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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Field ISS contacts, any interest? (Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa)
2. Re: a cheap LEO tracker for single op (Bill Acito)
3. Lost CAT Data on SATPC32 (Les Rayburn)
4. Re: a cheap LEO tracker for single op (Erich Eichmann)
5. Re: HamSatDroid 0.9 (David Johnson)
6. Help regarding Kenwood Ts200 setup (Aayush Yadav)
7. Re: Field ISS contacts, any interest? (Adrian Engele)
8. IARU position on nanosatellites and picosatellites Resolution
757 (M5AKA)
9. Satellite ship "Cosmonaut Viktor Patsaev" (andy thomas)
10. CUSAT Pulse Plasma Thruster Satellites (M5AKA)
11. Re: Field ISS contacts, any interest? (Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa)
12. Problems with SATPC32 CAT (Les Rayburn)
13. Re: International Space Station-Bounce on 1296 MHz (i8cvs)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 20:39:30 -0400
From: "Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa" <co7wt@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field ISS contacts, any interest?
Message-ID: <51A54E42.7090003@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi to all.
Forgive my ignorance/lack of internet but, when is the FD?
At this moment ISS packet is the only way of satellite contacs for me
here in FL11 grid.
Depending on the answer I can make a schedule with you and others...
73
El 28/05/13 17:07, Adrian Engele escribi?:
> Greetings,
>
> I am making preparations for the K9MOT Motorola Solutions Amateur Radio
Club Field Day setup. I plan to operate the satellite station once again and
give demos as I have done in the past few years.
>
> Hopefully, I can get the gremlins out that have popped up during the past
few FD's. I am interested in demoing packet through the ISS, assuming it
will be in packet mode this year.
>
> I know all stations are limited to one ISS contact. I am curious how many
other FD stations are planning to make a packet contact and would it be
worth the trouble?
>
>
> See you on the birds at Field Day! Please give K9MOT a shout should you
hear us. Have fun!
>
>
> 73, Adrian AA5UK
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 22:57:02 -0400
From: Bill Acito <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxxx <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "hawat1@xxxxx.xxxx
<hawat1@xxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: a cheap LEO tracker for single op
Message-ID: <BAY157-W22A6555EDCBF0F997AAE7798900@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Yeah, mine is a 8Fxxxx unit --- just missed it. I actually have the
replacement uProcessor for it (bought years ago), but I won't get it
soldered in in time. Anyone know if running the rig from the computer is
"non-functional" or just "a bit crippled" if I don't have the bi-directional
CAT link?
When AO-40 was up, I ran 2002 FD with an 847, a primestar dish sitting on
the ground, and a 432 11-element beam on a camera tripod... no computer,
not even logging. Took a bit to get a system down, but it worked fine.
Obviously, the doppler dynamics from a HEO 8 hour pass is a different animal
than the doppler from a 8 minute LEO pass. The rotor control, even just
single axis, will give me control in one sitting position -- the rotor
control, VFO, RIT/XIT, mic and pen all in front of me; especially since it
may be only me. That's all the real automation I need.
As someone stated, I have certainly done enough hand-held FM LEO work with
the Arrow and a FT530 to know it's a matter of practice and getting a system
down.
Bob, thank you for reposting. I had saved some of the articles as pdfs for
my own reference years ago; good to see them back on line.
Bill W1PA
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 18:51:39 -0500
From: kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: hawat1@xxxxx.xxxx w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: a cheap LEO tracker for single op
Guys, in his FIRST post he mentioned he had a very early FT-847.
The early FT-847's did NOT support two-way CAT communication for frequency
and mode. You could command the radio, but it lacked the capability to
report the frequency back to the control software.
Yaesu modified the radios, but that was a long time agao, and if the radio
didn't get modified then, you're out of luck as there are no more parts.
The change over point is somewhere in the 8G05xxxx range.
