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Today's Topics:
1. Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing (Allen F. Mattis)
2. Re: Improving performance of packet communications through
the ISS (MM)
3. Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing (R.T.Liddy)
4. Video ? Amateur Radio FUNcube Satellites (M5AKA)
5. Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
6. Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing (Jim Walls)
7. Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing (Paul Stoetzer)
8. Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing (R.T.Liddy)
9. Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing (Gus)
10. Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
11. Item of interest IC-970H with 2.4 and 1.2 GHz modules
(Joe Leikhim)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:01:58 -0500
From: "Allen F. Mattis" <afmattis@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
Message-ID: <201306101902.r5AJ22Fl068377@xxxxx.xxx>
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On March 23, 2013 at the Greater Houston Hamfest I had my QSL cards
checked to upgrade my VUCC Satellite Award from 700 grid squares to
761 grid squares. I received the processed VUCC upgrade from the
ARRL today, June 10, 2013. The upgrade took 80 days to process. For
some reason a QSL card from XE1AY for a contact in EL10 was not
counted and the upgrade only took me up to 760 grid squares.
Also, I did not find a sticker for 750 grid squares in the envelope.
I paid by credit card and did not receive a statement of the costs
that were charged to my credit card. I surmise that the person who
processes the VUCC upgrades is probably over worked.
My personal feeling is that the ARRL VUCC award is a very worthwhile
award and that satellite operators should continue to participate in it.
Allen N5AFV
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:43:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: MM <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx>
To: les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx rogerkola@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Improving performance of packet communications
through the ISS
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Try adjusting for Doppler.
When the signals are strong over S3, should not have much of an issue
decoding intact packets.
However, if the signals are dipping below S3 and you are experience Doppler
greater than 2k, then you can improve your decoding performance by adjusting
for Doppler.
On 2 meters, ISS Doppler will be plus and minus up to 3.3 kHz.
For 2-Meter FM
Use three pre program channels with Odd-split frequencies stored in advance.
Set Channel #1 Receiving frequency plus 2k.
Set Channel #1 Transmitting frequency minus 2k.
Set Channel #2 Receiving frequency plus 0k. (No Doppler correction)
Set Channel #2 Transmitting frequency minus 0k. (No Doppler correction)
Set Channel #3 Receiving frequency minus 2k.
Set Channel #3 Transmitting frequency plus 2k.
During an ISS 9 minute pass. Use Channel #1 for the first 3 minutes.
Use Channel #2 for the Second group of 3 minutes.
Use Channel 3 for the last three minutes of the pass.
Icom 910H: This radio has a Blinking light that will tell you when your FM
receiver is Off frequency. It does not tell you if you are high or low.
If the light blinks while receiving Packet/Voice from ISS, then it?s time
to change channels.
With FM, you do not need to be exactly on frequency.
Some radios such as the Yasue FT736R have a FM Tuning center meter. The FM
center meter is great for tracking FM satellites. Too bad none of the
satellite radio manufactures sell this important feature any more.
--- On Mon, 6/10/13, rogerkola@xxx.xxx <rogerkola@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: rogerkola@xxx.xxx <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Improving performance of packet communications
through the ISS
> To: les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Monday, June 10, 2013, 8:46 AM
> Les...
>
> I forget the command...maybe PASSALL? Typically the default
> settings only display complete verified packets...I think if
> you turn it on it will display partial and unverified
> packets which allows you to see everything received even
> if? incomplete and can you can figure out the content.
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Mon, Jun 10, 2013 12:39 am
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Improving performance of packet
> communications through the ISS
>
>
> I've got my Icom IC-910H working with it's SignaLink
> interface, through
> Packet Engine Pro and UISS. I've been able to receive lots
> of stations
> through the ISS, and managed to have short QSOs with a
> couple. Fun!
>
> But I notice that this combination seems to do a poor job of
> decoding
> weak signals. I hear packets in the speaker that seem plenty
> strong
> enough to decode, but they don't show up on UISS.
>
> I'm wondering if I used a traditional TNC, such as a
> Kantronics unit, if
> I'd get better performance? Does anyone in the group have
> any experience
> along these lines? Or could someone provide other
> suggestions on how to
> improve my ability to communicate through the ISS?
>
> Thanks in advance. Having a ball on the birds.
> --
> --
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
>
> 6M VUCC #1712
> AMSAT #38965
> Grid Bandits #222
> Southeastern VHF Society
> Central States VHF Society Life Member
> Six Club #2484
>
> Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:08:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
Message-ID:
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That sure seems like a long time. And then, to have an error occur withthe
processing and no sticker and no credit card paperwork. Not very
goodattention to detail.
It sure makes using LoTW a much better way to go. It's a whole lot
faster(often a day or two for credit) and less human intervention and
possibilityfor errors.
