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   1. Re: The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids non-Award
      (Harvey N. Vordenbaum)
   2. Need AMSAT Library of Mac programs recommendations (Alan)
   3. Re: The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids non-Award (R.T.Liddy)
   4. Re: The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids non-Award (Bruce)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:18:15 -0500
From: "Harvey N. Vordenbaum" <tower2@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: "'John Papay'" <FL@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids
non-Award
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Is there an AMSAT Award for this?
k5hv


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of John Papay
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 1:08 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids non-Award

Some of the active grid chasers on the birds are aware that KA6SIP just gave
me my last USA grid when he operated from CN72 in Oregon.  And I thought it
might be interesting to look at the stats and how one manages to work and
confirm all 488 USA lower 48 States grids.

Satellite operators come and go and grids come and go with them.
A grid might have a very active operator in it and then it is off the air
when that person goes away for whatever reason.
Interestingly, about half of the 488 grids that were worked were from those
operating portable, not in the sense of using a radio with batteries, but in
the traditional sense of operating away from their home station location.
Once you have experienced being on the other end of a small pileup, you will
want to do it again.  Just ask W7LRD who tried it recently and is planning
another trip.  Here is a list of operators who exited the comfort of their
home station and put a grid on the air.  The callsign is followed by the
number of new grids they gave me towards the goal of working all 488.
Others may have been worked but these totals represent the first time a new
grid was confirmed.

ND9M 54
WD9EWK 27
WC7V 19
KD4ZGW 16
KB0RZD 10
KC0YBM 9
AA5CK 8
KA6SIP 8
KD8COQ 8
N5ZNL 7
W6GMT 7
N0JE 6
N2SPI 6
WA4NVM 5
KB5WIA 4
KB9BIT 4
KC0ZHF 4
KK0SD 4
AA5PK 3
K7CWQ 3
UT1FG 3
W6ZKH 3
WA6ARA 3
WA7HQD 3
WA8SME 3
AC0ZA 2
AJ9K 2
K0BAM 2
K7DRA 2
K7TRK 2
KA0RID 2
KC2LRC 2
KE7DOV 2
N3TL 2
N5AFV 2

Jim, ND9M, is a seasoned grid expeditioner.  Along with working satellites
he is also active on the county hunters nets.  Most of his activity was
between 2009 and 2011.  He was also active from a cargo ship and gave out
the very rare DM02.  Jim would travel for months at a time and worked from a
few hundred grids.  Most of that operating was done on FM birds rather than
linear ones.  It was great to have many daily fm passes when AO-27 and AO-51
were active.
HO-68 and SO-67 were in the mix for a while too.  54 new grids came from Jim
and he tops the list.

Most everyone knows Patrick WD9EWK.  He has done a lot of traveling both in
the US and Canada and he gave me 27 new grids.  He was very active on the
birds until recently.  He was an alternate on the AMSAT Board of Directors
and was recently appointed to oversee the AMSAT Area Coordinator program.
He virtually has no home station and most all local contacts were made from
a park near his apartment in Phoenix.
He knows how to do it and he is a meticulous planner.

Next on the list is Kerry WC7V.  He lives in sparsely populated Montana and
travels around by car and in his light aircraft.  He went to many grids at
my request and made a lot of us very happy by operating from many rare
locations.  He is in slot number 3 with 19 grids.

Next on the list is Rob KD4ZGW/m.  Rob drove an 18 wheeler and we all heard
him on a satellite one day.  He didn't know his grid square but he knew his
milepost on the interstate.  From there we had the grid square.  Rob went on
to improve his mobile station and activated over
100 grid squares.  He is no longer driving on long hauls and has not been
active for some time.  He is fourth on the list with 16 grids.

The next three are very special because they all became new operators during
the quest to work all 488.  Gail KB0RZD is very active today, usually
operating with a handie-talkie.  He went to 10 grids around him and sent
some photo qsl cards that were just outstanding.  KC0YBM operated from his
home location for a long time before I realized he was very close to other
grids.  Chris didn't have portable equipment so I suggested he look into an
AC inverter for the car.  He did just that and soon he was operating
portable from some new grids.  This speaks to the ham radio culture that you
find a way to operate with what you have.  Chris continues to be active and
hands out grids in the US and Canada.  And then there is Ted, AA5CK. He has
operated in grids around his home qth as well as some rare ones in New
Mexico.  He lives in EM04, not far from EM05 where I made my first grid
expedition contact with KD8CAO from EM05 in front of the White Dog Ranch on
old Route 66.  I remember Ted's first sat contact.

