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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Phase 3 (Angus McLeod)
2. Re: Phase 3 (Greg D)
3. Re: Italian Middle School ARISS Contact
(=?utf-8?B?am9obmFnOWRAZ21haWwuY29t?=)
4. Re: Phase 3 (Edward R Cole)
5. Re: Phase 3 (Bob- W7LRD)
6. UT1FG worked AO-7 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
7. Mighty Eagle Test Flight (B J)
8. Cygnus Scheduled To Dock With ISS Tomorrow (B J)
9. Re: Phase 3 (i8cvs)
10. Re: Phase 3 (i8cvs)
11. Re: Phase 3 (Daniel Schultz)
12. Re: Phase 3 (Jim Jerzycke)
13. Re: Phase 3 (Angus McLeod)
14. ANS-265 (Joe Spier)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:27:18 -0400
From: Angus McLeod <amcleod@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
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As far as I know, the kick-motors used on the Phase-3 birds were NOT
cardboard tubes packed with homemade gunpowder. They were commercial
grade motors obtained from the commercial aerospace industry. If I am
wrong about this, and someone can jump in with facts, I'd be glad to hear.
On 09/21/2013 05:48 AM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:23:29PM +0600, R Oler wrote:
>> While anything is possible I will be very surprised (pleasntly) if there
is another amateur radio satellite with a liquid propulsion system that is
managed by any amateur group that gets a ride into any sort of HEO transfer
orbit.Ion engines might be different but after AO-40 and its propulsion
issues the days of amateurs playing with rocket engines on commercial
flights I suspect is over.
>>
> This is something I've often wondered about. "Oh hi, commercial rocket
company, can we stick our homebrewed rocket into your billion dollar vehicle?"
>
> When people with more oil than weapons stuff some mix of chemicals into a
tube and crimp the end shut it's called an Improvised Explosive Device.
We're supposed to somehow convince someone to let us tack our semitested
bomb onto their flight? I doubt they're going to go for it...
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:48:00 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
Message-ID: <523DF7F0.8010509@xxxxx.xxx>
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Not to single out Michael on this, but I need to chime in. Realism has
its place, but it also has its dangers. Too much of it, and you just
might get your way.
At work, several major programs were behind schedule. The teams were
working hard, but cutting-edge work is never easy, and significant
problems remained to be overcome. Our engineering manager sent out the
following email, to remind us of our task:
---------------------
There once was a bunch of tiny frogs who got together to arrange a
competition to reach to the top of the highest tower in town.
As the date for the competition was announced, the news spread
everywhere and crowd in large numbers gathered around the tower to see
this interesting competition and cheer on the contestants. The crowd did
not really believe any of these little frogs were going to make it to
the top of the tower. Yet they were curious?
The competition began, the frogs quickly started to ascend and the crowd
cheered!
As a few moments passed, someone from the crowd shouted, "Not a chance
that they will succeed! The tower is too high!" Another spectator said,
"Yes, they will never make it to the top. It's way too difficult!"
As the competition continued, some of the tiny frogs began collapsing.
One by one? tired? exhausted? But the race continued? as those who still
had the fight left, passionately continued to climb higher and higher?
In the excitement and anxiety the crowd continued to yell, "It is too
difficult. No one will make it!"
More tiny frogs got tired and gave up. They all continued to give up one
by one, until there was only ONE little frog left in the competition who
continued to climb higher and higher and higher?
This one wouldn?t give up!
This one tiny frog who, after a big effort was the only one who reached
the top! This little soul was the winner! He made it! He got the glory!
Naturally, everyone wanted to know how this one tiny frog managed to
pull it off when every other contestant gave up. Everybody wanted to
know how this tiny frog had found the strength to reach this goal that
everyone else thought it was impossible. So, they asked questions.
It turned out that the winner was deaf.
The Moral Of The Story
Do not pay attention to what other people?s opinions are when it comes
to your dreams and goals. Focus on your goal and march in confidence.
People will always have opinions and generally ? a negative one. Do not
pay any attention to them.
I am inspired. I am deaf. Are you listening :-D ?
-----------------------
I believe the AMSAT organizations across the planet will launch and
operate the best fleet of Amateur Satellites that can be launched.
Variety, including HEO, is and has always been a goal. We collectively
are a creative bunch, and I know that there are technologies and options
out there that we have not yet developed or identified, that will move
us towards our goal. And when the satellites come, I will use them, with
thanks.
Greg KO6TH
p.s. The first of the above referenced products will begin Release
Candidate testing on Monday...
Michael wrote:
> Trust me, no one out there wants me to be more totally wrong about
> P3-E than myself but my guess is that it will never ever see space. I
> want to be wrong soooooo bad but I'm a realist.
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:01:13 -0500
From: "=?utf-8?B?am9obmFnOWRAZ21haWwuY29t?=" <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "=?utf-8?B?Q2xpbnQgQnJhZGZvcmQ=?=" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Italian Middle School ARISS Contact
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Well had a done my time conversion correctly my alarm would have gone off an
hour earlier and there would have been working echolink and web audio. I'm
an army of one.
We will try it again on the one later in the week.
John AG9D
Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
----- Reply message -----
From: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Date: Sat, Sep 21, 2013 5:25 am
Subject: [amsat-bb] Italian Middle School ARISS Contact
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Astronaut Luca was just heard wonderfully here in Southern California,
answering inquiries.
Couldn't hear a peep on Echolink. And the live audio feed page cited
was not loading at all. BUT it sounded great on the downlonk!
Clint K6LCS
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:32:26 -0800
From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
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Greg,
Great story - I love it!