73, Jim KQ6EA
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 22:32:53 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lost CAT Data on SATPC32
Message-ID: <51A576E5.1090802@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Taking some advice from the group today, I closed SATPC32 and opened
SATPCISS in an attempt to monitor a morning pass. When I reopened
SATPC32, I noticed that I had no satellites listed in my group, the
countdown program did not launch, etc.
Further examination revealed that all frequency data was missing in the
CAT window too. I tried restarting the computer, downloading new KEP
data, etc. Nothing seemed to work.
Any ideas?
--
--
73,
Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf
6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life Member
Six Club #2484
Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 07:42:40 +0200
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
To: "Bill \(W1PA\)" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: a cheap LEO tracker for single op
Message-ID: <6E02B1E6104141CF98ABC1BBE4403218@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Bill,
the older FT-847 (I don't know up to which serial number) didn't allow to
poll the VFO frequency. As I understand your mail ("predated bi-directional
CAT") you have such older model. CAT control with FM sats should work,
because SatPC32 doesn't poll the VFO but only sets the frequency.
With SSB sats it will also work, but you can tune the radio around the
passband only with the 5 up/down controls or the keyboard. If you tune it
with the VFO knob the program will restore the previous frequencies with the
next Doppler correction.bcause it can't read the frequency change you made
with the knob.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill (W1PA)" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:54 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] a cheap LEO tracker for single op
> Again, thinking to FD...
>
> - My FT-847 predates bi-directional CAT i.e. no computer assisted Doppler
> - I may be the only one at the station i.e. no helper to man the antenna
> (Arrow), so I may need to do everything.
> - assume the transponder LEO birds
>
> Has anyone tried this?:
>
> 1) mount a standard TV antenna horizontal
> 2) align the horizontal rotor axis 90 deg to the orbit
> tilt (inclination?) of the intended bird (so if the
> bird went directly overhead, a beam mounted on the mast would track)
> 3) but, mount the antenna on the horizontal mast such that it can be set
> tilted off the mast
> 0 to 90 degs to the mast axis (from horizon to zenith, and in practice
> set it to the maximum elevation of the intended pass)
> 4) operation: set the rotator (in 2) and aim the beam to the AOS
> point of the pass (in 3), pan the orbit remotely from the operator
> position.
> 5) the rotator axis and angle of the beam to mast would have to be set for
> each pass.
>
> Do-able?
>
> Bill W1PA
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:47:38 +0100
From: David Johnson <dave@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
Graham Shirville <graham@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Barry A. Baines"
<bbaines@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HamSatDroid 0.9
Message-ID: <51A5C0AA.3080007@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi,
I just had an email from Google Play support and I can't issue 0.9 as it
needs the original authors signing key.
I am (with the approval of AMSAT) going to move it to AmsatDroid 1.0 as
a fund raising app.
73
- Dave
On 29/05/13 00:01, Clayton Coleman wrote:
> Dave,
>
> I appreciate your updates. I'm looking forward to a donation-ware
> version incorporating some of the user-suggested features. In the
> mean time I will attempt an upgrade to 0.9 tomorrow.
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:40 PM, David A B Johnson <dave@xxxxx.xx.xx
> <mailto:dave@xxxxx.xx.xx>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> FYI, the app has been temporarily removed from the Google Play
> Store while I reload it with the
> new signing key.
>
> Should be back tomorrow.
>
> Will post another message when it's back.
>
> The info site is still up:
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/hamsatdroid/
>
> 73
>
> - Dave, G4DPZ
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:10:54 +0530
From: Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Help regarding Kenwood Ts200 setup
Message-ID:
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HI all,
I am using Kenwood ts2000 for data reciecving purposes from the satellite.
'But i am not able to set it up accordingly kindly help.
Regards,
Aayush Yadav,
Pratham- Student Satellite,
Indian institute of Technology Bombay.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 04:06:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adrian Engele <aa5uk@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa" <co7wt@xxxxxx.xx.xx>,
"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field ISS contacts, any interest?
