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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Antenna element and Boom material (Russ Ramirez)
2. [Sort of Off Topic] Non-Ham Satellites of Interest (Bryce Salmi)
3. EM26 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
4. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 8, Issue 264 (Humberto Gonz?lez)
5. Re: Antenna element and Boom material (i8cvs)
6. Re: Antenna element and Boom material (Joe)
7. Next Dragon Flight To Be In 2014 (B J)
8. New items at the online store (Bruce)
9. Beacon experiment - signed photocards (andy thomas)
10. D STAR AMSAT users net (damon runion)
11. Re: [Sort of Off Topic] Non-Ham Satellites of Interest
(Jean-Pierre Godet)
12. NASA School Contact on NASA-TV Now! (Clint Bradford)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:46:04 -0500
From: Russ Ramirez <russ.ramirez@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna element and Boom material
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>I am wondering about going from 1/4 inch tound elements to about 3/8 inch
square
>would effect the performance of this antenna.
>Mike Hoblinski
>N6IMF
It definitely will Mike, but not in a positive/negative way per se. Let me
explain.
If you follow an optimized design that called for 1/4 inch round elements
and substitute 3/8 in square tubing, the impedance and SWR bandwidth
characteristics will change in the general sense, and these changes may or
may not be desirable. I do not have the experience with LP antenna
implementations that I do with Yagi or wire antennas, so perhaps there are
other issues to consider. I would suspect that the low SWR points across
the bands would simply shift. Changes in element diameters generally
affects the electrical length, and in your example only a small amount.
Russ
K0WFS
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:24:37 -0700
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Sort of Off Topic] Non-Ham Satellites of Interest
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This is more of a curious question to anyone with some knowledge of non-ham
satellites (I know about the NOAA satellites though). Are there any
satellites that would be worth tracking at taking a listen to with an Arrow
handheld antenna and a Yeasu VX-8R (HT with AM/FM modes). This is simply my
curiosity of what's up there.
Bryce
KB1LQC
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 18:06:16 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx starcom-bb@xxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] EM26
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I plan on being on FO29 tonight from EM26 if anyone needs the grid. Look for
me high in the passband.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 18:12:25 -0500
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Today's Topics:
1. NASA Accepting CubeSat Proposals (Clint Bradford)
2. Last four passes from Hawaii on SO-50 & FO-29
(Tom Deeble - KA6SIP)
3. Bad wheather in FL11 (SO-50, CO7WT) (Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa)
4. DL93 :-) (Alvaro de Leon Romo)
5. Astronaut Luca Parmitano KF5KDP talks about ham radio
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:34:47 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Accepting CubeSat Proposals
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August 13, 2013
Joshua Buck
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1100
RELEASE 13-252
NASA Announces Next Opportunity for CubeSat Space Missions
NASA is now accepting proposals for the CubeSat Launch Initiative. Proposals
must be submitted electronically by 4:30 p.m. EST Nov. 26.
>From the submissions, NASA will select the best proposals by Feb. 7.
Developers whose proposals are selected may have the opportunity to see
their creations launched as an auxiliary payload on a mission between 2014
and 2017. NASA will not provide funding for the development of the small
satellites and selection does not guarantee a launch opportunity.
CubeSats are a class of cube-shaped research spacecraft called
nanosatellites. They are approximately 4 inches long, have a volume of about
1 quart and weigh less than 3 pounds.
CubeSat investigations should be consistent with NASA's strategic plan and
educational vision and goals. The research should address specific aspects
of science, exploration, technology development, education or operations.
>From the first four rounds of the NASA CubeSat Launch Initiative, 89
payloads from 25 U.S. states made the short list for launch opportunities in
2011 through 2016. Of the selected CubeSats, 12 satellites have already
launched. Twenty-one Cubesats are scheduled for launch later this year.
For additional information on NASA's CubeSat Launch Initiative program, visit:
http://go.nasa.gov/13VCBmz
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Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 18:45:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Deeble - KA6SIP <ka6sip@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Last four passes from Hawaii on SO-50 & FO-29
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Greetings,
This trip to Kauai did not quite go as planned and the satellite operation
really suffered.
It looks like the following four passes will close out this trip from BL02,
Kauai :
Today - Tues 8/13
SO-50 6:14 PM HST - 0414z 8/14
FO-29 8:01 PM HST - 0601z 8/14
Tomorrow - Wed 8/14
SO-50 8:18 AM HST - 1818z
FO-29 9:02 AM HST - 1902z
73's - Tom
Tom Deeble - KA6SIP
Mt. Diablo Amateur Radio Club Membership Chairman
ka6sip@xxx.xxx
PACIFICON - Oct 11-13, 2013
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:21:02 -0400
From: "Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa" <co7wt@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bad wheather in FL11 (SO-50, CO7WT)
Message-ID: <520ACD6E.5090803@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
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Hi to all,
In a few minutes there is a pass of SO-50 over my head... I have
promised to be there but there is a bad weather here raining since mid
afternoon...
