
<
<And Happy Thanksgiving to all
<
<
<
<73, Ted
<
<K7TRK
<
<_______________________________________________
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<
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:00:06 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHD=9fq1tO0Vm9YNgv2ko+HkEaVx4uJbuFcBMXh0vkea1A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Rich,

please cheek your doppler.sqf file and the entries in there under AO-73.
SatPC32 will use/display whatever is written in there. Sometimes it is a
messed up entry, wrong comma etc. The format is very specific and important.

Hope that helps,

Merry Christmas to you.

Stefan, VE4NSA


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:

> We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.
>
> We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.
>
> The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is incorrect and
> shows FM mode!
>
> We rechecked our inputs.
>
> What happened?
>
> God Bless
>
> Rich
> W4BUE
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:10:40 -0600
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: CC <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem
Message-ID: <ADD3FE2D77B44AE19FD8AE6E4032CD77@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Rich,

Rig?

What is the uplink frequency, approximately, and does it Doppler tune during
a pass?

Actual DOPPLER.SQF information?  Cut and paste!

Using AMSATNAMES.TXT?  Information.

Never hurts for an outsider to look over your work.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Rich/wa4bue
<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:36 PM
<To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
<Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 73 Program problem
<
<We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.
<
<We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.
<
<The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is
<incorrect and
<shows FM mode!
<
<We rechecked our inputs.
<
<What happened?
<
<God Bless
<
<Rich
<W4BUE
<
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of
<the author.
<Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
<satellite program!
<Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<



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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 17:19:35 -0500
From: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Ed Williams <sunset392@xxx.xxx>, Bill <wbr@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem
Message-ID: <DBAEF02A0F8B4519A98EADD5BF6B208D@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original

Downlink freq:  145.93350 and yes it is Doppler controlled.

We are going to check our inputs again tomorrow
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "CC" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem


> Rich,
>
> Rig?
>
> What is the uplink frequency, approximately, and does it Doppler tune
> during a pass?
>
> Actual DOPPLER.SQF information?  Cut and paste!
>
> Using AMSATNAMES.TXT?  Information.
>
> Never hurts for an outsider to look over your work.
>
> 73s,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
> <[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Rich/wa4bue
> <Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:36 PM
> <To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> <Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 73 Program problem
> <
> <We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.
> <
> <We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.
> <
> <The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is
> <incorrect and
> <shows FM mode!
> <
> <We rechecked our inputs.
> <
> <What happened?
> <
> <God Bless
> <
> <Rich
> <W4BUE
> <
> <_______________________________________________
> <Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of
> <the author.
> <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
> <satellite program!
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> <
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:21:43 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Edward R Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHAZ2wOL8mFk6CMmxDXOcU-ijV7wJkj4p2vAxyOXRepE6A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Hi Ed,



Very good question and an important one!



With the more and more frequent use of ?alternate? radios for satellite
work, software support is important. In general, and others please correct
me, the primary satellite programs like SatPC32, Orbitron, MacDoppler etc
have provide support for the classical satellite radios like FT-847,
TS-2000, IC-910 and respective older models, but not for any SDR based
radios unless they support an existing command (CAT) format like the
Flexradios work with the TS-2000 command set.



Now, having said that, programs like HamRadioDeluxe have a satellite
function (doppler control) and support a much larger set of radios. Also,
the version 2 SDR software from Simon Brown supports satellites. It is
important to investigate the radio models they support and/or emulate to
see if your specific set-up is covered. I assume the more SDR radios and
specifically VHF/UHF radios like the BladeRF and Etus Research become
popular and software supported, the more the current satellite program
developers (if interested) will add functionality. The future looks bright
for future SDR full duplex VHF/UHF radios. We are just not there yet J and
I would guess they are not coming from the big three (Icom. Yaesu or
Kenwood).



Hope this helps a little.


