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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Indonesian Satellites for 2013 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
2. satellite (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
3. Re: satellite (Andrew Glasbrenner)
4. Re: satellite (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
5. Re: satellite (Kevin Deane)
6. Re: 5.8GHz transmission from NIWAKA (Mike Seguin N1JEZ)
7. Re: 5.8GHz transmission from NIWAKA (Mike Seguin N1JEZ)
8. Amsat satellite (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
9. Re: Amsat satellite (Alan P. Biddle)
10. Road trip 11/12 to 11/16 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
11. IRC's to be discontinued (John Papay)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:45:20 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Indonesian Satellites for 2013
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>I believe the satellites will be launched into a low inclination orbit so
won't be accessible from high latitude countries.
The low inclination orbit is going to be interesting. I expect a strong FM
sat with many passes a day over South America and the Carribean will stoke
some activity. Given that the low latitudes see significantly less access
time to the polar orbiters, it will even things out some.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:56:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite
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When will Amsat America put up a bird we can work??
Damon
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:16:04 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite
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2nd half of 2013
See http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/fox/
73, Drew KO4MA
-----Original Message-----
>From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
>Sent: Nov 7, 2012 3:56 PM
>To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite
>
>When will Amsat America put up a bird we can work??
>Damon
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:17:24 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite
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Damon,
Read this.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/fox/
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid RAZR
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:25:29 -0800
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: "wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite
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Yeah!
Kevin
KF7MYK
> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:56:06 +0000
> From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite
>
> When will Amsat America put up a bird we can work??
> Damon
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:29:32 -0500
From: "Mike Seguin N1JEZ" <n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <tanaka@xxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 5.8GHz transmission from NIWAKA
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Hello Takushi,
Here are the best times for me to listen for FitSat on 5.8 GHz.
My Grid locator is FN34jm.
73,
Mike, N1JEZ
FITSAT 1 == Nov 9, 2012
Time Azimuth Elevation
11:34:33 196.4? 3.6?
11:35:33 188.6? 7.9?
11:36:33 176.8? 12.9?
11:37:33 158.4? 17.8?
11:38:33 133.5? 19.9?
11:39:33 109.4? 17.3?
11:40:33 92.1? 12.4?
11:41:33 81.0? 7.5?
11:42:33 73.7? 3.4?
13:09:33 246.6? 1.2?
13:10:33 248.0? 5.6?
13:11:33 250.3? 11.5?
13:12:33 254.3? 20.5?
13:13:33 264.8? 37.3?
13:14:33 319.1? 63.7?
13:15:33 35.4? 42.9?
13:16:33 49.3? 23.5?
13:17:33 54.1? 13.3?
13:18:33 56.7? 7.0?
13:19:33 58.3? 2.3?
14:46:33 280.7? 0.7?
14:47:33 285.5? 4.6?
14:48:33 292.7? 9.3?
14:49:33 304.2? 15.1?
14:50:33 323.3? 21.5?
14:51:33 351.9? 24.9?
14:52:33 20.5? 21.6?
14:53:33 39.7? 15.2?
14:54:33 51.2? 9.4?
14:55:33 58.4? 4.6?
14:56:33 63.3? 0.8?
FITSAT 1 == Nov 10, 2012
Time Azimuth Elevation
12:16:33 233.7? 0.7?
12:17:33 233.2? 5.0?
12:18:33 232.4? 10.8?
12:19:33 230.7? 19.5?
12:20:33 226.0? 36.0?
12:21:33 190.3? 71.3?
12:22:33 73.9? 49.0?
12:23:33 64.8? 25.5?
12:24:33 62.3? 14.3?
12:25:33 61.2? 7.6?
12:26:33 60.6? 2.8?
13:53:33 272.2? 1.2?
13:54:33 276.7? 5.4?
13:55:33 283.5? 10.5?
13:56:33 294.9? 17.2?
13:57:33 315.5? 25.2?
13:58:33 348.7? 29.2?
13:59:33 20.3? 24.0?
14:00:33 39.1? 16.1?
14:01:33 49.5? 9.7?
14:02:33 55.9? 4.8?
14:03:33 60.1? 0.8?
FITSAT 1 == Nov 11, 2012
Time Azimuth Elevation
11:24:33 218.0? 4.0?
11:25:33 214.1? 9.1?
11:26:33 207.4? 16.3?
11:27:33 193.2? 27.2?
11:28:33 158.1? 40.2?
11:29:33 107.9? 35.9?
11:30:33 83.3? 22.6?
11:31:33 73.0? 13.4?
11:32:33 67.8? 7.2?
11:33:33 64.7? 2.6?
13:00:33 262.4? 2.1?
13:01:33 266.1? 6.6?
13:02:33 272.0? 12.5?
13:03:33 282.8? 21.0?
13:04:33 306.2? 32.6?
13:05:33 350.6? 37.5?
13:06:33 26.3? 27.3?
13:07:33 42.6? 17.0?
13:08:33 50.7? 9.9?
13:09:33 55.5? 4.7?
13:10:33 58.7? 0.6?
14:37:33 290.6? 1.2?
