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Today's Topics:

   1. storm emergencies (jerry keeton)
   2. Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
   3. Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker (Wayne Estes)
   4. Office Closed (Martha)
   5. Sat for emergency use (Robert C. Campbell)
   6. Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker (Dave W?DHB)
   7. Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker (Mike Sprenger)
   8. Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on tornadoin
      Oklahoma and Texas (i8cvs)
   9. Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on tornadoin
      Oklahoma and Texas (Stefan Wagener)
  10. Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on tornadoin
      Oklahoma and Texas (Clayton Coleman)
  11. Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on tornadoin
      Oklahoma and Texas (JoAnne Maenpaa)
  12. Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on tornadoin
      Oklahoma and Texas (Stefan Wagener)
  13. Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker (Les Rayburn)
  14. Re: Question about HamTV (Greg D)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 14:09:03 -0500
From: "jerry keeton" <jkboxk@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] storm emergencies
Message-ID: <F7D7DD85A9D340A0B8C7F0D4090F1FA9@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Actually I can see where a store and forward mailbox could benefit storm
related messaging from a satellite . My 2 cents .
Jerry WB5LHD

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 21:19:03 +0200
From: PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker
Message-ID: <362d8159a9febcce7f2756de532fe140@xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Hi Les (and others)

I haven't used 6.0 but almost every version before that.

When you just want to listen to the sats, it is a great peace of
software
but when you also want to transmit via the sats and be able to control
your
uplink via de software, then my experience is, that is a pain to work
with
the VFO sliders.

If they would change the way the frequency can be changed I would use
it more
often.

Now, after trying them all (Nova, Orbitron WXtrack, etc etc),
SatPC32 is my preferred software for working the Sats.

73 Jan PE0SAT


On 23-05-2013 19:26, Les Rayburn wrote:
> New to the birds, and using SATPC32 to control my Icom IC-910H. Also
> use Nova to help me better visualize the path that satellites will
> take. Rotor is still controlled manually,
> though I may move to change that once the family budget will allow.
>
> Haven't noticed much traffic or discussion on the air with anyone
> using Ham Radio Deluxe's "Satellite Tracker" software. I'm wondering
> if other operators have used
> the software, and what your impressions were.
>
>
> --
> --
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
>
> 6M VUCC #1712
> AMSAT #38965
> Grid Bandits #222
> Southeastern VHF Society
> Central States VHF Society Life Member
> Six Club #2484
>
> Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

--
With regards PE0SAT
Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 12:26:08 -0700
From: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker
Message-ID: <519E6D50.2040604@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

N1LF wrote:

New to the birds, and using SATPC32 to control my Icom IC-910H. Also use
Nova to help me better visualize the path that satellites will take.

W9AE replies:

How is Nova's ground track display better than the one in SatPC32, which
displays the ground track of the next orbit?

Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, Oregon, USA,CN83ik


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 16:34:52 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Board of Directors <bod@xxxxx.xxx>,
senior-officers <senior-officers@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
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The AMSAT office will be closed on Friday, May 24th and Monday, May 27th.
I will be going to the Jersey shore with my family.  I'll see the damage
from Sandy that hit Long Beach Island where my nephew has a house.
--
73- Martha


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 16:45:36 -0400
From: "Robert C. Campbell" <kb3pmr@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat for emergency use
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I am not sure that I would count any Satellite out when it comes to
emergency use... especially if I lived in some remote part of India. Or any
where else that was remote. I think Gilligan and the Skipper would agree
with me. That this resource may not have been used for this purpose at this
point does not mean that it won"t in the future. Me, I will sleep better
tonight knowing I have the option. kb3pmr


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 15:20:56 -0600
From: Dave W?DHB <dave@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT Mailing List'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker
Message-ID: <002a01ce57fb$69feb0f0$3dfc12d0$@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Les

I'm using HRD 6.0 SAT Tracker/HRD Rotator as well as SATPC32, predominately
HRD SAT Tracker.
In fact, I was using SAT Tracker when you and I QSO'd  5/20  on SO-50 .

I use them in conjunction with my Flex 5000A  / EA4TX rotator controller/
G5500 rotator.

I am only using SAT Tracker and SATPC32 for TX/RX Doppler control as neither
product has adequate support for other Flex 5000 Rig control functions IMHO
.

I have written software which intercepts CAT commands coming from either
program and I only pass on doppler tuning info through to the Rig.
The same software allows me to do other required Rig control functions:
-TX
-TX/RX calibration for transponder satellites
-RIT
-Transmit power adjust
-Satellite specific controls-TX/RX mode, tones, reset SO-50 timer,
etc.
I also have provided support for my TS-2000 and IC-9100 in the software.
My preference for SAT Tracker is primarily because I like the user interface
better.