To pick a service, the Marines have what is
called "CAN DO" attitude - they have a great
history of achievement. If all you have is
"CAN'T DO", you won't. Certainly one must know
the fights to pick and those to
skip. Fortunately there are a few who didn't listen to that.
Ask just about any successful person how he made
it. You probably will hear the many times they
were defeated before succeeding. So keep on
looking for a way to achieve your dreams! Can't will not. Quit never does.
Amsat needs a professional salesman! You know
how many times a salesman is told "NO" or no
thanks? If you just quit no sales will ever be
made! BTW I should say "sales person".
So think "CAN DO" and keep looking and asking and selling!
73, Ed - KL7UW
I am pulling for P3E, but also open to suggestions
At 11:48 AM 9/21/2013, Greg D wrote:
>Not to single out Michael on this, but I need to
>chime in. Realism has its place, but it also has
>its dangers. Too much of it, and you just might get your way.
>
>At work, several major programs were behind
>schedule. The teams were working hard, but
>cutting-edge work is never easy, and significant
>problems remained to be overcome. Our
>engineering manager sent out the following email, to remind us of our task:
>
>---------------------
>There once was a bunch of tiny frogs who got
>together to arrange a competition to reach to
>the top of the highest tower in town.
>
>As the date for the competition was announced,
>the news spread everywhere and crowd in large
>numbers gathered around the tower to see this
>interesting competition and cheer on the
>contestants. The crowd did not really believe
>any of these little frogs were going to make it
>to the top of the tower. Yet they were curious?
>
>The competition began, the frogs quickly started
>to ascend and the crowd cheered!
>
>As a few moments passed, someone from the crowd
>shouted, "Not a chance that they will succeed!
>The tower is too high!" Another spectator said,
>"Yes, they will never make it to the top. It's way too difficult!"
>
>As the competition continued, some of the tiny
>frogs began collapsing. One by one? tired?
>exhausted? But the race continued? as those who
>still had the fight left, passionately continued to climb higher and higher?
>In the excitement and anxiety the crowd
>continued to yell, "It is too difficult. No one will make it!"
>More tiny frogs got tired and gave up. They all
>continued to give up one by one, until there was
>only ONE little frog left in the competition who
>continued to climb higher and higher and higher?
>
>This one wouldn?t give up!
>
>This one tiny frog who, after a big effort was
>the only one who reached the top! This little
>soul was the winner! He made it! He got the glory!
>
>Naturally, everyone wanted to know how this one
>tiny frog managed to pull it off when every
>other contestant gave up. Everybody wanted to
>know how this tiny frog had found the strength
>to reach this goal that everyone else thought it
>was impossible. So, they asked questions.
>
>It turned out that the winner was deaf.
>
>The Moral Of The Story
>
>Do not pay attention to what other people?s
>opinions are when it comes to your dreams and
>goals. Focus on your goal and march in
>confidence. People will always have opinions and
>generally ? a negative one. Do not pay any attention to them.
>
>I am inspired. I am deaf. Are you listening :-D ?
>-----------------------
>
>I believe the AMSAT organizations across the
>planet will launch and operate the best fleet of
>Amateur Satellites that can be launched.
>Variety, including HEO, is and has always been a
>goal. We collectively are a creative bunch, and
>I know that there are technologies and options
>out there that we have not yet developed or
>identified, that will move us towards our goal.
>And when the satellites come, I will use them, with thanks.
>
>Greg KO6TH
>
>p.s. The first of the above referenced products
>will begin Release Candidate testing on Monday...
>
>
>Michael wrote:
>>Trust me, no one out there wants me to be more
>>totally wrong about P3-E than myself but my
>>guess is that it will never ever see space. I
>>want to be wrong soooooo bad but I'm a realist.
>>73,
>>Michael, W4HIJ
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73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
"Kits made by KL7UW"
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:54:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
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that little frog kept thinking,"the difficult I can do immediately the
impossible may take a little longer"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg D" <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:48:00 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
Not to single out Michael on this, but I need to chime in. Realism has
its place, but it also has its dangers. Too much of it, and you just
might get your way.
At work, several major programs were behind schedule. The teams were
working hard, but cutting-edge work is never easy, and significant
problems remained to be overcome. Our engineering manager sent out the
following email, to remind us of our task:
---------------------
There once was a bunch of tiny frogs who got together to arrange a
competition to reach to the top of the highest tower in town.
As the date for the competition was announced, the news spread
everywhere and crowd in large numbers gathered around the tower to see
this interesting competition and cheer on the contestants. The crowd did
not really believe any of these little frogs were going to make it to
the top of the tower. Yet they were curious?
The competition began, the frogs quickly started to ascend and the crowd
cheered!
As a few moments passed, someone from the crowd shouted, "Not a chance
that they will succeed! The tower is too high!" Another spectator said,
"Yes, they will never make it to the top. It's way too difficult!"
As the competition continued, some of the tiny frogs began collapsing.
One by one? tired? exhausted? But the race continued? as those who still
had the fight left, passionately continued to climb higher and higher?
In the excitement and anxiety the crowd continued to yell, "It is too
difficult. No one will make it!"
More tiny frogs got tired and gave up. They all continued to give up one
by one, until there was only ONE little frog left in the competition who
continued to climb higher and higher and higher?
This one wouldn?t give up!
This one tiny frog who, after a big effort was the only one who reached
the top! This little soul was the winner! He made it! He got the glory!
Naturally, everyone wanted to know how this one tiny frog managed to
pull it off when every other contestant gave up. Everybody wanted to
know how this tiny frog had found the strength to reach this goal that
everyone else thought it was impossible. So, they asked questions.
It turned out that the winner was deaf.
The Moral Of The Story
Do not pay attention to what other people?s opinions are when it comes
to your dreams and goals. Focus on your goal and march in confidence.
