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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: so long (n0jy)
   2. Re: so long (Iain Young, G7III)
   3. Re: so long (Yanko Yankov)
   4. Re: so long (Personal)
   5. Re: so long (Patrick Green)
   6. Re: so long (Bob- W7LRD)
   7. Re: so long (Adrian Engele)
   8. Re: so long (i8cvs)
   9. Re: so long (Stefan Wagener)
  10. Re: so long (Gus)
  11. Re: so long (John Spasojevich)
  12. Re: so long (Greg D)
  13. Re: Space Weather Affect on Satellites (MLengruesser@xxx.xxxx
  14. Re: so long,  try EME (MM)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:19:36 -0500
From: n0jy <n0jy@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID: <5238AB48.8050507@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Dang.  Now what are we going to do?

On 9/17/2013 1:58 PM, John Becker wrote:
> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM
> only satellite
> attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other
> joining AMSAT
> in the first place.
>
> Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
>
> John
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:45:52 +0100
From: "Iain Young, G7III" <g7iii@xxxxx.xxx>
To: n0jy <n0jy@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID: <5238B170.6050409@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 17/09/13 20:19, n0jy wrote:

> Dang.  Now what are we going to do?

Eat the fish left behind ? :)


73s

Iain



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:46:45 -0500
From: Yanko Yankov <samy_b1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: n0jy <n0jy@xxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID: <6902cb30-2291-4cfa-a0b3-1b9f6b7f7971@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I'll tell you what I will do. I'll make me a cup of coffee.

Yanko,NX9G

n0jy <n0jy@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>Dang.  Now what are we going to do?
>
>On 9/17/2013 1:58 PM, John Becker wrote:
>> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM
>> only satellite
>> attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other
>> joining AMSAT
>> in the first place.
>>
>> Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
>>
>> John
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
>author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
>author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:12:00 -0500
From: Personal <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID: <45B86821-7D94-4AFB-A36E-DCF926BABA56@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

How will we call you when the ice forms over hell or how do we send a signal
6 feet underground?

If you want an AO 40 bird so bad, then make a couple million dollars or win
the lottery and send it to AMSAT or find a way to help the Germans launch
P3D...it's been sitting around.

Nah...bitching and quitting...that's the way to get it done..thanks for the
example.

John AG9D

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:58 PM, John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only
satellite
> attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining
AMSAT
> in the first place.
>
> Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
>
> John
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:14:01 -0400
From: Patrick Green <pagreen@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID:
<CAAhWhXTv22esZdOZf160MAtj=o4TGwELOt2BpKMHH5zoYM36hw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Isn't this the reason why hams end up on HF?  Any mode that requires
infrastructure to operate is going to be this way.  I'm sure you've
experienced this on repeaters if you used them.  Perhaps we need a
kickstarter for the launch of P3E.

73


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM, John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only
> satellite
> attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining
> AMSAT
> in the first place.
>
> Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
>
> John
> ______________________________**_________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings:
http://amsat.org/mailman/**listinfo/amsat-bb<http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo
/amsat-bb>
>



--
Best regards,

Patrick Green


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:25:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Personal <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID:
<589413027.1807382.1379449548845.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
xxx.xxx>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

the difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes a little longer!
73 Bob W7LRD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Personal" <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "John Becker" <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:12:00 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long

How will we call you when the ice forms over hell or how do we send a signal
6 feet underground?

If you want an AO 40 bird so bad, then make a couple million dollars or win
the lottery and send it to AMSAT or find a way to help the Germans launch
P3D...it's been sitting around.

Nah...bitching and quitting...that's the way to get it done..thanks for the
example.

John AG9D

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:58 PM, John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only
satellite
> attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining
AMSAT
> in the first place.
>
> Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
>
> John
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:53:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adrian Engele <aa5uk@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Patrick Green <pagreen@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID:
<1379451181.79114.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Like this Kickstarter project which was underfunded :
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597141632/cat-a-thruster-for-interplanetar
y-cubesats

We hope.

73, Adrian AA5UK





>________________________________
> From: Patrick Green <pagreen@xxxxx.xxx>
>To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:14 PM
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
>
>
>Isn't this the reason why hams end up on HF?? Any mode that requires
>infrastructure to operate is going to be this way.? I'm sure you've
>experienced this on repeaters if you used them.? Perhaps we need a
>kickstarter for the launch of P3E.
>
>73
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM, John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM only
>> satellite
>> attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other joining
>> AMSAT
>> in the first place.
>>
>> Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
>>
>> John
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings:
http://amsat.org/mailman/**listinfo/amsat-bb<http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo
/amsat-bb>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Best regards,
>
>Patrick Green
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>

------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:02:52 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "John Becker" <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	"Martha" <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID: <000a01ceb3fa$0cb44620$0401a8c0@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Becker" <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:58 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] so long

> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM
> only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as
> well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
>
> Please informy membership after AO40 died because AMSAT changed
his policy with only FM satellites.