If the things remain like this I will not be there... sorry...
If there is any las minute chance I will be there...
73 de CO7WT
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:51:52 -0500
From: Alvaro de Leon Romo <xe2at@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DL93 :-)
Message-ID: <SNT146-W174DB331402EDA286FF773F5450@xxx.xxx>
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Hi guys I will fly tomorrow 14th to DL93, this grid is a very rare so I will
try to be on SO50 the 2 morning and 2 night pass IF the pasengers are on
time to be at 1502 UTC.....
See you on SO50Ps I hope can remember how to use SO50 , I begin to be rusty
:-))
GL allSincerely Al XE2AT
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:20:43 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Astronaut Luca Parmitano KF5KDP talks about ham
radio contacts
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Luca KF5KDP / IR0ISS has been writing on his blog about his amateur radio
contacts, see
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/08/14/astronaut-luca-parmitano-kf5kdp-talks-about-his
-ham-radio-contacts/
Also on the AMSAT-UK site:
UKube-1: Art in Space
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/08/13/ukube-1-art-in-space/
Ofcom Consultation covers 2.3, 2.4, 3.4 and 5 GHz bands
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/08/09/ofcom-consultation-covers-2-3-2-4-3-4-and-5-ghz
-bands/
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 03:24:11 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Russ Ramirez" <russ.ramirez@xxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna element and Boom material
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Hi Mike, N6IMF
Russ, K0WFS
and All on the list
Generally speaking, if the elements of a yagi antenna are mechanically
mounted insulated over a metallic boom like a round or square aluminum
boom than the effect of the boom is to SHORT the lenght of the elements.
The same shortening effect affect the element lenght if the elements are
mounted directly in contact over or inside the metallic boom.
No matter if the boom is round or square the lenght of the elements
will be shortened in comparison to mount the elements over a plastic
insulated boom.
The plastic material as used for the boom do not affect tts than to change the size
elements from round 1/4 inch to about 3/8 inch square will affect only
a small amount the center resonance of the antenna at the working center
frequency and hence his change in VSWR and performance will be
very small.
Please read the following references on this matter:
1)P. Viezbicke, "Yagi Antenna Designe" NBS Technical Note 688,
1976, page. 6
2) Guenter Hoch, DL6WU, "Extremely Long Yagi Antennas ,VHF
Communications 3/82, pag.130
3) J.E. Pearson ,KF4JU, Element Lenght Disturbancies Due to End
Chamfering and Insulated Metal Boom" Proceedings of the 22nd
Conference of the Central States VHF Society.
4) J. Lawson,"Yagi Antenna Designe" ARRL 1? Edition 1986 ,
pages. 7-11
5) The ARRL UHF/Microwave Experimenter's Manual,ARRL
1990 pages. 9-5
6) R. Bertelsmeier, DJ9BV, "Yagi Antennas for 144 MHz DUBUS
1/1990 pag. 23
Have fun
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Ramirez" <russ.ramirez@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:46 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna element and Boom material
> >I am wondering about going from 1/4 inch tound elements to about 3/8 inch
> square
> >would effect the performance of this antenna.
>
> >Mike Hoblinski
>
> >N6IMF
>
> It definitely will Mike, but not in a positive/negative way per se. Let me
> explain.
>
> If you follow an optimized design that called for 1/4 inch round elements
> and substitute 3/8 in square tubing, the impedance and SWR bandwidth
> characteristics will change in the general sense, and these changes may or
> may not be desirable. I do not have the experience with LP antenna
> implementations that I do with Yagi or wire antennas, so perhaps there are
> other issues to consider. I would suspect that the low SWR points across
> the bands would simply shift. Changes in element diameters generally
> affects the electrical length, and in your example only a small amount.
>
> Russ
> K0WFS
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:51:46 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna element and Boom material
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two other things to remember also.
1- the antenna will probably cost more because everywhere i know of
square tubing is more costly than roung, but if you have a sourse OK,
2- the wind load will be much larger, 30% roughly larger, the wind load
of a 1 inch round tube is 0.6 the amount of a flat surface IE: square
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
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On 8/14/2013 8:24 PM, i8cvs wrote:
> Hi Mike, N6IMF
> Russ, K0WFS
> and All on the list
>
> Generally speaking, if the elements of a yagi antenna are mechanically
> mounted insulated over a metallic boom like a round or square aluminum
> boom than the effect of the boom is to SHORT the lenght of the elements.
>
> The same shortening effect affect the element lenght if the elements are
> mounted directly in contact over or inside the metallic boom.
>
> No matter if the boom is round or square the lenght of the elements
> will be shortened in comparison to mount the elements over a plastic
> insulated boom.
>
> The plastic material as used for the boom do not affect the elements lenght.
