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Today's Topics:

   1. FUNcube-1 Launch Date Announced (M5AKA)
   2. Re: High orbit satellites? (Rick Tejera)
   3. Re: FUNcube-1 Launch Date Announced (M5AKA)
   4. Re: FUNcube-1 Launch Date Announced (Fabiano Moser)
   5. Re: High orbit satellites? (Alan)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:45:53 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube-1 Launch Date Announced
Message-ID:
<1377899153.87763.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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FUNcube-1 carrying a 435/145 MHz linear transponder for SSB/CW
communications is expected to be launched on November 21, 2013, see


http://amsat-uk.org/2013/08/30/funcube-1-launch-date-announced/

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73 Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK website http://amsat-uk.org/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AMSAT-UK/208113275898396
Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 15:14:05 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <SaguaroAstro@xxx.xxx>
To: "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: High orbit satellites?
Message-ID: <02e901cea5ce$3dd3cda0$b97b68e0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Andrew,

 I for one do appreciate the work the board and other volunteers do. It's
certainly something I'm far from qualified to do and to be honest, I
probably would not want to.

I came into the hobby long after the HEO era ended, so I can only live
vicariously through others recollections and hope "Someday"

That being said I also can see there is a new launch paradigm and we have to
adjust to it. I commend the board for accepting this and doing what they can
to adapt to the new reality.

I imagine the engineering obstacles to get a 3u Cubesat that would be viable
in HEO are many, which most likely put that well into the future.

When I give my talk on Satellite engineering principles to local clubs, the
most common question I get asked is "When are we going to get an HEO?" My
Answer is Not for a long time.

73 and looking forward to Fox..

Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 7:22 AM
To: Jeff Moore; amsat-bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: High orbit satellites?


>On 8/30/2013 1:25 AM, Jeff Moore wrote:
>> How about hitting up the new COMMERCIAL launchers like SpaceX??
>> Those guys originated as amateur rocketeers.

I would hope that folks have a little more faith in AMSAT leadership as far
as exploring opportunities for launches, even if you don't read about every
contact or discussion in ANS or QST.

SpaceX is Elon Musk's company, who founded PayPal and Tesla Motors as well.
He's not an amateur anything; he's one of the most successful businessmen in
the world, a real-life Tony Stark. AMSAT-DL has met with Space-X, and this
fact has been published in many places
(http://amsat.org/pipermail/ans/2010/000378.html). SpaceX rarely launches
pure test flights, they normally have paying customers even on first
launches. Secondary payloads are handled through Spaceflight Services, and
their rates are published at http://spaceflightservices.com/pricing-plans/ .
Fifty kg, or about half of what Eagle would have been, to GTO would cost 3
million dollars. Hey! that's only like $1000 per member! P3E, at 150kg,
would be closer to 8 million, IF it could be made to fit the space
available, and most likely mounted and launched sideways.

Opportunities may still be out there to go to HEO, but it's a fairy tale to
think that all we have to do is knock on the door and ask. It is also
disheartening to see that so many just assume that we aren't trying.

73, Drew KO4MA


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:26:11 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube-1 Launch Date Announced
Message-ID:
<1377937571.15660.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

The FUNcube information sheets have been revised and are now available via

http://amsat-uk.org/2013/08/30/funcube-1-launch-date-announced/

or these links
?? FUNcube_Project Information_aug2013
?? FUNcube_Educational_Outreach aug2013

73 Trevor M5AKA

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:17:56 +0100
From: Fabiano Moser <fabianomoser@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube-1 Launch Date Announced
Message-ID:
<CAM6o-mav6DSan+fp9gtt12Uu91=wyVzegUiB6uT_ML5VBPszQg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

This is very good news!

Have a safe launch, and hope all gonna be OK.
How we can track him?

73
Fabiano CT7ABD


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:26 AM, M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:

> The FUNcube information sheets have been revised and are now available via
>
> http://amsat-uk.org/2013/08/30/funcube-1-launch-date-announced/
>
> or these links
> ?  FUNcube_Project Information_aug2013
> ?  FUNcube_Educational_Outreach aug2013
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 07:23:23 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Rick Tejera'" <SaguaroAstro@xxx.xxx>, "'amsat-bb'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: CC <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: High orbit satellites?
Message-ID: <4FF86210816E443DA4DC0ECF448D4052@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Rick,

I have a "back pocket" slide for my presentation when someone asks about P3.
 It is titled "The Future
Isn't What It Used to Be!" which walks through the technical and financial
changes which have required
the paradigm shift.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA





-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Rick Tejera
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 5:14 PM
To: 'amsat-bb'
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: High orbit satellites?

Andrew,

 I for one do appreciate the work the board and other volunteers do. It's
certainly something I'm far from qualified to do and to be honest, I
probably would not want to.

I came into the hobby long after the HEO era ended, so I can only live
vicariously through others recollections and hope "Someday"

That being said I also can see there is a new launch paradigm and we have to
adjust to it. I commend the board for accepting this and doing what they can
to adapt to the new reality.

I imagine the engineering obstacles to get a 3u Cubesat that would be viable
in HEO are many, which most likely put that well into the future.

When I give my talk on Satellite engineering principles to local clubs, the
most common question I get asked is "When are we going to get an HEO?" My
Answer is Not for a long time.

73 and looking forward to Fox..

Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club
www.w7tbc.org


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 7:22 AM
To: Jeff Moore; amsat-bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: High orbit satellites?


>On 8/30/2013 1:25 AM, Jeff Moore wrote:
>> How about hitting up the new COMMERCIAL launchers like SpaceX??
>> Those guys originated as amateur rocketeers.

I would hope that folks have a little more faith in AMSAT leadership as far
as exploring opportunities for launches, even if you don't read about every
contact or discussion in ANS or QST.

SpaceX is Elon Musk's company, who founded PayPal and Tesla Motors as well.
He's not an amateur anything; he's one of the most successful businessmen in
the world, a real-life Tony Stark. AMSAT-DL has met with Space-X, and this
fact has been published in many places
(http://amsat.org/pipermail/ans/2010/000378.html). SpaceX rarely launches
pure test flights, they normally have paying customers even on first
launches. Secondary payloads are handled through Spaceflight Services, and
their rates are published at http://spaceflightservices.com/pricing-plans/ .
Fifty kg, or about half of what Eagle would have been, to GTO would cost 3
million dollars. Hey! that's only like $1000 per member! P3E, at 150kg,
would be closer to 8 million, IF it could be made to fit the space
available, and most likely mounted and launched sideways.

Opportunities may still be out there to go to HEO, but it's a fairy tale to
think that all we have to do is knock on the door and ask. It is also
disheartening to see that so many just assume that we aren't trying.

73, Drew KO4MA


_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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