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Today's Topics:
1. Dnepr Launch - AMSAT Echolink Conference (Clint Bradford)
2. FUNcube-1 monitoring station ready for tomorrows launch (M5AKA)
3. Re: Public Relations Lacking (Rich/wa4bue)
4. Re: Dnepr Launch - AMSAT Echolink Conference (Clint Bradford)
5. Re: Public Relations Lacking (Clint Bradford)
6. Re: Public Relations Lacking (Stefan Wagener)
7. Re: Public Relations Lacking (Bryce Salmi)
8. Re: Public Relations Lacking (Clint K6LCS)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:20:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dnepr Launch - AMSAT Echolink Conference
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Last night was exciting with the IRC chat room covering the NASA launch ...
Is anyone going to be entering the AMSAT Echolink conference for the Dnepr
launch
tonight? Or is there another congregation point for insomniacs - er, I mean,
satellite launch fans?
Clint K6LCS
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Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.clintbradford.com
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:38:20 +0000 (GMT)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 monitoring station ready for tomorrows
launch
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FUNcube-1 is planned to launch
Thursday at 07:10:11. The monitoring station at Bletchley Park has been
set up and is ready to receive the first signals. See
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/20/funcube-1-ground-station-is-ready-for-launch/
There are about 19 other satellites carrying amateur radio payloads on
tomorrows launch.
Frequency list for amateur radio satellite deployments in November
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/11/13/three-amateur-radio-satellite-deployments-in-no
vember/
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73 Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK website http://amsat-uk.org/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AMSAT-UK/208113275898396
Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:44:15 -0500
From: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>, "Clint Bradford"
<clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
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Guess that AMSAT and it's members need to have that guide, and try to
coordinate with these other organization may be in conjunction with NASA.
Is the guide available from the government printing office???
God Bless
Rich
W4BUE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
> Amsat is looking for a VP in Marketing!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Clint Bradford
> <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>
>> > ... None of these cubesat developers has made any significant attempt
>> > to
>> rally
>> the amateur radio satellite community ...
>>
>> That is because very few of the organizations/campuses with satellites
>> being deployed
>> this week have public relations professionals to properly promote their
>> projects. And
>> if they do have public relations departments, they have not been
>> "educated" as to the
>> true value of their projects to the amateur radio world.
>>
>> That's OUR responsibility. And we all can share the blame for this.
>>
>> NASA does it well with their 28-page Guide to conducting an ARISS
>> contact.
>> Included are
>> timetables for media alerts (used to be called "press releases"),
>> detailed
>> step-by-step
>> instructions for micro-managing every aspect of the project ... THAT'S
>> what "we" should
>> develop for EVERY one of these amateur radio satellite projects for
>> schools and amateur
>> satellite builders could use to better promote their projects. Of course,
>> project
>> managers can opt not to use such a guide. But when they realize the free
>> publicity their
>> project could easily garner (media attendance and coverage, promotion by
>> AMSAT on their
>> various Web sites, et al) - "we" would make it very attractive TO use
>> such
>> a guide.
>>
>> I think AMSAT-NA should take the lead on this, and establish a committee
>> to develop
>> such a plan for future projects. I volunteer.
>>
>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> 909-241-7666 - cell, California
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>> http://www.clintbradford.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:48:37 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Dnepr Launch - AMSAT Echolink Conference
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Yes, I know it is a sign of some sort of mental illness to answer
one's own inquiries on the "Net ...
Cubesat teams will again maintain a presence on the
#cubesat IRC channel at ...
http://webchat.freenode.net/
... as well as via the AMSAT-BB.
Clint
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Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.clintbradford.com
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:56:43 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>, Stefan Wagener
<wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
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>Is the guide available ...
This is not the exact one I used for our ARISS contact ... but it is close ...
https://files.secureserver.net/0fgxMFjvG2DaFC
I will upload the other one tonight - to the same folder.
Clint
909-241-7666 - cell
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Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.clintbradford.com
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:02:54 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
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This ARISS guide is very useful for schools and communities seeking a voice
contact with the ISS. It is a procedure "manual" for a very specific
purpose to guide applicants in the process for one specific goal, the
contact. While the guide clearly fulfills its purpose and is used widely in
preparation, it does not even mention AMSAT (however refers to the ARRL).
However, the format and purpose is NOT useful for engaging individuals
and/or groups involved in cubesats and amateur radio.
What is needed is a ?101 on CubeSats and Amateur Radio? document/guide that
at certain levels of detail clearly outlines the benefits, pitfalls and
processes involved in using amateur radio within a planned cubesat project.
It should preferably be written by AMSAT (available in the store?) however
the amateur radio satellite community at large is a great resource. In
essence, we need to tell folks not how (necessarily) but why they should
include us and clearly outline the benefits (assuming we have a few).
