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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Dnepr launch - online streaming? (Jeff Yanko)
2. Re: Fwd: linear sats (Paul Stoetzer)
3. Launch (DJ Nise)
4. Experimental License for Cubesats (Bill Ress)
5. Re: Fwd: linear sats (i8cvs)
6. Tonight's Dnepr Launch (Clint Bradford)
7. Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM (Arthur Feller)
8. Re: Experimental License for Cubesats (Bill Ress)
9. Dnepr - ADD (Clint Bradford)
10. Dnepr - Celestrak (Clint Bradford)
11. Re: Experimental License for Cubesats (Arthur Feller)
12. Re: Dnepr - ADD (Clint Bradford)
13. FUNcube-1 Launch - Video Feeds + Keps (M5AKA)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:40:48 -0800
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
To: "Ciaran Morgan" <Ciaran@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Dnepr launch - online streaming?
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Thanks for the info Ciaran!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ciaran Morgan" <Ciaran@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "'Jeff Yanko'" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Dnepr launch - online streaming?
> AMSAT-UK will be running a live web stream of the FUNcube-1 launch event,
> which is one of the satellites on the dnepr, from 0700UTC November 21
> 2013.
>
> Unfortunately we don't have a live feed from the launch site but we will
> be
> streaming the events from the National Radio Centre based at Bletchley
> Park,
> where the team that designed and built the satellite, the FUNcube Dongle
> and
> the software developers responsible for the Dashboard software and the
> Data
> Warehouse, will be present .
>
> We will continue to stream live video from the National Radio Centre for
> the
> first passes of FUNcube-1 over the UK, which we expect to be approximately
> 1
> hour and 40 minutes after launch, and will continue with the passes that
> will take place during the remaining of the morning.
>
> The web stream can be accessed at www.batc.tv/streams/funcube1
>
> The Dashboard software can be downloaded from
> http://funcube.org.uk/working-documents/funcube-telemetry-dashboard/
> You can also download some guidance notes that will help in the setting up
> of the Dashboard software and there are instructions in the notes on
> registering with the Data Warehouse so that any data you may capture can
> be
> uploaded into the Data Warehouse.
>
>
> 7 and a half hours to go....
>
> On behalf of the FUNcube-1 project team.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Jeff Yanko
> Sent: 20 November 2013 21:41
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Dnepr launch - online streaming?
>
> Will the upcoming launch be streamed on-line?
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jeff WB3JFS
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:47:38 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Jerry Ehlers <w0sat2@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: linear sats
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Jerry,
Well, they are all CubeSats!
However, three on tomorrow's launch will have voice access and one
packet access.
FUNCube-1 will have a U/V linear transponder. It will be active in 1-2
weeks if everything checks out. The linear transponder will only
normally be available when the satellite is in eclipse.
Delfi-n3xt will have a U/V linear transponder. It will be active
following the completion of it's primary mission.
Triton-1 will have a U/V FM-to-DSB transponder. It will be active
following the completion of it's primary mission in about 3 months.
CubeBug will have a packet digipeater. I think it's capable of either
1200 baud or 9600 baud use.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Jerry Ehlers <w0sat2@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jerry Ehlers <w0sat2@xxxxx.xxx>
> Date: Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:40 AM
> Subject: linear sats
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xx
>
>
> Hi: How many of these new birds that were launched or going to
> be are
> linear birds ?
> What are the modes and when will they be in service. ???
> I,m not interested in Cubesats .
> Thanks
> Jerry w0sat
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:56:13 -0500
From: DJ Nise <kb1qys@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Launch
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I wish I had a camera.
I parked alongside one of the runways at Logan Airport last night, and
watched it with a coworker.
It was crystal clear, and easily spotted to the left of the city of Boston,
less than 1 minute after lauch.
This isn't going to get old!
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:34:47 -0800
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Experimental License for Cubesats
Message-ID: <528D7F57.9090105@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Art,
Aaah! I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for clearing it for me anyway. Can
you point me to the FCC web link where I can understand (apply) for an
experimental license for a Cubesat in the Amateur bands.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
On 11/20/2013 4:29 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
> Hi, Bill,
>
> By special arrangement earlier this year, IARU agreed to provide
> coordination service for experimental stations on an temporary basis.
