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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Object IDs (Nico Janssen)
2. New Award from the Star Comm Group (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
3. Re: Object IDs (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
4. Video: Commanding the WREN SSTV PocketQube (M5AKA)
5. Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations (Hector, CO6CBF)
6. FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question (Ted)
7. Re: FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question (Alan)
8. Little help for Trailblazer and DragonSat (Craig Kief)
9. AMSAT assigned Booth #62 - Atlantic City - August 28-29th
(Thomas Doyle)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 16:25:59 +0100
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat@xxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Object IDs
Message-ID: <529B5507.4050308@xxxxxx.xx>
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All,
An update on the satellite IDs.
Still no IDs are available for the satellites launched from the ISS
(except TechEdSat 3P) and the Minotaur.
Several IDs have been published for the objects from the Dnepr launch
but many need to be confirmed. Still not all TLEs are released.
AMSAT-OSCAR 73, ZACube 1 and HiNCube were launched from the same ISIPOD.
As they initially were close together, the JSpOC decided to release only
one TLE set for this cluster under object number 39417 (2013-066B). Now
the distances between these satellites are slowly increasing. So the
question is which satellite is object 39417.
Detailed doppler measurements show that ZACube 1 is now about 25 s early
compared to the TLE for object 39417, while OSCAR 73 is about 11 s
early. This seems to indicate that object 39417 is actually HiNCube.
Hopefully TLEs for OSCAR 73 and ZACube 1 will be published soon.
73,
Nico PA0DLO
On 2013-11-23 11:32, Nico Janssen wrote:
> All,
>
> An overview of the presently known IDs for the satellites that have
> been launched recently.
>
> ISS JSSOD Cubesat launches
> 2013-11-19 12:18 UTC
> 39412 1998-067DA Pico Dragon ?
> 39413 1998-067DB ArduSat 1 ?
> 39414 1998-067DC ArduSat X ?
> To be confirmed when the objects have more separation.
> 2013-11-20 07:58 UTC
> 39415 1998-067DD TechEdSat 3P
>
> Minotaur 1, Wallops Flight Facility
> 2013-11-20 01:15 UTC
> ORS3 & ELaNa 4: 29 satellites
> So far only 4 TLEs published. No IDs yet but probably:
> 39380 2013-064A STPSat 3
>
> Dnepr, Yasny
> 2013-11-21 07:10:11 UTC
> 32 satellites
> 19 TLEs published
> 39417 2013-066B FUNcube 1
> 39427 2013-066M Triton 1
> 39428 2013-066N Delfi-n3Xt
>
> Note that all designations may change later on.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 15:33:11 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Award from the Star Comm Group
Message-ID:
<913926401.5067209.1385911991537.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxx
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The Star Comm Group has a new satellite award called Got Grids? that will
be effective 1 Jan 2014. The award can be seen along with the rules at
http://www.starcommgroup.org/gotgrids.html
The rules for the 5in EM55 award have been changed to make it a little
easier also.
http://www.starcommgroup.org/5in55.html
This award is open to the world with the new rules. Example you can work 5
stations that have the award anywhere, without working anyone in EM55
or any combination, say 2 stations in em55 and 3 stations that have the
award from any other state or country.
A 3rd award is in the planning stages , GRID MASTERS rules and design to
come soon.
These awards are free. Donations to Amsat are welcomed. Please note on your
check STAR Comm Group Award.
We hope to increase activity on the birds.
Comments or questions contact
wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx Damon
wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx Rick
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 16:48:28 +0100
From: PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Object IDs
Message-ID: <962ddd88bb75fedc9e62d5fa094f64c7@xxxxx.xx>
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Hi Nico,
Thanks for the update, this would explain why the doppler correction
for
AO-73 isn't working with the current object-id.
73 Jan PE0SAT
On 01-12-2013 16:25, Nico Janssen wrote:
> All,
>
> An update on the satellite IDs.
>
> Still no IDs are available for the satellites launched from the ISS
> (except TechEdSat 3P) and the Minotaur.
>
> Several IDs have been published for the objects from the Dnepr launch
> but many need to be confirmed. Still not all TLEs are released.
>
> AMSAT-OSCAR 73, ZACube 1 and HiNCube were launched from the same
> ISIPOD.
