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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Winterization project (Bob- W7LRD)
2. Re: So50 (Michael)
3. Re: Winterization project (Jim Jerzycke)
4. Re: Squirrel Repellant (Clint Bradford)
5. Another successful CubeSat Kickstarter (M5AKA)
6. Re: Winterization project (Alan)
7. Re: Winterization project (Roger Kolakowski)
8. Re: Winterization project (Jim Jerzycke)
9. Re: So50 (John - VE7JZ)
10. Re: So50 (Bob- W7LRD)
11. Re: So50 (Greg)
12. Re: So50 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
13. Re: So50 (Kevin M)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 02:47:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
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almost all .22lr are unavailable, they're still hoarding them.
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 6:41:06 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
I was thinking Aguila Super Colibris, 20 grains of .22LR low noise,
anti-squirrel CIWS.
73, Drew KO4MA
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Griffin <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Sep 1, 2013 8:41 PM
>To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
>
>A 12 gauge full choke shotgun ?
>
>
>
>73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
>Behalf Of Greg D
>Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 6:52 PM
>To: Amsat BB
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Winterization project
>
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>
>
>As I reported on the 20m Amsat Net (14.282mhz Sundays 18:00z - 19:00z) this
>morning, I noticed that my 2m antenna was listing slightly down-hill.
>Suspecting that the boom attachment screws had come loose, my project for
>the day was to go up on the roof and align and tighten them.
>
>
>
>The screws were a little loose.
>
>
>
>That's not why the antenna was drooping down.
>
>
>
>I discovered the real reason: Acorns.
>
>
>
>Apparently the local squirrels have been preparing for winter, such as it is
>around here, and had stuffed about a dozen plump acorns into the open end of
>the antenna boom. Besides their weight climbing out to the end, there was
>also the remaining weight of the acorns.
>
>
>
>So, the antenna ends have been taped over, but that's not going to prevent
>the squirrels from climbing out onto the antenna.
>
>
>
>Any suggestions on an effective squirrel deterrent?
>
>
>
>Greg KO6TH
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:14:58 -0400
From: Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
Message-ID: <522410C2.8090302@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Not really active right now so I haven't heard what's going on with
SO-50 but I can well imagine. I would guess the main problem is what it
most often always is on the FM birds. A lot of hams like to try and
"sell" sat ops by telling folks that all they need is a dual band
handheld and an Arrow antenna. The problem is that there are very few
if any full duplex capable dual band handhelds available right now and
less and less full duplex mobile rigs. If you don't have the
capability to be able to hear your own signal, you have no business even
being on a sat, much less an FM one. Full duplex capability is the only
proper way to operate satellites, especially an FM one, and how we ever
got away from that line of thinking is a mystery to me. Gosh knows,
handheld radios are really cheap these days, we may not be able to buy
full duplex ones but it's not that big a deal to buy two. Just my 2 cents.
Michael, W4HIJ
On 9/1/2013 7:58 PM, Rick Walter wrote:
> Well said Wyatt. SO-50 sounds more like the Wild West the last few months.
Unfortunately, the people that need to read this probably do not subscribe
to the list.
>
> I do not consider myself a "perfect operator" but I try to be.
>
> ARRL should address this matter in QST. I seem to remember someone
suggested this to them and where ignored.
>
> Ham radio's motto was always listen before you transmit. It sounds like
many people missed it. I hear your #2 every time I'm on that bird.
>
> Thank you Wyatt.
>
> Rick -WB3CSY
> Sent from Rick's iPad2
>
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 7:09 PM, wyattdirks <wyattdirks@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Today and quite a bit lately it seems So50 is becoming out of control. A
few thing to consider when working So50 and the other birds.
>>
>> 1. Don't transmit if can't hear. Really so50 should sound like your local
repeater its its not then you need a better rx antenna or maybe a preamp.
>>
>> 2. If you hear someone talking let them finish the qso before you call
someone. Also if someone calls somebody don't call the same person before
they even have the chance to answer the first guy.
>>
>> 3. Don't call people blindly if your interupting a qso. And don't
continue to call the same person over and over if they aren't responding.
Let people that are actually hearing the satellite make contacts.
>>
>> 4. Do work full duplex. If you can't hear when your transmitting you're
likely cuasing interference.