People will always have opinions and generally ? a negative one. Do not
pay any attention to them.
I am inspired. I am deaf. Are you listening :-D ?
-----------------------
I believe the AMSAT organizations across the planet will launch and
operate the best fleet of Amateur Satellites that can be launched.
Variety, including HEO, is and has always been a goal. We collectively
are a creative bunch, and I know that there are technologies and options
out there that we have not yet developed or identified, that will move
us towards our goal. And when the satellites come, I will use them, with
thanks.
Greg KO6TH
p.s. The first of the above referenced products will begin Release
Candidate testing on Monday...
Michael wrote:
> Trust me, no one out there wants me to be more totally wrong about
> P3-E than myself but my guess is that it will never ever see space. I
> want to be wrong soooooo bad but I'm a realist.
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 17:55:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] UT1FG worked AO-7
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After a few misfires, I worked Yuri today on AO-7 Mode B. He is anchored
pretty close to the GF24/GF25 line, offshore from Montevideo, Uruguay. He
reported GF24, so using GF24ex as his location, the Tiny Locator program
says 7585 km, or 4737 miles to my QTH.
I tried a few times last week, but was gone from home for much of the
workweek, activating grids in NFL/GA/AL between jobs.
You guys sitting around waiting for a HEO ought to get out and operate a
bit...it's still fun.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 22:17:41 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mighty Eagle Test Flight
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http://moonandback.com/2013/09/21/mighty-eagle-improves-autonomous-landing-sof
tware-with-successful-test-flight/
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/09/21/eagle-tests-mon-express-flight-sorftwar
e/
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 22:18:49 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cygnus Scheduled To Dock With ISS Tomorrow
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/09/21/cygnus-flies-smoothly-iss-rendezvous-su
nday-morning/
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:15:53 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Angus McLeod" <amcleod@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
Message-ID: <000e01ceb739$abe87440$0301a8c0@xxxxx>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Angus McLeod" <amcleod@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:27 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
> As far as I know, the kick-motors used on the Phase-3 birds were NOT
> cardboard tubes packed with homemade gunpowder. They were commercial
> grade motors obtained from the commercial aerospace industry. If I am
> wrong about this, and someone can jump in with facts, I'd be glad to hear.
Hi Angus,
The kitch apogee motors for OSCAR-10,and OSCAR-13 were solid propellant
400 Newton trust motors donated to AMSAT-DL by the Messerschmitt Aerospace
Company in Germany.
The kick apogee motor for AO40 was a liquid propellant made with UMDH and
nitrogen tetroxide but it failed to work because unfortunately someone
before
the flight forgot to remove the safety red cover over the exost valve of the
fuel system and this is why after many attemps to overcome the problem the
satellite got an explosion inside wich damaged most part of transponders.
BTW AO40 worked fantastic in Mode U/S ,Mode L/S and Mode L/K for
a long time until the main battery and the spare battery system suddently
failed in short circuit.
73" de i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:16:47 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Wayne Estes" <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
Message-ID: <001401ceb739$cb0340d0$0301a8c0@xxxxx>
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Hi Wayne, W9AE
I suggest you to realistically donate your $1000 to AMSAT-DL for
contribution to a fund raising campaign for the launch of P3E
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Estes" <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
> What is realistically achievable with a 3U cubesat with an ion engine?
>
> Cost of the satellite?
> Cost of the launch?
>
> Time/cost to develop ion engine?
>
> How many month/years would it take for an ion engine to boost a 3U
> cubesat from 600 km to 2000 km?
>
> What is the altitude limit for an ion engine?
> Impractical to slowly cross the radiation belt?
>
> Could a 3U cubesat with deployable solar panels power a 1 watt, 100 kHz,
> mode U/V transponder?
>
> I would contribute $1000 to a fund raising campaign for a financially
> and technically viable plan to (for example) launch in 3 years and
> deploy a transponder in "high" orbit 2 years later.
>
> I probably would not contribute to a fund raising campaign for a
> whizbang 3U cubesat destined for a 600 km orbit.
>
> Wayne Estes
> Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 23:26:08 -0400
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
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>>I don't think we'll ever be in a position to "buy" a launch the most we
>>will ever be able to do is hope to piggy-back with a paying customer and
>>possibly contribute to "expenses."
$8,000,000 is our expected contribution to the "expenses". The actual launch
cost is in the hundreds of millions.
>> Maybe having a payload "on the shelf ready" isn't such a bad plan ....
That's what Cubesats offer... ability to launch "off the shelf" satellites
whenever an opportunity comes along, without having to do detailed integration
with the launch vehicle. If only they were not so damn small...
>> there are possibilities however, SpaceX is going to do at least one full
and one
>> semi test flight on the heavy...the semi test flight is for the USAF and
they
>> are carrying ballast...and the final stage has to do a disposal burn.
Even the SpaceX test flights are booked with paying customers. There are no
free rides anymore.
>> This is something I've often wondered about. "Oh hi, commercial rocket
>> company, can we stick our homebrewed rocket into your billion dollar
>> vehicle?"
>>
>> We're supposed to somehow convince someone to let us tack our
>> semitested bomb onto their flight? I doubt they're going to go for
>> it...
ESA and Ariane did accept that offer, three times no less with AO-10, AO-13
and AO-40. Miracles are sometimes possible but they are quite rare.
>>Could a 3U cubesat with deployable solar panels power a 1 watt, 100 kHz,
mode U/V transponder?
Yes, I believe that is possible, with deployable arrays we might even be able
to do ten watts, but such a tiny satellite in such a high orbit will require
big antennas on the ground just to hear it. I can already hear the cries on
amsat-bb about the "elitists" who want to push the little guys out of the
satellite game so they can keep the HEO satellite all to themselves.
