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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Public Relations Lacking (Rich/wa4bue)
2. Re: Public Relations Lacking (Stefan Wagener)
3. Dnepr launch - online streaming? (Jeff Yanko)
4. Re: Public Relations Lacking (Bryce Salmi)
5. Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM
(Robert Bruninga)
6. Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM (Arthur Feller)
7. Re: Minotaur Launch seen in FN42fs. (John Magliacane)
8. Re: Minotaur Launch seen in FN42fs. (Stefan Wagener)
9. Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM (Bill Ress)
10. Fwd: linear sats (Jerry Ehlers)
11. Re: Dnepr launch - online streaming? (Ciaran Morgan)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:00:45 -0500
From: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>, "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
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Hi all,
I don't think that the school systems across the country have a clue of the
great resources in ARRL, AMSAT, local clubs, and citizens offer including
the local system where K4AMG mentors. They just don't get!
That is why we are now assembly a presentation for our school board.
* Send to each board member resource info
* Hopefully speak with them 1 - 1
* Make presentation to the entire board
* Make some suggestions
* K4AMG will help fund the extra things that might be needed, no extra
expense to the city.
So PR info is critical to all of us!
Earlier this year, when we borrowed the CUBESAT simulator, we did discuss
trying to build a CUBESAT. I think that if there was a parts list or a kit
we could do that a lot easier. We could use our coordinated repeater
frequencies all ready assigned (1/2 duplex). It may never be launched but
we could arrange to have it flown every now and then.
I hope that this will development more discussion leading to a plan, action,
and desired results
God Bless
Rich
W4BUE
***********************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryce Salmi" <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:49 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
Just a few comments:
- I'd be up for any document like this being publicly available
- AMSAT Engineering is using it's expertise in radio comms as leverage
for supplying a comms board to other cubesat payloads that can be turn
into
a full fledged bent pipe transmitter at end of mission. Not sure if this
is
actively being promoted yet, probably more leverage once Fox-1 flies
- I have no idea if AMSAT has a presence (official) at the cubesat
symposiums and conferences (I think there's a big one in Utah or at least
was). That would be a good idea for this.
- A great start would be to build up excitement within amateur radio and
use that momentum to extend it. Again at least on AMSAT-NA side of thing
Fox-1 is a big step towards that.
Nice discussion!
Bryce
KB1LQC
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> This ARISS guide is very useful for schools and communities seeking a
> voice
> contact with the ISS. It is a procedure "manual" for a very specific
> purpose to guide applicants in the process for one specific goal, the
> contact. While the guide clearly fulfills its purpose and is used widely
> in
> preparation, it does not even mention AMSAT (however refers to the ARRL).
> However, the format and purpose is NOT useful for engaging individuals
> and/or groups involved in cubesats and amateur radio.
>
>
>
> What is needed is a ?101 on CubeSats and Amateur Radio? document/guide
> that
> at certain levels of detail clearly outlines the benefits, pitfalls and
> processes involved in using amateur radio within a planned cubesat
> project.
> It should preferably be written by AMSAT (available in the store?) however
> the amateur radio satellite community at large is a great resource. In
> essence, we need to tell folks not how (necessarily) but why they should
> include us and clearly outline the benefits (assuming we have a few).
>
>
>
> All universities and even schools have in general a very effective
> communication group/department and their ability to promote their projects
> for fundraising purposes speaks volume. The lack of engagement by these
> groups with our community is based on previous experience and/or
> ignorance.
> Both of these are something we as a community have to take responsibility
> for. Negative experience based on cubesat bashing has done a lot of damage
> (based on very personal experience) and the lack of clearly outlining the
> benefits, our expertise, specific services and other tangible factors is
> also a factor.
>
>
>
> If, and I say if, engaging the cubesat community is a priority of AMSAT
> (NA), it will require time, resources and a full commitment by the board
> and yes, most of all volunteers. What could help is for example having a
> working group chaired by a VP for cubesats (small satellites) and having
> the annual meeting in partnership with one of the annual cubesat
> symposiums
> for a joint conference. However, the board will have to decide how
> important that is in comparison to other priorities. In the meantime, it
> is
> up to the individuals making an effort on the local level.
>
>
> My 2 cents, and I am going back working on our local ARISS project.
>
>
> Stefan
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Clint Bradford
> <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>
> > >Is the guide available ...
> >
> > This is not the exact one I used for our ARISS contact ... but it is
> close
> > ...
> >
> > https://files.secureserver.net/0fgxMFjvG2DaFC
> >
> > I will upload the other one tonight - to the same folder.
