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Today's Topics:

   1. Amsat contact info (Mike Rupprecht)
   2. Re: J-Pole Antenna (Jeff Moore)
   3. Re: Amsat contact info (Alan)
   4. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (M5AKA)
   5. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (I0ELE)
   6. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (M5AKA)
   7. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (Roger)
   8.  Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (I0ELE)
   9. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (Greg D)
  10. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (Greg D)
  11. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (I0ELE)
  12. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (Greg D)
  13. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (I0ELE)
  14. Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies (Greg D)
  15. FS: Eggbeaters at Dayton (R.T.Liddy)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 21:16:12 +0200
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat contact info
Message-ID: <00cb01ce4f45$2aea50e0$80bef2a0$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

fyi
------

Hi All, I didn't really know who to contact, so I emailed you all, sorry for
the spam.

I'd like to officially inform the Amsat and IARU communities (though you
surely know this already), that we are now sure CubeBug-1 is object 13018D /
39153.

In the last days NORAD has officially assigned the name "CUBEBUG 1" to
object 39153.

Doppler shift analysis made by many members of the amateur community (via
private communications) agree with this too. For example see
http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=33101.

Finally, our own analysis, and that of the launch services broker
(ISIS/ISL), based on insertion forces, masses and other physical
characteristics, agrees with this assignment.

So we wanted to inform the community that we now officially assume the
CubeBug-1 is object 13018D/39153 and that the frequency of the radio has
shifted, for some yet unknown reason. We now assume the satellite transmits
(and receives) at 437438300Hz. This again is mainly based in the experience
of the members of the amateur radio enthusiasts.

And finally, but most important, we also wanted to thank the whole radio
amateur community, so please forward them our most warm thank you. I tried
to put what I feel in words a few days ago:
http://1.cubebug.org/post/49490931912/we-love-the-amateur-radio-enthusiasts

thank you very much all for being there,
gera for the CubeBug-1 team.

PS: Please, forward this email to who you think may be interested, thank
you!



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 10:48:06 -0700
From: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: J-Pole Antenna
Message-ID: <518FD5D6.7020109@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I wouldn't recommend a J-pole for satellite work unless you expect to
only work sats on the horizon.  The J-Pole antenna has a low take-off
angle and almost NO radiation overhead,  an plain 1/4 wave ground plane
antenna would work better for the sats.



J-poles are great terrestrial communications antennas, not so much for
working overhead satellite passes.  An Eggbeater or quadrifiliar antenna
would be a better choice.

7 3

Jeff Moore  --  KE7ACY

On 5/12/2013 8:00 AM, Werner, HB9BNK wrote
> Thank you all for your valuable hints and advices !
>
> I will now build such an antenna and then supply here the results.
>
> 73 Werner, HB9BNK



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:26:30 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Mike Rupprecht'" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amsat contact info
Message-ID: <5DC7B48E33404D39A9BE173EF7781E20@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Mike,

Good news.  This gets widely circulated.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Mike Rupprecht
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:16 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat contact info

fyi
------

Hi All, I didn't really know who to contact, so I emailed you all, sorry for
the spam.

I'd like to officially inform the Amsat and IARU communities (though you
surely know this already), that we are now sure CubeBug-1 is object 13018D /
39153.

In the last days NORAD has officially assigned the name "CUBEBUG 1" to
object 39153.

Doppler shift analysis made by many members of the amateur community (via
private communications) agree with this too. For example see
http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=33101.

Finally, our own analysis, and that of the launch services broker
(ISIS/ISL), based on insertion forces, masses and other physical
characteristics, agrees with this assignment.

So we wanted to inform the community that we now officially assume the
CubeBug-1 is object 13018D/39153 and that the frequency of the radio has
shifted, for some yet unknown reason. We now assume the satellite transmits
(and receives) at 437438300Hz. This again is mainly based in the experience
of the members of the amateur radio enthusiasts.

And finally, but most important, we also wanted to thank the whole radio
amateur community, so please forward them our most warm thank you. I tried
to put what I feel in words a few days ago:
http://1.cubebug.org/post/49490931912/we-love-the-amateur-radio-enthusiasts

thank you very much all for being there,
gera for the CubeBug-1 team.