I remember that OSCAR-10,OSCAR13 and AO40 where called
"the satellites for all" and I invested a lot of money for equipments
and antennas dedicated for HEO satellites for nothing in the near
future.

In my opinion the satellite operation is not only an activity to collect
grids but it is mostly experimentation in the VHF/UHF/SHF and
particularly into microwave as it was with AO40 Mode-S/K and
it was very nice until lasted.

As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL
to built a new HEO satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all
my old duties to cover my previous not covered years of
membership.

By the way I am not against  AMSAT-NA because I understand
the ITAR and during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write
many technical articles for the AMSAT Journal without any
money reward.

If Martha says that the actual AMSAT members are in the order
of 3,000. and if Les Rayburn, N1LF claim to be member of
AMSAT #38965 it means that in the last 10 years many
members abandoned AMSAT because of no future with no
HEO satellites and only the FM LEO cubesat for no two
ways communications between continents was not a
satisfactory task.

Many years ago early in 1972 I joined AMSAT because they
promised us to communicate worlwide much better than using
the HF but things changed and our antennas are becaming
rusty over the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !

73" de i8CVS Domenico




------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:27:37 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, John Becker
<w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHDSxQNmagn=V4FFNvXJu6060Bd1-u5VX1EmubRPcq6BDw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Domenico,

I am not sure if I understand your post:

"As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL to built a new HEO
satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all my old duties to cover my
previous not covered years of membership."

As a matter of fact we don't need a new HEO, we have one or more accurate
AMSAT-DL has one. It is called Phase 3E! What we need is $10million+ to fly
it.

"during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write many technical articles
for the AMSAT Journal without any money reward."

Well, many folks volunteer and work hard and no, we actually pay to
volunteer and help and no, we don't expect to get paid!

So, how about you help AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-DL and AMSAT-IT in their efforts to
find a potential source of money to make that satellite fly.

To quote Clayton (W5PFG) from an earlier post:

"Some of the loudest whining voices are from the non-voting community.
I've observed this behavior in civic organizations, technical societies,
fraternities, etc. Usually these are the same people who gripe about how an
organization spends its money though the complainer never donates a dime."

Rest my case,

Stefan VE4NSA




On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:02 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Becker" <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:58 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] so long
>
> > I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM
> > only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as
> > well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
> >
> > Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40
> >  happens.
> >
> > John
> >
> Hi John,W0JAB
>
> I was AMSAT member numbar 798 since OSCAR-6 but I decided
> to live my membership after AO40 died because AMSAT changed
> his policy with only FM satellites.
>
> I remember that OSCAR-10,OSCAR13 and AO40 where called
> "the satellites for all" and I invested a lot of money for equipments
> and antennas dedicated for HEO satellites for nothing in the near
> future.
>
> In my opinion the satellite operation is not only an activity to collect
> grids the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !
>
> 73" de i8CVS Domenico
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:17:47 -0400
From: Gus <amcleod@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID: <5238AADB.6090201@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

John,

1) I too pine for the HEO birds.

2) I have little interest in single-channel FM-only satellites

But!

1) LEO birds are better than no birds at all.  The early OSCARS were all
LEO and without the learning curve they provided, we would probably
never have launched AO-10 and AO-13.  The challenges nowadays may be
different (financial rather than technological) but in time we will
hopefully overcome them.

2) From what I gather simply by reading this list, the majority of
transponders flying are linear (NOT single-channel FM) and the same is
true for the majority of transponders in the pipe.

I respect your decision to drop out of the list and wish you well.

Regards...

--
73, de Gus 8P6SM
Barbados, the easternmost isle.



On 09/17/2013 02:58 PM, John Becker wrote:
> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM
> only satellite
> attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other
> joining AMSAT
> in the first place.
>
> Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.
>
> John
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>




------------------------------

Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 21:23:59 -0500
From: John Spasojevich <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, John Becker
<w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID:
<CA+qbou4F6hDXcCpJ61zO4m2XwXdKQoZ3WS0JnAVFzSbPrVvycA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Stefan, I second the comments .

