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Today's Topics:
1. Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or horizontal
(Don Hoover (WS4E))
2. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 8, Issue 117 (Burns Fisher)
3. Re: TH-F6A capable of full-duplex satellite operation?
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
4. Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or horizontal
(Mark L. Hammond)
5. Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or horizontal
(Lee Maisel)
6. CSUN CubeSat project gets $25,000 from JPL (M5AKA)
7. Time Is Running Out (Martha)
8. Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or horizontal
(R.T.Liddy)
9. Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or horizontal
(Douglas Phelps)
10. For Sale : (Bruce R Brown)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:10:26 +0000
From: "Don Hoover (WS4E)" <ws4e@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or
horizontal
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Just wondering, should I mount my arrow with the 2m elements oriented
vertical or horizontal?
I am planning on putting it at 15deg and just using a az rotator.
Does it even matter which way its oriented since the polarity of the sats
are always changing?
Maybe I should mount it like this: / instead.
Just curious what some thought was the best way to go.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:29:22 -0400
From: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 8, Issue 117
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Hi,
I hope I have not been missing something major on my Kenwood TH-F6 HT, but
I don't think it does full duplex. You can receive two channels
simultaneously, yes. But I don't believe you can transmit on one while
simultaneously listening on the other. That's the capability that you need
to confirm you can "hear yourself" and confirm that you are reaching the
satellite and the sat is sending your voice back to you.
If I'm wrong about the TH-F6a that would be a bummer! I'm looking for an
excuse to replace it with a TH-D72a
73,
Burns W2BFJ
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:52:59 -0500
> From: "ac4ny_1" <ac4ny_1@xxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List
> Message-ID: <001101ce39e8$eedf2380$
> e301a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
> Hi Bob:
>
> I use a Yaesu FT-60r with a homebrew handheld 3 element loop yagi. I only
> work half duplex. For full duplex I use a Baofeng UV3R (cheap but does
> work). The Kenwood TH-F6A is great. Make sure the HT will do cross band.
> Also use a good duplexer.
> There are many other great radios out there and a lot more operators on
> here
> that has more insight than I.
> I been on the birds since 2000. Licensed since 1979.
> I work the birds as much as my work sked will allow.
> 73
> Joe...AC4NY
> EM73dp
>
> (My neighbors thinks I lost it; running around the yard with a handheld
> > antenna)!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Garceau" <rgarceau@xxxx.xxx>
> To: "'ac4ny_1'" <ac4ny_1@xxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: The Ham Radio Bucket List
>
>
> > Hi Joe:
> >
> > I have been following this thread and have a few questions.
> > I have been in ham radio for 50 years. And, yep, satellite radio has been
> > on
> > my "I got to do this" list.
> >
> > Can you suggest a good HT?
> > I have my antenna picked out and that's the arrow.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:49:17 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TH-F6A capable of full-duplex satellite
operation?
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Burns,
> I hope I have not been missing something major on my Kenwood TH-F6 HT, but
> I don't think it does full duplex. You can receive two channels
> simultaneously, yes. But I don't believe you can transmit on one while
> simultaneously listening on the other. That's the capability that you need
> to confirm you can "hear yourself" and confirm that you are reaching the
> satellite and the sat is sending your voice back to you.
>
> If I'm wrong about the TH-F6a that would be a bummer! I'm looking for an
> excuse to replace it with a TH-D72a
>
>
You now have your excuse to get the TH-D72A. :-) The TH-F6A has two VFOs,
but it is not capable of cross-band full-duplex operation for the
satellites.
You might want to hold onto the TH-F6A, even if you get a TH-D72A. The
TH-F6A
has an all-mode receiver, which could be paired up with something like an
FT-817
to make a small station capable of all-mode, full-duplex satellite
operation. The
TH-F6A's non-FM receiver is not as sensitive nor as selective as other
radios like
an FT-817, but the FT-817/TH-F6A combination makes for a nice station to
show
off at demonstrations.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:12:19 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Don Hoover (WS4E)" <ws4e@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or
horizontal
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Hi Don,
Here is me, thinking out loud---
Think of the secondary use....If you want to use the array for local FM
repeaters, go vertical. If you want to use it for SSB contacts, go
horizontal.
73,
Mark N8MH
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Don Hoover (WS4E) <ws4e@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Just wondering, should I mount my arrow with the 2m elements oriented
> vertical or horizontal?
>
> I am planning on putting it at 15deg and just using a az rotator.
>
> Does it even matter which way its oriented since the polarity of the sats
> are always changing?
>
> Maybe I should mount it like this: / instead.
>
> Just curious what some thought was the best way to go.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:24:45 -0600
From: Lee Maisel <maisel@xxxx.xxx>
To: "Don Hoover (WS4E)" <ws4e@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or
horizontal
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Hi Don,
I have mine mounted with 2m elements horizontal, because that's how it
seems I used it most when it was handheld.