Some caveats on using HRD 6.0 SAT Tracker/HRD Rotator natively with any
supported rig:
HRD Rotator does not play nicely with Rotators with a south stop
(Yaesu-5400), you can make it work, but software azimuth readout is 180 deg
off
HRD SAT Tracker does not support transponders of the "Non-inverting type"
(like AO-7 mode A)

Dave W0DHB



-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Les Rayburn
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:26 AM
To: AMSAT Mailing List
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker

New to the birds, and using SATPC32 to control my Icom IC-910H. Also use
Nova to help me better visualize the path that satellites will take.
Rotor is still controlled manually,
though I may move to change that once the family budget will allow.

Haven't noticed much traffic or discussion on the air with anyone using Ham
Radio Deluxe's "Satellite Tracker" software. I'm wondering if other
operators have used the software, and what your impressions were.


--
--
73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life Member
Six Club #2484

Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 18:42:28 -0400
From: Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker
Message-ID: <E57AE480-A84C-4967-AEF0-AEDA358954EB@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Les,

I love satpc32 and used the free edition for a while till I could register,
and I'm glad I did. Thanks Erich

It runs a 5400 rotor via a W9KE - TI MSP430 rotor interface.   Thanks Tom

I have used the others, but I use satpc32 and have "configs" for:

Config 1
Icom 910 - for modes B or J

Config 2
Icom 9100 - for modes A B or J

Config 3 (backpack rig)
Icom 703 w/2m xverter Ten Tec - for modes A B or J
Yaesu Ft-817

Thanks,
Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> New to the birds, and using SATPC32 to control my Icom IC-910H. Also use
Nova to help me better visualize the path that satellites will take. Rotor
is still controlled manually,
> though I may move to change that once the family budget will allow.
>
> Haven't noticed much traffic or discussion on the air with anyone using
Ham Radio Deluxe's "Satellite Tracker" software. I'm wondering if other
operators have used
> the software, and what your impressions were.
>
>
> --
> --
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
>
> 6M VUCC #1712
> AMSAT #38965
> Grid Bandits #222
> Southeastern VHF Society
> Central States VHF Society Life Member
> Six Club #2484
>
> Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 01:54:00 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Stefan Wagener"
<wageners@xxxxx.xxx>,	<w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
tornadoin	Oklahoma and Texas
Message-ID: <000001ce5811$118c0380$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Stefan, VE4NSA

the link I provide belove is on the actual Amsat-NA website and is point D
of the teur satellites in times of emergency.


73" de

i8CVS Domenico
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Stefan Wagener
  To: i8cvs
  Cc: Bill Acito ; Amsat - BBs
  Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
tornadoin Oklahoma and Texas


  Sorry Domenico,


  the link you provide is on the "old" Amsat-NA website and is a copy of the
Indian website:


  http://www.amsatindia.org/hamsat.htm



  Nothing more, nothing less and Bill's point is very valid. While amateur
radio has a great history of emergency services and is one of the true key
public services, amateur radio satellite are currently not part of it. That
does not mean they cannot be used, but they are just too limited. There is a
reason why 99.9% of emergency services within NA using amateur radio are
based on ground services trough VHF/UHF and HF and not satellites!


  Stefan, VE4NSA















  On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:48 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Bill Acito" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
    To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
    Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:13 AM
    Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on tornadoin
    Oklahoma and Texas


    > Domenico,
    >
    > With all due respect, you base much of your
    > argument on a single sentence on a marketing web page.


    Hi Bill, W1PA

    The following page is not a marketing web page but an
    official AMSAT-NA web page

    http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/sat_summary/hamsat.php


    > The "emergency" access ability may have been
    > used as part of the justification for funding
    > or launch vehicle access; it doesn't mean it works for that
    > in any practical situation.
    >

    If you you mean that the the "emergency" access ability used
    by AMSAT as part of the justification for funding or launch

    vehicle access it doesn't mean it works for that in any practical

    situation it is like to say that AMSAT tells falsehood to NASA
    and ESA but as far I know AMSAT is not used to talk nonsense.

    >
    > Bill W1PA  (in New England, but I also live on the path of
    > the now 2nd deadliest tornado -- Worcester 1953)
    >

    73" de i8CVS Domenico

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 19:29:57 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Bill Acito <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
tornadoin Oklahoma and Texas
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHDQLZoOyizPDPgR6niYDQEotAJm74hV9md2+coiN91e8Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Thanks!

However you still seem to be missing the point.

First of all, these are incorporation papers from 1969!

Secondly, no one questions the potential of satellites and their actual use
for emergency. We actually have "satellite phones" for emergencies in our
facility and use them when we deploy folks around the world. Satellites
make great emergency communication systems if and I reiterate IF they are
available 24/7 365. Unfortunately none of "our" satellites will ever meet
that requirement unless we are in a fixed location on a geostationary orbit.