Dan Schultz N8FGV
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 04:04:04 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Daniel Schultz <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
Message-ID: <523E6C34.7030004@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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"The actual launch cost is in the hundreds of millions"
Not quite.
I work for a commercial launch provider, and the cost to put a large
satellite (DirecTV or Intelsat) into GTO is $95~$110 million, inclusive.
You ship it to us, and we'll get it into space at the correct injection
point.
Since we're always looking for new revenue streams, I specifically
brought up the possibility of releasing cubesats or "other" secondary
payloads before primary spacecraft separation, or after if better, as I
know we have the capability to support it.
Top management replied (and knowing these guys personally I have no
reason to doubt them) that they looked into it seriously, BUT.....
Since we don't build the "Payload Accommodation" (launch adapter,
satellite support structure, fairing, avionics, ordinance, etc), we're
at the mercy of the contractor who does build it to add in the
capability of multiple satellite deployments, and the cost figure they
came back with made it "economically infeasible to offer a secondary
payload deployment service".
So while you may see launch providers that say they have the capability
to drop off secondary payloads on their way to GTO, once you start
talking "How much?", you'll find the game changes rapidly.
73, Jim KQ6EA
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 00:32:53 -0400
From: Angus McLeod <amcleod@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3
Message-ID: <523E72F5.7090601@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
If I recall,the amateur satellite community were instrumental in
pioneering the 'secondary payload' concept. Pity nobody thought to
patent the idea!
On 09/22/2013 12:04 AM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
> "The actual launch cost is in the hundreds of millions"
>
> Not quite.
>
> I work for a commercial launch provider, and the cost to put a large
> satellite (DirecTV or Intelsat) into GTO is $95~$110 million, inclusive.
>
> You ship it to us, and we'll get it into space at the correct
> injection point.
>
> Since we're always looking for new revenue streams, I specifically
> brought up the possibility of releasing cubesats or "other" secondary
> payloads before primary spacecraft separation, or after if better, as
> I know we have the capability to support it.
>
> Top management replied (and knowing these guys personally I have no
> reason to doubt them) that they looked into it seriously, BUT.....
>
> Since we don't build the "Payload Accommodation" (launch adapter,
> satellite support structure, fairing, avionics, ordinance, etc), we're
> at the mercy of the contractor who does build it to add in the
> capability of multiple satellite deployments, and the cost figure they
> came back with made it "economically infeasible to offer a secondary
> payload deployment service".
>
> So while you may see launch providers that say they have the
> capability to drop off secondary payloads on their way to GTO, once
> you start talking "How much?", you'll find the game changes rapidly.
>
> 73, Jim KQ6EA
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 23:41:13 -0700
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-265
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.
The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.
In this edition:
* 2013 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Election Results Announced
* Final Call for Papers for the 2013 AMSAT Annual Meeting and Space
Symposium
* NASA Internship Opportunities for Spring 2014
* PSK-31 Transponder Needed for Launch Opportunity
* Dutch Amateur Radio Satellite User Day ? September 28, 2013
* AMSAT-DL Satellite Symposium October 5
* AMSAT-SM compares FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and RTL SDR?s
* Australian ham radio BLUEsat satellite in the press
* Canadian ConSat-1 CubeSat
* ISS Ham Video launch campaign
* Amateur Radio in Space: Radio Amateurs Headed to, Return From ISS
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over
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AMSAT News Service Bulletin 265.01
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Septenber 22, 2013
To All RADIO AMATEURS
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2013 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Election Results Announced
As a result of the 2013 Board of Directors Election, Barry Baines, WD4ASW;
Tony Monteiro, AA2TX, Alan Biddle, WA4SCA, and Mark Hammond, N8MH, will
serve
on the board for two years. The first alternate is JoAnne Maenpaa,
K9JKM, and
the second alternate is Steve Coy, K8UD. The results of the voting with 688
ballots cast are as follows;
Barry Baines, WD4ASW 521
Tony Monteiro, AA2TX 518
Alan Biddle. WA4SCA 424
Mark Hammond, N8MH 365
JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JK 316
Steve Coy, K8UD 186
Frank Griffin, K4FEG 158
Bryan Klofas, KF6ZEO 141
[ANS thanks Martha at the AMSAT Office for the above information]
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Final Call for Papers for the 2013 AMSAT Annual Meeting and Space Symposium
This is the final call for papers for the 2013 AMSAT Annual Meeting and
Space
Symposium to be held on the weekend of November 1 - 3, 2013, at the Marriott
Hobby Airport Hotel, Houston, Texas. Proposals for papers, symposium
presentations and poster presentations are invited on any topic of
interest to
the amateur satellite community. We request a tentative title of your
presentation as soon as possible, with final copy to be submitted by
October 5
for inclusion in the printed proceedings. Abstracts and papers should be
sent
to Dan Schultz at n8fgv@xxxxx.xxx
[ANS thanks Dan Schultz, N8FGV, for the above announcement]
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NASA Internship Opportunities for Spring 2014
The NASA One Stop Shopping Initiative, or OSSI, strives to provide
students at all institutions of higher education access to a portfolio
of internship, fellowship and scholarship opportunities offered by
NASA mission directorates and centers.
Visit the Office of Education Infrastructure Division LaunchPad to
find information on internship, fellowship and scholarship
opportunities. The site features the OSSI online application for
recruiting NASA Interns, Fellows and Scholars, or NIFS. This
innovative system allows students to search and apply for all types of
higher-education NASA internship, fellowship and scholarship
opportunities in one location. A single application places the student
in the applicant pool for consideration by all NASA mentors.
