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Today's Topics:
1. Re: NIST Phase Noise Measurements Group Noise (Joe Leikhim)
2. SatPC32 Problems Connecting to TS2000 (Richard Lawn)
3. Re: Please make available for Kindle as wel. (Tom Schuessler)
4. Re: NIST Phase Noise Measurements Group Noise Figure (Joe Leikhim)
5. Re: SatPC32 Problems Connecting to TS2000 (Erich Eichmann)
6. Re: NIST Phase Noise Measurements Group Noise Figure (i8cvs)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:57:55 -0500
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NIST Phase Noise Measurements Group Noise
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Domenico;
Your argument certainly makes sense. I think NIST may need to be challenged
on the assertion. Perhaps their report is out of context?
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:13:36 -0500
From: Richard Lawn <rjlawn@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Problems Connecting to TS2000
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I've had intermittent problems with connecting SatPC32 to my TS2000 via
CAT. I finally determined I thought that the Keyspan 4-port USB-Serial hub
was the problem. I've had problems with it in the past so this wasn't a
surprise. I dug out another single Keyspan USB-serial converter, plugged it
in, had to reset the Com port to something higher (17) and tested it first
with Ham Radio Deluxe. Whalla it worked connecting at 57600 baud rate. But
I try to connect to the radio using the same parameters in SatPC32 and no
dice. It tells me that com 17 isn't available. What am I missing. I am
using VSP and could it be that I need to set up a pair. The ultimate goal
is to control both the TS2000 for uplink and my Flex5KA with downconverters
with SatPC32. It worked just fine including the Keyspan hub with my FT847
but not with the Kenwood. What am I missing?
Rick
W2JAZ
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:44:25 -0600
From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <w5ggw@xxxxxxxx.xxx>, "'David Johnson'"
<dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AmsatBB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Please make available for Kindle as wel.
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I understand the problems with e-commerce for Apps. I am willing to pay for
an app that is good and I know that the pay version of HamSatDroid will be
good. Please do provide some means for those of us outside the Google Play
so providing a for pay side load option will be good.
Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg Wonderly [mailto:w5ggw@xxx.xxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:14 AM
To: David Johnson
Cc: Tom Schuessler; AmsatBB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Please make available for Kindle as wel.
One of the most interesting and perhaps frustrating thing about the Android
platform is this "my store", "your store", "no store" interplay between all
the vendors who have created devices using the "open source" Android
platform from Google. With Google producing devices as well, their
ownership of the "Google Play" store, and demand for "paid entry" into that
marketplace, their competitors, Amazon and B&N etc., are reluctant to "play
together".
So, developers are strung out, being forced to participate in multiple
economies, which doesn't scale very well for small operations like you'll
find in HAM radio software teams. Walmart had a $99 or so deal on a Chinese
tablet over Christmas. That tablet had "no store" available to the
purchasers to start with. The only choice was to install the Amazon store
and be locked into that economy. There is, always the opportunity to root
these devices and spend the time and energy to manage the whole thing
yourself. But, without a "Store"
application, you're limited to what you can get, based on what developers
are willing to "give away."
In this day and age, I think we are past the time of "free software". I
think it is important to understand how that diminishes the worth of people
doing good things for HAM radio, to have such expectations.
Certainly, many people have limited incomes, so I understand that to be
natural pressure on the scale of the software economy in HAM radio, overall.
In the end, open source is a great thing, when people have time to give
away, or are using the same software to make money elsewhere. But, all of
these vertical market applications for HAM radio have some very focused
uses, and not very many of them are gold mines in the public markets.
Gregg Wonderly
On 1/16/2013 2:37 AM, David Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We will do our best but we cannot target every platform specifically.
>
> I already build for four google devices. Nexus 1,S,7 & 10.
>
> The kindle fire and Barnes and Noble devices have to be side loaded
> and we would have to set up a download site and PayPal payment
> mechanism for the paid version.
