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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Rotation of NIWAKA (Joe Leikhim)
2. Re: Rotation of NIWAKA (Joe Leikhim)
3. DELETE DELETE and DELETE AGAIN (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: DELETE DELETE and DELETE AGAIN (jmfranke)
5. Re: READ READ AND READ AGAIN (Alan)
6. AMSAT (Dave Guimont)
7. AMSAT (Dave Guimont)
8. Sat/Sat Link (Tom Lubbers K8TL)
9. Re: Sat/Sat Link (Bob- W7LRD)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:35:43 -0500
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: tanaka@xxx.xx.xxx "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Rotation of NIWAKA
Message-ID: <5118049F.6070102@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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It may be symmetrical, however the LED array is projecting photons
from one plane. Could the photonic energy be a sufficient force?
From website: " I have no idea on the reason. Let me know if
you have any idea.
NIWAKA do not have any mechanism like Crookes radiometer.
Its structure is almost symmetry around Z-axis."
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:46:20 -0500
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: tanaka@xxx.xx.xxx "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Rotation of NIWAKA
Message-ID: <5118071C.8030202@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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To be clear, the side which has the LED's is arranged such that most of
the LED's are nearest one corner. If the LED side is the trailing side
of the vehicle, is it possible the force is corkscrewing the satellite
forward? Any "experts"?
On 2/10/2013 3:35 PM, Joe Leikhim wrote:
>
>
> It may be symmetrical, however the LED array is projecting photons
from one plane. Could the photonic energy be a sufficient force?
>
> From website: " I have no idea on the reason. Let me know
if you have any idea.
> NIWAKA do not have any mechanism like Crookes radiometer.
> Its structure is almost symmetry around Z-axis."
>
> --
> Joe Leikhim
>
>
> Leikhim and Associates
>
> Communications Consultants
>
> Oviedo, Florida
>
> JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
>
> 407-982-0446
>
> WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:38:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DELETE DELETE and DELETE AGAIN
Message-ID:
<1206819628.984537.1360532311333.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxx
xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Does Amsat have anything to offer us besides an email BB ?
Now I guess there will be 2 weeks of RE: emails to this honest question
that we all know the answer to.(nothing but excuses)
Amsat needs more money, send more money. How much money does Amsat have?
All these rocket scientist out there and not one of them can bum a little 6
inch square satellite a ride into space. Please don't dazel me with anymore
of your electronic genius, I don't care, I would like to see it in space in
the form of a bird that we can talk through. One that just doesn't beep beep
beep . I would be good to see this BBS used for making contacts in grids
,states and friends.
Why would anyone want to be a member of Amsat or renew membership?
See u
Damon
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:56:07 -0500
From: "jmfranke" <jmfranke@xxx.xxx>
To: <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: DELETE DELETE and DELETE AGAIN
Message-ID: <9F42EAE996314A47B547B71EBDB50631@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
AMSAT is only as good as its members. Everyone needs to ask themselves how
they have contributed; articles to the Journal, support at hamfests,
donations of time and money, etc.
John WA4WDL
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From: <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:38 PM
To: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DELETE DELETE and DELETE AGAIN
> Does Amsat have anything to offer us besides an email BB ?
> Now I guess there will be 2 weeks of RE: emails to this honest question
> that we all know the answer to.(nothing but excuses)
> Amsat needs more money, send more money. How much money does Amsat have?
> All these rocket scientist out there and not one of them can bum a little
> 6 inch square satellite a ride into space. Please don't dazel me with
> anymore of your electronic genius, I don't care, I would like to see it in
> space in the form of a bird that we can talk through. One that just
> doesn't beep beep beep . I would be good to see this BBS used for making
> contacts in grids ,states and friends.
> Why would anyone want to be a member of Amsat or renew membership?
> See u
> Damon
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:28:57 -0600
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: READ READ AND READ AGAIN
Message-ID: <ECFD74257B6D4F77A1A2BE03EFCBCB28@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Damon,
Last November, on the 8th, you posted an "energetic" message in which you
said in part: "OK this really gets me. Go to space weather.com A dummy obama
can get a free ride into space and tons of cube sats can get into space, but
Amsat has to wait another year and half...." That was based on not reading
the article carefully, which it in fact described a doll flown on a balloon.
In my reply, I also explained the process of how satellite launches are done
these days. That is available in the archives.
There are here again a few misunderstandings. Actually, they are 4 inch
cube satellites, to perhaps nitpick. We already have a ride from NASA, this
year, with more in the works. Fox-1 will have some differences, but provide
the same type of capabilities as AO-51's most popular modes. See any
number of ANS, AMSAT Journal, and other sources for this information.
The question is not how much money AMSAT has; every organization that can't
print its own money needs a reserve to buffer cash flow. AMSAT is in the
process of developing multiple satellites, and thanks to the efforts of
many, it is running about even on covering expenses. Due to ITAR and other
issues, that has not always been the case in the past few years.