Message-ID:
<1369825590.33951.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Pavel,
Field Day is June 22-33 this year. See: http://www.arrl.org/field-day
I know one year I heard some voice activity during FD. If there is no voice
activity, then perhaps we can use it to make a packet contact.
The Motorola Solutions Amateur Radio club will be operating K9MOT from EN52.
Let's see what the ISS will do once we get closer to Field Day.
73, Adrian AA5UK
>________________________________
> From: Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa <co7wt@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
>To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:39 PM
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field ISS contacts, any interest?
>
>
>Hi to all.
>
>Forgive my ignorance/lack of internet but, when is the FD?
>
>At this moment ISS packet is the only way of satellite contacs for me
>here in FL11 grid.
>
>Depending on the answer I can make a schedule with you and others...
>
>73
>
>El 28/05/13 17:07, Adrian Engele escribi?:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I am making preparations for the K9MOT Motorola Solutions Amateur Radio
Club Field Day setup. I plan to operate the satellite station once again and
give demos as I have done in the past few years.
>>
>> Hopefully, I can get the gremlins out that have popped up during the past
few FD's.? I am interested in demoing packet through the ISS, assuming it
will be in packet mode this year.
>>
>> I know all stations are limited to one ISS contact. I am curious how many
other FD stations are planning to make a packet contact and would it be
worth the trouble?
>>
>>
>> See you on the birds at Field Day! Please give K9MOT a shout should you
hear us. Have fun!
>>
>>
>> 73, Adrian AA5UK
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>_______________________________________________
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>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 12:55:27 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] IARU position on nanosatellites and picosatellites
Resolution 757
Message-ID:
<1369828527.15483.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
In preparation for WRC-15 the IARU has announced its position on Resolution
757 (WRC-12) and other agenda items relating to the Amateur Satellite
Service, see
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/29/iaru-nanosats-and-cubesats-resolution-757/
Also on the website:
UK Amateur Radio Consultations (2300-2400 MHz, 3400 to 3410 MHz)
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/29/uk-amateur-radio-consultations/
The American University in Cairo AUC CubeSat
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/26/the-american-university-in-cairo-auc-cubesat
----
73 Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK website http://amsat-uk.org/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AMSAT-UK/208113275898396
Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 13:42:04 +0100 (BST)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite ship "Cosmonaut Viktor Patsaev"
Message-ID:
<1369831324.88866.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
I am just back from Kaliningrad (Russia) where I was able to visit the
Russian satellite communication ship, "Cosmonaut Viktor Patsaev". They
opened up the ship for me although I wasn't allowed into the laboratory
because although the ship is moored in a museum it is still in use.
However I was allowed onto the decks to photograph the antennae and they
knew I was a radio ham. So I photographed the antennae and measured what I
could.
My report is on my website http://www.andythomas.eu? - it's downloadable
from the bottom of the first page. All errors are my own. I hope you find it
interesting.
73 de andy g0sfj
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 14:43:40 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] CUSAT Pulse Plasma Thruster Satellites
Message-ID:
<1369835020.72974.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
CUSAT-1/2 are planning a SpaceX launch currently slated for July 9, 2013,
along with Cassiope and Dande, from Vandenberg into a 1500 by 325 km 80
degree inclination orbit. The satellite has a 2 watt packet radio
transmitter and carries Pulse Plasma Thrusters (PPT) which can raise or
lower the orbit.
See http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/29/cusat-ppt-satellites/
----
73 Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK website http://amsat-uk.org/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AMSAT-UK/208113275898396
Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:58:08 -0400
From: "Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa" <co7wt@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Adrian Engele <aa5uk@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field ISS contacts, any interest?
Message-ID: <51A61780.6020500@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi Adrian, thanks for the date and link,
I will be from time to time in the ISS packet passes, will be more often
as we approaching the FD date.
I will be mainly in non-work hours (from aprox 2000Z-2300Z to 0040Z) and
weekends, is anyone want to tests his setup with me prior to FD just
drop me an email...
