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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Phase 3 (Robert McGwier)
2. Re: Phase 3 (Jim Jerzycke)
3. Falcon 9 Successfully Launched (B J)
4. Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched (Jim Jerzycke)
5. Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched (B J)
6. Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched (Jim Jerzycke)
7. Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched (Donald Jacob)
8. Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched (Rick Tejera)
9. Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched (Bryce Salmi)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:27:08 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
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Ah yes and how many knew Martin Sweeting was involved in early design
meetings for P3A? Sorry for leaving you out Sir Martin!
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>wrote:
> From one of the great minds of our history. Marty showed us how good the
> kinds of writing he did would be for us......
>
> The first photo is one of the first formal meetings where Karl, Jan,
> Marty Davidoff, Tom Clark and others discuss Phase 3A. These were GLORIOUS
> years for AMSAT. No one denies this and no amount of back biting or rehash
> of old incidents will fix it. The tools they had were their brains, a
> pencil, and SOME calculation engine. The tools we have today allow many
> more to play. The achievements that Karl's GENIUS, Jan's system
> engineering and the technical input and guidance from the rest gave
> (including Marty) are unsung and poorly told songs of the indomitable
> spirit of these free spirited thinkers...
>
>
>
http://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/Phase-3-A/001-Meetings-01-Technical/2053450_WkWb
c9#!i=105550031&k=L7jf7FJ
>
> And this one even earlier (that's Rich Zwirko, K1HTV in coat and tie).
> If others can identify people (not including Tom, Marty, Karl, and Jan and
> Rich) please let me know who they are.
>
>
>
http://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/Phase-3-A/001-Meetings-01-Technical/2053450_WkWb
c9#!i=105550132&k=PqJ99cK
>
> I almost could wish I was 15 years older or had a time machine.....
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I recently obtained a copy of the 1990 edition of Martin Davidoff's
>> Satellite Experimenters' Handbook and as I was browsing through the book,
>> I
>> came across a passage on page 4-9 about the difficulties with UO-11,
>> that's
>> very relevant to the ongoing debate about the lack of Phase 3 satellites:
>>
>> "If there's a message here, it's that taking part in the amateur satellite
>> program is not for the faint-hearted. Setbacks and barriers will always be
>> part of the picture. And, the most rewarding successes will probably come
>> from employing ingenuity and tenacity to overcome the 'impossible'
>> hurdles."
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>> Washington, DC (FM18lv)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:17 PM, <MLengruesser@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Dan,
>> >
>> > OSCAR-10 (P3-B) used the same 400N engine as OSCAR-13 (P3-C) and
>> > OSCAR-40 (P3-D).
>> > For P3-E we have a 200N motor from EADS Astrium, the same one which is
>> > used on the European ATV...
>> >
>> > I was AMSAT P3-A (planned to be OSCAR-9) which used a solid propellant
>> > apogee kick-motor.
>> > It's under the water near the cost of french Guiana.. RIP
>> >
>> > You can find an very good article here:
>> > http://www.ka9q.net/AMSAT-Tech-Journal-2.pdf
>> > See page 8..15
>> >
>> > Rest assured, the PFA and propulsion system was qualified according to
>> > highest commercial standards by commercial companies. Thus in no way
>> > there would be any risk to the launcher or other payloads. This also
>> > includes several levels of safety borders in the hardware design and in
>> > the software. The launch agencies have there own specialized personal
>> > to review all the details... Without that, nobody would have
>> launched
>> > any of the P3 satellites !!!
>> > What happened to AO-40 later on after orbit injection and after
>> > activating the systems is a completely different matter and did not
>> > present any risk to the launcher at any time!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Michael R. Lengruesser, DD5ER
>> >
>> > AMSAT-DL e.V.
>> > -- International Satellites for Communication,
>> > Science and Education --
>> > mlengruesser@xxxxxxxx.xxx
>> > http://www.amsat-dl.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In einer eMail vom 22.09.2013 21:07:08 Westeurop?ische Sommerzeit
>> schreibt
>> > n8fgv@xxx.xxxx
>> >
>> > >>The apogee motors for OSCAR-10,and OSCAR-13 were solid propellant
>> > >>400 Newton trust motors donated to AMSAT-DL by the Messerschmitt
>> > Aerospace
>> > >>Company in Germany.
>> >
>> > Only Phase 3A had a solid fuel motor. AO-10 and AO-13 had liquid fuel
>> > bi-propellent motors the same as AO-40. No matter how well designed
>> they
>> > are,
>> > they still have the potential to blow up the entire launch stack if
>> > something
>> > goes wrong. Since Dick Daniels is no longer with us, the knowledge has
>> > been
>> > lost and we will not be launching any more of these in the future.
>> >
>> > Dan Schultz N8FGV
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
>> author.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> > program!