As to why be a member, see above. Most understand that it takes time,
effort, and sometimes even a bit of luck in the space business. Especially
when you are working on the proverbial shoestring. If you find our efforts
unacceptable, then by all means put your own efforts, talents, and money
with people who are doing it the way you wish. Criticism, preferably
constructive and knowledgeable, is always welcome. Being insulting is rude,
unproductive, and a violation of the Acceptable Use Policy.
Finally, things are slow, but I see a fair number of posts about grids,
states, etc. In this year, we will see Fox-1, FUNcube from AMSAT-UK, and
possibly other sources of contacts. QSOs and BB discussions rise and fall
with the number of functioning satellites.
It would be unfortunate for you to leave based on a further series of
misunderstandings. If you do decide to leave, the very best to you, and
many happy QSOs!
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:39 PM
To: AMSAT
Subject: [amsat-bb] DELETE DELETE and DELETE AGAIN
Does Amsat have anything to offer us besides an email BB ?
Now I guess there will be 2 weeks of RE: emails to this honest question
that we all know the answer to.(nothing but excuses)
Amsat needs more money, send more money. How much money does Amsat have?
All these rocket scientist out there and not one of them can bum a little 6
inch square satellite a ride into space. Please don't dazel me with anymore
of your electronic genius, I don't care, I would like to see it in space in
the form of a bird that we can talk through. One that just doesn't beep beep
beep . I would be good to see this BBS used for making contacts in grids
,states and friends.
Why would anyone want to be a member of Amsat or renew membership?
See u
Damon
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:34:03 -0800
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT
Message-ID: <511890DB.9060000@xxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Damon if there is any way you can convince the taxpaying public to
provide the financial assistance necessary to pay for the ride, be OUR
guest.
I have no idea what your experience is with the topic, but I can tell
you mine.
I'm 91 years old, been interested in satellites in general since the
term came into use, and my first contact was on O7 some time in the 80's
and have been
active in one way or another since. Our first rides were free, all the
engineering and construction by volunteers.
And an AMSAT member since its inception......
Can you recommend a way to do that without an organization???
73 Dave WB6LLO
> Does Amst have anything to offer us besides an email BB ?
> Now I guess there will be 2 weeks of RE: emails to this honest question
that we all know the answer to.(nothing but excuses)
> Amsat needs more money, send more money. How much money does Amsat have?
> All these rocket scientist out there and not one of them can bum a
little 6 inch square satellite a ride into space. Please don't dazel me with
anymore of your electronic genius, I don't care, I would like to see it in
space in the form of a bird that we can talk through. One that just doesn't
beep beep beep . I would be good to see this BBS used for making contacts in
grids ,states and friends.
> Why would anyone want to be a member of Amsat or renew membership?
> See u
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:45:05 -0800
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT
Message-ID: <51189371.6060602@xxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Damon if there is any way you can convince the taxpaying public to
provide the financial assistance necessary to pay for the ride, be OUR
guest.
I have no idea what your experience is with the topic, but I can tell
you mine.
I'm 91 years old, been interested in satellites in general since the
term came into use, and my first contact was on O7 some time in the 80's
and have been
active in one way or another since. Our first rides were free, all the
engineering and construction by volunteers.
And an AMSAT member since its inception......
Can you recommend a way to do that without an organization???
73 Dave WB6LLO
> Does Amst have anything to offer us besides an email BB ?
> Now I guess there will be 2 weeks of RE: emails to this honest question
that we all know the answer to.(nothing but excuses)
> Amsat needs more money, send more money. How much money does Amsat have?
> All these rocket scientist out there and not one of them can bum a
little 6 inch square satellite a ride into space. Please don't dazel me with
anymore of your electronic genius, I don't care, I would like to see it in
space in the form of a bird that we can talk through. One that just doesn't
beep beep beep . I would be good to see this BBS used for making contacts in
grids ,states and friends.
> Why would anyone want to be a member of Amsat or renew membership?
> See u
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:03:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Tom Lubbers K8TL <k8tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat/Sat Link
Message-ID:
<8646966.1360605791614.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Heard a earth/sat/sat/earth signal this morning. at 1550 earth heard YL???
in ko26 in qso with SM7BHE via AO29 on 435860 on CW. Heard both sides of
the CW QSO didn't pick up the pencil fast enough to record the YL full call.
It had to be AO-07 to FO-29 link. Been a lot of years since I have heard a
double link.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:15:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Tom Lubbers K8TL <k8tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Sat/Sat Link
Message-ID:
<691297589.371999.1360606538369.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxxx
xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
That is interesting Tom...I will pay attention to that "coincidence" in the
future.
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lubbers K8TL" <k8tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:03:10 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat/Sat Link
Heard a earth/sat/sat/earth signal this morning. at 1550 earth heard YL???
in ko26 in qso with SM7BHE via AO29 on 435860 on CW. Heard both sides of the
CW QSO didn't pick up the pencil fast enough to record the YL full call. It
had to be AO-07 to FO-29 link. Been a lot of years since I have heard a
double link.
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