> As they initially were close together, the JSpOC decided to release
> only
> one TLE set for this cluster under object number 39417 (2013-066B).
> Now
> the distances between these satellites are slowly increasing. So the
> question is which satellite is object 39417.
> Detailed doppler measurements show that ZACube 1 is now about 25 s
> early
> compared to the TLE for object 39417, while OSCAR 73 is about 11 s
> early. This seems to indicate that object 39417 is actually HiNCube.
> Hopefully TLEs for OSCAR 73 and ZACube 1 will be published soon.
>
> 73,
> Nico PA0DLO
>
>
> On 2013-11-23 11:32, Nico Janssen wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> An overview of the presently known IDs for the satellites that have
>> been launched recently.
>>
>> ISS JSSOD Cubesat launches
>> 2013-11-19 12:18 UTC
>> 39412 1998-067DA Pico Dragon ?
>> 39413 1998-067DB ArduSat 1 ?
>> 39414 1998-067DC ArduSat X ?
>> To be confirmed when the objects have more separation.
>> 2013-11-20 07:58 UTC
>> 39415 1998-067DD TechEdSat 3P
>>
>> Minotaur 1, Wallops Flight Facility
>> 2013-11-20 01:15 UTC
>> ORS3 & ELaNa 4: 29 satellites
>> So far only 4 TLEs published. No IDs yet but probably:
>> 39380 2013-064A STPSat 3
>>
>> Dnepr, Yasny
>> 2013-11-21 07:10:11 UTC
>> 32 satellites
>> 19 TLEs published
>> 39417 2013-066B FUNcube 1
>> 39427 2013-066M Triton 1
>> 39428 2013-066N Delfi-n3Xt
>>
>> Note that all designations may change later on.
>>
>> 73,
>> Nico PA0DLO
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:04:26 +0000 (GMT)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Video: Commanding the WREN SSTV PocketQube
Message-ID:
<1385921066.76148.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Video: Commanding the WREN SSTV PocketQube
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/12/01/video-commanding-the-wren-sstv-pocketqube/
FUNcube-1 Update Nov 30 / Dec 1
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/30/funcube-1-update-november-30/
TshepisoSat ? You can help recording telemetry data
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/30/tshepisosat-you-can-help-recording-telemetry-da
ta/
PicoDragon team ask for reports
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/29/picodragon-team-ask-for-reports/
Firefly CubeSat Mission to Study Lightning
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/29/firefly-cubesat-mission-to-study-lightning/
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73 Trevor
M5AKA
AMSAT-UK website http://amsat-uk.org/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AMSAT-UK/208113275898396
Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 13:20:16 -0500
From: "Hector, CO6CBF" <co6cbf@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "'Mark L. Hammond'" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations
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Hello Patrick and Mark
I already have experimented with SDR - Radio Console V2.1 and the FCD Pro+
to capture telemetry and work the transponder simultaneously. Despite, the
low power of telemetry signal during evening passes, it works wonderful!
My ThinkPad laptop `s CPU is not able to run both VFOs in the SDR - Radio
Console, plus the Dashboard simultaneously. So, I record the raw IQ data
while I am operating on the transponder and after the pass, I playback the
recording and pipe the telemetry audio to Virtual Cable into the Dashboard.
I have made some tests with different operating systems (Linux and Windows),
and it looks like the SDR - Radio Console needs a least a 2.2 GHz Pentium
CPU to run the basic functions with the FUNcube Dongles.
Patrick, as for my experience, telemetry reception is a very interesting
thing for the crowds. During the first AO-73 orbit over my country, I made
an AO-73 demo at my University and everybody was fascinated. It is really
amazing get live measurements from the satellite and notice the variations
depending the live satellite environment.
I am very confident that you will have a great success in your AO-73 demos.
73!
Hector, CO6CBF
-----Mensaje original-----
De: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx En nombre
de Mark L. Hammond
Enviado el: domingo, 01 de diciembre de 2013 9:13
Para: amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Asunto: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-73/FUNcube-1 videos, observations
Hi Patrick,
Great sharing of your experiences---thanks! Nice to have AO-73 operations
futher characterized.