There are a few very special operators that can't be left out.  My son,
KD8CAO, provided 8 new grids for his dad.  He knows how to operate portable
and gives out the grids when he travels.  Then there was Richard N2SPI.  I
asked him about some grids in Maine that hadn't been on and he took the
challenge and drove to all of them, getting back to his dad's place during
the first snow of the season.  Dave KB5WIA made quite the trip by
backpacking into CM79.  It took two trips to transport the equipment into
the grid.  He has a video of it on youtube.

I started with satellites in June 2006 and only had 47 USA grids by August
2008.  From August 2008 till Jan 2009 I worked another 109.  In 2009 199
were worked.  2010 was 76 and 2011 was 44.  Only 4 new grids were worked in
2012 and 9 were snagged in 2013.  Eight of those final 9 grids were handed
out by Tom KA6SIP.  He heard about the need and decided to make a grid
expedition to put them on the air.  He did 7 of them in one trip.
Then Bob W7LRD went to the beach in CN77, operating away from home for the
first time.  That left CN72.  Tom just got back from Hawaii and quickly made
plans to camp out in CN72 and gave me the final grid on AO-7B, 20 August
2013 at 2332z.  Then he put CN71 on the air on 22-23August, also a very rare
grid square but one that I already had.  Many others worked him there.

There is no award for working all 488 grids on satellites as there is for
six meters (FFMA).  The ARRL awards committee has looked at it and will
implement it if someone on the Board of Directors brings it up for a vote
and it passes.  Hopefully that will happen soon.  Having that type of award
gives everyone something to work for.  It promotes grid expeditions and
interest in working through the satellites.  If we all contact our ARRL
Director, it might just happen.

There may be others who have already worked all 488 grids on satellites.
K6YK might be one of them.  I know there are several others who are getting
close.  It is not any easy thing to accomplish even if you operate every
day.  It is something you can work towards over the years.

I want to thank everyone that made satellite contacts with me that
ultimately led to working all 488.  Many went out of their way to put on a
grid.  Over half of the grids worked were from grid expeditions!  If you
haven't experienced operating away from home, please consider it.  With new
operators showing up on the birds every day, there is always a need for an
uncommon grid.  And you will have a lot of fun doing it!  Just ask anyone on
my list.

73,
John K8YSE

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:42:03 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: CC <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Need AMSAT Library of Mac programs recommendations
Message-ID: <4C57BF004CE747029389F55FB8B2DA6A@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

As part of moving features to the new AMSAT.ORG site, we are cleaning out
old programs which are no
longer used or useful.  I would appreciate Mac users looking at the old
programs and letting me know
which ones are still useful, or not.

http://web.archive.org/web/20130127214927/http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools
/softwareArchive.php#mac

The old archive WILL be available, but we want to clean out the dead wood
for current programs.
Hopefully with a refreshed site we will also have new programs available.

Thanks,

Alan
WA4SCA



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids
non-Award
Message-ID:
<1377278160.25107.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

John,
?
NICE GOING!!!!? A long and difficult challenge and quest is finally
accomplished!! CONGRATS!
?
It was very nice to give needed credit to the many other Hams who
helped you during your endeavor. Excellent Ham Radio Spirit!
?
I support the idea of having an ARRL Award similar to the FFMA for
the working of?ALL CONUS Grids via Satellite. Of course the Fred
Award is only for 6 Meters, but doing it via Satellite is similarly difficult
and requires a long and?skillful effort with a well-designed station.
?
73,??? Bob K8BL


________________________________
From: John Papay <FL@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 1:08 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids non-Award


Some of the active grid chasers on the birds are aware
that KA6SIP just gave me my last USA grid when he operated
from CN72 in Oregon.? And I thought it might be interesting
to look at the stats and how one manages to work and confirm
all 488 USA lower 48 States grids.

Satellite operators come and go and grids come and go with them.
A grid might have a very active operator in it and then it is
off the air when that person goes away for whatever reason.
Interestingly, about half of the 488 grids that were worked were
from those operating portable, not in the sense of using a radio
with batteries, but in the traditional sense of operating away from
their home station location.? Once you have experienced being on the
other end of a small pileup, you will want to do it again.? Just ask
W7LRD who tried it recently and is planning another trip.? Here is
a list of operators who exited the comfort of their home station and
put a grid on the air.? The callsign is followed by the number of new
grids they gave me towards the goal of working all 488.? Others may have
been worked but these totals represent the first time a new grid was
confirmed.