All universities and even schools have in general a very effective
communication group/department and their ability to promote their projects
for fundraising purposes speaks volume. The lack of engagement by these
groups with our community is based on previous experience and/or ignorance.
Both of these are something we as a community have to take responsibility
for. Negative experience based on cubesat bashing has done a lot of damage
(based on very personal experience) and the lack of clearly outlining the
benefits, our expertise, specific services and other tangible factors is
also a factor.
If, and I say if, engaging the cubesat community is a priority of AMSAT
(NA), it will require time, resources and a full commitment by the board
and yes, most of all volunteers. What could help is for example having a
working group chaired by a VP for cubesats (small satellites) and having
the annual meeting in partnership with one of the annual cubesat symposiums
for a joint conference. However, the board will have to decide how
important that is in comparison to other priorities. In the meantime, it is
up to the individuals making an effort on the local level.
My 2 cents, and I am going back working on our local ARISS project.
Stefan
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Clint Bradford
<clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
> >Is the guide available ...
>
> This is not the exact one I used for our ARISS contact ... but it is close
> ...
>
> https://files.secureserver.net/0fgxMFjvG2DaFC
>
> I will upload the other one tonight - to the same folder.
>
> Clint
> 909-241-7666 - cell
>
> ----------------------------------
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> http://www.clintbradford.com
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:49:59 -0800
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
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Just a few comments:
- I'd be up for any document like this being publicly available
- AMSAT Engineering is using it's expertise in radio comms as leverage
for supplying a comms board to other cubesat payloads that can be turn into
a full fledged bent pipe transmitter at end of mission. Not sure if this is
actively being promoted yet, probably more leverage once Fox-1 flies
- I have no idea if AMSAT has a presence (official) at the cubesat
symposiums and conferences (I think there's a big one in Utah or at least
was). That would be a good idea for this.
- A great start would be to build up excitement within amateur radio and
use that momentum to extend it. Again at least on AMSAT-NA side of thing
Fox-1 is a big step towards that.
Nice discussion!
Bryce
KB1LQC
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> This ARISS guide is very useful for schools and communities seeking a voice
> contact with the ISS. It is a procedure "manual" for a very specific
> purpose to guide applicants in the process for one specific goal, the
> contact. While the guide clearly fulfills its purpose and is used widely in
> preparation, it does not even mention AMSAT (however refers to the ARRL).
> However, the format and purpose is NOT useful for engaging individuals
> and/or groups involved in cubesats and amateur radio.
>
>
>
> What is needed is a ?101 on CubeSats and Amateur Radio? document/guide that
> at certain levels of detail clearly outlines the benefits, pitfalls and
> processes involved in using amateur radio within a planned cubesat project.
> It should preferably be written by AMSAT (available in the store?) however
> the amateur radio satellite community at large is a great resource. In
> essence, we need to tell folks not how (necessarily) but why they should
> include us and clearly outline the benefits (assuming we have a few).
>
>
>
> All universities and even schools have in general a very effective
> communication group/department and their ability to promote their projects
> for fundraising purposes speaks volume. The lack of engagement by these
> groups with our community is based on previous experience and/or ignorance.
> Both of these are something we as a community have to take responsibility
> for. Negative experience based on cubesat bashing has done a lot of damage
> (based on very personal experience) and the lack of clearly outlining the
> benefits, our expertise, specific services and other tangible factors is
> also a factor.
>
>
>
> If, and I say if, engaging the cubesat community is a priority of AMSAT
> (NA), it will require time, resources and a full commitment by the board
> and yes, most of all volunteers. What could help is for example having a
> working group chaired by a VP for cubesats (small satellites) and having
> the annual meeting in partnership with one of the annual cubesat symposiums
> for a joint conference. However, the board will have to decide how
> important that is in comparison to other priorities. In the meantime, it is
> up to the individuals making an effort on the local level.
>
>
> My 2 cents, and I am going back working on our local ARISS project.
>
>
> Stefan
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Clint Bradford
> <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>
> > >Is the guide available ...
> >
> > This is not the exact one I used for our ARISS contact ... but it is
> close
> > ...
> >
> > https://files.secureserver.net/0fgxMFjvG2DaFC
> >
> > I will upload the other one tonight - to the same folder.
> >
> > Clint
> > 909-241-7666 - cell
> >
> > ----------------------------------
> > Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> > http://www.clintbradford.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:53:42 -0800
From: Clint K6LCS <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
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The ARISS guide is valuable to us all as an example of how a well-designed
project campaign is conducted. I did not offer it as a template for sat
projects.
Sorry to be so brief, but am having lunch with the woman who was in charge
of media relations for the Colorado theatre shooting ... Speaking of public
relations ...
Sent from my iPod touch.
On Nov 20, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
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