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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Norm on FO-29 and VUCC/DXCC Credit (Hector, CO6CBF)
   2. Re: Norm on FO-29 and VUCC/DXCC Credit (Les Rayburn)
   3. Hector, CO6CBF Saves the Day! (Les Rayburn)
   4.  Hector, CO6CBF Saves the Day! (Hector, CO6CBF)
   5. Worked  N3YKF/OA4 in FH1 For Real This Time! (Les Rayburn)
   6. Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on tornadoin
      Oklahoma and Texas (Samudra Haque)
   7. TURKSAT-3USAT status? (Mike Herr)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:46:51 -0400
From: "Hector, CO6CBF" <co6cbf@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Norm on FO-29 and VUCC/DXCC Credit
Message-ID: <000d01ce58c8$d558e780$800ab680$@xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hello Les!

I worked Norm right before you. I heard and recorded your QSO. Despite your
modulation was a little distorted, you completed the contact successfully.

I will send the recording in a separate email.

Thanks very much to Norm for all the new grids!!!

73!

Hector, CO6CBF



-----Mensaje original-----
De: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx En nombre
de Les Rayburn
Enviado el: viernes, 24 de mayo de 2013 14:13
Para: AMSAT Mailing List
Asunto: [amsat-bb] Norm on FO-29 and VUCC/DXCC Credit

I should have spelled out in my earlier e-mail that I'm not even going
to think about QSLing Norm,  N3YKF/OA4 in FM18 for VUCC or DXCC credit
unless I'm fortunate
enough to work him again before he leaves Peru.

I prefer to earn 'em fair and square or not at all. Just thought it was
a funny story that other operators might enjoy. And I wanted to note his
callsign in case I heard him on the
birds again.

It seems a lot of operators use a digital audio recorder for logging,
especially those who operate handheld. Lesson learned, check all
connections before the pass begins! Ha, Ha.
Thanks for helping to solve the mystery and sorry for any confusion.

--
--
73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life Member
Six Club #2484

Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:00:35 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Hector, CO6CBF" <co6cbf@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Norm on FO-29 and VUCC/DXCC Credit
Message-ID: <519FE303.2050804@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hector,

Thank you so much my friend for your act of kindness! That is really
amazing that you would go out of your way for me like this.

Please let me know if I can ever do anything to return the favor or help
you out with your amateur radio career. You're always one
of the most consistent operators on the birds, and it's a pleasure to
hear someone so passionate about the hobby.

73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF



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On 5/24/2013 4:46 PM, Hector, CO6CBF wrote:
> Hello Les!
>
> I worked Norm right before you. I heard and recorded your QSO. Despite your
> modulation was a little distorted, you completed the contact successfully.
>
> I will send the recording in a separate email.
>
> Thanks very much to Norm for all the new grids!!!
>
> 73!
>
> Hector, CO6CBF
>
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx En nombre
> de Les Rayburn
> Enviado el: viernes, 24 de mayo de 2013 14:13
> Para: AMSAT Mailing List
> Asunto: [amsat-bb] Norm on FO-29 and VUCC/DXCC Credit
>
> I should have spelled out in my earlier e-mail that I'm not even going
> to think about QSLing Norm,  N3YKF/OA4 in FM18 for VUCC or DXCC credit
> unless I'm fortunate
> enough to work him again before he leaves Peru.
>
> I prefer to earn 'em fair and square or not at all. Just thought it was
> a funny story that other operators might enjoy. And I wanted to note his
> callsign in case I heard him on the
> birds again.
>
> It seems a lot of operators use a digital audio recorder for logging,
> especially those who operate handheld. Lesson learned, check all
> connections before the pass begins! Ha, Ha.
> Thanks for helping to solve the mystery and sorry for any confusion.
>



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:14:43 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hector, CO6CBF Saves the Day!
Message-ID: <519FE653.2010001@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Talk about someone demonstrating the amateur spirit! Hector Martinez,
CHARLIE-OSCAR-SIX-CHARLIE-BRAVO-FLORIDA swooped in like Superman this
afternoon sending me a complete audio recording of last night's SO-59
pass, including my
QSO with Norm, N3YKF/OA4 in FH18.

Not only did it rescue my own failed logging recording, but it allowed
me to hear my distorted audio first-hand, and hopefully
will allow me to troubleshoot the problem before the next pass.

Hector--I can't thank you enough for your act of kindness. I know that
you're one of the most popular operators on the birds, and
I can certainly see why. Please let me know if I can return the favor
somehow.

Thanks also to Norm for sticking with the QSO through my audio
distortion issues. This kind of attitude is why I love operating in the
world above 50 MHz..just seem to find a better class of operator.
Friendlier too.

--
--
73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life Member
Six Club #2484

Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 21:52:54 -0400
From: "Hector, CO6CBF" <co6cbf@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Hector, CO6CBF Saves the Day!
Message-ID: <001301ce58ea$96e4ed60$c4aec820$@xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Les,

I am more than happy to help you!!!

It is more than interchange grids and work new countries; the AMSAT
community is like a big family.

Satellites are always fascinating!

73!