Thirdly, current amateur satellites are only available for a few minutes
sometimes during the day and our provincial/federal emergency coordinators
are having a good laugh about that.

Fourthly, please look up ARES and RACES on the Internet. Biggest emergency
response groups and networks worldwide involving amateur radio. None of
their frequencies include a single satellite for obvious reasons.

Rest my case.

Stefan, VE4NSA




On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:54 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:

> **
> Hi Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>  the link I provide belove is on the actual Amsat-NA website and is point
> D of the AMSAT purposes.
>
> Read it please.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/AboutAmsat/documents/incorporation.php
>
> D. Facilitating communications by amateur satellites in times of emergency.
>
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
> *To:* i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
> *Cc:* Bill Acito <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx> ; Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:36 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
> tornadoin Oklahoma and Texas
>
> Sorry Domenico,
>
> the link you provide is on the "old" Amsat-NA website and is a copy of the
> Indian website:
>
> http://www.amsatindia.org/hamsat.htm
>
> Nothing more, nothing less and Bill's point is very valid. While amateur
> radio has a great history of emergency services and is one of the true key
> public services, amateur radio satellite are currently not part of it. That
> does not mean they cannot be used, but they are just too limited. There is
> a reason why 99.9% of emergency services within NA using amateur radio are
> based on ground services trough VHF/UHF and HF and not satellites!
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:t D
> of the AMSAT purposes.
>
> Read it please.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/AboutAmsat/documents/incorporation.php
>
> D. Facilitating communications by amateur satellites in times of emergency.
>
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Stefan Wagener
>   To: i8cvs
>   Cc: Bill Acito ; Amsat - BBs
>   Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:36 AM
>   Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
> tornadoin Oklahoma and Texas
>
>
>   Sorry Domenico,
>
>
>   the link you provide is on the "old" Amsat-NA website and is a copy of
> the Indian website:
>
>
>   http://www.amsatindia.org/hamsat.htm
>
>
>
>   Nothing more, nothing less and Bill's point is very valid. While amateur
> radio has a great history of emergency services and is one of the true key
> public services, amateur radio satellite are currently not part of it. That
> does not mean they cannot be used, but they are just too limited. There is
> a reason why 99.9% of emergency services within NA using amateur radio are
> based on ground services trough VHF/UHF and HF and not satellites!
>
>
>   Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:48 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Bill Acito" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>     To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>     Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:13 AM
>     Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
> tornadoin
>     Oklahoma and Texas
>
>
>     > Domenico,
>     >
>     > With all due respect, you base much of your
>     > argument on a single sentence on a marketing web page.
>
>
>     Hi Bill, W1PA
>
>     The following page is not a marketing web page but an
>     official AMSAT-NA web page
>
>     http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/sat_summary/hamsat.php
>
>
>     > The "emergency" access ability may have been
>     > used as part of the justification for funding
>     > or launch vehicle access; it doesn't mean it works for that
>     > in any practical situation.
>     >
>
>     If you you mean that the the "emergency" access ability used
>     by AMSAT as part of the justification for funding or launch
>
>     vehicle access it doesn't mean it works for that in any practical
>
>     situation it is like to say that AMSAT tells falsehood to NASA
>     and ESA but as far I know AMSAT is not used to talk nonsense.
>
>     >
>     > Bill W1PA  (in New England, but I also live on the path of
>     > the now 2nd deadliest tornado -- Worcester 1953)
>     >
>
>     73" de i8CVS Domenico
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
>     Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
>     Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:43:35 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
tornadoin	Oklahoma and Texas
Message-ID: <006601ce5820$1bbbbfd0$53333f70$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

> subject matter for a journal or symposium paper

It's a bit dated now since I wrote it in 2008 for a Symposium paper
and it was reprinted in CQ VHF magazine ... I wrote a paper about
satellites in EMCOM:

I still have a copy stashed at:
http://home.comcast.net/~k9jkm/CQVHF_Eagle_ACP_Emcomm.pdf

This paper assumes a few things like we have an Eagle Phase IV GEO
satellite. It is written to tie multiple components of a national
level incident command system response up to being able to allow
several incidents to communicate with a unified command at a national
level. While the intrepid ham with HT and go=pack is key to local
emergency response a GEO satellite wasn't what was needed to call in
tornado reports within the county.

Now Clayton can really sleep better after reading this! Probably fall
asleep reading it, but ahem, I digress ...

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 21:31:45 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellites and the emergency on
tornadoin Oklahoma and Texas
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHA7Kc_zcO5JHxiO5w_k6RwCTT_nkiuGXrmqjD=y1FkeLA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Nice!