ND9M 54
WD9EWK 27
WC7V 19
KD4ZGW 16
KB0RZD 10
KC0YBM 9
AA5CK 8
KA6SIP 8
KD8COQ 8
N5ZNL 7
W6GMT 7
N0JE 6
N2SPI 6
WA4NVM 5
KB5WIA 4
KB9BIT 4
KC0ZHF 4
KK0SD 4
AA5PK 3
K7CWQ 3
UT1FG 3
W6ZKH 3
WA6ARA 3
WA7HQD 3
WA8SME 3
AC0ZA 2
AJ9K 2
K0BAM 2
K7DRA 2
K7TRK 2
KA0RID 2
KC2LRC 2
KE7DOV 2
N3TL 2
N5AFV 2

Jim, ND9M, is a seasoned grid expeditioner.? Along with working
satellites he is also active on the county hunters nets.? Most of
his activity was between 2009 and 2011.? He was also active from a
cargo ship and gave out the very rare DM02.? Jim would travel for
months at a time and worked from a few hundred grids.? Most of that
operating was done on FM birds rather than linear ones.? It was
great to have many daily fm passes when AO-27 and AO-51 were active.
HO-68 and SO-67 were in the mix for a while too.? 54 new grids came
from Jim and he tops the list.

Most everyone knows Patrick WD9EWK.? He has done a lot of traveling
both in the US and Canada and he gave me 27 new grids.? He was very
active on the birds until recently.? He was an alternate on the AMSAT
Board of Directors and was recently appointed to oversee the AMSAT
Area Coordinator program.? He virtually has no home station and most
all local contacts were made from a park near his apartment in Phoenix.
He knows how to do it and he is a meticulous planner.

Next on the list is Kerry WC7V.? He lives in sparsely populated Montana
and travels around by car and in his light aircraft.? He went to many
grids at my request and made a lot of us very happy by operating from
many rare locations.? He is in slot number 3 with 19 grids.

Next on the list is Rob KD4ZGW/m.? Rob drove an 18 wheeler and we all
heard him on a satellite one day.? He didn't know his grid square but
he knew his milepost on the interstate.? From there we had the grid
square.? Rob went on to improve his mobile station and activated over
100 grid squares.? He is no longer driving on long hauls and has not
been active for some time.? He is fourth on the list with 16 grids.

The next three are very special because they all became new operators
during the quest to work all 488.? Gail KB0RZD is very active today,
usually operating with a handie-talkie.? He went to 10 grids around him
and sent some photo qsl cards that were just outstanding.? KC0YBM operated
from his home location for a long time before I realized he was very
close to other grids.? Chris didn't have portable equipment so I suggested
he look into an AC inverter for the car.? He did just that and soon he
was operating portable from some new grids.? This speaks to the ham radio
culture that you find a way to operate with what you have.? Chris continues
to be active and hands out grids in the US and Canada.? And then there
is Ted, AA5CK. He has operated in grids around his home qth as well as
some rare ones in New Mexico.? He lives in EM04, not far from EM05 where
I made my first grid expedition contact with KD8CAO from EM05 in front of
the White Dog Ranch on old Route 66.? I remember Ted's first sat contact.

There are a few very special operators that can't be left out.? My son,
KD8CAO, provided 8 new grids for his dad.? He knows how to operate
portable and gives out the grids when he travels.? Then there was
Richard N2SPI.? I asked him about some grids in Maine that hadn't been
on and he took the challenge and drove to all of them, getting back to
his dad's place during the first snow of the season.? Dave KB5WIA made
quite the trip by backpacking into CM79.? It took two trips to transport
the equipment into the grid.? He has a video of it on youtube.

I started with satellites in June 2006 and only had 47 USA grids by August
2008.? From August 2008 till Jan 2009 I worked another 109.? In 2009 199
were worked.? 2010 was 76 and 2011 was 44.? Only 4 new grids were worked
in 2012 and 9 were snagged in 2013.? Eight of those final 9 grids were
handed out by Tom KA6SIP.? He heard about the need and decided to make a
grid expedition to put them on the air.? He did 7 of them in one trip.
Then Bob W7LRD went to the beach in CN77, operating away from home for
the first time.? That left CN72.? Tom just got back from Hawaii and quickly
made plans to camp out in CN72 and gave me the final grid on AO-7B, 20 August
2013 at 2332z.? Then he put CN71 on the air on 22-23August, also a very
rare grid square but one that I already had.? Many others worked him there.

There is no award for working all 488 grids on satellites as there is
for six meters (FFMA).? The ARRL awards committee has looked at it and will
implement it if someone on the Board of Directors brings it up for a vote
and it passes.? Hopefully that will happen soon.? Having that type of award
gives everyone something to work for.? It promotes grid expeditions and
interest in working through the satellites.? If we all contact our
ARRL Director, it might just happen.