Last couple of passes I try to work with the ericsson radio feel like
less responsive/sensitive, I think it's for the less power from the ISS.
Working conditions here is a J-pole for 2m with AH LDF-4 low loss coax
to the radio and 20W, software Soundmodem from Thomas Sailer in Ubuntu
12.04 and Xastir.
73
El 29/05/13 07:06, Adrian Engele escribi?:
> Pavel,
>
> Field Day is June 22-33 this year. See: http://www.arrl.org/field-day
> I know one year I heard some voice activity during FD. If there is no
> voice activity, then perhaps we can use it to make a packet contact.
>
> The Motorola Solutions Amateur Radio club will be operating K9MOT from
> EN52. Let's see what the ISS will do once we get closer to Field Day.
>
> 73, Adrian AA5UK
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa <co7wt@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
> *To:* amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:39 PM
> *Subject:* [amsat-bb] Re: Field ISS contacts, any interest?
>
> Hi to all.
>
> Forgive my ignorance/lack of internet but, when is the FD?
>
> At this moment ISS packet is the only way of satellite contacs for me
> here in FL11 grid.
>
> Depending on the answer I can make a schedule with you and others...
>
> 73
>
> El 28/05/13 17:07, Adrian Engele escribi?:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I am making preparations for the K9MOT Motorola Solutions Amateur
> Radio Club Field Day setup. I plan to operate the satellite station
> once again and give demos as I have done in the past few years.
> >
> > Hopefully, I can get the gremlins out that have popped up during
> the past few FD's. I am interested in demoing packet through the
> ISS, assuming it will be in packet mode this year.
> >
> > I know all stations are limited to one ISS contact. I am curious
> how many other FD stations are planning to make a packet contact and
> would it be worth the trouble?
> >
> >
> > See you on the birds at Field Day! Please give K9MOT a shout
> should you hear us. Have fun!
> >
> >
> > 73, Adrian AA5UK
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.>
> Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.> Opinions
> expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 13:19:40 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Problems with SATPC32 CAT
Message-ID: <51A646BC.8020804@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I've continued to try to troubleshoot the problem with no success. I
checked and the DopplerSQF file appears to be entact. Read the manual
and searched the FAQ but can't find any reason why I'd be "missing" the
data in the CAT field.
If I select an alternative configuration, the program seems to work
fine, but that causes me to lose my settings and have to begin
all over again.
Any ideas?
--
--
73,
Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf
6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life Member
Six Club #2484
Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 20:44:23 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa" <co7wt@xxxxxx.xx.xx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <andreas@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: International Space Station-Bounce on 1296 MHz
Message-ID: <000001ce5c9d$ecc6de80$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Pavel ,CO7WT
>From info received belove by Trevor M5AKA we know that
DJ5AR was using a 3m dish (29 dB gain) and 200 watts at the
dish feed.
If 200 W is the RF power arriving at the dish feed without
losses in the feed line my calculation shows:
29 dB is equivalent to 29 dB isotropic gain so that the
isotropic power ratio is 10^2.9 = 794.328 time in power.
The EIRP ( Effective Isotropic Radiated Power) is :
200 W x 794.328 = 158865.647 watt = 159 kW (rounded)
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ing. Pavel Milanes Costa" <co7wt@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:20 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: International Space Station-Bounce on 1296 MHz
WOW !
From my modest EIRP calculation via the handbook that will be about
129130 W (129KW) (some error included...)
That's a huge power...
73
El 28/05/13 04:13, M5AKA escribi?:
> --- On Tue, 28/5/13, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
>> Do you know the EIRP used at 1296 MHz by DJ5AR or by
>> PA3FXB
>
> Hi Domenico,
>
> DJ5AR was using a 3m dish (29 dB gain) and 200 watts, PA3FXB also had a 3m
> dish but I don't know the power > output.
>
> They each have a report on the QSO in the 432 and Above EME Newsletter
>
> http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/NLD/eme0713.pdf
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
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