Point well made.

Stefan, Ve4NSA


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:43 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> > subject matter for a journal or symposium paper
>
> It's a bit dated now since I wrote it in 2008 for a Symposium paper
> and it was reprinted in CQ VHF magazine ... I wrote a paper about
> satellites in EMCOM:
>
> I still have a copy stashed at:
> http://home.comcast.net/~k9jkm/CQVHF_Eagle_ACP_Emcomm.pdf
>
> This paper assumes a few things like we have an Eagle Phase IV GEO
> satellite. It is written to tie multiple components of a national
> level incident command system response up to being able to allow
> several incidents to communicate with a unified command at a national
> level. While the intrepid ham with HT and go=pack is key to local
> emergency response a GEO satellite wasn't what was needed to call in
> tornado reports within the county.
>
> Now Clayton can really sleep better after reading this! Probably fall
> asleep reading it, but ahem, I digress ...
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 21:45:47 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Dave W?DHB <dave@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT Mailing List' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD 6.0 and Satellite Tracker
Message-ID: <519ED45B.1010705@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Thanks to Dave, and many others who contacted me about the use of
Satellite Tracker in HRD 6.0.
It was exactly the kind of input that I was hoping for.

A couple of other questions:

1.) I've noticed that Nova for Windows and SAT32PC display slightly
different data regarding AOS, LOS, Azimuth and Elevation for a given
satellite. This seems strange to me
since they're using the same KEP data, share the same PC clock which is
synced every 12 hours, etc.

Anyone else notice these small differences? None of them have much
effect on actual operation which is governed by the beamwidth of the
antennas (pretty broad), objects
blocking the horizon, etc. but it does make me curious.

73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
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On 5/23/2013 4:20 PM, Dave W?DHB wrote:
> Les
>
> I'm using HRD 6.0 SAT Tracker/HRD Rotator as well as SATPC32, predominately
> HRD SAT Tracker.
> In fact, I was using SAT Tracker when you and I QSO'd  5/20  on SO-50 .
>
> I use them in conjunction with my Flex 5000A  / EA4TX rotator controller/
> G5500 rotator.
>
> I am only using SAT Tracker and SATPC32 for TX/RX Doppler control as neither
> product has adequate support for other Flex 5000 Rig control functions IMHO
> .
>
> I have written software which intercepts CAT commands coming from either
> program and I only pass on doppler tuning info through to the Rig.
> The same software allows me to do other required Rig control functions:
> 	-TX
> 	-TX/RX calibration for transponder satellites
> 	-RIT
> 	-Transmit power adjust
> 	-Satellite specific controls-TX/RX mode, tones, reset SO-50 timer,
> etc.
> I also have provided support for my TS-2000 and IC-9100 in the software.
> My preference for SAT Tracker is primarily because I like the user interface
> better.
>
> Some caveats on using HRD 6.0 SAT Tracker/HRD Rotator natively with any
> supported rig:
> HRD Rotator does not play nicely with Rotators with a south stop
> (Yaesu-5400), you can make it work, but software azimuth readout is 180 deg
> off
> HRD SAT Tracker does not support transponders of the "Non-inverting type"
> (like AO-7 mode A)
>
> Dave W0DHB
>
>



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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:19:31 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Miguel Barreiro <miguel.barreiro.paz@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Question about HamTV
Message-ID: <519EDC43.3080405@xxxxx.xxx>
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I thought the whole idea with these SDR "Dongles" is that you could
decode practically anything in software. Unless the required bandwidth
is too high, and perhaps not in real time, but they can be decoded. For
example, people do SSB and FM with them, neither of which are anywhere
close to DVB-T modulation.

Couldn't something like that be done with HamTV?

Greg KO6TH


Miguel Barreiro wrote:
> Raydel,
>
> Apart from the frequency and signal level differences, DVB-T is a 6-8MHz
> wide signal with COFDM modulation, using 2k to 8k subcarriers, while DVB-S
> is a single carrier, 6..36MHz wide signal, usually QPSK or 8PSK. You cannot
> use a downconverter and a DVB-T receiver to tune into a DVB-S channel.
>
> However, the digital bitstream carried by both is the same - so if you have
> software analyzers and audio/video players for DVB-T they will work for
> DVB-S too.
>
> Miguel
> EA1ICZ
>
>
>
> 2013/5/21 Raydel Abreu Espinet<cm2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> About the future HamTV experiment, is it possible to use a cheap RTL DVB-T
>> dongles used or RTLSDR to receive such signals with proper LNA and
>> downconverter. If the downconversion fits the signal on a proper channel
>> does it device is capable of decode the transmitted format???
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Raydel
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