>>
>> 5. Do enjoy so50 as it is the only fm satellite right now.
>>
>> 73
>> Wyatt
>> AC0RA
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 04:30:27 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
Message-ID: <52241463.7050403@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Who is "they"??
On 09/02/2013 02:47 AM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
> almost all .22lr are unavailable, they're still hoarding them.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 6:41:06 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
>
>
> I was thinking Aguila Super Colibris, 20 grains of .22LR low noise,
anti-squirrel CIWS.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff Griffin <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Sep 1, 2013 8:41 PM
>> To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
>>
>> A 12 gauge full choke shotgun ?
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Jeff kb2m
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
>> Behalf Of Greg D
>> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 6:52 PM
>> To: Amsat BB
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Winterization project
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> As I reported on the 20m Amsat Net (14.282mhz Sundays 18:00z - 19:00z) this
>> morning, I noticed that my 2m antenna was listing slightly down-hill.
>> Suspecting that the boom attachment screws had come loose, my project for
>> the day was to go up on the roof and align and tighten them.
>>
>>
>>
>> The screws were a little loose.
>>
>>
>>
>> That's not why the antenna was drooping down.
>>
>>
>>
>> I discovered the real reason: Acorns.
>>
>>
>>
>> Apparently the local squirrels have been preparing for winter, such as it
is
>> around here, and had stuffed about a dozen plump acorns into the open end
of
>> the antenna boom. Besides their weight climbing out to the end, there was
>> also the remaining weight of the acorns.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, the antenna ends have been taped over, but that's not going to prevent
>> the squirrels from climbing out onto the antenna.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions on an effective squirrel deterrent?
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg KO6TH
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 23:21:21 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Squirrel Repellant
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Go to your local nursery. They will have solutions (there's a pun there) -
including
urine of other animals (usually LARGER animals (grin)) or placing a ring of
"barbed"
wire on the mast - making it un-climb-able.
Clint K6LCS
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:15:17 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Another successful CubeSat Kickstarter
Message-ID:
<1378116917.5019.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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The LunarSail project has completed a successful Kickstarter.
As yet the project has no launch but hopes to be able to get a free one from
NASA. They appear to be planning to use a Raspberry Pi computer board, see
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/09/02/successful-kickstarter-for-raspberry-pi-lunarsa
il-cubesat/
----
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:37:23 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Greg D'" <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>, "'Amsat BB'"
<AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: CC <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
Message-ID: <D4C0BA648B0A4C11A65C168293AEDF70@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Greg,
Two years ago, I had about $1k worth of damage done to my car fuel system by
squirrels chewing on the
tubing around the gas tank. There is something in modern plastics, including
wire insulation,
squirrels and other rodents like to chew on. Insurance covered most of it,
but I wanted to find a
solution cheaper than converting my carport to a full garage. After some
thought, I decided to try an
ultrasonic pest repeller.
Now the squirrels won't come near the carport. When I installed it, I ran
the power temporarily into
the house, and waited for one to come around. When I quietly turned the
power on, the squirrel took
off as if I had slammed the door! I use a Transonic Pro
http://preview.tinyurl.com/k9jjavc but there
are many similar units. Of course there is the problem of placement and
water proofing, but it may be
worth the effort.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Greg D
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 5:52 PM
To: Amsat BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Winterization project
Hi all,
As I reported on the 20m Amsat Net (14.282mhz Sundays 18:00z - 19:00z)
this morning, I noticed that my 2m antenna was listing slightly
down-hill. Suspecting that the boom attachment screws had come loose,
my project for the day was to go up on the roof and align and tighten them.
The screws were a little loose.
That's not why the antenna was drooping down.
I discovered the real reason: Acorns.
Apparently the local squirrels have been preparing for winter, such as
it is around here, and had stuffed about a dozen plump acorns into the
open end of the antenna boom. Besides their weight climbing out to the
end, there was also the remaining weight of the acorns.
So, the antenna ends have been taped over, but that's not going to
prevent the squirrels from climbing out onto the antenna.
Any suggestions on an effective squirrel deterrent?