PS: Please, forward this email to who you think may be interested, thank
you!

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 22:01:24 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>,	Stefan Wagener
<wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID:
<1368392484.12226.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

The AMSAT-UK page at http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/12/hamtv-from-the-iss/
provides the links, they are:

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Hamtvproject

More information at http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf
and http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV.pdf

The HamTV.pdf gives the link budget, looks like there's 7dB of
coax/connector losses to overcome between the ISS transmitter and the
antenna. That document indicates a 90cm dish should be sufficient.

I believe that it's going up on ATV 4 which is currently slated for June 5.

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Sun, 12/5/13, R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

From: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ISS HamTV Frequencies
To: "M5AKA" <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Date: Sunday, 12 May, 2013, 17:46




Trevor...I have been so busy with our family moving to our new farm and
ferrying a bunch of airplanes to Bangladesh and India...that I have not read
a lot on this.? Do you have a link on the topic?

I am about to get both a VU and SL2 license and will put both active on at
least AO7 and VU 52...

thanks in advance. Robert G. Oler WB5MZO

> Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 17:01:46 +0100
> From: m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS HamTV Frequencies
>
> The IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination Panel have announced
frequencies of 2422.0 MHz and 2437.0 MHz.
>
> See http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/12/hamtv-from-the-iss/
>
> ----
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> AMSAT-UK website http://amsat-uk.org/
> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AMSAT-UK/208113275898396
>
 Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
> ----
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 		 	   		




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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 23:30:23 +0200
From: I0ELE <emanuele.dandria@xxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID: <519009EF.90307@xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed

Certainly!
You can find the nominal link budget on
http://www.amsat.it/HAMTV_Link-budget-IARU.pdf and all the relevant
information http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf.
However

  * Recommended Antenna gain > 25 dB
  * RHCP
  * Low noise down converter i.e. Kuhne LNC 25 or LNC 25 TM NF 0.7 dB
  * Any DVB-S  Decoder which can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal

73, Emanuele, I0ELE
President AMSAT Italia


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 22:32:26 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>,	Stefan Wagener
<wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID:
<1368394346.61199.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

HamTV - Houston Power Point slides
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/Meetings/2011_Houston/Presentations/11%20Pres
entazione_Houston_Draft.pdf

Some addition information plus a video of a presentation given by
AMSAT-Italia (video in Italian) is on the ESA website at
http://www.esa.int/About_Us/ESRIN/Radio_hams_at_ESRIN_with_AMSAT_Italia/%28pri
nt%29

I understand the HamTV equipment will be carried to the ISS on the ATV 4
spacecraft currently planned to launch on June 5.

BTW Italy also has an Astronaut Luca Parmitano KF5KDP heading to the ISS.
Luca is planned to launch from Baikonur in Kazhakstan to the ISS on May 28
and is also mentioned in his post -
USA High School Student?s RocketHub Project
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/11/high-school-students-rockethub-project/

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Sun, 12/5/13, M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> The AMSAT-UK page at http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/12/hamtv-from-the-iss/
> provides the links, they are:
>
> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Hamtvproject
>
> More information at http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf
> and http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV.pdf
>
> The HamTV.pdf gives the link budget, looks like there's 7dB
> of coax/connector losses to overcome between the ISS
> transmitter and the antenna. That document indicates a 90cm
> dish should be sufficient.
>
> I believe that it's going up on ATV 4 which is currently
> slated for June 5.
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA




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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 17:34:28 -0400
From: Roger <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID: <51900AE4.3080201@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Anybody off the top of their heads know how many degrees a second swing
are (is?) required for direct aim at the ISS?  I know there are beam
width tolerances, altitude variations and degree above horizon
variations but I'm looking at Bob B's fixed antenna aiming of 15-20
degrees above horizon to evaluate swinging a dish without torque eating
up the drive train...