Unfortunately, the percentage of operators using LoTW is not as high aswhat
fellow users would like. Overall, the ARRL figures show only about14% of QSO
records have been QSL'd. Wish there was better participation.
73, ? ?Bob K8BL?
--- On Mon, 6/10/13, Allen F. Mattis <afmattis@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
From: Allen F. Mattis <afmattis@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Date: Monday, June 10, 2013, 3:01 PM
On March 23, 2013 at the Greater Houston Hamfest I had my QSL cards checked
to upgrade my VUCC Satellite Award from 700 grid squares to 761 grid
squares.? I received the processed VUCC upgrade from the ARRL today, June
10, 2013. The upgrade took 80 days to process.? For some reason a QSL card
from XE1AY for a contact in EL10 was not counted and the upgrade only took
me up to 760 grid squares.
Also, I did not find a sticker for 750 grid squares in the envelope. I paid
by credit card and did not receive a statement of the costs that were
charged to my credit card.? I surmise that the person who processes the VUCC
upgrades is probably over worked.
My personal feeling is that the ARRL VUCC award is a very worthwhile award
and that satellite operators should continue to participate in it.
Allen N5AFV
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:15:53 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Video ? Amateur Radio FUNcube Satellites
Message-ID:
<1370898953.37749.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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AMSAT-UK representative Howard Long, G6LVB, in his presentation at the AMSAT
Forum at the 2013 Dayton Hamvention describes recent activities at AMSAT-UK.
See http://amsat-uk.org/2013/06/10/funcube-satellites-video
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73 Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK website http://amsat-uk.org/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AMSAT-UK/208113275898396
Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:21:56 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
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Hi!
That sure seems like a long time. And then, to have an error occur withthe
> processing and no sticker and no credit card paperwork. Not very
> goodattention to detail.
> It sure makes using LoTW a much better way to go. It's a whole lot
> faster(often a day or two for credit) and less human intervention and
> possibilityfor errors.
> Unfortunately, the percentage of operators using LoTW is not as high
> aswhat fellow users would like. Overall, the ARRL figures show only
> about14% of QSO records have been QSL'd. Wish there was better
> participation.
>
I have only used LoTW for my satellite VUCC applications. It took almost
4 months to get the initial certificate back in 2011. After that,
endorsements
filed through LoTW later in 2011 and in 2012 were processed quickly, but I
never received the proper endorsement stickers until I went back to ARRL
via e-mail and asked for them. For the 125-grid sticker, I received a 125-
grid 6m VUCC sticker. An e-mail to ARRL, and the 125-grd satellite VUCC
sticker was in my mailbox in a few days. I didn't get anything for the 150-
grid level, until I e-mailed ARRL to ask for it. Guess they don't see many
satellite VUCC applications and endorsements via LoTW.
I am now starting to go through my QSL cards to make a large endorsement
application for my satellite VUCC. This will add at least 300 more grids
to my
count, and will take a while to get everything in order. This was why I
started
out just using LoTW for my satellite VUCC. But, as N5AFV mentioned
earlier,
we satellite operators should file for this award. Even if all it does is
show ARRL
that we're out here.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:24:42 -0700
From: Jim Walls <jim@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
Message-ID: <51B6522A.9050301@xxxxx.xxx>
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On 6/10/2013 14:21, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote (in small part):
> But, as N5AFV mentioned earlier, we satellite operators should file
> for this award. Even if all it does is show ARRL that we're out here.
> 73! Patrick
I have not been satellite active for several years (mostly because of no
birds to actually talk through for more than 3 seconds at a time). LOTW
was fairly new when I stopped operating satellite, but at that time the
general comment from those that were using LOTW was that particularly
for satellite operations, LOTW was such a pain to use, and really did
not support satellite ops without putting in incorrect data (it did not
understand our cross band operation or that there are actually more than
one satellite in use). Maybe someone who is using it currently can
advise if works better for satellite operations now. One of these days
I will get back on the birds, but I do have several thousand satellite
QSOs that I could log from years back if there were really any reason to
do so.
--
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@xxxxx.xxx
Ofc: 818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:34:11 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
Message-ID: <51B65463.4070607@xxxx.xxx>
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Jim,
LoTW works fine as long as the ADIF fields for propagation mode and
satellite are properly filled with "SAT" and the satellite abbreviation,
respectively. Satellite QSOs show up properly for WAS Satellite, VUCC
Satellite, and DXCC Satellite.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On 6/10/2013 6:24 PM, Jim Walls wrote:
> On 6/10/2013 14:21, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote (in small
> part):
>
>> But, as N5AFV mentioned earlier, we satellite operators should file
>> for this award. Even if all it does is show ARRL that we're out here.