> Many of the experimental station operators are also licensed
> amateurs, however that has no bearing on experimental station operation.
>
> More on this in the 2013 AMSAT Technical Symposium Proceedings. See
> the article by Hans, ZS6AKV.
>
> 73, art?..
> W4ART Arlington VA
>
>
> On 20-Nov-2013, at 06:11 PM, Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> <mailto:bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Art,
>>
>> Now I'm a little confused by your comment that most Cubesats are
>> licensed as experimental. On yesterdays Minotaur launch, 17 Cubesats
>> are operated by Amateurs and were coordinated through the IARU.
>>
>> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>>
>> On 11/20/2013 2:50 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
>>> One thing we learned in bureaucrat school is that jumping to
>>> conclusions is not a healthy exercise. :-)
>>>
>>> FCC licensed most of the new cubes as experimental stations and not
>>> as amateur stations. Experimental stations may be assigned to any
>>> frequency, provided they do not cause harmful interference to
>>> stations operating in accordance with the ITU radio regulations.
>>> See RR Article 27 and 47 CFR Part 5.
>>>
>>> These experimental stations are not operating in the
>>> amateur-satellite service, only sharing the bands on a secondary
>>> basis. They are permitted to communicate only with stations listed
>>> on their license, so it would be inappropriate for them to seek help
>>> from amateurs, though amateurs may certainly listen. Note that
>>> experimental stations may encrypt their transmissions.
>>>
>>> Some of the satellites, such as TJ3SAT, and some others, are amateur
>>> stations! Sure would be good for them to make a noise here on BB!!
>>> (HINT!)
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> 73, art?..
>>> W4ART Arlington VA
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20-Nov-2013, at 07:56 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx
>>> <mailto:wageners@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well,
>>>>
>>>> because their are designed and operated by students and teachers with a
>>>> valid ham radio licence!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Richard Ferryman
>>>> <g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then why are those cubesats using amateur frequencies?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dick G4BBH
>>>
>>> http://afeller.us
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. Opinions
>>> expressed are those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. Opinions
>> expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of
> a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.
> -Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd US President (1882-1945)
>
>
>
> http://afeller.us
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 04:35:26 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Jerry Ehlers" <w0sat2@xxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: linear sats
Message-ID: <004501cee66a$b871a320$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Ehlers" <w0sat2@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:06 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: linear sats
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jerry Ehlers <w0sat2@xxxxx.xxx>
> Date: Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:40 AM
> Subject: linear sats
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xx
>
>Hi:
>How many of these new birds that were launched or going to
>be are linear birds ?
>What are the modes and when will they be in service. ??
>I,m not interested in Cubesats .
>Thanks
>Jerry w0sat
Hi Jerry, W0SAT
I agree completely with you. For a lot or reason I am interested
only in HEO or LEO satellites to be used for communications on
CW,SSB as AMSAT promised to all of us many years ago !
AMSAT says and writes: PHASE-3 the satellite for all ! You will
communicate better than using HF worldwide.......remember ?
73" de i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:40:37 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tonight's Dnepr Launch
Message-ID: <D52D4DE4-1FC1-48E7-8AF0-5913F646E879@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Watch the ZACUBE-1 launch live -
The launch of ZACUBE-1 from Yasny Launch Base in Russia will be
streamed live on the CPUT website on Thursday 21 November.
http://live.cput.ac.za/
ALSO - the #cubesat IRC channel at ...
http://webchat.freenode.net/
... will be alive! And I hope the AMSAT-BB list, too!
Clint K6LCS
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:29:27 -0500
From: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
To: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM
Message-ID: <C142FE47-86AE-4F61-A7CC-0863EBA6A65E@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi, Bill,
By special arrangement earlier this year, IARU agreed to provide
coordination service for experimental stations on an temporary basis. Many
of the experimental station operators are also licensed amateurs, however
that has no bearing on experimental station operation.
More on this in the 2013 AMSAT Technical Symposium Proceedings. See the
article by Hans, ZS6AKV.
73, art?..
