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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: hams on ISS (Bob- W7LRD)
   2. Re: New poll for new OSCAR (Robert Bruninga)
   3. HudsonValleySatcomGroupLast net (cotejaune2@xxx.xxxx
   4. Re: New poll for new OSCAR (PE1RDW)
   5. Re: New poll for new OSCAR (Andrew Glasbrenner)
   6. ISS Shadow-Beacon Experiment 145.825 MHz Feb 1-3 (Trevor .)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:38:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: hams on ISS
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Hello ..This is an issue that is no doubt way out of my pay grade. I loosely
used the term "real hams" with regard to amateur operations on the ISS. We
all know what the term implies, if you don't then that is another issue. I
believe they are required to have a amateur ticket. That does not give them
the "burning in the belly" to get WAS, VUCC etc etc. Yes they are short on
time, so are all of us, and look at the time we "make" to do that radio
thing. I had a short QSO many years ago with the ISS, still recall it
vividly. I do not expect any changes, and have long given up on a QSO "up
there". I do get a kick out of watching the ISS go over and watch my sat
array track them. You can not teach "real ham", it is either there or it's
not.
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AJ9N@xxx.xxxx ve3nxk@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:02:50 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] hams on ISS

Charlie, thanks for all your efforts on this...

And of course, the priority should be the School program

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of AJ9N@xxx.xxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:07 PM
To: ve3nxk@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: hams on ISS

Hi all

As part of my volunteer duties with ARISS, I post the schedule of upcoming
ARISS contacts on practically a daily basis. I post to the SAREX BB
(_sarex@xxxxx.xxxx (mailto:sarex@xxxxx.xxxx ). You can also check the
schedule at _http://www.issfanclub.com/_ (http://www.issfanclub.com/) and
at
_http://ariss.rac.ca/_ (http://ariss.rac.ca/) (actually
_http://ariss.rac.ca/upcoming.htm#NextContact_
(http://ariss.rac.ca/upcoming.htm#NextContact) and
look for the link saying Tentative List of Upcoming School Contacts . You
can also go directly to
_http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf_
(http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf) .

In spite of what some may think as to how up to date the schedule is, as
soon as I get updates on the schedule and success of a contact, I usually
have updates posted in less than a day. There are times when we get the
locked down time from the ISS planners for a contact almost at the last
minute so my heads up might be very short. Unfortunately we sometimes find
out about the Russian contacts after the fact and thus I am unable to give
everyone a heads up. Usually we at ARISS get the scheduled date and time
about 10 to 14 days in advance but we warn all schools that we may get told
with less than 36 hours. We have also been aborted with less than 10
minutes to go before a contact.

We are often asked about when the crew is going to make a general contact.
We simply do not know. The crew is super busy and when they do get free
time, they have many things they can do. We can suggest that they get on
the radios; we can never demand. So ham radio may or may not be in their
game plan for that day. By the way, all of the ARISS school contacts
actually take place during a scheduled off time for the crewmember. That
means they either gave up some free time or their day gets extended.

73,
Charlie AJ9N
One of the ARISS mentors


In a message dated 1/30/2013 7:30:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ve3nxk@xxxxx.xxx writes:

On 30/01/2013 9:30 PM, Personal wrote:
> Remember they don't get paid to sit up there on the radio. Remember
> too
that
> ham radio in manned space flight has changed since SAREX and Mir.
> It's no longer the back up system it once was. They have iPods and
> such
aboard
> now. There is Internet access and a telephone to speak with family.

I don't generally get into these types of verbal banter, but this time I
make an exception. Right now a Canadian, Chris Hadfield, is onboard and
doing a great job with pictures and Twitter. I see today that he did a
live feed to a school here in Ontario. The part that bugs me is there were
a few ARISS Ham contact before
Christmas that did not show up till the day of the contact. The Canadian
RAC site
had no mention of it on their site and still is stuck in November.....

I read a lot of AMSAT/ARRL news letters and I have suddenly realized that
the ham community is out of it altogether. It would appear that starting
this year NASA themselves is looking after the contacts. I would have
thought that the ham community would have been in an uproar over this, guess
not.