>> 73! Patrick
>
>
> I have not been satellite active for several years (mostly because of
> no birds to actually talk through for more than 3 seconds at a time).
> LOTW was fairly new when I stopped operating satellite, but at that
> time the general comment from those that were using LOTW was that
> particularly for satellite operations, LOTW was such a pain to use,
> and really did not support satellite ops without putting in incorrect
> data (it did not understand our cross band operation or that there are
> actually more than one satellite in use). Maybe someone who is using
> it currently can advise if works better for satellite operations now.
> One of these days I will get back on the birds, but I do have several
> thousand satellite QSOs that I could log from years back if there were
> really any reason to do so.
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:49:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
Message-ID:
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Jim....
LoTW works just fine for SAT QSO's now. As long the ADIF filefor your
operations is filled-out correctly.
73/GL, ? ?Bob K8BL
--- On Mon, 6/10/13, Jim Walls <jim@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
From: Jim Walls <jim@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Date: Monday, June 10, 2013, 6:24 PM
On 6/10/2013 14:21, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote (in small part):
> But, as N5AFV mentioned earlier, we satellite operators should file for
this award. Even if all it does is show ARRL that we're out here. 73! Patrick
I have not been satellite active for several years (mostly because of no
birds to actually talk through for more than 3 seconds at a time).? LOTW was
fairly new when I stopped operating satellite, but at that time the general
comment from those that were using LOTW was that particularly for satellite
operations, LOTW was such a pain to use, and really did not support
satellite ops without putting in incorrect data (it did not understand our
cross band operation or that there are actually more than one satellite in
use).? Maybe someone who is using it currently can advise if works better
for satellite operations now.? One of these days I will get back on the
birds, but I do have several thousand satellite QSOs that I could log from
years back if there were really any reason to do so.
-- 73
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Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@xxxxx.xxx
Ofc:? 818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:56:40 -0400
From: Gus <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
Message-ID: <51B683D8.7000504@xxxx.xxx>
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On 06/10/2013 06:24 PM, Jim Walls wrote:
> I have not been satellite active for several years (mostly because of
> no birds to actually talk through for more than 3 seconds at a time).
Ditto.
> LOTW was fairly new when I stopped operating satellite, but at that
> time the general comment from those that were using LOTW was that
> particularly for satellite operations, LOTW was such a pain to use,
> and really did not support satellite ops without putting in incorrect
> data (it did not understand our cross band operation or that there are
> actually more than one satellite in use). Maybe someone who is using
> it currently can advise if works better for satellite operations now.
As far as I can figure out, all LOTW does is make it easier/faster to
apply for awards that I'm not even slightly interested in applying for,
while guaranteeing that I'll never get a 'real' QSL card for the
contact. While I'm not really a collector of cards, I QSL in reply 100%
(green stamp appreciated but NOT necessary) and it IS nice to have that
concrete reminder of a QSO. Whereas the only award I've ever applied
for is the ZRO, and you can't even do that any more.
--
73, de Gus 8P6SM
Barbados, the easternmost isle.
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:52:11 -0500
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
Message-ID: <BAY173-DS116C1E69BFA8A76AB671408A850@xxx.xxx>
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I have used LOTW with satellite contacts for several years. I even uploaded
my old contacts back into the 80's.
I do not know what issues you may have had, but it works great for me. It
is seamless with most logging programs. Just click and the contacts are
uploaded!
I use n3fjp's ACLog.
73,
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Jim Walls
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:25 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Timing on VUCC Upgrade Processing
On 6/10/2013 14:21, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote (in small part):
> But, as N5AFV mentioned earlier, we satellite operators should file
> for this award. Even if all it does is show ARRL that we're out here.
> 73! Patrick
I have not been satellite active for several years (mostly because of no
birds to actually talk through for more than 3 seconds at a time). LOTW
was fairly new when I stopped operating satellite, but at that time the
general comment from those that were using LOTW was that particularly
for satellite operations, LOTW was such a pain to use, and really did
not support satellite ops without putting in incorrect data (it did not
understand our cross band operation or that there are actually more than
one satellite in use). Maybe someone who is using it currently can
advise if works better for satellite operations now. One of these days
I will get back on the birds, but I do have several thousand satellite
QSOs that I could log from years back if there were really any reason to
do so.
--
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@xxxxx.xxx
Ofc: 818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:57:22 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx "flwss@xxxxx.xxxx <flwss@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Item of interest IC-970H with 2.4 and 1.2 GHz
modules
Message-ID: <51B6A022.2040201@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I have no interest in this auction other than to bring it to attention
of the group.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ICOM-IC-970H-VHF-UHF-ALL-MODE-TRANSCEIVER-/18115211585
2?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Transceivers&hash=item2a2d81ec8c
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
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