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
>> author.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
>
>
> --
> Bob McGwier
> Owner and Technical Director, Allied Communication, LLC
> Professor Virginia Tech
> Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
> Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
>
--
Bob McGwier
Owner and Technical Director, Allied Communication, LLC
Professor Virginia Tech
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:41:10 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
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Those must have been exciting times!
73, Jim KQ6EA
On 09/29/2013 03:27 PM, Robert McGwier wrote:
> Ah yes and how many knew Martin Sweeting was involved in early design
> meetings for P3A? Sorry for leaving you out Sir Martin!
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>
>> From one of the great minds of our history. Marty showed us how good the
>> kinds of writing he did would be for us......
>>
>> The first photo is one of the first formal meetings where Karl, Jan,
>> Marty Davidoff, Tom Clark and others discuss Phase 3A. These were GLORIOUS
>> years for AMSAT. No one denies this and no amount of back biting or rehash
>> of old incidents will fix it. The tools they had were their brains, a
>> pencil, and SOME calculation engine. The tools we have today allow many
>> more to play. The achievements that Karl's GENIUS, Jan's system
>> engineering and the technical input and guidance from the rest gave
>> (including Marty) are unsung and poorly told songs of the indomitable
>> spirit of these free spirited thinkers...
>>
>>
>>
http://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/Phase-3-A/001-Meetings-01-Technical/2053450_WkWb
c9#!i=105550031&k=L7jf7FJ
>>
>> And this one even earlier (that's Rich Zwirko, K1HTV in coat and tie).
>> If others can identify people (not including Tom, Marty, Karl, and Jan
and
>> Rich) please let me know who they are.
>>
>>
>>
http://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/Phase-3-A/001-Meetings-01-Technical/2053450_WkWb
c9#!i=105550132&k=PqJ99cK
>>
>> I almost could wish I was 15 years older or had a time machine.....
>>
>> Bob
>> N4HY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently obtained a copy of the 1990 edition of Martin Davidoff's
>>> Satellite Experimenters' Handbook and as I was browsing through the book,
>>> I
>>> came across a passage on page 4-9 about the difficulties with UO-11,
>>> that's
>>> very relevant to the ongoing debate about the lack of Phase 3 satellites:
>>>
>>> "If there's a message here, it's that taking part in the amateur satellite
>>> program is not for the faint-hearted. Setbacks and barriers will always be
>>> part of the picture. And, the most rewarding successes will probably come
>>> from employing ingenuity and tenacity to overcome the 'impossible'
>>> hurdles."
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>>> Washington, DC (FM18lv)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:17 PM, <MLengruesser@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>
>>>> OSCAR-10 (P3-B) used the same 400N engine as OSCAR-13 (P3-C) and
>>>> OSCAR-40 (P3-D).
>>>> For P3-E we have a 200N motor from EADS Astrium, the same one which is
>>>> used on the European ATV...
>>>>
>>>> I was AMSAT P3-A (planned to be OSCAR-9) which used a solid propellant
>>>> apogee kick-motor.
>>>> It's under the water near the cost of french Guiana.. RIP
>>>>
>>>> You can find an very good article here:
>>>> http://www.ka9q.net/AMSAT-Tech-Journal-2.pdf
>>>> See page 8..15
>>>>
>>>> Rest assured, the PFA and propulsion system was qualified according to
>>>> highest commercial standards by commercial companies. Thus in no way
>>>> there would be any risk to the launcher or other payloads. This also
>>>> includes several levels of safety borders in the hardware design and in
>>>> the software. The launch agencies have there own specialized personal
>>>> to review all the details... Without that, nobody would have
>>> launched
>>>> any of the P3 satellites !!!
>>>> What happened to AO-40 later on after orbit injection and after
>>>> activating the systems is a completely different matter and did not
>>>> present any risk to the launcher at any time!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael R. Lengruesser, DD5ER
>>>>
>>>> AMSAT-DL e.V.
>>>> -- International Satellites for Communication,
>>>> Science and Education --
>>>> mlengruesser@xxxxxxxx.xxx
>>>> http://www.amsat-dl.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In einer eMail vom 22.09.2013 21:07:08 Westeurop?ische Sommerzeit
>>> schreibt
>>>> n8fgv@xxx.xxxx
>>>>
>>>>>> The apogee motors for OSCAR-10,and OSCAR-13 were solid propellant
>>>>>> 400 Newton trust motors donated to AMSAT-DL by the Messerschmitt
>>>> Aerospace
>>>>>> Company in Germany.