Lee
W5LMM
Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote:
> Just wondering, should I mount my arrow with the 2m elements oriented
> vertical or horizontal?
>
> I am planning on putting it at 15deg and just using a az rotator.
>
> Does it even matter which way its oriented since the polarity of the sats
> are always changing?
>
> Maybe I should mount it like this: / instead.
>
> Just curious what some thought was the best way to go.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
--
????? ????
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:17:19 +0100 (BST)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] CSUN CubeSat project gets $25,000 from JPL
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Professor Sharlene Katz, WB6FFE and Professor James Flynn, WB9AWX
have received $25,000 from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory for a
CubeSat project, see
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/04/16/radio-amateurs-get-25000-for-cubesat/
Also on the AMSAT-UK site:
Video ? The CanSat Leader Training Program
http://amsat-uk.org/2013/04/15/cansat-leader-training-program/
----
Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK http://www.amsat-uk.org/
Join or Renew your AMSAT-UK membership at
http://shop.amsat.org.uk/shop/category_7/Membership-of-AMSAT-UK.html
----
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:33:14 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Time Is Running Out
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If you are planning to stay with the AMSAT group in Dayton, you need to
call me before 4/24. At that time, we lose the block. I will need your
room nights and a credit card to hold the room. Time is running out - make
that call! (301-589-6062)
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73- Martha
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:44:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or
horizontal
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For the Satellites, it completely doesn't matter. At any given moment,
you only have 1 chance in 90 that you will have matching polarization.
?
So, if you plan to use the antenna for other than Satellites, set your
polarization
for that purpose (V for FM or H for SSB/CW).
?
My plan is to install 2 Elk antennas, one V and one H. Then, have a relay that
I can switch between the two and choose the best downlink signal at any
given moment. This arrangement will also give me optimum flexibility for
terrestrial operation on 2 & 440.
?
Now, where can I find a relay to do that function?????
?
73/GL,??? Bob K8BL
--- On Tue, 4/16/13, Lee Maisel <maisel@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
From: Lee Maisel <maisel@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or
horizontal
To: "Don Hoover (WS4E)" <ws4e@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 12:24 AM
Hi Don,
I have mine mounted with 2m elements horizontal, because that's how it
seems I used it most when it was handheld.
Lee
W5LMM
Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote:
> Just wondering, should I mount my arrow with the 2m elements oriented
> vertical or horizontal?
>
> I am planning on putting it at 15deg and just using a az rotator.
>
> Does it even matter which way its oriented since the polarity of the sats
> are always changing?
>
> Maybe I should mount it like this: / instead.
>
> Just curious what some thought was the best way to go.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>???
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????? ????
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Douglas Phelps <dphelps1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or
horizontal
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Any reason why, using identical coax lengths, you could not transform the
impedance to 100 ohms and then use a T connector to sum both antenna signals
and
achieve 50 ohms to the radio?? I know Transmit power will be 3 dB down at
either
antenna but is there any reason it will not work?? Any antenna gurus out
there?
________________________________
From: R.T.Liddy <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tue, April 16, 2013 11:46:35 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or
horizontal
For the Satellites, it completely doesn't matter. At any given moment,
you only have 1 chance in 90 that you will have matching polarization.
?
So, if you plan to use the antenna for other than Satellites, set your
polarization
for that purpose (V for FM or H for SSB/CW).
?
My plan is to install 2 Elk antennas, one V and one H. Then, have a relay that
I can switch between the two and choose the best downlink signal at any
given moment. This arrangement will also give me optimum flexibility for
terrestrial operation on 2 & 440.
?
Now, where can I find a relay to do that function?????
?
73/GL,??? Bob K8BL
--- On Tue, 4/16/13, Lee Maisel <maisel@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
From: Lee Maisel <maisel@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mount an Arrow on rotator with 2m vertical or
horizontal
To: "Don Hoover (WS4E)" <ws4e@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 12:24 AM
Hi Don,
I have mine mounted with 2m elements horizontal, because that's how it
seems I used it most when it was handheld.
Lee
W5LMM
Don Hoover (WS4E) wrote:
> Just wondering, should I mount my arrow with the 2m elements oriented
> vertical or horizontal?
>
> I am planning on putting it at 15deg and just using a az rotator.
>
> Does it even matter which way its oriented since the polarity of the sats
> are always changing?
>
> Maybe I should mount it like this: / instead.
>
> Just curious what some thought was the best way to go.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>???
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????? ????
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:41:09 -0500
From: "Bruce R Brown" <willmarbrowns@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale :
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your door.
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your door.
Pay pal preferred..tks es 73
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willmarbrowns@xxxxxxx.xxx
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