73, Stefan VE4NSA


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Edward R Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> I very rarely post anything to this reflector, but I have a question that
> maybe someone has already has done and has answers.
>
> Shortly Elecraft will be offering a 2m module for its popular new SDR
> radio, the KX3.  This will provide 2m multi-mode operation using this nice
> little HF/6m radio.
>
> Some years ago I sold my old satellite radios (FT-847 & FT-817) so am
> looking into a two radio configuration for cross-band duplex satellite
> operation.  I have a K3 with 435-437 transmit capability using a Down East
> Microwave transverter and would be able to receive on 145 using the new
> KX3-2M combo.  (I also still have my s-band downconverter and L-band up
> converter for if/when these bands are activated).
>
> What is unknown is if there is any sw support of the Elecraft radios on
> any satellite tracking sw? I am primarily interested in SSB thru
> transponders so frequency tracking under sw control would be "nice".  I
> have both NOVA and SatPC32.  I have a tracking interface to control antenna
> tracking using a B5400 Yaesu az-el rotator.  Both these radios have
> computer control ports.
>
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
> dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
> "Kits made by KL7UW"
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:29:13 -0600
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Edward R Cole'" <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw
Message-ID: <F74D1089D6AE4631996028E311E246F8@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Ed,

Do Elecraft rigs have their own unique CAT command set, or do them use the
same basic set as Kenwood,
Yaesu, or Icom?  If so, you MAY be able to use them with SatPC32.  For
instance, my Flex VU-5K uses
the Kenwood set, and behaves much like a TS-2000.  SatPC32 supports some
Kenwood rigs "Other" in the
way you are discussing.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Edward R Cole
<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:55 PM
<To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
<Subject: [amsat-bb] Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw
<
<I very rarely post anything to this reflector, but I have a question
<that maybe someone has already has done and has answers.
<
<Shortly Elecraft will be offering a 2m module for its popular new SDR
<radio, the KX3.  This will provide 2m multi-mode operation using this
<nice little HF/6m radio.
<
<Some years ago I sold my old satellite radios (FT-847 & FT-817) so am
<looking into a two radio configuration for cross-band duplex
<satellite operation.  I have a K3 with 435-437 transmit capability
<using a Down East Microwave transverter and would be able to receive
<on 145 using the new KX3-2M combo.  (I also still have my s-band
<downconverter and L-band up converter for if/when these bands
<are activated).
<
<What is unknown is if there is any sw support of the Elecraft radios
<on any satellite tracking sw? I am primarily interested in SSB thru
<transponders so frequency tracking under sw control would be
<"nice".  I have both NOVA and SatPC32.  I have a tracking interface
<to control antenna tracking using a B5400 Yaesu az-el rotator.  Both
<these radios have computer control ports.
<
<
<73, Ed - KL7UW
<http://www.kl7uw.com
<dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
<"Kits made by KL7UW"
<
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of
<the author.
<Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
<satellite program!
<Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:29:13 -0600
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Ted'" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
"'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'CC' <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW:  SATPC32 & AO73 question
Message-ID: <4A7BF8A619FC47D8ACD31DE9D5A53C73@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Ted,

Ah, will need to add the VFO/Mem button to my things to check.  I changed
rigs 2 years ago, and I
forget some of the gotchas.

The Mode setting is correct.  Doppler Shift is fine, and probably more
intuitive for most.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: Ted [mailto:k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxxx
<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:59 PM
<To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx 'AMSAT-BB'
<Cc: 'CC'
<Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question
<
<Thanks Alan,
<
<All of those items are as they should be. I did end up pushing
<the vfo/m
<button and something changed. The freqs are where they should be and
<holding. Radio and program are displaying the same numbers
<
<Question on a setting: under Mode, 'uplink+downlink' checked
<and 'doppler
<shift' checked...is that ok?
<
<Thanks again
<
<73, Ted
<
<-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
<Behalf Of Alan
<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 11:25 AM
<To: 'AMSAT-BB'
<Cc: CC
<Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question
<
<Ted,
<
<Some questions.
<
<Does this problem only happen on AO-73, or all of them?
<In the Radio Setup, do you have Satellite Mode (Satelliten
<Modus) checked?
<Is the SAT mode light on under CAT control?
<Do you have the FT-847 TRACK mode selected?  If so, turn it off as in
<conflicts with the CAT control.
<
<Are you using a USB dongle for a serial port?  What is the CAT
<port delay?
<
<73s,
<
<Alan
<WA4SCA
<
<
<
<<-----Original Message-----
<<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
<<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Ted
<<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:44 PM
<<To: 'AMSAT-BB'
<<Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question < <Any help
<appreciated <
<<73, Ted < <-----Original Message-----
<<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
<<Behalf Of Ted
<<Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 2:23 PM
<<To: 'AMSAT-BB'
<<Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 & AO73 question < <Hi all, < < <
<<In spite of
<my usual ineptness with this program, I have <managed to have
<it <talking to
<my FT-847, downloaded the keps for AO73 and appear <to be
<tracking <it!!
<<
<<
<<
<<However, I can't seem to get the radio to hold the up/dn
<<frequencies in
<the <proper VFO's. I start out with the uplink showing in
<VFOA, but <after a
<min <or so the frequencies swap and I have to use the a><b
<button <to get
<them <back.
<<
<<
<<
<<Am I missing a setting?
<<
<<
<<
<<Any help appreciated
<<
<<
<<
<<And Happy Thanksgiving to all
<<
<<
<<
<<73, Ted
<<
<<K7TRK
<<
<<_______________________________________________
<<Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of
<<the author.
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<<satellite program!
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<<
<<
<<_______________________________________________
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<<the author.
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<<satellite program!
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<
<_______________________________________________
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<the author.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:39:08 -0600
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem
Message-ID: <7C8A5E53D2E34FC7A5F41AF1D8E4DDE7@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Rich,