Roger
WA1KAT
On 5/12/2013 5:01 PM, M5AKA wrote:
> The AMSAT-UK page at http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/12/hamtv-from-the-iss/
provides the links, they are:
>
> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Hamtvproject
>
> More information at http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf
> and http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV.pdf
>
> The HamTV.pdf gives the link budget, looks like there's 7dB of
coax/connector losses to overcome between the ISS transmitter and the
antenna. That document indicates a 90cm dish should be sufficient.
>
> I believe that it's going up on ATV 4 which is currently slated for June 5.
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>



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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 23:45:14 +0200
From: I0ELE <emanuele.dandria@xxxxx.xx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID: <51900D6A.6080301@xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Certainly!
You can find the nominal link budget on
http://www.amsat.it/HAMTV_Link-budget-IARU.pdf and all the relevant
information http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf.
However

  * Recommended Antenna gain > 25 dB
  * RHCP
  * Low noise down converter i.e. Kuhne LNC 25 or LNC 25 TM NF 0.7 dB
  * Any DVB-S  Decoder which can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal

73, Emanuele, I0ELE

Il 12/05/2013 19.15, Stefan Wagener ha scritto:
> Nice!
>
> Has anyone figured out any ground station requirements? Antenna gain,
> polarization, receiving equipment etc...
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:01 AM, M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>
>> The IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination Panel have announced
>> frequencies of 2422.0 MHz and 2437.0 MHz.
>>
>> See http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/12/hamtv-from-the-iss/
>>
>> ----
>> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>> AMSAT-UK website http://amsat-uk.org/
>> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/AMSAT-UK/208113275898396
>> Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
>> ----
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:11:50 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Roger <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "BB, AMSAT" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID: <519013A6.8010503@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

A dish like in the picture probably has a beam-width of 15-ish degrees.
I used a 30 inch BBQ grill antenna for AO-40, and would notice a
drop-off when mis-aimed by about that much.  ISS moves VERY quickly
compared to AO-40, so some sort of active positioning on both axis is
going to be required.

I need to get that dish back up on the rotisserie...

Greg  KO6TH


Roger wrote:
> Anybody off the top of their heads know how many degrees a second
> swing are (is?) required for direct aim at the ISS?  I know there are
> beam width tolerances, altitude variations and degree above horizon
> variations but I'm looking at Bob B's fixed antenna aiming of 15-20
> degrees above horizon to evaluate swinging a dish without torque
> eating up the drive train...
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
> On 5/12/2013 5:01 PM, M5AKA wrote:
>> The AMSAT-UK page at
>> http://amsat-uk.org/2013/05/12/hamtv-from-the-iss/ provides the
>> links, they are:
>>
>> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Hamtvproject
>>
>> More information at http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf
>> and http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV.pdf
>>
>> The HamTV.pdf gives the link budget, looks like there's 7dB of
>> coax/connector losses to overcome between the ISS transmitter and the
>> antenna. That document indicates a 90cm dish should be sufficient.
>>
>> I believe that it's going up on ATV 4 which is currently slated for
>> June 5.
>>
>> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:15:44 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: I0ELE <emanuele.dandria@xxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID: <51901490.5080806@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

For the digital TV challenged, what means "Any DVB-S Decoder which can
decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal"?  How would I know if I have such a
thing, or what I would need to get if I don't.

Greg  KO6TH


I0ELE wrote:
> Certainly!
> You can find the nominal link budget on
> http://www.amsat.it/HAMTV_Link-budget-IARU.pdf and all the relevant
> information http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf.
> However
>
>  * Recommended Antenna gain > 25 dB
>  * RHCP
>  * Low noise down converter i.e. Kuhne LNC 25 or LNC 25 TM NF 0.7 dB
>  * Any DVB-S  Decoder which can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal
>
> 73, Emanuele, I0ELE
> President AMSAT Italia
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 00:32:09 +0200
From: I0ELE <emanuele.dandria@xxxxx.xx>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID: <51901869.4090104@xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

HAMTV stream will be transmitted at 1.3 MSym/s or at 2.0 MSym/s.
Technical specs of the set-top box indicate the range of the decoded
stream. Generally this range is from 2 to 45 MSym/s, therefore if you
need to buy it, you should select one that can guarantee a range from 1
to 45 MSym/s.