Applications for spring 2014 opportunities are due Oct. 11, 2013.
To find available opportunities and to fill out an OSSI online
application for recruiting NIFS, visit https://intern.nasa.gov.
Inquiries about the OSSI should be submitted via
https://intern.nasa.gov/oic/.
[ANS thanks NASA Education Express Message -- Sept. 19, 2013 for the
above information]
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PSK-31 Transponder Needed for Launch Opportunity
On the AMSAT Bulletin Board (AMSAT-BB) Bob Bruninga WB4APR writes:
If someone will build a linear PSK-31 transponder, I have a launch
opportunity
in 9 months.
All it needs to be is a PSK-31 Linear receiver on 28.120 MHz (3 kHz
bandwidth)
with AGC coupled to a downlink UHF FM transmitter of about 1 Watt.
Should fit
on a 3.5? square card. This is the same as Brno University of Technology has
built for prior missions of PCSAT2 on the ISS back in 2006 and the two
on the
shelf awaiting flights.
Flight delivery by May 2014 (9 months from now).
Brno University, may not have the people to make a third one for this new
flight opportunity.
Just a thought for someone looking for a project.
PSK-31 Transponder Concept
http://www.usna.edu/Users/aero/bruninga/psk31uplink.html
[ANS thanks AMSAT-BB, AMSAT-UK, and Bob Bruninga, WB4APR for the above
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Dutch Amateur Radio Satellite User Day ? September 28, 2013
On Saturday, September 28, 2013 the very first Amateur Radio Satellite User
Day will be held.
Location:
The event will take place at restaurant ?Binnenhof?, in the small town of
Paasloo, in the North of the Netherlands, a 90 minute drive by car from
Amsterdam.
Join us!
We invite everyone to come over and join us! For both newbies as well as
experienced satellite operators it will be an exciting day with interesting
presentations as well as exciting activities!
Two Dutch satellite builders will talk about their latest satellites, that
both will be launched in November: FUNcube-1 (Wouter Weggelaar ? PA3WEG) and
Delfi-n3Xt (Jasper Bouwmeester). Both projects will take along with them
engineering models: a great opportunity to see yourself how small and
advanced
Cubesats look like!
Furthermore we have many hands-on sessions planned: take your own radio and
antenna to Paasloo, we can help you get started or you can compare yours to
that of the others!
Of course this is a fantastic opportunity to ?meet and great? each other in
person. The OSCAR lunch has a lot of time reserved for that as well. The
entire
day is free of charge, including coffee and lunch. From those that want
to stay
for the Barbecue at the end of the day we ask a contribution of 17,50 euro.
For those that cannot come over to the Netherlands: meet us during one
of the
on-air hands-on sessions (see the program details below).
Program
10:00 Arrival
Coffee and tea, registration
10:30 ? 10:45 Hands-on session VO-52
Listen to, and maybe even make a QSO via, the strongest linear transponder
currently in space. We do have a low elevation pass, need to check line-of-
sight. 2m/70cm SSB transponder, maximum elevation 11 degrees
10:45 ? 11:00 Welcome
Opening of both the ?VHF-day? and the ?Amateur Radio Satellite User Day?
10:43 ? 11:02 Hands-on session HO-68
Listening to the CW downlink signals of this Chinese satellite. Its linear
transponder is no longer functional, but its beacon is great fun to
experiment
with for reception of amateur radio satellites. Examples include testing and
comparing different types of antennas. 70 cm CW beacon. Maximum
elevation: 49
degrees
11:04 ? 11:24 Hands-on session FO-29
Listening to, and maybe make a QSO via, the linear transponder of this
satellite. A very distant satellite for portable equipment, but with a
little
bit of effort and luck we should be able to hear our own signals back on
downlink. 2m/70cm SSB transponder. Maximum elevation: 73 degrees.
11:30 ? 11:35 Welcome Amateur Radio Satellite User Day
Opening of the very first Amateur Radio Satellite User Day in The
Netherlands.
11:35 ? 12:15 FUNcube-1 ? A new satellite revealed (Wouter Weggelaar ?
PA3WEG)
A presentation by one of the builders, about the technology used in
FUNcube-1,
a project of a series of organizations, including AMSAT-UK. Due to the
delayed
launch (now planned for November) FUNcube-1 is not yet in space during the
event, but very likely Wouter will bring along the functional
engineering-model
of FUNcube-1. A presentation you don?t want to miss!
12:15 ? 13:00 Amateur Radio Satellites step-by-step, for newbies and
experienced operators! (Ivo Klinkert ? PA1IVO and Henk Hamoen ? PA3GUO)
An introduction into orbits of LEO/HEO-satellites and how to predict their
passes. We will also talk about which kind of equipment is needed to
transmit
via amateur radio satellites. So, a talk on TLE, AOS, LOS, TCA, Kepler and
Doppler, RHCP, LHCP, PCs, Antennes, TRX, SDR and Cubesat CW beacons.
While this
session addresses the basics of satellite communications, we invite the more
experienced operators to share their experiences during the presentation as
well. For example which software they use, which satellites are
favorite, which
antennas and rotators are being used? and: which transceivers are most
popular.
13:00 ? 13:45 Hands-on session FUNcube-1 Engineering model
Most likely it will be possible to make in Paasloo QSO?s via the transponder
of the engineering-model of FUNcube-1. A fun exercise or simply a lot of fun
with a satellite of which we really control when it is within reach! 2m/70cm
SSB transponder.
13:00 ? 14:00 OSCAR-lunch
Extended buffet lunch buffet, where the objective is to meet and great your
fellow radio amateurs that share the same interest amateur radio
satellites. At
the same time a demonstration of the famous FUNcube Dongle and equipment
like
Arrow antennas, LVB-tracker, etc.