> >
> > Clint
> > 909-241-7666 - cell
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> > Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> > http://www.clintbradford.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:21:56 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
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Thanks Rich,
*"I don't think that the school systems across the country have a clue of
the great resources in ARRL, AMSAT, local clubs, and citizens offer
including the local system where K4AMG mentors. They just don't get!"*
Actually some do. Just look and talk to the schools that had direct
contacts with the ISS (ARISS). The local hams have worked wonders and some
of the teachers are now engaging much more in amateur radio related STEM
activities. It takes local folks to make a difference in local schools like
you are proposing. It takes AMSAT, ARRL and others to make key support
materials available for the local folks.
Be prepared for the obvious and not so obvious questions:
How does that fit within the approved curriculum and planned activities?
What are the resources you will provide to the local school and especially
the teachers?
Who will be doing it? What will it cost?
...and so on.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Stefan
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I don't think that the school systems across the country have a clue of
> the great resources in ARRL, AMSAT, local clubs, and citizens offer
> including the local system where K4AMG mentors. They just don't get!
> That is why we are now assembly a presentation for our school board.
> * Send to each board member resource info
> * Hopefully speak with them 1 - 1
> * Make presentation to the entire board
> * Make some suggestions
> * K4AMG will help fund the extra things that might be needed, no extra
> expense to the city.
>
> So PR info is critical to all of us!
>
> Earlier this year, when we borrowed the CUBESAT simulator, we did discuss
> trying to build a CUBESAT. I think that if there was a parts list or a kit
> we could do that a lot easier. We could use our coordinated repeater
> frequencies all ready assigned (1/2 duplex). It may never be launched but
> we could arrange to have it flown every now and then.
>
> I hope that this will development more discussion leading to a plan,
> action, and desired results
>
> God Bless
>
> Rich
> W4BUE
>
> ***********************
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryce Salmi" <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT BB" <
> amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:49 PM
>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
>
>
> Just a few comments:
>
>
> - I'd be up for any document like this being publicly available
> - AMSAT Engineering is using it's expertise in radio comms as leverage
>
> for supplying a comms board to other cubesat payloads that can be turn
> into
> a full fledged bent pipe transmitter at end of mission. Not sure if this
> is
> actively being promoted yet, probably more leverage once Fox-1 flies
> - I have no idea if AMSAT has a presence (official) at the cubesat
>
> symposiums and conferences (I think there's a big one in Utah or at least
> was). That would be a good idea for this.
> - A great start would be to build up excitement within amateur radio and
> use that momentum to extend it. Again at least on AMSAT-NA side of thing
> Fox-1 is a big step towards that.
>
> Nice discussion!
>
> Bryce
>
> KB1LQC
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> This ARISS guide is very useful for schools and communities seeking a
>> voice
>> contact with the ISS. It is a procedure "manual" for a very specific
>> purpose to guide applicants in the process for one specific goal, the
>> contact. While the guide clearly fulfills its purpose and is used widely
>> in
>> preparation, it does not even mention AMSAT (however refers to the ARRL).
>> However, the format and purpose is NOT useful for engaging individuals
>> and/or groups involved in cubesats and amateur radio.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is needed is a ?101 on CubeSats and Amateur Radio? document/guide
>> that
>> at certain levels of detail clearly outlines the benefits, pitfalls and
>> processes involved in using amateur radio within a planned cubesat
>> project.
>> It should preferably be written by AMSAT (available in the store?) however
>> the amateur radio satellite community at large is a great resource. In
>> essence, we need to tell folks not how (necessarily) but why they should
>> include us and clearly outline the benefits (assuming we have a few).
>>
>>
>>
>> All universities and even schools have in general a very effective
>> communication group/department and their ability to promote their projects
>> for fundraising purposes speaks volume. The lack of engagement by these
>> groups with our community is based on previous experience and/or
>> ignorance.
>> Both of these are something we as a community have to take responsibility
>> for. Negative experience based on cubesat bashing has done a lot of damage
>> (based on very personal experience) and the lack of clearly outlining the
>> benefits, our expertise, specific services and other tangible factors is
>> also a factor.
>>
>>
>>
>> If, and I say if, engaging the cubesat community is a priority of AMSAT
>> (NA), it will require time, resources and a full commitment by the board
>> and yes, most of all volunteers. What could help is for example having a
>> working group chaired by a VP for cubesats (small satellites) and having
>> the annual meeting in partnership with one of the annual cubesat
>> symposiums
>> for a joint conference. However, the board will have to decide how
>> important that is in comparison to other priorities. In the meantime, it
>> is
>> up to the individuals making an effort on the local level.