I was asking about the uplink frequency, since that is the one you reported
incorrect.

<The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is incorrect and
shows FM mode!

However, the downlink you mentioned is approximately the beacon, not the
transponder, so the uplink
frequency would be irrelevant anyway.

If you entered the information which was posted here, have you selected the
transponder pair rather
than the TLM in the CAT window?

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: Rich/wa4bue [mailto:richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxxx
<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:20 PM
<To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
<Cc: Ed Williams; Bill
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem
<
<Downlink freq:  145.93350 and yes it is Doppler controlled.
<
<We are going to check our inputs again tomorrow
<----- Original Message -----
<From: "Alan" <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
<To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
<Cc: "CC" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:10 PM
<Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO 73 Program problem
<
<
<> Rich,
<>
<> Rig?
<>
<> What is the uplink frequency, approximately, and does it
<Doppler tune
<> during a pass?
<>
<> Actual DOPPLER.SQF information?  Cut and paste!
<>
<> Using AMSATNAMES.TXT?  Information.
<>
<> Never hurts for an outsider to look over your work.
<>
<> 73s,
<>
<> Alan
<> WA4SCA
<>
<>
<> <-----Original Message-----
<> <From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
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<> <Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:36 PM
<> <To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
<> <Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 73 Program problem
<> <
<> <We followed the instructions to enter into SATPC.
<> <
<> <We entered evert thing required and in DIVERSE Group we have AO 73.
<> <
<> <The Down Link seems to be okay, but the uplink frequency is
<> <incorrect and
<> <shows FM mode!
<> <
<> <We rechecked our inputs.
<> <
<> <What happened?
<> <
<> <God Bless
<> <
<> <Rich
<> <W4BUE
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:18:11 -0500
From: "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw
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 The K3 command set is very Kenwood like. I'm going to my shore home for the
day tomorrow, if I have some spare time I will try to communicate with my
K3(with internal 2m module) with SatPC32 as a Kenwood, just to see how far
we can get....

73 Jeff kb2m


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From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:29 PM
To: 'Edward R Cole'; AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw

Ed,

Do Elecraft rigs have their own unique CAT command set, or do them use the
same basic set as Kenwood, Yaesu, or Icom?  If so, you MAY be able to use
them with SatPC32.  For instance, my Flex VU-5K uses the Kenwood set, and
behaves much like a TS-2000.  SatPC32 supports some Kenwood rigs "Other" in
the way you are discussing.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Edward R Cole
<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:55 PM
<To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
<Subject: [amsat-bb] Use of Elecraft K3 or KX3 with satellite sw < <I very
rarely post anything to this reflector, but I have a question <that maybe
someone has already has done and has answers.
<
<Shortly Elecraft will be offering a 2m module for its popular new SDR
<radio, the KX3.  This will provide 2m multi-mode operation using this <nice
little HF/6m radio.
<
<Some years ago I sold my old satellite radios (FT-847 & FT-817) so am
<looking into a two radio configuration for cross-band duplex <satellite
operation.  I have a K3 with 435-437 transmit capability <using a Down East
Microwave transverter and would be able to receive <on 145 using the new
KX3-2M combo.  (I also still have my s-band <downconverter and L-band up
converter for if/when these bands <are activated).
<
<What is unknown is if there is any sw support of the Elecraft radios <on
any satellite tracking sw? I am primarily interested in SSB thru
<transponders so frequency tracking under sw control would be <"nice".  I
have both NOVA and SatPC32.  I have a tracking interface <to control antenna
tracking using a B5400 Yaesu az-el rotator.  Both <these radios have
computer control ports.
<
<
<73, Ed - KL7UW
<http://www.kl7uw.com
<dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
<"Kits made by KL7UW"
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 02:32:21 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations
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Hi Mark!