13:45 ? 14:15 Hands-on session LO-19
Receiving the downlink signals of the satellite. Even though this satellite
has gone through some rough situations up there in space, we can still
hear a
very strong (continues) carrier in the 70cm band. A great opportunity to
observe the Doppler-effect and to experience how large this effect is at
different stages of a pass. Or: compare again the performance of the
different
antennas that will be brought by visitors. 70 cm constant carrier. Maximum
elevation: 59 degrees
14:15 ? 15:00 Delfi-n3Xt (Jasper Bouwmeester ? Program Manager TU/d)
An update on the status of the next Dutch satellite of the University of
Delft
(TU/d), which will be launched in November. Also here a lot of interesting
hardware will be shown, including the engineering model of the S-band
transmitter, the positioning system and the VHF/UHF antennas.
15:00 ? 15:15 Radio Amateurs and scientific satellites (Henk Hamoen ?
PA3GUO)
How radio amateurs can contribute to scientific research in satellite
projects. No QSOs therefore, but rather support of science in space.
15:15 ? 15:35 A portable, multi-functional satellite station (Ivo
Klinkert
? PA1IVO)
A presentation on a portable satellite station for radio communications
using
low earth orbit (LEO) satellites, multi-mode, including S-band reception.
15:35 ? 15:45 How to apply for an ARISS school contact (Bertus H?sken ?
PE1KEH)
How to apply for a school contact with the International Space Station (ISS)
via ARISS.
15:45 ? 16:00 AMSAT-NL (Wouter Weggelaar ? PA3WEG, Chairman AMSAT-NL)
How and why AMSAT-NL was founded.
16:00 ? 16:15 Future of the ?Amateur Radio Satellite User Day? (Ivo ?
PA1IVO en Henk ? PA3GUO)
Evaluation and gathering of ideas for the event next year.
16:15 Closure
BBQ for those that upfront signed up.
18:23 ? 18:35 Hands-on session VO-52
For those that can get enough of it! 2m/70cm SSB transponder. Maximum
elevation: 30 degrees.
Much more information (for example regarding registration) is available on
this website:
http://ivok.home.xs4all.nl/other/SatDay2013.html
See you all in Paasloo!
Ivo Klinkert ? PA1IVO and Henk Hamoen ? PA3GUO
[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK, for the above information]
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AMSAT-DL Satellite Symposium October 5
The AMSAT-DL satellite symposium and AGM will be held in Bochum, Germany on
October 5, 2013.
The AMSAT Deutschland Facebook page says ?There will be certainly some
exciting news!?
AMSAT-DL Symposium lecture schedule
Saturday 05.10.2013
10:15 ? 10:30 Welcome
10:30 ? 11:15 Stereo A / B status and Turbo Code introduction, experience
report by Mario Lorenz, DL5MLO
11:15 ? 11:45 Coffee break
11:45 ? 12:15 Asteroid Defense by Wolfgang Wittholt, Fernuni Hagen
12:15 ? 12:45 Space Generantion Advisory Council (SGAC) Small Satellite
Project Group (SSPG) presentation and objectives by Dennis Mattes
12:45 ? 14:00 Lunch break
14:00 Current and new projects / project progress / etc then an official
part
of the AGM with elections.
AMSAT-DL event announcement
https://www.facebook.com/events/397993230305940/permalink/419259888179274/
[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK, for the above information]
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AMSAT-SM compares FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and RTL SDR?s
AMSAT-SM has published a comparison of the FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and the
RTL TV
dongle based software defined radio.
The FCD Pro+ costs about 10 times the price of the RTL TV Dongle. While the
FCD Pro+ has a far wider frequency coverage enabling reception of LF, MF
and HF
are there any other differences ?
Read the AMSAT-SM comparison in Google English at
http://tinyurl.com/FUNcubeDongle-RTL-Comparison
The FUNcube Dongle (FCD) Software Defined Radio (SDR) was originally
developed
for educational outreach as part of the ground segment for the FUNcube
satellite. A proportion of the sales of the FCD goes to support AMSAT-UK?s
FUNcube satellite.
You can join the FCDProPlus Yahoo Group by following these steps:
? Send a blank email to fcdproplus-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx
? Yahoo will send you an email in response, you may need to check your SPAM
folder
? Click on the link in the email, this will bring up a Yahoo page in your
browser
? On the Yahoo page ignore the big Join link in the middle and click on the
link at the bottom of the page instead, it says: ?As an alternate
option, you
may join the mailing list instead.?
? You should then be a member of the group.
Some of the SDR decoding programs available include:
? SDR Sharp (SDR#) http://sdrsharp.com/
? SDR-Radio http://www.sdr-radio.com/
? HDSDR http://www.hdsdr.de/
FUNcube Dongle Pro+ LF/MF/HF/VHF/UHF Software Defined Radio Video
http://amsat-uk.org/2012/10/03/funcube-dongle-pro-plus-sdr-video/
FUNcube Dongle Pro+ http://www.FUNcubeDongle.com/
RTL TV Dongle SDR http://www.essexham.co.uk/news/realtek-sdr-pc-dongle-for-
under-20-pounds.html
[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK, for the above information]
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Australian ham radio BLUEsat satellite in the press
The Daily Advertiser newspaper reports the University of New South Wales
(UNSW) undergraduate amateur radio satellite project has been given the
tick of
approval to have a stratospheric balloon test flight in Wagga.
The Basic Low Earth Orbit UNSW Experimental Satellite, better known as
BLUEsat, will undergo a test flight in April ahead of its launch into space.