I brace myself every time I go to a hamfest to represent AMSAT.  I would
say I spend 75% of my time getting told that we are a bunch of morons and
how the person complaining used to be a member but will never join again
because we don't have a HEO bird. I spend time, polite."
>
> As a matter of fact we don't need a new HEO, we have one or more accurate
> AMSAT-DL has one. It is called Phase 3E! What we need is $10million+ to fly
> it.
>
> "during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write many technical articles
> for the AMSAT Journal without any money reward."
>
> Well, many folks volunteer and work hard and no, we actually pay to
> volunteer and help and no, we don't expect to get paid!
>
> So, how about you help AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-DL and AMSAT-IT in their efforts to
> find a potential source of money to make that satellite fly.
>
> To quote Clayton (W5PFG) from an earlier post:
>
> "Some of the loudest whining voices are from the non-voting community.
> I've observed this behavior in civic organizations, technical societies,
> fraternities, etc. Usually these are the same people who gripe about how an
> organization spends its money though the complainer never donates a dime."
>
> Rest my case,
>
> Stefan VE4NSA
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:02 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Becker" <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> > To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:58 PM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] so long
> >
> > > I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM
> > > only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as
> > > well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
> > >
> > > Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40
> > >  happens.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > Hi John,W0JAB
> >
> > I was AMSAT member numbar 798 since OSCAR-6 but I decided
> > to live my membership after AO40 died because AMSAT changed
> > his policy with only FM satellites.
> >
> > I remember that OSCAR-10,OSCAR13 and AO40 where called
> > "the satellites for all" and I invested a lot of money for equipments
> > and antennas dedicated for HEO satellites for nothing in the near
> > future.
> >
> > In my opinion the satellite operation is not only an activity to collect
> > grids but it is mostly experimentation in the VHF/UHF/SHF and
> > particularly into microwave as it was with AO40 Mode-S/K and
> > it was very nice until lasted.
> >
> > As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL
> > to built a new HEO satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all
> > my old duties to cover my previous not covered years of
> > membership.
> >
> > By the way I am not against  AMSAT-NA because I understand
> > the ITAR and during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write
> > many technical articles for the AMSAT Journal without any
> > money reward.
> >
> > If Martha says that the actual AMSAT members are in the order
> > of 3,000. and if Les Rayburn, N1LF claim to be member of
> > AMSAT #38965 it means that in the last 10 years many
> > members abandoned AMSAT because of no future with no
> > HEO satellites and only the FM LEO cubesat for no two
> > ways communications between continents was not a
> > satisfactory task.
> >
> > Many years ago early in 1972 I joined AMSAT because they
> > promised us to communicate worlwide much better than using
> > the HF but things changed and our antennas are becaming
> > rusty over the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !
> >
> > 73" de i8CVS Domenico
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 12
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 21:00:34 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
Message-ID: <52392562.5050007@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

I made my first satellite contact in 1993, a year after I was first
licensed. That first contact was due to a lot of elmering by Walt,
KA6VNU, and the skill of Mel, KW7E, on the other end of the contact.
Since then I have made countless contacts on my own, elmered others
through their first contacts, and learned something from each and every
one. New puzzles were answered by the many generous and knowledgeable
participants in this bulletin board, including you. I've had an
incredible experience, and it's not over yet.

I hardly call that "nothing".

Greg KO6TH


i8cvs wrote:
> Many years ago early in 1972 I joined AMSAT because they
> promised us to communicate worlwide much better than using
> the HF but things changed and our antennas are becaming
> rusty over the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !


------------------------------

Message: 13
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:43:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: MLengruesser@xxx.xxx
To: les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Space Weather Affect on Satellites
Message-ID: <25af8.1712edd.3f6af9d6@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"



Hi Les,.


I know this and I think we do a good job of 365/7/24 with our antenna in
Bochum.
We receive and deliver realtime raw data to NASA / NOAA for the Stereo A /
B project
Look on the following webpages
http://amsat-dl.org/index.php/news-mainmenu-97/194-stereo-turbo-amsateng
http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beacon/beacon_coverage.shtml
http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/
http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/index.shtml

vy  73,

 Michael R. Lengruesser,  DD5ER





AMSAT-DL e.V.
-- International Satellites for  Communication,
Science and Education --
mlengruesser@xxxxxxxx.xxx
http://www.amsat-dl.org



In einer eMail vom 18.09.2013 01:12:03 Westeurop?ische Sommerzeit schreibt
les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx

MIT  Study of interest to the satellite  community:
http://web.mit.edu/press/2013/space-weather-effects-on-satellites.html


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73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL  35114
EM63nf

6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits  #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life  Member
Six Club #2484

Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz &  Light

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 06:33:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: MM <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long,  try EME
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EME is a
good replacement (JT65)
?
There are no
borders.
There is no
politics (no one owns the Moon).
There are no
Satellite managers to control which mode is enabled or disabled.
No person
can hog the whole repeater.
The Moon is
usable 2+ weeks contiguous per month.
In most countries
you can run your countries legal limit.
It?s much
further away and thus a greater challenge.
You do not
need to join a club.
?
And the list
goes on.



________________________________
 From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] so long


I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM
only satellite
attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as well as other
joining AMSAT
in the first place.

Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40 happens.

John
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