I know that the chances of hearing or contacting the ISS is like winning
the lottery, but I think now it is long gone. I am disappointed that when
an USA or Russian is onboad you may hear them once or twice. I doubt that
you will ever hear Chris at the mic......... he seems to be caught up in
social media.

> I'm not sure what the definition of a real ham is but too many times
> it
seems
>to be a person stuck in the past, bemoaning the things that used to be

No I do not feel that way, I try all kinds of stuff when I have the time.
Mind
you I see the day when the radio will have an iPhone built in, and we will
no longer need the the communication devices we have now.

Long live the smell of the big tube Collins and Heathkit rigs

Sent from my personal computer.

--
Bill Booth VE3NXK
Sundridge ON, Canada
79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N
FN05ns

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decision can make a difference.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:06:39 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: EU_AMSAT@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
AMSAT - Forum <Forum@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New poll for new OSCAR
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That is easy!.  The answer is of course ALL OF THE ABOVE.

The hard part is what can get built by whom.  And who is in the best
position to FUND it and get it launched.  And then all the polls in the
world mean nothing against what -that-person or entity wants or needs.
And that is what drives what we "get".

Instead of asking what do we "want", maybe a more useful poll might be
"what can you build us?"
Just an aside. <wink>

Bob, Wb4APR


-----Original Message-----
> If you want a new satellite/OSCAR wich payload/communication mode should
it have?
>
>    o Telemetry Beacon
>    o Packet Radio Mailbox/Digipeater
>    o FM Repeater
>    o Linear Transponder
>    o Educational payload
>    o Other payload/mode


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:15:06 -0500 (EST)
From: cotejaune2@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] HudsonValleySatcomGroupLast net
Message-ID: <8CFCDF6082254BD-B98-5C140@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Tonight Jan31@xxx Eastern will be the last Hudson Valley Satcom Group
Net @ 8 PM Eastern on Echolink N2EYH-L and the MtBeacon Repeater
146.970 pl 100. Sad to say this will be our last net. After five and
onehalf years and some 159 Nets this is it for now. If and when we get
more birds up there we may start the net again. I want to thank all of
you who participated on the Nets. So please join us tonight jan31 for
our Net and share your satellite expertise with us. Hope to hear you
there.
73
Gary WA2AQH/Tom KC2DTQ




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:38:31 +0100
From: PE1RDW <sats@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New poll for new OSCAR
Message-ID: <op.wrsgqhr33qy0k1@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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delsp=yes

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:06:39 +0100, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
wrote:

>
> Instead of asking what do we "want", maybe a more useful poll might be
> "what can you build us?"
> Just an aside. <wink>
>
> Bob, Wb4APR
>

Wel that is easy too, you can grab a off the shelf cubesat from from one
of the shops including the power system and put a pe1ruh space proven
linear transponder in it.
now the next question would be funding and flying and that gets us back to
what do the funding people want.

--
73 Andre PE1RDW


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:49:57 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, EU_AMSAT@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx
Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT - Forum <Forum@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New poll for new OSCAR
Message-ID:
<7707787.1359658197473.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Well said Bob. I'll add one more thing: All of these options are available
in existing projects that need our support.

73, Drew KO4MA


-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Jan 31, 2013 1:06 PM
>To: EU_AMSAT@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT -
Forum <Forum@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New poll for new OSCAR
>
>That is easy!.  The answer is of course ALL OF THE ABOVE.
>
>The hard part is what can get built by whom.  And who is in the best
>position to FUND it and get it launched.  And then all the polls in the
>world mean nothing against what -that-person or entity wants or needs.
>And that is what drives what we "get".
>
>Instead of asking what do we "want", maybe a more useful poll might be
>"what can you build us?"
>Just an aside. <wink>
>
>Bob, Wb4APR
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>> If you want a new satellite/OSCAR wich payload/communication mode should
>it have?
>>
>>    o Telemetry Beacon
>>    o Packet Radio Mailbox/Digipeater
>>    o FM Repeater
>>    o Linear Transponder
>>    o Educational payload
>>    o Other payload/mode
>_______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:56:16 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Shadow-Beacon Experiment 145.825 MHz Feb 1-3
Message-ID:
<1359658576.6771.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

See http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=12418

Timetable at http://www.terranimpact.com/site/space/fun.doc

73 Trevor M5AKA




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