BLUEsat, a 260mm cube weighing around 13 kilograms, will carry a flight
computer with transmissions to include a beacon and amateur packet radio
using
the AX.25 packet radio protocol in a ?mode J? VHF/UHF configuration.
Once in orbit BLUEsat will be a digital amateur radio satellite, which means
that voice and data files can be uploaded to it by any amateur radio
operator
in the world over which the satellite passes.
Read the Daily Advertiser article ? Satellite project to reach new heights
http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/story/1781014/satellite-project-to-reach-new
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heights/
Australia?s own BLUEsat ready for launch
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/09/13/australias-bluesat-ready-for-launch/
BLUEsat on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/bluesat.unsw
Basic Low Earth Orbit UNSW Experimental Satellite (BLUEsat) project
http://www.bluesat.unsw.edu.au/
[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK, for the above information]
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Canadian ConSat-1 CubeSat
The Canadian ConSat-1 3U CubeSat aims to analyze radiation
characteristics in
the South-Atlantic Anomaly, and test technology payloads.
Canada is an Associate Member of the European Space Agency (ESA) and
ConSat-1
is one of the educational CubeSats chosen for Phase 1 of the ?Fly Your
Satellite!? initiative.
The ?Fly Your Satellite!? initiative builds on the success of the ?CubeSats
for the Vega Maiden Flight? pilot program. This culminated in 2012 with the
launch of seven student-built CubeSats on the first flight of the new
ESA Vega
launcher.
The South-Atlantic Anomaly is a plasma cloud 200 km from the Earth?s
surface,
located above the east coast of South America. It appears to be constantly
growing in size and a NASA report speculates that by 2240 it might cover
approximately half the southern hemisphere.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20000085550_2000122978.pd
f
ConSat-1 plans to look at various aspects of the plasma cloud: its
temperature, its atomic and molecular composition, its density, and its
volume.
The team hope to produce meaningful data which shows the ever-changing
characteristics of this extra-spatial hazard.
ESA announce six CubeSats chosen for Phase 1
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/06/26/esa-announce-six-cubesats/
ESA ?Fly Your Satellite? Initiative
http://www.esa.int/Education/Call_for_Proposals_Fly_Your_Satellite
Wiki ? South-Atlantic Anomaly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly
[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK, for the above information]
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ISS Ham Video launch campaign
The ARISS DATV transmitter, dubbed ?Ham Video?, already onboard the
International Space Station, will soon be installed in the Columbus
module and
commissioned.
Commissioning will be done in several steps, each during a full pass of the
ISS over the Matera ground station (see Bulletin 2). It is not yet known if
these passes will be chosen in close succession, or if they will cover
several
weeks. ARISS proposes ESA to operate so called ?blank? transmissions
during the
commissioning period. If this is accepted, it means that Ham Video will
transmit permanently without camera. The camera will not be used because
it is
fed on batteries and servicing it would need prohibitive crew time.
Transmitting recordings is part of a future project, but not available
presently.
Although ground stations will receive a black image without audio, ?blank?
transmissions contain all information needed for the setting up and the fine
tuning of the station. Moreover, collected data will be used for a
performance
study of the ARISS L/S-band antennas as well as for an evaluation of the
global
system.
For this launch campaign, ARISS addresses a call for collaboration to the
amateur radio community, especially to the operators interested in space
communications. Several satellite operators have shown interest.
Ham Video technical characteristics are available at www.ariss-eu.org .
Suggestions and useful addresses for the setting up of a Ham Video ground
station are also provided.
Among the components of a satellite ground station, the antenna system
is the
most expensive. High gain antennas are needed, moved by azimuth and
elevation
motors and driven by an appropriate computer program. For Ham Video
reception,
a 1.2m dish with precision tracking is recommended. A station compliant with
the recommendations provided in the aforementioned reference text should be
capable of 3 to 4 minutes of DATV reception during a pass of the ISS. AO-40
operators who still have an S-band dish can now use it for Ham Video.
On the other hand, interesting data can be gathered by stations with a much
simpler setup. A dish with a self made helix feed could be used without
motors.
This antenna could be positioned in a fixed direction, determined before
a pass
of the ISS, pointing to the position of the ISS at closest approach, which
corresponds to the maximum elevation of the space station during the
pass. With
the setup as described hereunder, 1 to 2 minutes of solid reception of
the Ham
Video signal should be possible.
Call for participation to the Ham Video launch campaign
ARISS addresses a call to amateur radio experimenters who would like to
participate to the Ham Video launch campaign.
Data gathering during the initial ?blank? transmissions is important and the
help of volunteering operators will be most appreciated.
More details to follow.
It is to be noted that builders of the hereunder proposed ?Simple Station?
could later update their equipment and add tracking motors. Chained stations
will be needed for ARISS Ham TV school contacts. Video and audio from
the ISS
will be web streamed to the schools over the Internet.
We will keep you informed of these developments. For the time being, as a
starter, let us concentrate on receiving ?blank? transmissions.
All Ham TV Bulletins are available at www.ariss-eu.org
[ANS thanks Gaston Bertels, ON4WF, and AMSAT-UK, for the above information]
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Amateur Radio in Space: Radio Amateurs Headed to, Return From ISS
NASA astronaut Mike Hopkins, KF5LJG, and Russian cosmonauts Oleg Kotov and
Sergey Ryzanskiy are scheduled to launch aboard a Soyuz spacecraft
September 25
to join their Expedition 37 crewmates aboard the International Space
Station.
Hopkins will be the first member of the 2009 NASA astronaut class to fly
into
space. While he's aboard the ISS, Hopkins will install the Amateur Radio
on the
International Space Station (ARISS) Ham Video gear, although that is
considered
a low-priority assignment.