There may be others who have already worked all 488 grids on satellites.
K6YK might be one of them.? I know there are several others who are
getting close.? It is not any easy thing to accomplish even if you operate
every day.? It is something you can work towards over the years.

I want to thank everyone that made satellite contacts with me that ultimately
led to working all 488.? Many went out of their way to put on a grid.? Over
half of the grids worked were from grid expeditions!? If you haven't
experienced
operating away from home, please consider it.? With new operators showing up
on the birds every day, there is always a need for an uncommon grid.? And you
will have a lot of fun doing it!? Just ask anyone on my list.

73,
John K8YSE

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:40:08 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Harvey N. Vordenbaum" <tower2@xxx.xx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx 'John Papay' <FL@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids
non-Award
Message-ID: <52179E78.5020506@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

No, AMSAT does not offer an award for this. The reason is that AMSAT is
an international organization and to offer an award that is only
available to those in one hemisphere would not be in keeping with the
spirit of our society. We promote operating satellites and try to do so
worldwide. Yes, it is a wonderful accomplishment so is working all
continents (which I think is now impossible on satellite due to the lack
of a HEO satellite) or working all state capitals. I believe the first
person to have completed this was Randy, N7SFI, (new call WI7P) about 10
years ago.

All of our awards were designed to make them achievable by anyone that
desired to operate satellites. You will notice the requirement for our
basic award being 20 DXCC entities, States, VE call areas, although
favoring those stateside, allows those in foreign countries to also
accomplish earning the award. In Europe, the countries are so small that
many operators could work 20 countries on one pass of a satellite
whereas in the US, you can get 20 states but might find it very
difficult to work 20 countries. It balances itself out.

When AO-51 was launched and we offered an award for working 51 contacts
on AO-51 and the South Africa Award is for working 25 different stations
on LEO satellites. Both are achievable by anyone worldwide.