>>
>>
>> My 2 cents, and I am going back working on our local ARISS project.
>>
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Clint Bradford
>> <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>>
>> > >Is the guide available ...
>> >
>> > This is not the exact one I used for our ARISS contact ... but it is
>> close
>> > ...
>> >
>> > https://files.secureserver.net/0fgxMFjvG2DaFC
>> >
>> > I will upload the other one tonight - to the same folder.
>> >
>> > Clint
>> > 909-241-7666 - cell
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------
>> > Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>> > http://www.clintbradford.com
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:40:46 -0800
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dnepr launch - online streaming?
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Will the upcoming launch be streamed on-line?
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:43:15 -0800
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
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I have a friend who is also a ham who teaches physics in high school. There
is such pressure on teachers to teach students for standardized tests like
MCAS, Regents, SAT's, etc. that they have little time to do much else. It's
quite sad as that certainly hurts the ability to inspire. Extracurriculars
are a good start. High school and college club relations could be
extremely beneficial.
Bryce
KB1LQC
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Thanks Rich,
>
> *"I don't think that the school systems across the country have a clue of
> the great resources in ARRL, AMSAT, local clubs, and citizens offer
> including the local system where K4AMG mentors. They just don't get!"*
>
> Actually some do. Just look and talk to the schools that had direct
> contacts with the ISS (ARISS). The local hams have worked wonders and some
> of the teachers are now engaging much more in amateur radio related STEM
> activities. It takes local folks to make a difference in local schools like
> you are proposing. It takes AMSAT, ARRL and others to make key support
> materials available for the local folks.
>
> Be prepared for the obvious and not so obvious questions:
> How does that fit within the approved curriculum and planned activities?
> What are the resources you will provide to the local school and especially
> the teachers?
> Who will be doing it? What will it cost?
> ...and so on.
>
> Good luck and keep us posted.
> Stefan
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Rich/wa4bue
<richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I don't think that the school systems across the country have a clue of
>> the great resources in ARRL, AMSAT, local clubs, and citizens offer
>> including the local system where K4AMG mentors. They just don't get!
>> That is why we are now assembly a presentation for our school board.
>> * Send to each board member resource info
>> * Hopefully speak with them 1 - 1
>> * Make presentation to the entire board
>> * Make some suggestions
>> * K4AMG will help fund the extra things that might be needed, no extra
>> expense to the city.
>>
>> So PR info is critical to all of us!
>>
>> Earlier this year, when we borrowed the CUBESAT simulator, we did discuss
>> trying to build a CUBESAT. I think that if there was a parts list or a kit
>> we could do that a lot easier. We could use our coordinated repeater
>> frequencies all ready assigned (1/2 duplex). It may never be launched but
>> we could arrange to have it flown every now and then.
>>
>> I hope that this will development more discussion leading to a plan,
>> action, and desired results
>>
>> God Bless
>>
>> Rich
>> W4BUE
>>
>> ***********************
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryce Salmi" <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
>> To: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Cc: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT BB" <
>> amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:49 PM
>>
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
>>
>>
>> Just a few comments:
>>
>>
>> - I'd be up for any document like this being publicly available
>> - AMSAT Engineering is using it's expertise in radio comms as leverage
>>
>> for supplying a comms board to other cubesat payloads that can be turn
>> into
>> a full fledged bent pipe transmitter at end of mission. Not sure if
>> this is
>> actively being promoted yet, probably more leverage once Fox-1 flies
>> - I have no idea if AMSAT has a presence (official) at the cubesat
>>
>> symposiums and conferences (I think there's a big one in Utah or at
>> least
>> was). That would be a good idea for this.
>> - A great start would be to build up excitement within amateur radio and
>> use that momentum to extend it. Again at least on AMSAT-NA side of thing
>> Fox-1 is a big step towards that.
>>
>> Nice discussion!
>>
>> Bryce
>>
>> KB1LQC
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> This ARISS guide is very useful for schools and communities seeking a
>>> voice
>>> contact with the ISS. It is a procedure "manual" for a very specific
>>> purpose to guide applicants in the process for one specific goal, the
>>> contact. While the guide clearly fulfills its purpose and is used widely
>>> in
>>> preparation, it does not even mention AMSAT (however refers to the ARRL).
>>> However, the format and purpose is NOT useful for engaging individuals
>>> and/or groups involved in cubesats and amateur radio.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is needed is a ?101 on CubeSats and Amateur Radio? document/guide
>>> that
>>> at certain levels of detail clearly outlines the benefits, pitfalls and
>>> processes involved in using amateur radio within a planned cubesat
>>> project.
