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Today's Topics:
1. Re: fund raising for Fox (Patrick)
2. Re: FITSAT 5.84GHz received (tanaka@xxx.xx.xxx
3. Re: fund raising for Fox (Dominic Hawken)
4. Fund raising for Fox (Darin Cowan)
5. Re: PRISM HAM Radio Service OPEN (Mineo Wakita)
6. Re: PRISM HAM Radio Service OPEN (Mark L. Hammond)
7. Re: PRISM HAM Radio Service OPEN (Hans Lourens)
8. Re^2: PRISM HAM Radio Service OPEN (Mineo Wakita)
9. Re: fund raising for Fox (i8cvs)
10. fund raising for Fox (mm0kjg)
11. online log (Bob- W7LRD)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 00:49:40 -0400
From: Patrick <flymooney@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: fund raising for Fox
Message-ID: <50837EE4.5030003@xxxxx.xxx>
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On 10/20/2012 06:46 PM, K4FEG wrote:
> I propose that AMSAT-NA start charging to post on the BB. My proposal
> goes something like this;
This proposal, while hopefully in jest, sounds just like a typical
government tax. If there are "X" amount of posts and we charge "Y"
amount per post, then we'll raise "Z" amount of money.... right ??
Because as we all know, everyone continues doing the exact same thing
when a tax is imposed so the amount raised is practically automatic !! :)
> The simple ideas are always the best!
The simple... LOGICAL.. ideas are always the best. :)
Patrick
KA4ZNU
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:18:29 +0900
From: <tanaka@xxx.xx.xx>
To: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx fitsat1@xxxxxxx.xx.xx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FITSAT 5.84GHz received
Message-ID: <20121021051829.00003829.0922@xxx.xx.xx>
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Thank you, Wakita san,
I put the first picture from NIWAKA on the FITSAT-1 page.
http://www.fit.ac.jp/~tanaka/fitsat.shtml
Though the jpeg-picture was broken by data error,
we can see the solar panels of ISS.
73
Takushi
JA6AVG
----- Original Message -----
> Ground Stations say as follows.
>
> At first we think to take down the photograph which FITSAT took at the
> time of release by the first priority. And we test it at the time to
> pass south around 45 degrees of the ground station. The range that we
> can receive is limited at present. We think to have the amateure ham
> of the other countries participate in this experiment of 5.84GHz after
> we took down the photograph which FITSAT took when KIBO released it.
>
> We sent a command last night and took down some image data. Because we
> received it while correcting Doppler by hand, there were quite many
> errors. We were able to restore an image a little when we revised the
> error data by hand. And a solar panel of ISS came out. If we can be
> restored to the original state neatly, we will open it to the public.
>
> JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:48:06 +0000
From: "Dominic Hawken" <dominic@xxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: fund raising for Fox
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Taking suggestions like this seriously (surely it was a joke - sarcasm and
humour can be hard to read) only makes us look foolish.
Dominic.
Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Abraham <jarvideo@xxxxx.xxx>
Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:47:40
To: K4FEG<K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: fund raising for Fox
That's quite a suggestion. But the point of a bulletin board is the free
exchange of knowledge over the internet. If you start charging money to use
the board, that whole concept gets negated. Your idea could work, but I
have the feeling most people would just move to another location that's
free.
73, Josh KJ4VYR
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:46 PM, K4FEG <K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I propose that AMSAT-NA start charging to post on the BB. My proposal goes
> something like this;
>
> to be able to post on the AMSAT-BB, the individual posting must link a
> PayPal account or Valid Credit Card that AMSAT-NA can charge each time that
> they post on the BB.
>
> The fee schedule would be as follows: Members; $1.00 per post,
> Non-members; $1.50 per post, a monthly charge for members of $60.00 per
> month for unlimited posts for that month and non-members a monthly charge
> $100.00 for the same unlimited monthly posting. Then there could be an
> annual charge to members of $500.00 for 1 year of unlimited postings or for
> non-members an annual charge of $750.00 for unlimited postings.
>
> Finally we could sell Lifetime Posting Privileges for a one time fee of
> $5,000.00 for members and non-members a charge of $7,500.00.
>
> These fee schedules are in line with many of the other organizations and
> just think of the funding that could be brought in for launching new
> satellites!!
>
> Heck we could have HEO's, MEO's, LEO's and NEO's. There aren't enough
> engineering schools in the world to help us build the satellites. In the
> last month alone the fees would have funded putting a linear transponder on
> the MOON!
>
> This is just one simple man's idea of how we could raise the money to get
> us some more Satellites in orbit!!
> Heck, we are being charged for everything else why not tap into this
> valuable resource and raise some money for a good cause!
>
> And you folks thought it would be tough to raise the money!
>
> The simple ideas are always the best!
>
> K4FEG
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HV64
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:15:49 -0400
From: "Darin Cowan" <yet.another.squid@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fund raising for Fox
Message-ID: <5083e79d.a696320a.244d.fffff67b@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
While this payment model is somewhat in jest, I would like to suggest that
K4FEG is not wrong. It is the usual practice of organizations with internet
message boards to restrict posting privileges to members only, and to
enforce those restrictions by auditing the list members regularly. This
actually is normal practice, and I am slightly surprised that AMSAT-NA
doesn't do this.