73...bruce
AMSAT Director of Awards and Contests

On 8/23/2013 11:18 AM, Harvey N. Vordenbaum wrote:
> Is there an AMSAT Award for this?
> k5hv
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of John Papay
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 1:08 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids non-Award
>
> Some of the active grid chasers on the birds are aware that KA6SIP just gave
> me my last USA grid when he operated from CN72 in Oregon.  And I thought it
> might be interesting to look at the stats and how one manages to work and
> confirm all 488 USA lower 48 States grids.
>
> Satellite operators come and go and grids come and go with them.
> A grid might have a very active operator in it and then it is off the air
> when that person goes away for whatever reason.
> Interestingly, about half of the 488 grids that were worked were from those
> operating portable, not in the sense of using a radio with batteries, but in
> the traditional sense of operating away from their home station location.
> Once you have experienced being on the other end of a small pileup, you will
> want to do it again.  Just ask W7LRD who tried it recently and is planning
> another trip.  Here is a list of operators who exited the comfort of their
> home station and put a grid on the air.  The callsign is followed by the
> number of new grids they gave me towards the goal of working all 488.
> Others may have been worked but these totals represent the first time a new
> grid was confirmed.
>
> ND9M 54
> WD9EWK 27
> WC7V 19
> KD4ZGW 16
> KB0RZD 10
> KC0YBM 9
> AA5CK 8
> KA6SIP 8
> KD8COQ 8
> N5ZNL 7
> W6GMT 7
> N0JE 6
> N2SPI 6
> WA4NVM 5
> KB5WIA 4
> KB9BIT 4
> KC0ZHF 4
> KK0SD 4
> AA5PK 3
> K7CWQ 3
> UT1FG 3
> W6ZKH 3
> WA6ARA 3
> WA7HQD 3
> WA8SME 3
> AC0ZA 2
> AJ9K 2
> K0BAM 2
> K7DRA 2
> K7TRK 2
> KA0RID 2
> KC2LRC 2
> KE7DOV 2
> N3TL 2
> N5AFV 2
>
> Jim, ND9M, is a seasoned grid expeditioner.  Along with working satellites
> he is also active on the county hunters nets.  Most of his activity was
> between 2009 and 2011.  He was also active from a cargo ship and gave out
> the very rare DM02.  Jim would travel for months at a time and worked from a
> few hundred grids.  Most of that operating was done on FM birds rather than
> linear ones.  It was great to have many daily fm passes when AO-27 and AO-51
> were active.
> HO-68 and SO-67 were in the mix for a while too.  54 new grids came from Jim
> and he tops the list.
>
> Most everyone knows Patrick WD9EWK.  He has done a lot of traveling both in
> the US and Canada and he gave me 27 new grids.  He was very active on the
> birds until recently.  He was an alternate on the AMSAT Board of Directors
> and was recently appointed to oversee the AMSAT Area Coordinator program.
> He virtually has no home station and most all local contacts were made from
> a park near his apartment in Phoenix.
> He knows how to do it and he is a meticulous planner.
>
> Next on the list is Kerry WC7V.  He lives in sparsely populated Montana and
> travels around by car and in his light aircraft.  He went to many grids at
> my request and made a lot of us very happy by operating from many rare
> locations.  He is in slot number 3 with 19 grids.
>
> Next on the list is Rob KD4ZGW/m.  Rob drove an 18 wheeler and we all heard
> him on a satellite one day.  He didn't know his grid square but he knew his
> milepost on the interstate.  From there we had the grid square.  Rob went on
> to improve his mobile station and activated over
> 100 grid squares.  He is no longer driving on long hauls and has not been
> active for some time.  He is fourth on the list with 16 grids.
>
> The next three are very special because they all became new operators during
> the quest to work all 488.  Gail KB0RZD is very active today, usually