14:38:33 296.0? 5.1?
14:39:33 304.0? 9.8?
14:40:33 316.6? 15.4?
14:41:33 337.0? 21.0?
14:42:33 4.9? 23.0?
14:43:33 30.9? 19.3?
14:44:33 48.3? 13.4?
14:45:33 59.0? 8.1?
14:46:33 66.0? 3.7?
----- Original Message -----
From: <tanaka@xxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 5.8GHz transmission from NIWAKA
> Dear Ham Friends,
>
> We will start the experiments of 5.8GHz transmission of your place.
> Please advice the best time for your place and also let me know your
> latitude and longitude. Details are:
> http://www.fit.ac.jp/~tanaka/fitsat.shtml
> 73
> Takushi JA6AVG
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:57:55 -0500
From: "Mike Seguin N1JEZ" <n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <tanaka@xxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 5.8GHz transmission from NIWAKA
Message-ID: <53BFEC5BF2FF48E48B8D518277696B32@xxxx>
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I should have mentioned these times are UTC.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Seguin N1JEZ" <n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 5.8GHz transmission from NIWAKA
Hello Takushi,
Here are the best times for me to listen for FitSat on 5.8 GHz.
My Grid locator is FN34jm.
73,
Mike, N1JEZ
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:33:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat satellite
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OK this really gets me. Go to space weather.com
A dummy obama can get a free ride into space and tons of cube sats can get
into space,but Amsat has to wait another year and half. All the cub sats are
doing is gathering comm data and they will later ask the FCC and the gov. to
sell them the 70 cm band for there LEO's Remember a few years ago the ARRL
had an artical about hams losing this band to companies that wanted it for
LEO bussiness communications, the same way we lost part of the 220 band
This is not the way people. A dummy obama in space come on. AMSAT you
have to do better Im sorry but this is how I see it
WA4HFN
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:15:17 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Amsat satellite
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Hi,
I am sorry you feel that way as well. Lets consider the facts.
First, the Obama doll was launched on a helium balloon. We could do that in
a few days, if all you want is a repeater that covers a few states for a few
ours. The engineering for a CubeSat which will provide reliable
communications in a hostile radiation environment for years is somewhat more
challenging, time consuming, and far more expensive. :)
Second, getting a launch we can afford, in a useful orbit, is not a simple
or quick task. Many relatively readily available orbits are equatorial with
poor coverage and short lifetimes. It makes little sense to waste our time
and resources there. The kind of orbits we need are not rare, but much less
frequently available.
Finally, there are many paths to space, and not all of them are open to
AMSAT unless we partner with someone who has access. (ITAR restrictions
significantly limit us as well.) Typically, it takes 18-24 months from
approval to launch. AMSAT is on schedule for a launch in 9-12 months, and
is working to keep the pipeline open on a more frequent basis thereafter.
For those with deep pockets such as Three Letter Agencies, quick response is
easier.
Can AMSAT do better? Sure. In retrospect, we can think of things we could
have done earlier, but then that is true of just about any undertaking of
significance.
Hope this clarifies some issues.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:33 AM
To: AMSAT
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat satellite
OK this really gets me. Go to space weather.com
A dummy obama can get a free ride into space and tons of cube sats can get
into space,but Amsat has to wait another year and half. All the cub sats are
doing is gathering comm data and they will later ask the FCC and the gov. to
sell them the 70 cm band for there LEO's Remember a few years ago the ARRL
had an artical about hams losing this band to companies that wanted it for
LEO bussiness communications, the same way we lost part of the 220 band
This is not the way people. A dummy obama in space come on. AMSAT you
have to do better Im sorry but this is how I see it
WA4HFN
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:35:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Road trip 11/12 to 11/16
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I'll be on the road this week between Florida and Denville, New Jersey, and
willing to put any needed grids on the air. My intended route up is I75 to
I10 to I95 to I77 to I81 to I80. I might modify that on the return trip and
depending on nearby requests. If you have a need along that route, drop me
an email. I'm QRV mobile on FO-29, VO-52, AO-7B, and SO-50.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:46:10 -0500
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] IRC's to be discontinued
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The ARRL Letter dated November 8th has an item
about the USPS proposing to discontinue the sale
of IRC's here in the United States. If you are
sending for a QSL card to many countries, the alternative
compensation, American dollar bills, are likely to be stolen by
a postal worker. Your card never makes it and you don't
get one back. IRC's can only be exchanged for stamps so the
likelihood of them being stolen is lessened.
IRC's are available at usps.com so there is no need to have
them stocked or ordered at a local post office. It costs
literally nothing to have them in the online store. If the
sale of IRC's is discontinued here in the US, you will have to
buy them from another country. IRC's must be exchanged for
postage by Universal Postal Union member countries but there
is no requirement that they be sold in member countries.
There is a link in the ARRL Letter that goes to a site where you
can file comments regarding the proposal. The URL is
http://www.regulations.gov/#!submitComment;D=USPS-2012-0101-0001
I did that and made the case for retaining them in the usps.com
store only. Please consider doing the same so we don't have to
buy them overseas.
73,
John K8YSE
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