Regarding the Funcube Dongle Pro Plus (FCDP+)---you should enjoy the
experience of learning how to use it! It's such a neat receiver.
Some quick thoughts/pointers/questions:
Are you planning to capture telemetry and work the transponder
simultaneously during evening passes? It might work, depending on your
antenna system, especially if you can get buy with only 500mW uplink. I'll
be interested in your experiences with this...
There is one thing to remember--you'll need two audio streams decoding at
the same time. SDR-Radio V2.1 will do this, with "VFO A" and "VFO B".
They each have separate audio out selections, so you can pipe the telemetry
to something like VB Audio Virtual Cable into the Dashboard, and the other
VFO and audio stream to your laptop speakers or headphone jack. SDR-Radio
V2.1 also has built in satellite tracking for doppler correction, and you
can record the pass at the same time!
On the other hand----if you don't want to try to do telemetry and the
transponder simultaneously, you have some more options...
SatPC32 has great DDE support, and you can use that with either HDSDR or
SDRSharp to tune your FCDP+ as a separate receiver. It works great, and
it's pretty easy to do, if you want your receiver following the
Doppler/frequency from SatPC32.
Now, if you want to use your FCDP+ as a receiver AND be able to click on a
frequency and have the transmit match it---that's another trickier setup
involving HDSDR, SatPC32, and virtual comports. It works and is slick, but
it's not for the faint of heart. You can read about that setup here:
http://www.tomdoyle.org/FUNcube-SatPC32/FUNcube-SatPC32.html
I did similar to that writeup by Tom, but found I could do 56k serial port
speeds just fine.
Have fun!
73,
So, lots of options..
At 12:46 AM 12/1/2013 -0800, Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\) wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Over the past few nights, I've been working the new AO-73
>satellite from my back yard. Most of the time, I have been
>using my normal portable all-mode satellite station - two
>Yaesu FT-817NDs, Elk handheld 2m/70cm log periodic
>antenna. Last night, I replaced one of the FT-817NDs with
>a Kenwood TH-F6A - using its all-mode receiver to copy the
>downlink. Tonight, I used an Icom IC-R20 receiver for the
>downlink. I have used these radios in the past on other
>satellites, and for some hamfest demonstrations on VO-52
>I have used the FT-817ND/TH-F6A combination. I have
>made a series of videos (satellite audio combined with
>slideshows) from several AO-73 passes I've worked this
>week, and those are available at:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/va7ewk
>
>One of the AO-73 videos I recorded contains audio from two
>passes, and is about twice as long as the others which have
>audio from a single pass.
>
>After working these passes, I am convinced that this new
>satellite performs as well as VO-52, for both its uplink and
>downlink. This is a very good thing! AO-73 hears very well,
>as long as I'm careful to match the polarization of the satellite's
>antennas. The downlink is strong enough to allow me to use
>any of these radios as the receiver on higher passes. For
>lower passes, I would probably use my second FT-817ND for
>the downlink receiver. It is good to know that, at least on the
>higher passes, there are lots of options for a downlink receiver.
>On the same higher passes, I know that I can cut my power
>down from 5W to 1W and even 500mW. High power is not
>necessary to be heard through the transponder.
>
>Next project for me with this satellite: using a FUNcube Dongle
>Pro+ that I have had for a few months as the downlink receiver,
>for both the transponder and telemetry, while working the
>transponder with an FT-817ND as my transmit radio. I reinstalled
>HDSDR and its ExtIO DLL for the Pro+ dongle on my 64-bit
>Windows 7 laptop, and it is working well. I have downloaded the
>FUNcube-1 dashboard software, and need to get that installed.
>I also have an old netbook with Linux on it, and am curious to
>see how the dongle works with that operating system. I am
>hoping to be able to use the dongle and a laptop as the downlink
>receiver, without being wiped out by the 5W signals from an
>FT-817ND.
>
>If this is successful, I may have a new combination for my all-
>mode satellite station I can use for upcoming demonstrations.
>Using the dongle and dashboard software during daytime AO-73
>passes at hamfests would be something different, and a great
>thing to show off to the hamfest crowds.