> operating with a handie-talkie.  He went to 10 grids around him and sent
> some photo qsl cards that were just outstanding.  KC0YBM operated from his
> home location for a long time before I realized he was very close to other
> grids.  Chris didn't have portable equipment so I suggested he look into an
> AC inverter for the car.  He did just that and soon he was operating
> portable from some new grids.  This speaks to the ham radio culture that you
> find a way to operate with what you have.  Chris continues to be active and
> hands out grids in the US and Canada.  And then there is Ted, AA5CK. He has
> operated in grids around his home qth as well as some rare ones in New
> Mexico.  He lives in EM04, not far from EM05 where I made my first grid
> expedition contact with KD8CAO from EM05 in front of the White Dog Ranch on
> old Route 66.  I remember Ted's first sat contact.
>
> There are a few very special operators that can't be left out.  My son,
> KD8CAO, provided 8 new grids for his dad.  He knows how to operate portable
> and gives out the grids when he travels.  Then there was Richard N2SPI.  I
> asked him about some grids in Maine that hadn't been on and he took the
> challenge and drove to all of them, getting back to his dad's place during
> the first snow of the season.  Dave KB5WIA made quite the trip by
> backpacking into CM79.  It took two trips to transport the equipment into
> the grid.  He has a video of it on youtube.
>
> I started with satellites in June 2006 and only had 47 USA grids by August
> 2008.  From August 2008 till Jan 2009 I worked another 109.  In 2009 199
> were worked.  2010 was 76 and 2011 was 44.  Only 4 new grids were worked in
> 2012 and 9 were snagged in 2013.  Eight of those final 9 grids were handed
> out by Tom KA6SIP.  He heard about the need and decided to make a grid
> expedition to put them on the air.  He did 7 of them in one trip.
> Then Bob W7LRD went to the beach in CN77, operating away from home for the
> first time.  That left CN72.  Tom just got back from Hawaii and quickly made
> plans to camp out in CN72 and gave me the final grid on AO-7B, 20 August
> 2013 at 2332z.  Then he put CN71 on the air on 22-23August, also a very rare
> grid square but one that I already had.  Many others worked him there.
>
> There is no award for working all 488 grids on satellites as there is for
> six meters (FFMA).  The ARRL awards committee has looked at it and will
> implement it if someone on the Board of Directors brings it up for a vote
> and it passes.  Hopefully that will happen soon.  Having that type of award
> gives everyone something to work for.  It promotes grid expeditions and
> interest in working through the satellites.  If we all contact our ARRL
> Director, it might just happen.
>
> There may be others who have already worked all 488 grids on satellites.
> K6YK might be one of them.  I know there are several others who are getting
> close.  It is not any easy thing to accomplish even if you operate every
> day.  It is something you can work towards over the years.
>
> I want to thank everyone that made satellite contacts with me that
> ultimately led to working all 488.  Many went out of their way to put on a
> grid.  Over half of the grids worked were from grid expeditions!  If you
> haven't experienced operating away from home, please consider it.  With new
> operators showing up on the birds every day, there is always a need for an
> uncommon grid.  And you will have a lot of fun doing it!  Just ask anyone on
> my list.
>
> 73,
> John K8YSE
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:54:14 -0700
From: Larry Teran <ki6yaa@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Papay <FL@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids
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Nice to hear that and Congratulations to you John!