Emanuele I0ELE


Il 13/05/2013 0.15, Greg D ha scritto:
> For the digital TV challenged, what means "Any DVB-S Decoder which can
> decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal"?  How would I know if I have such a
> thing, or what I would need to get if I don't.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> I0ELE wrote:
>> Certainly!
>> You can find the nominal link budget on
>> http://www.amsat.it/HAMTV_Link-budget-IARU.pdf and all the relevant
>> information http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf.
>> However
>>
>>  * Recommended Antenna gain > 25 dB
>>  * RHCP
>>  * Low noise down converter i.e. Kuhne LNC 25 or LNC 25 TM NF 0.7 dB
>>  * Any DVB-S  Decoder which can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal
>>
>> 73, Emanuele, I0ELE
>> President AMSAT Italia
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:45:35 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: I0ELE <emanuele.dandria@xxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID: <51901B8F.9090901@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Emanuele,

Right.  But what is that in terms of what normally gets described?  For
example, I have a Digital TV card for my computer (Pinnacle PCTV HD).
It says it does "ATSC digital TV (HDTV up to 1080i, and SDTV)" and
"Clear QAM (unencrypted digital cable)".

Am I even close?

Greg  KO6TH


I0ELE wrote:
> HAMTV stream will be transmitted at 1.3 MSym/s or at 2.0 MSym/s.
> Technical specs of the set-top box indicate the range of the decoded
> stream. Generally this range is from 2 to 45 MSym/s, therefore if you
> need to buy it, you should select one that can guarantee a range from
> 1 to 45 MSym/s.
>
> Emanuele I0ELE
>
>
> Il 13/05/2013 0.15, Greg D ha scritto:
>> For the digital TV challenged, what means "Any DVB-S Decoder which
>> can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal"?  How would I know if I have such
>> a thing, or what I would need to get if I don't.
>>
>> Greg  KO6TH
>>
>>
>> I0ELE wrote:
>>> Certainly!
>>> You can find the nominal link budget on
>>> http://www.amsat.it/HAMTV_Link-budget-IARU.pdf and all the relevant
>>> information http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf.
>>> However
>>>
>>>  * Recommended Antenna gain > 25 dB
>>>  * RHCP
>>>  * Low noise down converter i.e. Kuhne LNC 25 or LNC 25 TM NF 0.7 dB
>>>  * Any DVB-S  Decoder which can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal
>>>
>>> 73, Emanuele, I0ELE
>>> President AMSAT Italia
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
>>> author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 00:56:18 +0200
From: I0ELE <emanuele.dandria@xxxxx.xx>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID: <51901E12.3080404@xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Greg,
I believe that your Pinnacle PC Card is not for DVB-S (Satellite
networks) but for DVB-T (terrestrial networks).
Please check on the web or give me the model of your card, so that I
will check it.
Emanuele I0ELE