Hopkins will join Expedition 37 Commander Fyodor Yurchikhin, RN3FI, and
Flight
Engineers Karen Nyberg, and Luca Parmitano, KF5KDP. Yurchikhin, Nyberg, and
Parmitano arrived in May and will return to Earth in November.
Meanwhile, US Astronaut Chris Cassidy, KF5KDR, and Russian Cosmonaut and
Expedition 36 Commander Pavel Vinogradov, RV3BS, came safely back to
Earth from
the ISS September 11 aboard a Soyuz capsule. Cosmonaut and Flight Engineer
Alexander Misurkin rounded out the trio that landed in Kazakhstan after 166
days in space.
A day earlier, Vinogradov handed over command of the ISS to another radio
amateur, Cosmonaut and Flight Engineer Fyodor Yurchikhin, RN3FI, in a
traditional change-of-command ceremony in the Zvezda service module.
[ANS thanks the September 19, 2013 ARRL Letter for the above link]
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ARISS News
An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
participants at Sarnelli De Donato Middle School, Polignano a Mare,
Bari, Italy
on 21 Sept. The event is scheduled to begin at approximately 10:03 UTC. The
duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The
contact
will be a telebridge between NA1SS and W6SRJ. The contact should be audible
over the west coast and adjacent areas of the U.S. Interested parties are
invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected
to be
conducted in Italian.
"Sarnelli De Donato" School is a middle school. It serves the educational
needs of the town because it is the only middle school in town. It
caters for
boys and girls, aged 11-14. Located in one of the region's tourist
areas, it is
in the suburbs of the pleasant town of Polignano a Mare, in the
south-east of
the APULIA region, south-east of Italy. In its Curriculum the school
focus on:
Space Communication, Media Communication, the Environment, Science
activities
in lab. The school has a gym, an auditorium, a music room, two computer
rooms,
a new scientific laboratory, a video room, 22 classrooms. At present
there are
526 students on roll and they attend the regular class daily, from 8.00
am to
1.00 pm.
Participants will ask as many of the following questions (translated) as
time
allows:
1. What sensation do you standing there in the void thinking that
everything
around is infinite?
2. How do they appear from the space station celestial bodies: sun,
planets,
moon, stars?
3. The astronauts on the Space Station as they do not understand if it is
night or day on Earth?
4. A drop of water that is lost in the air is dangerous for the electronic
equipment on board?
5. What are the immediate benefits for humanity arising from the
results of
the experiments of your space missions?
6. The Risk factor aboard the Space Station can change by virtue of the
activities that you carry?
7. In a simple way how can be explained the force that keeps the ISS in
orbit?
8. The infinity of space that surrounds you bring you closer to the
image of
a "Creator God"?
9. The extraordinary figure of astrophysics Margherita Hack has influenced
your training program as an astronaut?
10. How do you live the danger that a meteorite will collide with the
International Space Station?
11. Assuming the distant future of man in space, the absence of gravity
will
evolve as the appearance of man?
12. What factors determine the residence time of 6 months on the Space
Station?
13. Assuming that the trajectory of a meteor crosses the Earth's orbit,
what
contribution can the Space Station for safety on Earth?
14. From space failed to observe atmospheric phenomena and to provide those
disasters such as tornadoes or tsunamis?
15. If the man in the distant future "inhabit" the space as it will change
your perception of spatial and temporal distances?
16. This mission how is for you example of an expression of brotherhood and
cooperation among people of different countries?
17. An 'possible for you direct contact with the family over the internet?
18. How much you exercise in Star City before you leave?
19. What specific astronomical events you witnessed during your stay on the
ISS?
20. Will it be possible in the future for a person who is not an astronaut
traveling to visit and remain on the ISS?
PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:
Sign up for the SAREX maillist at
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex
Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the
International Space Station (ARISS).
To receive our Twitter updates, follow @xxxxxxxxxxxx
Next planned event(s):
1. Scuola Media Statale "Salvo D'Acquisto", Cesano Maderno, Italy,
telebridge via VK5ZAI, Tue, 24Sept2013, 10:18 UTC
Watch for possible last minute cancellation.
2. College de la Combraille, La Mouniaude Chatelguyon, France,
telebridge via VK5ZAI, Sat, 28Sept2013, 08:39 UTC
ARISS is an international educational outreach program partnering the
participating space agencies, NASA, Russian Space Agency, ESA, CNES,
JAXA, and
CSA, with the AMSAT and IARU organizations from participating countries.
ARISS offers an opportunity for students to experience the excitement of
Amateur Radio by talking directly with crewmembers on-board the
International
Space Station. Teachers, parents and communities see, first hand, how
Amateur
Radio and crewmembers on ISS can energize youngsters' interest in science,
technology, and learning. Further information on the ARISS program is
available
on the website http://www.ariss.org/ (graciously hosted by the Radio
Amateurs
of Canada).
[ANS thanks David, AA4KN for the above information]
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Satellite Shorts From All Over
NASA/AMSAT Mentors Still Making News
Pat Kilroy N8PK, the group?s mentor, is an AMSAT area coordinator for
Maryland/Washington DC. See:
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/september2013/nasa_interns_start_work_on
_future_cubesat_mission.htm#.UjmW6X9Osw8
Or
http://phys.org/news/2013-09-nasa-interns-future-cubesat-mission.html
[ANS thanks Southgate ARC, for the above information]
Space Weather's Effects on Satellites
MIT Study of interest to the satellite community:
http://web.mit.edu/press/2013/space-weather-effects-on-satellites.html
[ANS thanks Les Rayburn, N1LF, and Spacedaily.com for the above information]
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In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.
Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.
73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Joe Spier, K6WAO
k6wao at amsat dot org
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