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08 PM, John Papay <FL@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Some of the active grid chasers on the birds are aware
> that KA6SIP just gave me my last USA grid when he operated
> from CN72 in Oregon.  And I thought it might be interesting
> to look at the stats and how one manages to work and confirm
> all 488 USA lower 48 States grids.
>
> Satellite operators come and go and grids come and go with them.
> A grid might have a very active operator in it and then it is
> off the air when that person goes away for whatever reason.
> Interestingly, about half of the 488 grids that were worked were
> from those operating portable, not in the sense of using a radio
> with batteries, but in the traditional sense of operating away from
> their home station location.  Once you have experienced being on the
> other end of a small pileup, you will want to do it again.  Just ask
> W7LRD who tried it recently and is planning another trip.  Here is
> a list of operators who exited the comfort of their home station and
> put a grid on the air.  The callsign is followed by the number of new
> grids they gave me towards the goal of working all 488.  Others may have
> been worked but these totals represent the first time a new grid was
> confirmed.
>
> ND9M 54
> WD9EWK 27
> WC7V 19
> KD4ZGW 16
> KB0RZD 10
> KC0YBM 9
> AA5CK 8
> KA6SIP 8
> KD8COQ 8
> N5ZNL 7
> W6GMT 7
> N0JE 6
> N2SPI 6
> WA4NVM 5
> KB5WIA 4
> KB9BIT 4
> KC0ZHF 4
> KK0SD 4
> AA5PK 3
> K7CWQ 3
> UT1FG 3
> W6ZKH 3
> WA6ARA 3
> WA7HQD 3
> WA8SME 3
> AC0ZA 2
> AJ9K 2
> K0BAM 2
> K7DRA 2
> K7TRK 2
> KA0RID 2
> KC2LRC 2
> KE7DOV 2
> N3TL 2
> N5AFV 2
>
> Jim, ND9M, is a seasoned grid expeditioner.  Along with working
> satellites he is also active on the county hunters nets.  Most of
> his activity was between 2009 and 2011.  He was also active from a
> cargo ship and gave out the very rare DM02.  Jim would travel for
> months at a time and worked from a few hundred grids.  Most of that
> operating was done on FM birds rather than linear ones.  It was
> great to have many daily fm passes when AO-27 and AO-51 were active.
> HO-68 and SO-67 were in the mix for a while too.  54 new grids came
> from Jim and he tops the list.
>
> Most everyone knows Patrick WD9EWK.  He has done a lot of traveling
> both in the US and Canada and he gave me 27 new grids.  He was very
> active on the birds until recently.  He was an alternate on the AMSAT
> Board of Directors and was recently appointed to oversee the AMSAT
> Area Coordinator program.  He virtually has no home station and most
> all local contacts were made from a park near his apartment in Phoenix.
> He knows how to do it and he is a meticulous planner.
>
> Next on the list is Kerry WC7V.  He lives in sparsely populated Montana
> and travels around by car and in his light aircraft.  He went to many
> grids at my request and made a lot of us very happy by operating from
> many rare locations.  He is in slot number 3 with 19 grids.
>
> Next on the list is Rob KD4ZGW/m.  Rob drove an 18 wheeler and we all
> heard him on a satellite one day.  He didn't know his grid square but
> he knew his milepost on the interstate.  From there we had the grid
> square.  Rob went on to improve his mobile station and activated over
> 100 grid squares.  He is no longer driving on long hauls and has not
> been active for some time.  He is fourth on the list with 16 grids.
>
> The next three are very special because they all became new operators
> during the quest to work all 488.  Gail KB0RZD is very active today,
> usually operating with a handie-talkie.  He went to 10 grids around him
> and sent some photo qsl cards that were just outstanding.  KC0YBM operated
> from his home location for a long time before I realized he was very
> close to other grids.  Chris didn't have portable equipment so I suggested
> he look into an AC inverter for the car.  He did just that and soon he
> was operating portable from some new grids.  This speaks to the ham radio
> culture that you find a way to operate with what you have.  Chris continues
> to be active and hands out grids in the US and Canada.  And then there
> is Ted, AA5CK. He has operated in grids around his home qth as well as
> some rare ones in New Mexico.  He lives in EM04, not far from EM05 where
> I made my first grid expedition contact with KD8CAO from EM05 in front of
> the White Dog Ranch on old Route 66.  I remember Ted's first sat contact.
>
> There are a few very special operators that can't be left out.  My son,
> KD8CAO, provided 8 new grids for his dad.  He knows how to operate
> portable and gives out the grids when he travels.  Then there was
> Richard N2SPI.  I asked him about some grids in Maine that hadn't been
> on and he took the challenge and drove to all of them, getting back to
> his dad's place during the first snow of the season.  Dave KB5WIA made
> quite the trip by backpacking into CM79.  It took two trips to transport
> the equipment into the grid.  He has a video of it on youtube.
>
> I started with satellites in June 2006 and only had 47 USA grids by August
> 2008.  From August 2008 till Jan 2009 I worked another 109.  In 2009 199
> were worked.  2010 was 76 and 2011 was 44.  Only 4 new grids were worked
> in 2012 and 9 were snagged in 2013.  Eight of those final 9 grids were
> handed out by Tom KA6SIP.  He heard about the need and decided to make a
> grid expedition to put them on the air.  He did 7 of them in one trip.
> Then Bob W7LRD went to the beach in CN77, operating away from home for
> the first time.  That left CN72.  Tom just got back from Hawaii and quickly
> made plans to camp out in CN72 and gave me the final grid on AO-7B, 20
> August
> 2013 at 2332z.  Then he put CN71 on the air on 22-23August, also a very
> rare grid square but one that I already had.  Many others worked him there.
>
> There is no award for working all 488 grids on satellites as there is
> for six meters (FFMA).  The ARRL awards committee has looked at it and will
> implement it if someone on the Board of Directors brings it up for a vote
> and it passes.  Hopefully that will happen soon.  Having that type of award
> gives everyone something to work for.  It promotes grid expeditions and
> interest in working through the satellites.  If we all contact our
> ARRL Director, it might just happen.
>
> There may be others who have already worked all 488 grids on satellites.
> K6YK might be one of them.  I know there are several others who are
> getting close.  It is not any easy thing to accomplish even if you operate
> every day.  It is something you can work towards over the years.
>
> I want to thank everyone that made satellite contacts with me that
> ultimately
> led to working all 488.  Many went out of their way to put on a grid.  Over
> half of the grids worked were from grid expeditions!  If you haven't
> experienced
> operating away from home, please consider it.  With new operators showing
> up
> on the birds every day, there is always a need for an uncommon grid.  And
> you
> will have a lot of fun doing it!  Just ask anyone on my list.
>
> 73,
> John K8YSE
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:01:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: gkcarr@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx John Papay <fl@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ] Re: The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids
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John, congratulations! Don't let this wonderful achievement slow down your
hamsat contacts and activity!
73
George
WA5KBH