Thanks for your e-mail.  Since I do lots of satellite
demonstrations and get the questions about what it
takes to work satellites like the new AO-73, I figured
I'd put together some information in those videos and
my -BB posts.  I'll use your message as the one I reply
to, but acknowledge the others who replied to my late-
night post on the -BB and in direct e-mails today.  No
radio tonight, since I have to be in the office early
tomorrow, but I will probably be outside tomorrow night
for at least one of the AO-73 passes.

AC0RA mentioned last night on the western AO-73 pass
that he could receive the transponder and use the
dashboard to receive telemetry at the same time.  Wyatt
didn't go into detail on what he had to do on the laptop
on the air, but he mentioned he used HDSDR with the
dashboard software.  I may follow Hector's (CO6CBF)
suggestion of working the transponder and recording
everything during a pass, then run that through the
dashboard using whatever configuration I need so that
the playback can be piped into the dashboard and decoded.
I may be able to work SSB/CW satellites without a computer
from almost anywhere I go, but the SDR stuff is something
I am trying to (quickly) learn.  Especially when the
dongle's namesake is now in orbit and operational.  :-)

Since I will be at a hamfest on Saturday morning, I may
work on just using the dashboard by itself to copy the
telemetry, to have something else to show off at the
hamfest on AO-73's morning passes (if the transponder is
not turned on), then "worry" about trying to hear the
transponder and receive telemetry with the dashboard
later.

You mentioned that I could work the transponder and
receive telemetry at the same time if I transmit at
500mW.  This would be possible on higher passes based
on my tests in the past week, but is there a reason
why 5W would be too much with the Pro+ dongle and its
filtering along with a diplexer between the radios
and the Elk antenna?  I'm not looking to run more power
than 5W, since I'm not planning to add an amplifier or
replace one of my FT-817NDs with something like an
FT-857 at this point.

To those who suggested I modify one of my FT-817NDs to
have a panadapter interface and then use both the 817
and dongle on the downlink, what advantages would I
have in doing that, instead of just using the dongle
as the downlink receiver?  I apologize if this is a
silly question, but I'm wanting to learn more about
what I can do with this dongle, by itself or alongside
my existing gear.  I'm looking forward to seeing N1JEZ's
article in an upcoming AMSAT Journal, and will look at
the link Mike suggested to learn more about this option.

I haven't even started thinking about getting SatPC32
mixed in with all of this SDR stuff, but know that I
could do that.  I still need to get it working my two
FT-817NDs, something that remains on my satellite "to
do" list.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>wrote:

>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> Great sharing of your experiences---thanks!  Nice to have AO-73 operations
> futher characterized.
>
>
> Regarding the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus (FCDP+)---you should enjoy the
> experience of learning how to use it!  It's such a neat receiver.
>
> Some quick thoughts/pointers/questions:
>
> Are you planning to capture telemetry and work the transponder
> simultaneously during evening passes?  It might work, depending on your
> antenna system, especially if you can get buy with only 500mW uplink.  I'll
> be interested in your experiences with this...
>
> There is one thing to remember--you'll need two audio streams decoding at
> the same time.  SDR-Radio V2.1 will do this, with "VFO A" and "VFO B".
> They each have separate audio out selections, so you can pipe the telemetry
> to something like VB Audio Virtual Cable into the Dashboard, and the other
> VFO and audio stream to your laptop speakers or headphone jack.  SDR-Radio
> V2.1 also has built in satellite tracking for doppler correction, and you
> can record the pass at the same time!
>
>
> On the other hand----if you don't want to try to do telemetry and the
> transponder simultaneously, you have some more options...
>
> SatPC32 has great DDE support, and you can use that with either HDSDR or
> SDRSharp to tune your FCDP+ as a separate receiver.  It works great, and
> it's pretty easy to do, if you want your receiver following the
> Doppler/frequency from SatPC32.
>
> Now, if you want to use your FCDP+ as a receiver AND be able to click on a
> frequency and have the transmit match it---that's another trickier setup
> involving HDSDR, SatPC32, and virtual comports.  It works and is slick, but
> it's not for the faint of heart.  You can read about that setup here:
> http://www.tomdoyle.org/FUNcube-SatPC32/FUNcube-SatPC32.html
> I did similar to that writeup by Tom, but found I could do 56k serial port
> speeds just fine.
>
> Have fun!
>
> 73,
>
>
>
>
> So, lots of options..
>
>
>
>


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