W4ART Arlington VA
On 20-Nov-2013, at 06:11 PM, Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Art,
>
> Now I'm a little confused by your comment that most Cubesats are licensed
as experimental. On yesterdays Minotaur launch, 17 Cubesats are operated by
Amateurs and were coordinated through the IARU.
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
> On 11/20/2013 2:50 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
>> One thing we learned in bureaucrat school is that jumping to conclusions
is not a healthy exercise. :-)
>>
>> FCC licensed most of the new cubes as experimental stations and not as
amateur stations. Experimental stations may be assigned to any frequency,
provided they do not cause harmful interference to stations operating in
accordance with the ITU radio regulations. See RR Article 27 and 47 CFR
Part 5.
>>
>> These experimental stations are not operating in the amateur-satellite
service, only sharing the bands on a secondary basis. They are permitted to
communicate only with stations listed on their license, so it would be
inappropriate for them to seek help from amateurs, though amateurs may
certainly listen. Note that experimental stations may encrypt their
transmissions.
>>
>> Some of the satellites, such as TJ3SAT, and some others, are amateur
stations! Sure would be good for them to make a noise here on BB!! (HINT!)
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> 73, art?..
>> W4ART Arlington VA
>>
>>
>> On 20-Nov-2013, at 07:56 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Well,
>>>
>>> because their are designed and operated by students and teachers with a
>>> valid ham radio licence!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Richard Ferryman
<g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then why are those cubesats using amateur frequencies?
>>>>
>>>> Dick G4BBH
>>
>> http://afeller.us
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a
free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.
-Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd US President (1882-1945)
http://afeller.us
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:41:36 -0800
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Experimental License for Cubesats
Message-ID: <528D9D10.8020409@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Art,
Very helpful indeed. Thanks for taking the time to clarify for me at
least - a subject that has at times been both confusing and contentious.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
On 11/20/2013 8:19 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
> Hi, Bill,
>
> Go to http://www.fcc.gov and search for ?experimental.? Strongly
> suggest reading Part 5 of the FCC rules first. (See:
>
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collectionCfr.action?collectionCode=CFR&search
Path=Title+5&oldPath=Title+5&isCollapsed=false&selectedYearFrom=2013&ycord=161
.
> You may have to wait for Title 47 (Telecommunications) to be added to
> the 2013 edition, then go to Part 5.) Make sure you have the version
> revised this year.
>
> Some thoughts for you.
>
> To the good: Experimental stations can be assigned to any frequency.
> Experimental stations may be licensed for all the purposes listed in
> Part 5 of the FCC Rules and Regulations. Commercial ideas can be
> tried out. Operators may be paid. Encryption may be used.
> Applications can be made online. The cost is somewhere around $100.
>
> To the bad: Operation is secondary to EVERYTHING. In case of causing
> harmful interference, the experimental station is required to cure the
> problem, which usually means being ordered to shut down immediately
> with no recourse. In case of suffering harmful interference, it must
> be tolerated. (Not a good options for significant investments in time
> and money.) Communication is normally permitted only with stations
> listed on the license. Communication with regularly licensed stations
> (including amateur) is forbidden. International communication is
> normally forbidden, unless administrations made arrangements in
> advance. International coordination is usually required.
>
> One more thing on sharing bands allocated to the amateur-satellite
> service. FCC now requires IARU coordination, though they didn?t give
> IARU notice. (This story requires several 807?s.) To help out folks
> who had already built projects thinking (erroneously) that they could
> fly as amateur, IARU worked out an arrangement to provide coordination
> service on a TEMPORARY basis. Coordination requested in the 144-146
> MHz will no longer be provided for experimental stations after mid
> 2014. See 2013 AMSAT Technical Symposium Proceedings.
>
> IMHO, appropriate radiocommunication services and frequency
> allocations are already available, can provide international status,
> and should be applied for, rather than amateur-satellite service
> frequencies. Fees will be required, but FCC might waive their fees
> with a justified request. ITU fees are normally required, except for
> amateur stations.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> 73, art?..
> W4ART Arlington VA
>
> On 20-Nov-2013, at 10:34 PM, Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> <mailto:bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
>
>> Art,
>>
>> Aaah! I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for clearing it for me anyway.