Greg KO6TH
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 12:17:44 -0400
From: Roger Kolakowski <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
To: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
Message-ID: <5224BA28.6010700@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
The Preppers for the Zombie Apocalypse...you can't find or afford
primers or powder anymore either!
Roger
WA1KAT
On 9/2/2013 12:30 AM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
> Who is "they"??
>
>
> On 09/02/2013 02:47 AM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>> almost all .22lr are unavailable, they're still hoarding them.
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> To: "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
>> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 6:41:06 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
>>
>>
>> I was thinking Aguila Super Colibris, 20 grains of .22LR low noise,
>> anti-squirrel CIWS.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 17:22:57 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Roger Kolakowski <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
Message-ID: <5224C971.1030603@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I've had NO difficulty getting primers, powder, bullets, and brass.
Yes, you'll pay more than a few years ago, but the pipeline for supplies
is almost back to normal, you just have to search, and be ready to buy
when you find a supplier who has what you want.
Jim
On 09/02/2013 04:17 PM, Roger Kolakowski wrote:
> The Preppers for the Zombie Apocalypse...you can't find or afford
> primers or powder anymore either!
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
> On 9/2/2013 12:30 AM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>> Who is "they"??
>>
>>
>> On 09/02/2013 02:47 AM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>>> almost all .22lr are unavailable, they're still hoarding them.
>>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>>> To: "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 6:41:06 PM
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Winterization project
>>>
>>>
>>> I was thinking Aguila Super Colibris, 20 grains of .22LR low noise,
>>> anti-squirrel CIWS.
>>>
>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:19:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: John - VE7JZ <ve7jz@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxxx <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
My daughter, who is a new ham has just given up on trying SO-50. 5 times now
she has set up the station to work someone and the moment she unkeys, there
is someone calling and not listening. We here, have a TS-2000 with az-el
setup and 2 yagis with auto tracking. I totally agree with the comments here
on this subject of wild west operations on SO-50. It is out of control.
Here on the wet coast there is a WA6 ( wont say his call here ) every day
that is constantly either ruining qso's or using way too much power and
wiping out transponders completely. And if you call this LID, he either
cannot hear you or ignores you and continues his ignorant disregard for
other users so HE can get HIS contacts and to heck with anyone else. A
constant and rather rude transponder HOG that is on almost every pass of
every voice satellite. So as of today, we (my daughter and I) will go back
to weak signal work and drop off satellite use until these LIDS either
disappear or
something. Our 2 cents worth. Everyone have a great day wherever you might
be. 73.<br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 17:39:41 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: ve7jz@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
Message-ID:
<546165610.1509068.1378143581880.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi John...the LIDS will never disappear..there are many more waiting in the
wings...the best we can do is to "politely" educate the alleged offenders,
usually via email.
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "John - VE7JZ" <ve7jz@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mat 62" <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 8:19:59 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
My daughter, who is a new ham has just given up on trying SO-50. 5 times now
she has set up the station to work someone and the moment she unkeys, there
is someone calling and not listening. We here, have a TS-2000 with az-el
setup and 2 yagis with auto tracking. I totally agree with the comments here
on this subject of wild west operations on SO-50. It is out of control. Here
on the wet coast there is a WA6 ( wont say his call here ) every day that is
constantly either ruining qso's or using way too much power and wiping out
transponders completely. And if you call this LID, he either cannot hear you
or ignores you and continues his ignorant disregard for other users so HE
can get HIS contacts and to heck with anyone else. A constant and rather
rude transponder HOG that is on almost every pass of every voice satellite.
So as of today, we (my daughter and I) will go back to weak signal work and
drop off satellite use until these LIDS either disappear or
something. Our 2 cents worth. Everyone have a great day wherever you might
be. 73.<br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 13:49:22 -0400
From: Greg <almetco@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
Message-ID: <76EDFEFE-1118-47F6-9C87-480B48F05692@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
We hear the same thing on the east coast. The same guys believe it is a net
for them pass after pass.