Hector, CO6CBF

-----Mensaje original-----
De: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx En nombre
de Les Rayburn
Enviado el: viernes, 24 de mayo de 2013 18:15
Para: AMSAT Mailing List
Asunto: [amsat-bb] Hector, CO6CBF Saves the Day!

Talk about someone demonstrating the amateur spirit! Hector Martinez,
CHARLIE-OSCAR-SIX-CHARLIE-BRAVO-FLORIDA swooped in like Superman this
afternoon sending me a complete audio recording of last night's SO-59
pass, including my
QSO with Norm, N3YKF/OA4 in FH18.

Not only did it rescue my own failed logging recording, but it allowed
me to hear my distorted audio first-hand, and hopefully
will allow me to troubleshoot the problem before the next pass.

Hector--I can't thank you enough for your act of kindness. I know that
you're one of the most popular operators on the birds, and
I can certainly see why. Please let me know if I can return the favor
somehow.

Thanks also to Norm for sticking with the QSO through my audio
distortion issues. This kind of attitude is why I love operating in the
world above 50 MHz..just seem to find a better class of operator.
Friendlier too.

--
--
73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life Member
Six Club #2484

Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 23:10:08 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Worked  N3YKF/OA4 in FH1 For Real This Time!
Message-ID: <51A039A0.2090205@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Thankfully, the Space Gods smiled on me, and allowed me to catch Norm on
another pass of FO-29 tonight from Lima, Peru. This time without audio
distortion on my signal, Norm was able to answer me on the first call.
We exchanged grid squares, complete calls, and my grateful thanks for
his efforts to work me again.

This is DXCC #3 on Satellites, and my 41st grid since starting about a
month ago. What thrill--like being a novice all over again.

Now gotta get a desense filter for Mode J, and a computer controlled
rotor going--small steps to improve the station.

Thanks again, Hector, David, Norm and others who helped me troubleshoot
the audio problem, and nail down Norm
before he had to leave.



--
--
73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life Member
Six Club #2484

Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 01:04:59 -0400
From: Samudra Haque <samudra.haque@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
tornadoin Oklahoma and Texas
Message-ID:
<CAJEM475nrytBLAcCnu3DhLBR+j0m4=ZuNkE673+GpjztRWeouw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

i8CVS Domenico, I found this news article showing satellite remote sensing
photos of the affected area:
http://nation.time.com/2013/05/23/before-and-after-the-tornado-satellite-shots
-of-moore/?hpt=hp_bn18

The key issue is that this was taken with a space asset having a sensor
(imaging device) of a particular focal length and resolution that would
allow such images. Not all small satellites, or cubesats, have that
capability - but they can be developed and launched fairly quickly. The
bigger question is, can it be done with a GEO platform, as opposed to a
vastly more challenging LEO platform, in the time required for "damage"
assessment or "search and .." rescue, and "search and .." recover
operations, given that not all LEO spacecraft are  in the correct orbit
when they are required. And even if we assume a spacecraft had the ability
to change orbit, which only a select few have, the coordination of that
change may be impossible to arrange. ... that is, unless one were dealing
with a constellation (e.g., walker) of remote sensing platforms that could
be tasked with imaging from various orbital planes ... So the problem is
complex, and the answer, as always, unfortunately ... is ... "it depends".

That doesn't mean future missions will don't have a way. My own research
will produce affordable microthrusters for small satellites soon, which
will allow limited mobility if a program manager so desires, so ask me in a
few months. It would be great to hear from managers who have an idea of
what thruster performance levels they require (time/duration/delta
vee/mode) so we could investigate definition of  common requirements, at
George Washington University's Micropropulsion Lab.
https://www.mpnl.seas.gwu.edu/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layou
t=blog&id=16&Itemid=124;
Questions? Ask me directly.

And Domenico, thank you again for your help in past years in modeling sat
comm projects.


73 de N3RDX
Samudra
Washington, DC


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Nice!
>
> Point well made.
>
> Stefan, Ve4NSA
>
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:43 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > > subject matter for a journal or symposium paper
> >
> > It's a bit dated now since I wrote it in 2008 for a Symposium paper
> > and it was reprinted in CQ VHF magazine ... I wrote a paper about
> > satellites in EMCOM:
> >
> > I still have a copy stashed at:
> > http://home.comcast.net/~k9jkm/CQVHF_Eagle_ACP_Emcomm.pdf
> >
> > This paper assumes a few things like we have an Eagle Phase IV GEO
> > satellite. It is written to tie multiple components of a national
> > level incident command system response up to being able to allow
> > several incidents to communicate with a unified command at a national
> > level. While the intrepid ham with HT and go=pack is key to local
> > emergency response a GEO satellite wasn't what was needed to call in
> > tornado reports within the county.
> >
> > Now Clayton can really sleep better after reading this! Probably fall
> > asleep reading it, but ahem, I digress ...
> >
> > --
> > 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> > k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
> >
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 15:01:15 -0700
From: Mike Herr <wa6ara@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] TURKSAT-3USAT status?
Message-ID:
<CAJrga+Vwr7YTi7F8ofQSivB-jAxomwnRgciifnjc92WtU1BKhw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

So, anyone know the status of TURKSAT-3USAT?

--
Mike Herr
WA6ARA
DM-15dp
Home of The QRP Ranch


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