>
>Thanks, again, to all who worked on getting this satellite built
>and launched. Even with the transponder on only for the nighttime
>passes, it has been fun to be on a new satellite so soon after
>its launch. Time for bed... 73!
>
>
>
>
>
>Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
>http://www.wd9ewk.net/
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 10:43:34 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question
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Any help appreciated
73, Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Ted
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 2:23 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 & AO73 question
Hi all,
In spite of my usual ineptness with this program, I have managed to have it
talking to my FT-847, downloaded the keps for AO73 and appear to be tracking
it!!
However, I can't seem to get the radio to hold the up/dn frequencies in the
proper VFO's. I start out with the uplink showing in VFOA, but after a min
or so the frequencies swap and I have to use the a><b button to get them
back.
Am I missing a setting?
Any help appreciated
And Happy Thanksgiving to all
73, Ted
K7TRK
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 13:24:54 -0600
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: CC <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question
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Ted,
Some questions.
Does this problem only happen on AO-73, or all of them?
In the Radio Setup, do you have Satellite Mode (Satelliten Modus) checked?
Is the SAT mode light on under CAT control?
Do you have the FT-847 TRACK mode selected? If so, turn it off as in
conflicts with the CAT control.
Are you using a USB dongle for a serial port? What is the CAT port delay?
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
<-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Ted
<Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:44 PM
<To: 'AMSAT-BB'
<Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: SATPC32 & AO73 question
<
<Any help appreciated
<
<73, Ted
<
<-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
<Behalf Of Ted
<Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 2:23 PM
<To: 'AMSAT-BB'
<Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 & AO73 question
<
<Hi all,
<
<
<
<In spite of my usual ineptness with this program, I have
<managed to have it
<talking to my FT-847, downloaded the keps for AO73 and appear
<to be tracking
<it!!
<
<
<
<However, I can't seem to get the radio to hold the up/dn
<frequencies in the
<proper VFO's. I start out with the uplink showing in VFOA, but
<after a min
<or so the frequencies swap and I have to use the a><b button
<to get them
<back.
<
<
<
<Am I missing a setting?
<
<
<
<Any help appreciated
<
<
<
<And Happy Thanksgiving to all
<
<
<
<73, Ted
<
<K7TRK
<
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<the author.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 12:29:31 -0700
From: "Craig Kief" <craig.kief@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Little help for Trailblazer and DragonSat
Message-ID: <015601ceeecb$aeb43320$0c1c9960$@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello folks,
I am a little new at this so please have patience with ignorance.? Jin and I
launched two CubeSats a week or so ago.? The first is Trailblazer (mine) and
the second is DragonSat (Jins).? Trailblazer is from the Configurable Space
Research at the University of New Mexico (KE5VSH) and DragonSat is Drexel
University.?? Our problem is that we haven?t heard from our satellites yet.?
There could be a variety of different reasons.? First, the satellite didn?t
survive delivery.? Second, our antennas didn?t deploy or third, we have poor
ground stations.? As you can imagine, I am hoping for the third.? I can
pasting the TLE which is openly available on space-track and celestetrack in
this email.?? It is very close (I believe) to our birds.?? If you have a
chance, could you please keep your ears open in case you might hear us.?
Please email any packets for Trailblazer to myself here
at?craig.kief@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxx for DragonSat to Jin Kang at?kang@xxxx.xxx.
?
Thanks again most sincerely,
Craig
?
?
Trailblazer 437.425MHz, AX.25, 9,600? (there is another satellite with the
same tx freq as mine there as well).
On my packets, if you see C0 00 A8 84?. You will provide me with a wonderful
gift.? I beacon every 50 seconds
?
DragonSat 145.870MHz, AX.25, 9,600. Beacons every 30 seconds.
?
Trailblazer Maybe
1 39382U 13064C?? 13325.87382098? .00041511? 00000-0? 18318-2 0??? 39
2 39382? 40.5103 239.5017 0004316 318.4599? 41.5592 15.20995117?? 275
?
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 13:47:52 -0600
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT assigned Booth #62 - Atlantic City - August
28-29th
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A well deserved thanks to John, David and James.
http://www.tomdoyle.org/AtlanticCity-2.jpg
http://www.tomdoyle.org/AtlanticCity-1.jpg
W9KE Tom Doyle
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