Greg
N3MVF
On Sep 2, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi John...the LIDS will never disappear..there are many more waiting in
the wings...the best we can do is to "politely" educate the alleged
offenders, usually via email.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John - VE7JZ" <ve7jz@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "Mat 62" <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 8:19:59 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
>
> My daughter, who is a new ham has just given up on trying SO-50. 5 times
now she has set up the station to work someone and the moment she unkeys,
there is someone calling and not listening. We here, have a TS-2000 with
az-el setup and 2 yagis with auto tracking. I totally agree with the
comments here on this subject of wild west operations on SO-50. It is out of
control. Here on the wet coast there is a WA6 ( wont say his call here )
every day that is constantly either ruining qso's or using way too much
power and wiping out transponders completely. And if you call this LID, he
either cannot hear you or ignores you and continues his ignorant disregard
for other users so HE can get HIS contacts and to heck with anyone else. A
constant and rather rude transponder HOG that is on almost every pass of
every voice satellite. So as of today, we (my daughter and I) will go back
to weak signal work and drop off satellite use until these LIDS either
disappear or
> something. Our 2 cents worth. Everyone have a great day wherever you might
be. 73.<br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 13:52:05 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, ve7jz@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
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Or just work the transponders (not the FM repeaters) and avoid the lids.
That normally means being somewhere other than the exact middle of the
passband. I have a few stations that I will absolutely not work until they
clean up their operating style. Otherwise, I go out of my way to look for
new ops.
73, Drew KO4MA
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Sep 2, 2013 1:39 PM
>To: ve7jz@xxxxx.xxx
>Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
>
>Hi John...the LIDS will never disappear..there are many more waiting in the
wings...the best we can do is to "politely" educate the alleged offenders,
usually via email.
>73 Bob W7LRD
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John - VE7JZ" <ve7jz@xxxxx.xxx>
>To: "Mat 62" <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 8:19:59 AM
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
>
>My daughter, who is a new ham has just given up on trying SO-50. 5 times
now she has set up the station to work someone and the moment she unkeys,
there is someone calling and not listening. We here, have a TS-2000 with
az-el setup and 2 yagis with auto tracking. I totally agree with the
comments here on this subject of wild west operations on SO-50. It is out of
control. Here on the wet coast there is a WA6 ( wont say his call here )
every day that is constantly either ruining qso's or using way too much
power and wiping out transponders completely. And if you call this LID, he
either cannot hear you or ignores you and continues his ignorant disregard
for other users so HE can get HIS contacts and to heck with anyone else. A
constant and rather rude transponder HOG that is on almost every pass of
every voice satellite. So as of today, we (my daughter and I) will go back
to weak signal work and drop off satellite use until these LIDS either
disappear or
>something. Our 2 cents worth. Everyone have a great day wherever you might
be. 73.<br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:50:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin M <n4ufo@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
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John, it's not just the west coast... There is one in the middle of the US
that does about the same thing. On the linear birds, he calls over top of
others who are already trying tomake a call. And he also tends to act like a
'grid traffic controller' on SO-50 with unnecessary chatter. Especially on
SO-50, one needs to be as brief as possible and get off... it's common
courtesy. Personally, I've quit the birds for a while... no need to put up
with such nonsense, ham radio is supposed to be fun. I have some recently
purchased antennas, preamps and an AZ-EL rotor in the closet. I was anxious
to get them up this fall, but now I think I might wait until spring and see
how things are. Maybe I will see you then. =^)? Just wanted to let you know,
it's not just you.
Good luck on the weak signal work. As for me... I'm plan to work on some
radials for new verticals and invest my time in chasing DX on HF and 160m.?
73! N4UFO
From: John - VE7JZ
My daughter, who is a new ham has just given up on trying SO-50. 5 times now
she has set up the station to work someone and the moment she unkeys, there is
someone calling and not listening. We here, have a TS-2000 with az-el setup
and
2 yagis with auto tracking. I totally agree with the comments here on this
subject of wild west operations on SO-50. It is out of control. Here on the
wet coast there is a WA6 ( wont say his call here ) every day that is
constantly either ruining qso's or using way too much power and wiping out
transponders completely. And if you call this LID, he either cannot hear you
or
ignores you and continues his ignorant disregard for other users so HE can get
HIS contacts and to heck with anyone else. A constant and rather rude
transponder HOG that is on almost every pass of every voice satellite. So as
of
today, we (my daughter and I) will go back to weak signal work and drop off
satellite use until these LIDS either disappear or something. Our 2 cents
worth. Everyone have a great day wherever you might
be. 73.
?
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