>> Can you point me to the FCC web link where I can understand (apply)
>> for an experimental license for a Cubesat in the Amateur bands.
>>
>> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>>
>> On 11/20/2013 4:29 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
>>> Hi, Bill,
>>>
>>> By special arrangement earlier this year, IARU agreed to provide
>>> coordination service for experimental stations on an temporary
>>> basis. Many of the experimental station operators are also licensed
>>> amateurs, however that has no bearing on experimental station operation.
>>>
>>> More on this in the 2013 AMSAT Technical Symposium Proceedings. See
>>> the article by Hans, ZS6AKV.
>>>
>>> 73, art?..
>>> W4ART Arlington VA
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20-Nov-2013, at 06:11 PM, Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>>> <mailto:bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Art,
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm a little confused by your comment that most Cubesats are
>>>> licensed as experimental. On yesterdays Minotaur launch, 17
>>>> Cubesats are operated by Amateurs and were coordinated through the
>>>> IARU.
>>>>
>>>> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2013 2:50 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
>>>>> One thing we learned in bureaucrat school is that jumping to
>>>>> conclusions is not a healthy exercise. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> FCC licensed most of the new cubes as experimental stations and
>>>>> not as amateur stations. Experimental stations may be assigned to
>>>>> any frequency, provided they do not cause harmful interference to
>>>>> stations operating in accordance with the ITU radio regulations.
>>>>> See RR Article 27 and 47 CFR Part 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> These experimental stations are not operating in the
>>>>> amateur-satellite service, only sharing the bands on a secondary
>>>>> basis. They are permitted to communicate only with stations
>>>>> listed on their license, so it would be inappropriate for them to
>>>>> seek help from amateurs, though amateurs may certainly listen.
>>>>> Note that experimental stations may encrypt their transmissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of the satellites, such as TJ3SAT, and some others, are
>>>>> amateur stations! Sure would be good for them to make a noise
>>>>> here on BB!! (HINT!)
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, art?..
>>>>> W4ART Arlington VA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20-Nov-2013, at 07:56 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>> <mailto:wageners@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> because their are designed and operated by students and teachers
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> valid ham radio licence!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Richard Ferryman
>>>>>> <g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then why are those cubesats using amateur frequencies?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dick G4BBH
>>>>>
>>>>> http://afeller.us <http://afeller.us/>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. Opinions
>>>>> expressed are those of the author.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. Opinions
>>>> expressed are those of the author.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>> Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber
>>> of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.
>>> -Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd US President (1882-1945)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://afeller.us <http://afeller.us/>
>>>
>>
>
> *Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber
> of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough. *
> *-Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd US President (1882-1945) *
> *
> *
>
>
> /http://afeller.us <http://afeller.us/>/
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:45:31 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dnepr - ADD
Message-ID: <DDDB80FE-AF3C-4FC6-8DC8-A6BC5D7BF632@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Russian Ministry of Defense says no live launch video. Wonder what this
University
will be showing???
http://live.cput.ac.za/
Clint
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:54:33 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dnepr - Celestrak
Message-ID: <1B467097-3CCF-41CB-B6BC-2A5F857C1952@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
http://celestrak.com/events/dnepr.asp
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:19:51 -0500
From: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
To: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Experimental License for Cubesats
Message-ID: <F7E18658-FBFB-4DB2-B4A9-3E02970EE15F@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi, Bill,
Go to http://www.fcc.gov and search for ?experimental.? Strongly suggest
reading Part 5 of the FCC rules first. (See:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collectionCfr.action?collectionCode=CFR&search
Path=Title+5&oldPath=Title+5&isCollapsed=false&selectedYearFrom=2013&ycord=161
. You may have to wait for Title 47 (Telecommunications) to be added to the
2013 edition, then go to Part 5.) Make sure you have the version revised
this year.
Some thoughts for you.
To the good: Experimental stations can be assigned to any frequency.
Experimental stations may be licensed for all the purposes listed in Part 5
of the FCC Rules and Regulations. Commercial ideas can be tried out.
Operators may be paid. Encryption may be used. Applications can be made
online. The cost is somewhere around $100.