>
> BTW in your case if you mount the elements over the boom in the same
> manner as designed for 1/4 inch round elements than to change the size
> elements from round 1/4 inch to about 3/8 inch square will affect only
> a small amount the center resonance of the antenna at the working center
> frequency and hence his change in VSWR and performance will be
> very small.
>
> Please read the following references on this matter:
>
> 1)P. Viezbicke, "Yagi Antenna Designe" NBS Technical Note 688,
> 1976, page. 6
>
> 2) Guenter Hoch, DL6WU, "Extremely Long Yagi Antennas ,VHF
> Communications 3/82, pag.130
>
> 3) J.E. Pearson ,KF4JU, Element Lenght Disturbancies Due to End
> Chamfering and Insulated Metal Boom" Proceedings of the 22nd
> Conference of the Central States VHF Society.
>
> 4) J. Lawson,"Yagi Antenna Designe" ARRL 1? Edition 1986 ,
> pages. 7-11
>
> 5) The ARRL UHF/Microwave Experimenter's Manual,ARRL
> 1990 pages. 9-5
>
> 6) R. Bertelsmeier, DJ9BV, "Yagi Antennas for 144 MHz DUBUS
> 1/1990 pag. 23
>
> Have fun
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russ Ramirez" <russ.ramirez@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:46 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna element and Boom material
>
>
>>> I am wondering about going from 1/4 inch tound elements to about 3/8 inch
>> square
>>> would effect the performance of this antenna.
>>> Mike Hoblinski
>>> N6IMF
>> It definitely will Mike, but not in a positive/negative way per se. Let me
>> explain.
>>
>> If you follow an optimized design that called for 1/4 inch round elements
>> and substitute 3/8 in square tubing, the impedance and SWR bandwidth
>> characteristics will change in the general sense, and these changes may or
>> may not be desirable. I do not have the experience with LP antenna
>> implementations that I do with Yagi or wire antennas, so perhaps there are
>> other issues to consider. I would suspect that the low SWR points across
>> the bands would simply shift. Changes in element diameters generally
>> affects the electrical length, and in your example only a small amount.
>>
>> Russ
>> K0WFS
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:52:15 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Next Dragon Flight To Be In 2014
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http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/08/nasa-planners-switch-spacex-dragon-miss
ion-2014/
Meanwhile, testing of Dream Chaser continues:
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/08/14/watch-dream-chaser-roll-runway/
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:54:35 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New items at the online store
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Please check out the new items added to the AMSAT online store.
2013 Cap (grey)
2013 T-Shirt (black)
2013 Golf Shirt (pale light blue/greyish)
73...bruce
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:49:58 +0100 (BST)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Beacon experiment - signed photocards
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I've just received two handsome signed photocardss from Cosmonaut Roman
Romanenko via Tsniimash to commemmorate the Shadow Beacon experiment early
this year! They're on the front of my website.
Many thanks to Valentin and friends on the Experiment!
andy G0SFJ
http://www.andythomas.eu
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:34:36 -0500
From: damon runion <damonwa4hfn@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] D STAR AMSAT users net
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D Star Amsat users net tonight at
01;00 UTC on REF 60 B
Hope to see you there with news about grid trips new operators and
things you may want to sell or buy
Satellite news ?
https://sites.google.com/site/memphisdstar/d-satellite-amsat-net
Damon
WA4HFN em55
Memphis, TN
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:30:11 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jean-Pierre Godet <godetj@xxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [Sort of Off Topic] Non-Ham Satellites of
Interest
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Hello Bryce and everyone here,
Try "satellite frequency uhf" with your favorite search engine. There is
a lot of websites wich offer frequency lists, sometimes outdated. Many are
around 250 / 280 MHz, something like that.
First try a very easy, strong one, FORTE, on 401.568 MHz (+- 10 kHz of
Doppler shift) with the tle :
1 24920U 97047A 13226.13396630 .00000147 00000-0 85928-4 0 9728
2 24920 069.9555 142.7308 0022573 185.2601 174.8286 14.25669016830080
It sounds like the FSK modulation 4800 bps of the european radiosondes,
and as the frequecy is inside the 401 - 406 MHz radiosounding band this
often fooled the radioamateurs.
These last times there is no modulation, only a carrier, and FORTE looks
like in a stdby mode. I listened the modulated carrier on may 16th, but at
the beginning of june till now only an unmodulated carrier.
Try this one first. ;-)
73 !
J-P/F5YG
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Bryce Salmi wrote:
> This is more of a curious question to anyone with some knowledge of non-ham
> satellites (I know about the NOAA satellites though). Are there any
> satellites that would be worth tracking at taking a listen to with an Arrow
> handheld antenna and a Yeasu VX-8R (HT with AM/FM modes). This is simply my
> curiosity of what's up there.
>
>
> Bryce
> KB1LQC
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RIGHT NOW - ISS Expedition 36 In-Flight Educational Event with the
Riverside Preparatory High School in Oro Grande, CA - JSC.
Go to NASA TV right now!
Clint K6LCS
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