>
> 73
>
> Dave
>
> Since us Kindle users can not directly access the Google Play site,
> please consider making the apps available to us Kindle Fire and Fire
> HD users. I like the functionality and am looking forward to the new
> features.****
>
> ** **
>
> *Tom Schuessler*
>
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:46:39 -0500
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NIST Phase Noise Measurements Group Noise
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I have just sent off an e-mail to David Howe of NIST Metrology
requesting clarification.
I was shocked when I first saw this and posted it a couple places to get
feedback.
Domenico's excellent response further demonstrated that explanation is
required.
I will post NIST's response when I get it.
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 11:19:05 +0100
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
To: "Richard Lawn" <rjlawn@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 Problems Connecting to TS2000
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Rick,
the current SatPC32 version still uses the old MSComm32.OCX component to
manage the serial ports. The component supports only the port numbers 1 to
16. (It is possible to expand the numbers up to 255 by changing a single
byte in the binaray code of the component. However, I don't know whether
that would be legal.)
Meanwhile I have a new component from another manufacturer without that
limitation for a future version and I will probalby soon upload a patch
file.
I have mentioned the issue with the current component and how to fix it in
the FAQs file, see below.
73s Erich, DK1TB
Here the section from the FAQs file:
.......
L. Error message: Can't Open COMxx, Invalid Port number or similar
This error message appears if
1 ....
2. ...
3. the chosen Port has a port number > 16. The tool used by SatPC32 to
manage the serial ports supports only port numbers up to 16. The system,
however, increases the port numbers with each installation of a new port
(i.e. a new USB-to-Serial adapter or if you connect the adapter to another
USB port). So, port numbers can be 17 or higher. To fix the problem, you
can decrease the number of the port you want to use to be 16 or less. To do
this, do the following:
aa. In the Device Manager check which ports are available on the PC.
bb. Right click on the port number (> 16) you want to change.
cc. Choose Properties - Port settings - Advanced.
dd. Open the list of possible COM ports (click on the control to the right
of the port number).
ee. The port numbers 1 - 16 (or at least most of them) will be marked as
"in use". Only the ports listed in the Device Manager are actually in use,
however. Choose one of the port numbers not actually in use. Ignore the
marking "in use" and the Windows warning. The change might require you to
reboot the PC to take effect.
Choose the new port number also in SatPC32 and restart the program.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Lawn" <rjlawn@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:13 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Problems Connecting to TS2000
> I've had intermittent problems with connecting SatPC32 to my TS2000 via
> CAT. I finally determined I thought that the Keyspan 4-port USB-Serial hub
> was the problem. I've had problems with it in the past so this wasn't a
> surprise. I dug out another single Keyspan USB-serial converter, plugged
> it
> in, had to reset the Com port to something higher (17) and tested it first
> with Ham Radio Deluxe. Whalla it worked connecting at 57600 baud rate. But
> I try to connect to the radio using the same parameters in SatPC32 and no
> dice. It tells me that com 17 isn't available. What am I missing. I am
> using VSP and could it be that I need to set up a pair. The ultimate goal
> is to control both the TS2000 for uplink and my Flex5KA with
> downconverters
> with SatPC32. It worked just fine including the Keyspan hub with my FT847
> but not with the Kenwood. What am I missing?
>
> Rick
> W2JAZ
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:29:20 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Joe Leikhim" <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NIST Phase Noise Measurements Group Noise
Figure
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Hi Joe,
Thank you very much for forwarding my observations to David Hove
of NIST Metrology.
I am very interested to know the David Hove response when you get it.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Leikhim" <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:46 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NIST Phase Noise Measurements Group Noise Figure
> I have just sent off an e-mail to David Howe of NIST Metrology
> requesting clarification.
>
> I was shocked when I first saw this and posted it a couple places to get
> feedback.
>
> Domenico's excellent response further demonstrated that explanation is
required.
>
> I will post NIST's response when I get it.
>
> --
> Joe Leikhim
>
>
> Leikhim and Associates
>
> Communications Consultants
>
> Oviedo, Florida
>
> JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
>
> 407-982-0446
>
> WWW.LEIKHIM.COM
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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