To the bad: Operation is secondary to EVERYTHING. In case of causing
harmful interference, the experimental station is required to cure the
problem, which usually means being ordered to shut down immediately with no
recourse. In case of suffering harmful interference, it must be tolerated.
(Not a good options for significant investments in time and money.)
Communication is normally permitted only with stations listed on the
license. Communication with regularly licensed stations (including amateur)
is forbidden. International communication is normally forbidden, unless
administrations made arrangements in advance. International coordination is
usually required.
One more thing on sharing bands allocated to the amateur-satellite service.
FCC now requires IARU coordination, though they didn?t give IARU notice.
(This story requires several 807?s.) To help out folks who had already
built projects thinking (erroneously) that they could fly as amateur, IARU
worked out an arrangement to provide coordination service on a TEMPORARY
basis. Coordination requested in the 144-146 MHz will no longer be provided
for experimental stations after mid 2014. See 2013 AMSAT Technical
Symposium Proceedings.
IMHO, appropriate radiocommunication services and frequency allocations are
already available, can provide international status, and should be applied
for, rather than amateur-satellite service frequencies. Fees will be
required, but FCC might waive their fees with a justified request. ITU fees
are normally required, except for amateur stations.
I hope this helps.
73, art?..
W4ART Arlington VA
On 20-Nov-2013, at 10:34 PM, Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Art,
>
> Aaah! I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for clearing it for me anyway. Can
you point me to the FCC web link where I can understand (apply) for an
experimental license for a Cubesat in the Amateur bands.
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
> On 11/20/2013 4:29 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
>> Hi, Bill,
>>
>> By special arrangement earlier this year, IARU agreed to provide
coordination service for experimental stations on an temporary basis. Many
of the experimental station operators are also licensed amateurs, however
that has no bearing on experimental station operation.
>>
>> More on this in the 2013 AMSAT Technical Symposium Proceedings. See the
article by Hans, ZS6AKV.
>>
>> 73, art?..
>> W4ART Arlington VA
>>
>>
>> On 20-Nov-2013, at 06:11 PM, Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Art,
>>>
>>> Now I'm a little confused by your comment that most Cubesats are
licensed as experimental. On yesterdays Minotaur launch, 17 Cubesats are
operated by Amateurs and were coordinated through the IARU.
>>>
>>> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2013 2:50 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
>>>> One thing we learned in bureaucrat school is that jumping to
conclusions is not a healthy exercise. :-)
>>>>
>>>> FCC licensed most of the new cubes as experimental stations and not as
amateur stations. Experimental stations may be assigned to any frequency,
provided they do not cause harmful interference to stations operating in
accordance with the ITU radio regulations. See RR Article 27 and 47 CFR
Part 5.
>>>>
>>>> These experimental stations are not operating in the amateur-satellite
service, only sharing the bands on a secondary basis. They are permitted to
communicate only with stations listed on their license, so it would be
inappropriate for them to seek help from amateurs, though amateurs may
certainly listen. Note that experimental stations may encrypt their
transmissions.
>>>>
>>>> Some of the satellites, such as TJ3SAT, and some others, are amateur
stations! Sure would be good for them to make a noise here on BB!! (HINT!)
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> 73, art?..
>>>> W4ART Arlington VA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20-Nov-2013, at 07:56 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well,
>>>>>
>>>>> because their are designed and operated by students and teachers with a
>>>>> valid ham radio licence!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Richard Ferryman
<g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why are those cubesats using amateur frequencies?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick G4BBH
>>>>
>>>> http://afeller.us
>>>>
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>> Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a
free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.
>> -Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd US President (1882-1945)
>>
>>
>>
>> http://afeller.us
>>
>
Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a
free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:50:28 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Dnepr - ADD
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Thank you!
Clint
On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:45 PM, Mike Rupprecht wrote:
See here:
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 06:51:45 +0000 (GMT)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Launch - Video Feeds + Keps
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Live video from Bletchley Park FUNcube-1 Monitoring Station
http://batc.tv/streams/funcube1
CPUT South Africa Launch Video Streaming
http://live.cput.ac.za/live.html
Keps
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/20/funcube-1-ground-station-is-ready-for-launch/
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