Il 13/05/2013 0.45, Greg D ha scritto:
> Hi Emanuele,
>
> Right.  But what is that in terms of what normally gets described?
> For example, I have a Digital TV card for my computer (Pinnacle PCTV
> HD).  It says it does "ATSC digital TV (HDTV up to 1080i, and SDTV)"
> and "Clear QAM (unencrypted digital cable)".
>
> Am I even close?
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> I0ELE wrote:
>> HAMTV stream will be transmitted at 1.3 MSym/s or at 2.0 MSym/s.
>> Technical specs of the set-top box indicate the range of the decoded
>> stream. Generally this range is from 2 to 45 MSym/s, therefore if you
>> need to buy it, you should select one that can guarantee a range from
>> 1 to 45 MSym/s.
>>
>> Emanuele I0ELE
>>
>>
>> Il 13/05/2013 0.15, Greg D ha scritto:
>>> For the digital TV challenged, what means "Any DVB-S Decoder which
>>> can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal"?  How would I know if I have such
>>> a thing, or what I would need to get if I don't.
>>>
>>> Greg  KO6TH
>>>
>>>
>>> I0ELE wrote:
>>>> Certainly!
>>>> You can find the nominal link budget on
>>>> http://www.amsat.it/HAMTV_Link-budget-IARU.pdf and all the relevant
>>>> information http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf.
>>>> However
>>>>
>>>>  * Recommended Antenna gain > 25 dB
>>>>  * RHCP
>>>>  * Low noise down converter i.e. Kuhne LNC 25 or LNC 25 TM NF 0.7 dB
>>>>  * Any DVB-S  Decoder which can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal
>>>>
>>>> 73, Emanuele, I0ELE
>>>> President AMSAT Italia
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> author.
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 16:25:40 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: I0ELE <emanuele.dandria@xxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HamTV Frequencies
Message-ID: <519024F4.90407@xxxxx.xxx>
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Ah, that is probably right.  Model is PCTV-800i; it's definitely aimed
at terrestrial stuff.  Now I know what "-S" means...

Would there, by chance, be a decoder for the FunCube Dongle (or other
USB thingie)?

Thanks for the help,

Greg  KO6TH


I0ELE wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> I believe that your Pinnacle PC Card is not for DVB-S (Satellite
> networks) but for DVB-T (terrestrial networks).
> Please check on the web or give me the model of your card, so that I
> will check it.
> Emanuele I0ELE
>
> Il 13/05/2013 0.45, Greg D ha scritto:
>> Hi Emanuele,
>>
>> Right.  But what is that in terms of what normally gets described?
>> For example, I have a Digital TV card for my computer (Pinnacle PCTV
>> HD).  It says it does "ATSC digital TV (HDTV up to 1080i, and SDTV)"
>> and "Clear QAM (unencrypted digital cable)".
>>
>> Am I even close?
>>
>> Greg  KO6TH
>>
>>
>> I0ELE wrote:
>>> HAMTV stream will be transmitted at 1.3 MSym/s or at 2.0 MSym/s.
>>> Technical specs of the set-top box indicate the range of the decoded
>>> stream. Generally this range is from 2 to 45 MSym/s, therefore if
>>> you need to buy it, you should select one that can guarantee a range
>>> from 1 to 45 MSym/s.
>>>
>>> Emanuele I0ELE
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 13/05/2013 0.15, Greg D ha scritto:
>>>> For the digital TV challenged, what means "Any DVB-S Decoder which
>>>> can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal"?  How would I know if I have
>>>> such a thing, or what I would need to get if I don't.
>>>>
>>>> Greg  KO6TH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I0ELE wrote:
>>>>> Certainly!
>>>>> You can find the nominal link budget on
>>>>> http://www.amsat.it/HAMTV_Link-budget-IARU.pdf and all the
>>>>> relevant information
>>>>> http://www.amsat.it/Amsat-Italia_HamTV_brochure.pdf.
>>>>> However
>>>>>
>>>>>  * Recommended Antenna gain > 25 dB
>>>>>  * RHCP
>>>>>  * Low noise down converter i.e. Kuhne LNC 25 or LNC 25 TM NF 0.7 dB
>>>>>  * Any DVB-S  Decoder which can decode a 1.3 MSym/s TV signal
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Emanuele, I0ELE
>>>>> President AMSAT Italia
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
>>>>> author.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
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>>>
>


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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 18:39:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Eggbeaters at Dayton
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FOR SALE:
?
M2 Eggbeater EB-144/RK-2M? 2 Meter Eggbeater w/reflector kit
?
M2 Eggbeater EB-432/RK-70CM? 432 Eggbeater w/reflector kit
?
These will be sold as a pair at the Dayton Hamvention this week
in FleaMarket Space 1540 for less than half the catalog price!
?
They were never mounted outside in the weather and are virtually
brand new.
?
Stop and check them out or come by just to say Hi. Maybe we
worked on the Birds on one of my Satellite Expeditions. See them
on my QRZ(dot)com page.
?
73,?? Bob K8BL

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