>>>> Only Phase 3A had a solid fuel motor. AO-10 and AO-13 had liquid fuel
>>>> bi-propellent motors the same as AO-40. No matter how well designed
>>> they
>>>> are,
>>>> they still have the potential to blow up the entire launch stack if
>>>> something
>>>> goes wrong. Since Dick Daniels is no longer with us, the knowledge has
>>>> been
>>>> lost and we will not be launching any more of these in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Dan Schultz N8FGV
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
>>> author.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
>>> author.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob McGwier
>> Owner and Technical Director, Allied Communication, LLC
>> Professor Virginia Tech
>> Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
>> Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
>>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:18:07 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Falcon 9 Successfully Launched
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All indications are that everything went as planned, though the video
downlink was intermittent. Deployment of payloads has apparently
started.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:40:29 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched
Message-ID: <524857FD.8040801@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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I was able to see a bit of the contrail here in Long Beach.
73, Jim KQ6EA
On 09/29/2013 04:18 PM, B J wrote:
> All indications are that everything went as planned, though the video
> downlink was intermittent. Deployment of payloads has apparently
> started.
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:37:11 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched
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On 9/29/13, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I was able to see a bit of the contrail here in Long Beach.
That must have been an impressive sight.
Just after ignition, I thought the liftoff was rather slow but the
rocket certainly sped up after it cleared the tower. Until that
happened, I thought that it wasn't going to fly at all or come
crashing down onto the pad.
All payloads have been successfully deployed:
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/09/29/falcon-9-launch-payloads-orbit-vandenbe
rg/
http://www.americaspace.com/?p=43113
73s
Bernhard VA6BMj @ DO33FL
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:42:53 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched
Message-ID: <5248669D.2010801@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Naw, not really.
Kinda looked like somebody a few blocks away lit off a firework. If you
didn't know what it was, you wouldn't have looked twice at it.
Now a NIGHT LAUNCH from VAFB is really something to see!
Jim
On 09/29/2013 05:37 PM, B J wrote:
> On 9/29/13, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> I was able to see a bit of the contrail here in Long Beach.
> That must have been an impressive sight.
>
> Just after ignition, I thought the liftoff was rather slow but the
> rocket certainly sped up after it cleared the tower. Until that
> happened, I thought that it wasn't going to fly at all or come
> crashing down onto the pad.
>
> All payloads have been successfully deployed:
>
>
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/09/29/falcon-9-launch-payloads-orbit-vandenbe
rg/
> http://www.americaspace.com/?p=43113
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMj @ DO33FL
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:55:58 -0700
From: Donald Jacob <wb5eku@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched
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Watched the initial liftoff on computer then ran outside to see the
contrail from the San Fernando Valley. It seems to be headed in a more
westerly direction than I usually see from my home.
Congratulations to SpaceX. Great job.
Don Jacob
WB5EKU
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Naw, not really.
>
> Kinda looked like somebody a few blocks away lit off a firework. If you
> didn't know what it was, you wouldn't have looked twice at it.
>
> Now a NIGHT LAUNCH from VAFB is really something to see!
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On 09/29/2013 05:37 PM, B J wrote:
>
>> On 9/29/13, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I was able to see a bit of the contrail here in Long Beach.
>>>
>> That must have been an impressive sight.
>>
>> Just after ignition, I thought the liftoff was rather slow but the
>> rocket certainly sped up after it cleared the tower. Until that
>> happened, I thought that it wasn't going to fly at all or come
>> crashing down onto the pad.
>>
>> All payloads have been successfully deployed:
>>
>> http://www.parabolicarc.com/**2013/09/29/falcon-9-launch-**
>>
payloads-orbit-vandenberg/<http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/09/29/falcon-9-lau
nch-payloads-orbit-vandenberg/>
>>
http://www.americaspace.com/?**p=43113<http://www.americaspace.com/?p=43113>
>>
>> 73s
>>
>> Bernhard VA6BMj @ DO33FL
>>
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:06:44 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <SaguaroAstro@xxx.xxx>
To: "'Jim Jerzycke'" <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'B J'" <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched
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Years ago I was out telescoping with my astronomy club at a spot about 50
miles west of Phoenix. Just about an hour or so after sunset, we saw this
iridescent orange pillar rising in the west. A Delta with a full complement
of Solid boosters had just launched. We were able to follow it long after
the solids cut out as the sun illuminated the exhaust plume from the main
engines. Staging was quite obvious.
A Spectacular sight, for sure
73
Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org
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Behalf Of Jim Jerzycke
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:43
To: B J
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched
Naw, not really.
Kinda looked like somebody a few blocks away lit off a firework. If you
didn't know what it was, you wouldn't have looked twice at it.
Now a NIGHT LAUNCH from VAFB is really something to see!
Jim
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:09:05 -0700
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Successfully Launched
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Just watched it in Person from 7 miles away. Amazing.
B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>All indications are that everything went as planned, though the video
>downlink was intermittent. Deployment of payloads has apparently
>started.
>
>73s
>
>Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
>_______________________________________________
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>author.
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