>>> It should preferably be written by AMSAT (available in the store?)
>>> however
>>> the amateur radio satellite community at large is a great resource. In
>>> essence, we need to tell folks not how (necessarily) but why they should
>>> include us and clearly outline the benefits (assuming we have a few).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All universities and even schools have in general a very effective
>>> communication group/department and their ability to promote their
>>> projects
>>> for fundraising purposes speaks volume. The lack of engagement by these
>>> groups with our community is based on previous experience and/or
>>> ignorance.
>>> Both of these are something we as a community have to take responsibility
>>> for. Negative experience based on cubesat bashing has done a lot of
>>> damage
>>> (based on very personal experience) and the lack of clearly outlining the
>>> benefits, our expertise, specific services and other tangible factors is
>>> also a factor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If, and I say if, engaging the cubesat community is a priority of AMSAT
>>> (NA), it will require time, resources and a full commitment by the board
>>> and yes, most of all volunteers. What could help is for example having a
>>> working group chaired by a VP for cubesats (small satellites) and having
>>> the annual meeting in partnership with one of the annual cubesat
>>> symposiums
>>> for a joint conference. However, the board will have to decide how
>>> important that is in comparison to other priorities. In the meantime, it
>>> is
>>> up to the individuals making an effort on the local level.
>>>
>>>
>>> My 2 cents, and I am going back working on our local ARISS project.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Clint Bradford
>>> <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>>>
>>> > >Is the guide available ...
>>> >
>>> > This is not the exact one I used for our ARISS contact ... but it is
>>> close
>>> > ...
>>> >
>>> > https://files.secureserver.net/0fgxMFjvG2DaFC
>>> >
>>> > I will upload the other one tonight - to the same folder.
>>> >
>>> > Clint
>>> > 909-241-7666 - cell
>>> >
>>> > ----------------------------------
>>> > Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>>> > http://www.clintbradford.com
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:49:30 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>, Richard Ferryman
<g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM
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We are hearing some interesting things from CAPE, one of the Cubesats from
Wallops. We are hearing 1 minute AX.25 telemetry, and we have heard two
Voice tests, and it has a CW message. All three modes in a Cubesat and on
the APRS 145.825 downlink... neat. The voice might be DSB? And we are
monitoiring in FM.
We haven't copied the AX.25 because all our primary receivers are
monitoring for DRAGONSAT on other frequency.
-----Original Messages-----
> because they are designed and operated by students and teachers with a
valid ham radio licence!
>> Then why are those cubesats using amateur frequencies?
>>> None of these cubesat developers has made any significant attempt to
>>> rally the amateur radio satellite community. In contrast, Funcube has
>>> a great community PR "machine" and we are all very excited for them.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:50:54 -0500
From: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Richard Ferryman <g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM
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One thing we learned in bureaucrat school is that jumping to conclusions is
not a healthy exercise. :-)
FCC licensed most of the new cubes as experimental stations and not as
amateur stations. Experimental stations may be assigned to any frequency,
provided they do not cause harmful interference to stations operating in
accordance with the ITU radio regulations. See RR Article 27 and 47 CFR
Part 5.
These experimental stations are not operating in the amateur-satellite
service, only sharing the bands on a secondary basis. They are permitted to
communicate only with stations listed on their license, so it would be
inappropriate for them to seek help from amateurs, though amateurs may
certainly listen. Note that experimental stations may encrypt their
transmissions.
Some of the satellites, such as TJ3SAT, and some others, are amateur
stations! Sure would be good for them to make a noise here on BB!! (HINT!)
I hope this helps.
73, art?..
W4ART Arlington VA
On 20-Nov-2013, at 07:56 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Well,
>
> because their are designed and operated by students and teachers with a
> valid ham radio licence!
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Richard Ferryman
<g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>
>> Then why are those cubesats using amateur frequencies?
>>
>> Dick G4BBH
http://afeller.us
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:02:10 -0800 (PST)
From: John Magliacane <kd2bd@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Minotaur Launch seen in FN42fs.
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<1384988530.76376.YahooMailBasic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I took my electronics students to the top floor of the Advanced Technology
Center at Brookdale Community College in Lincroft, NJ to see the launch.
The elevation was a lot higher than I expected. The "flares" that occurred
between rocket stages got some of the most Ooooo's. :-)
Very cool.
73, de John , KD2BD
> Easily seen in FN42fs, Nashua, NH.