I think this is an excellent idea, is easily doable with free mailing list
and message board software. Since it's his idea, it should be his glory, so
I nominate K4FEG to be AMSAT-BB list maintainer. His duties would be to,
each week, go through the list of active members of all AMSAT organizations
and match them up with the membership of this mailing list, removing people
who aren't members, and reinstating people who are members.
73 de VE3OIJ
-Darin
ve3oij@xxxxx.xxx
K4FEG <K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx> said:
>>I propose that AMSAT-NA start charging to post on the BB. My proposal
>>goes something like this;
>>
>>to be able to post on the AMSAT-BB, the individual posting must link a
>>PayPal account or Valid Credit Card that AMSAT-NA can charge each time
>>that they post on the BB.
>>
>>The fee schedule would be as follows: Members; $1.00 per post, Non-
>>members; $1.50 per post, a monthly charge for members of $60.00 per month
>>for unlimited posts for that month and non-members a monthly charge
>>$100.00 for the same unlimited monthly posting. Then there could be an
>>annual charge to members of $500.00 for 1 year of unlimited postings or
>>for non-members an annual charge of $750.00 for unlimited postings.
.../etc.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:23:03 +0900
From: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PRISM HAM Radio Service OPEN
Message-ID: <046A72D9799A4C12B52A988819B494CC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp";
reply-type=original
Uplink frequency, Command and the other attention are written
in detail. Please click the bottom button.
http://www.space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/prism/en/HAMservice.html
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:52:36 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PRISM HAM Radio Service OPEN
Message-ID: <5083f015.1c85650a.54d8.ffffca97@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Thanks, Mineo.
The issue I was having was that a drop down menu had to be selected. I kept
clicking on AGREE button and nothing happend ;)
Figured it out now, thanks.
Mark N8MH
At 09:23 PM 10/21/2012 +0900, Mineo Wakita wrote:
>Uplink frequency, Command and the other attention are written
>in detail. Please click the bottom button.
>http://www.space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/prism/en/HAMservice.html
>
>JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:07:21 +0200
From: "Hans Lourens" <pa4pcj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Mineo Wakita'" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PRISM HAM Radio Service OPEN
Message-ID: <000001cdaf8d$01e27400$05a75c00$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
No agree from me, this is not in line with ham rules in the "Ham Spirit'
73, PA4PCJ
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Namens
Mineo Wakita
Verzonden: zondag 21 oktober 2012 14:23
Aan: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Onderwerp: [amsat-bb] Re: PRISM HAM Radio Service OPEN
Uplink frequency, Command and the other attention are written in detail.
Please click the bottom button.
http://www.space.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/prism/en/HAMservice.html
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:37:49 +0900
From: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re^2: PRISM HAM Radio Service OPEN
Message-ID: <EC075A20C32246168F8001782BA50212@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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See here,
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/21021pri.png
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:30:48 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "K4FEG" <K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: fund raising for Fox
Message-ID: <000001cdaf98$f690ffc0$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi, K4FEG
In many years of my activity on AMSAT-BB I have seen many time
similar proposals never actuated for a good reason...........in a very
short time the activity on the BB board will became "0" and AMSAT
members and non-members will migrate in a new board that will be
created to communicate for free.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "K4FEG" <K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:46 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] fund raising for Fox
> I propose that AMSAT-NA start charging to post on the BB. My proposal
> goes something like this;
>
> to be able to post on the AMSAT-BB, the individual posting must link a
> PayPal account or Valid Credit Card that AMSAT-NA can charge each time
> that they post on the BB.
>
> The fee schedule would be as follows: Members; $1.00 per post,
> Non-members; $1.50 per post, a monthly charge for members of $60.00 per
> month for unlimited posts for that month and non-members a monthly
> charge $100.00 for the same unlimited monthly posting. Then there could
> be an annual charge to members of $500.00 for 1 year of unlimited
> postings or for non-members an annual charge of $750.00 for unlimited
> postings.
>
> Finally we could sell Lifetime Posting Privileges for a one time fee of
> $5,000.00 for members and non-members a charge of $7,500.00.
>
> These fee schedules are in line with many of the other organizations and
> just think of the funding that could be brought in for launching new
> satellites!!
>
> Heck we could have HEO's, MEO's, LEO's and NEO's. There aren't enough
> engineering schools in the world to help us build the satellites. In the
> last month alone the fees would have funded putting a linear transponder
> on the MOON!
>
> This is just one simple man's idea of how we could raise the money to
> get us some more Satellites in orbit!!
> Heck, we are being charged for everything else why not tap into this
> valuable resource and raise some money for a good cause!
>
> And you folks thought it would be tough to raise the money!
>
> The simple ideas are always the best!
>
> K4FEG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:04:44 +0100
From: mm0kjg <mm0kjg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] fund raising for Fox
Message-ID: <5084393C.9050502@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello all
Lets be honest here If I had to pay to post I would just go elsewhere.
I think I would have to get a part time job and do the Lottery to pay
for it.
Cheers keep up the good Ideas????
Kev a poor Scotsman
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:22:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] online log
Message-ID:
<169762578.135757.1350843725336.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxxx
xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
here's a good resource for satellite ops
http://aar29.free.fr/sat/indexlogin.html
73 Bob W7LRD
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