-----Original Message-----
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:01
To: "John Papay" <FL@xxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The USA Lower 48 Worked all 488 Grids non-Award



John,

Congratulations on working all 488 grids! I'm glad I was able to be
a part of that total.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/



On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08 PM, John Papay <FL@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Some of the active grid chasers on the birds are aware
> that KA6SIP just gave me my last USA grid when he operated
> from CN72 in Oregon. And I thought it might be interesting
> to look at the stats and how one manages to work and confirm
> all 488 USA lower 48 States grids.
>
> Satellite operators come and go and grids come and go with them.
> A grid might have a very active operator in it and then it is
> off the air when that person goes away for whatever reason.
> Interestingly, about half of the 488 grids that were worked were
> from those operating portable, not in the sense of using a radio
> with batteries, but in the traditional sense of operating away from
> their home station location. Once you have experienced being on the
> other end of a small pileup, you will want to do it again. Just ask
> W7LRD who tried it recently and is planning another trip. Here is
> a list of operators who exited the comfort of their home station and
> put a grid on the air. The callsign is followed by the number of new
> grids they gave me towards the goal of working all 488. Others may have
> been worked but these totals represent the first time a new grid was
> confirmed.
>
> ND9M 54
> WD9EWK 27
> WC7V 19
> KD4ZGW 16
> KB0RZD 10
> KC0YBM 9
> AA5CK 8
> KA6SIP 8
> KD8COQ 8
> N5ZNL 7
> W6GMT 7
> N0JE 6
> N2SPI 6
> WA4NVM 5
> KB5WIA 4
> KB9BIT 4
> KC0ZHF 4
> KK0SD 4
> AA5PK 3
> K7CWQ 3
> UT1FG 3
> W6ZKH 3
> WA6ARA 3
> WA7HQD 3
> WA8SME 3
> AC0ZA 2
> AJ9K 2
> K0BAM 2
> K7DRA 2
> K7TRK 2
> KA0RID 2
> KC2LRC 2
> KE7DOV 2
> N3TL 2
> N5AFV 2
>
> Jim, ND9M, is a seasoned grid expeditioner. Along with working
> satellites he is also active on the county hunters nets. Most of
> his activity was between 2009 and 2011. He was also active from a
> cargo ship and gave out the very rare DM02. Jim would travel for
> months at a time and worked from a few hundred grids. Most of that
> operating was done on FM birds rather than linear ones. It was
> great to have many daily fm passes when AO-27 and AO-51 were active.
> HO-68 and SO-67 were in the mix for a while too. 54 new grids came
> from Jim and he tops the list.
>
> Most everyone knows Patrick WD9EWK. He has done a lot of traveling
> both in the US and Canada and he gave me 27 new grids. He was very
> active on the birds until recently. He was an alternate on the AMSAT
> Board of Directors and was recently appointed to oversee the AMSAT
> Area Coordinator program. He virtually has no home station and most
> all local contacts were made from a park near his apartment in Phoenix.
> He knows how to do it and he is a meticulous planner.
>
> Next on the list is Kerry WC7V. He lives in sparsely populated Montana
> and travels around by car and in his light aircraft. He went to many
> grids at my request and made a lot of us very happy by operating from
> many rare locations. He is in slot number 3 with 19 grids.
>
> Next on the list is Rob KD4ZGW/m. Rob drove an 18 wheeler and we all
> heard him on a satellite one day. He didn't know his grid square but
> he knew his milepost on the interstate. From there we had the grid
> square. Rob went on to improve his mobile station and activated over
> 100 grid squares. He is no longer driving on long hauls and has not
> been active for some time. He is fourth on the list with 16 grids.
>
> The next three are very special because they all became new operators
> during the quest to work all 488. Gail KB0RZD is very active today,
> usually operating with a handie-talkie. He went to 10 grids around him
> and sent some photo qsl cards that were just outstanding. KC0YBM operated
> from his home location for a long time before I realized he was very
> close to other grids. Chris didn't have portable equipment so I suggested
> he look into an AC inverter for the car. He did just that and soon he
> was operating portable from some new grids. This speaks to the ham radio
> culture that you find a way to operate with what you have. Chris continues
> to be active and hands out grids in the US and Canada. And then there
> is Ted, AA5CK. He has operated in grids around his home qth as well as
> some rare ones in New Mexico. He lives in EM04, not far from EM05 where
> I made my first grid expedition contact with KD8CAO from EM05 in front of
> the White Dog Ranch on old Route 66. I remember Ted's first sat contact.
>
> There are a few very special operators that can't be left out. My son,
> KD8CAO, provided 8 new grids for his dad. He knows how to operate
> portable and gives out the grids when he travels. Then there was
> Richard N2SPI. I asked him about some grids in Maine that hadn't been
> on and he took the challenge and drove to all of them, getting back to
> his dad's place during the first snow of the season. Dave KB5WIA made
> quite the trip by backpacking into CM79. It took two trips to transport
> the equipment into the grid. He has a video of it on youtube.
>
> I started with satellites in June 2006 and only had 47 USA grids by August
> 2008. From August 2008 till Jan 2009 I worked another 109. In 2009 199
> were worked. 2010 was 76 and 2011 was 44. Only 4 new grids were worked
> in 2012 and 9 were snagged in 2013. Eight of those final 9 grids were
> handed out by Tom KA6SIP. He heard about the need and decided to make a
> grid expedition to put them on the air. He did 7 of them in one trip.
> Then Bob W7LRD went to the beach in CN77, operating away from home for
> the first time. That left CN72. Tom just got back from Hawaii and quickly
> made plans to camp out in CN72 and gave me the final grid on AO-7B, 20
> August
> 2013 at 2332z. Then he put CN71 on the air on 22-23August, also a very
> rare grid square but one that I already had. Many others worked him there.
>
> There is no award for working all 488 grids on satellites as there is
> for six meters (FFMA). The ARRL awards committee has looked at it and will
> implement it if someone on the Board of Directors brings it up for a vote
> and it passes. Hopefully that will happen soon. Having that type of award
> gives everyone something to work for. It promotes grid expeditions and
> interest in working through the satellites. If we all contact our
> ARRL Director, it might just happen.
>
> There may be others who have already worked all 488 grids on satellites.
> K6YK might be one of them. I know there are several others who are
> getting close. It is not any easy thing to accomplish even if you operate
> every day. It is something you can work towards over the years.
>
> I want to thank everyone that made satellite contacts with me that
> ultimately
> led to working all 488. Many went out of their way to put on a grid. Over
> half of the grids worked were from grid expeditions! If you haven't
> experienced
> operating away from home, please consider it. With new operators showing
> up
> on the birds every day, there is always a need for an uncommon grid. And
> you
> will have a lot of fun doing it! Just ask anyone on my list.
>
> 73,
> John K8YSE
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:11:58 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Houston
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For those in the DC area who are planning to go to the Symposium in
Houston, try United Airlines.  I got a round trip ticket including taxes
and fees for $285!

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