>
> As Mark said, very cool.
>
> 73,
> Bill
> NJ1H
>
>> I got to see it clearly from North Carolina!
>>
>> Very cool.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mark N8MH
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:11:45 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Magliacane <kd2bd@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Minotaur Launch seen in FN42fs.
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Nice,
I wish we could flatten the earth a little so we could watch it from
Winnipeg, Manitoba. Now it is actually "Winterpeg" here (brrr cold).
Maybe, maybe CSA will at one point activate the Churchill launch site
again. Now it is overrun by polar bears :-)
Great experience! Glad you did it.
Stefan
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM, John Magliacane <kd2bd@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I took my electronics students to the top floor of the Advanced Technology
> Center at Brookdale Community College in Lincroft, NJ to see the launch.
>
> The elevation was a lot higher than I expected. The "flares" that
> occurred between rocket stages got some of the most Ooooo's. :-)
>
> Very cool.
>
>
> 73, de John , KD2BD
>
>
> > Easily seen in FN42fs, Nashua, NH.
> >
> > As Mark said, very cool.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bill
> > NJ1H
> >
> >> I got to see it clearly from North Carolina!
> >>
> >> Very cool.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Mark N8MH
>
> --
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>
> http://www.qsl.net/kd2bd/
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:11:10 -0800
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Wallops Launching 12 Cubesats Tuesday 7:30 PM
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Hi Art,
Now I'm a little confused by your comment that most Cubesats are
licensed as experimental. On yesterdays Minotaur launch, 17 Cubesats are
operated by Amateurs and were coordinated through the IARU.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
On 11/20/2013 2:50 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
> One thing we learned in bureaucrat school is that jumping to conclusions
is not a healthy exercise. :-)
>
> FCC licensed most of the new cubes as experimental stations and not as
amateur stations. Experimental stations may be assigned to any frequency,
provided they do not cause harmful interference to stations operating in
accordance with the ITU radio regulations. See RR Article 27 and 47 CFR
Part 5.
>
> These experimental stations are not operating in the amateur-satellite
service, only sharing the bands on a secondary basis. They are permitted to
communicate only with stations listed on their license, so it would be
inappropriate for them to seek help from amateurs, though amateurs may
certainly listen. Note that experimental stations may encrypt their
transmissions.
>
> Some of the satellites, such as TJ3SAT, and some others, are amateur
stations! Sure would be good for them to make a noise here on BB!! (HINT!)
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> 73, art?..
> W4ART Arlington VA
>
>
> On 20-Nov-2013, at 07:56 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Well,
>>
>> because their are designed and operated by students and teachers with a
>> valid ham radio licence!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Richard Ferryman
<g4bbh@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Then why are those cubesats using amateur frequencies?
>>>
>>> Dick G4BBH
>
> http://afeller.us
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:06:52 -0600
From: Jerry Ehlers <w0sat2@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: linear sats
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From: Jerry Ehlers <w0sat2@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:40 AM
Subject: linear sats
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xx
Hi: How many of these new birds that were launched or going to
be are
linear birds ?
What are the modes and when will they be in service. ???
I,m not interested in Cubesats .
Thanks
Jerry w0sat
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:34:17 -0000
From: "Ciaran Morgan" <Ciaran@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "'Jeff Yanko'" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Dnepr launch - online streaming?
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AMSAT-UK will be running a live web stream of the FUNcube-1 launch event,
which is one of the satellites on the dnepr, from 0700UTC November 21 2013.
Unfortunately we don't have a live feed from the launch site but we will be
streaming the events from the National Radio Centre based at Bletchley Park,
where the team that designed and built the satellite, the FUNcube Dongle and
the software developers responsible for the Dashboard software and the Data
Warehouse, will be present .
We will continue to stream live video from the National Radio Centre for the
first passes of FUNcube-1 over the UK, which we expect to be approximately 1
hour and 40 minutes after launch, and will continue with the passes that
will take place during the remaining of the morning.
The web stream can be accessed at www.batc.tv/streams/funcube1
The Dashboard software can be downloaded from
http://funcube.org.uk/working-documents/funcube-telemetry-dashboard/
You can also download some guidance notes that will help in the setting up
of the Dashboard software and there are instructions in the notes on
registering with the Data Warehouse so that any data you may capture can be
uploaded into the Data Warehouse.
7 and a half hours to go....
On behalf of the FUNcube-1 project team.
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Jeff Yanko
Sent: 20 November 2013 21:41
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dnepr launch - online streaming?
Will the upcoming launch be streamed on-line?
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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