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Today's Topics:
1. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (Bob- W7LRD)
2. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (i8cvs)
3. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (i8cvs)
4. AO27 UPDATE! (K4FEG)
5. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (John Becker)
6. Re: AO27 UPDATE! (Jim Jerzycke)
7. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (Clayton Coleman)
8. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (Kevin Deane)
9. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (Gus 8P6SM)
10. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (Ben Jackson)
11. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (Gus 8P6SM)
12. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (JoAnne Maenpaa)
13. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (R Oler)
14. Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video (i8cvs)
15. Re: AO27 UPDATE!. Bad news again... (Raidel Abreu Espinet)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:13:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Kauto Huopio OH2LFM <oh2lfm@xxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
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"C" band stuff! I thought "S" band was difficult...I want hard sats not easy
sats!
work em till they vaporize
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kauto Huopio OH2LFM" <oh2lfm@xxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:47:40 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
Just went through my old ham camp videos..
Here is OH2AUE with a P3E transponder demo at SRAL summer camp
2011. In Finnish, but images do the talking :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Awv4oLM78
--Kauto OH2LFM
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:23:09 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: <oh2aue@xxxx.xx>, "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Kauto
Huopio OH2LFM" <oh2lfm@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
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Hi Kauto, OH2LFM and Michael OH2AUE
Congratulations to both of you and expecially to Michael OH2AUE
the designer and builder of the X band transponder
I have seen your OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video and I hope
that the downlink is in the same X band frequency 10450-10452 MHz
as on AO40 because I have my homebrewed downconverter and a
60 cm dish with Chaparral feed tuned for the above frequency band
since AO40 but unfortunately never used because of AO40 problems.
I hope to use it on P3E as soon it will be in orbit.
Please let us know more details on downlink frequency band as well
output power and antenna that AMSAT-DL plan to use on P3E
Thanks
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kauto Huopio OH2LFM" <oh2lfm@xxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:47 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
> Just went through my old ham camp videos..
>
> Here is OH2AUE with a P3E transponder demo at SRAL summer camp
> 2011. In Finnish, but images do the talking :)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Awv4oLM78
>
> --Kauto OH2LFM
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:53:27 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Peter Guelzow" <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>, "Bob- W7LRD"
<w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "Kauto Huopio OH2LFM" <oh2lfm@xxxx.xx>,
<oh2aue@xxxx.xx>, "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
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Hi Bob, W7LRD
Disagree with you because the experimentation in microwave
X band and K band is extremely important for the satellite users
and not difficult because as soon P3E will be in orbit you will
find many stuff ready to work from many manufacturers.
The difficult is not the X band or the K band but to have P3E
safely launched and working as soon as possible.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Kauto Huopio OH2LFM" <oh2lfm@xxxx.xx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:13 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
> "C" band stuff! I thought "S" band was difficult...I want hard sats not
> easy sats! work em till they vaporize
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kauto Huopio OH2LFM" <oh2lfm@xxxx.xx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:47:40 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
>
> Just went through my old ham camp videos..
>
> Here is OH2AUE with a P3E transponder demo at SRAL summer camp
> 2011. In Finnish, but images do the talking :)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Awv4oLM78
>
> --Kauto OH2LFM
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:33:02 -0500
From: K4FEG <K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO27 UPDATE!
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THE FOLLOWING IS FROM THE AO27 WEBSITE WWW.AO27.ORG
PLEASE CHECK THERE FOR FURTHER UPDATES!
Official AO-27 HomePage *Oct 15, 2012*
The command team has finished uploading the high level code to AO-27.
EOS is now running and we are checking out the bird. The TOPR schedule
will be on digital for the entire pass until we collect enough telmetry
and finish the on-orbit checkout.
We hope to have normal operations back up by the weekend.
- Michael, N3UC
K4FEG, EM55
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:04:34 -0500
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
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At 02:13 PM 10/15/2012, you wrote:
>"C" band stuff! I thought "S" band was difficult...I want hard sats not
easy sats!
>
>73 Bob W7LRD
Me too.
Enough with the UHF up and VHF down or vice versa.
John, W0JAB
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:19:01 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO27 UPDATE!
Message-ID: <507C7DC5.5030807@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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That's good to hear.
*IF* it's operational for the JOTA event on Saturday the 20th, I'll try
for a couple of contacts from the USS IOWA.
73, Jim KQ6EA
On 10/15/2012 08:33 PM, K4FEG wrote:
> THE FOLLOWING IS FROM THE AO27 WEBSITE WWW.AO27.ORG
>
> PLEASE CHECK THERE FOR FURTHER UPDATES!
>
> Official AO-27 HomePage *Oct 15, 2012*
> The command team has finished uploading the high level code to AO-27.
> EOS is now running and we are checking out the bird. The TOPR schedule
> will be on digital for the entire pass until we collect enough
> telmetry and finish the on-orbit checkout.
> We hope to have normal operations back up by the weekend.
> - Michael, N3UC
>
>
> K4FEG, EM55
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:55:54 -0500
From: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
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I don't agree with these elitist arguments for intentionally making
things difficult. This "anti-easy-sat" mentality doesn't buy us
anything. Let the dead horse decompose.
Driving innovation and spawning a new generation of experimenters is a
more realistic vision. Create opportunities for people to step
outside their "box" and homebrew equipment. That excites people.
73
Clayton
W5PFG
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:04 PM, John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> At 02:13 PM 10/15/2012, you wrote:
>>"C" band stuff! I thought "S" band was difficult...I want hard sats not
easy sats!
>>
>>73 Bob W7LRD
>
> Me too.
>
> Enough with the UHF up and VHF down or vice versa.
>
> John, W0JAB
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:15:46 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
Message-ID: <COL107-W28210AF66EC40DC8A0769283710@xxx.xxx>
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> >>"C" band stuff! I thought "S" band was difficult...I want hard sats not
easy sats!
> >>
> >>73 Bob W7LRD
> >
> > Me too.
> >
> > Enough with the UHF up and VHF down or vice versa.
> >
> > John, W0JAB
Well that is all fine and dandy, but not everyone has the equipment for
"hard sats" and there are like what 4 people total using the linear birds
now? I am fairly certain I heard complaints about nobody on these sats....
hmmm.
So yeah lets spend a ton of money and whatever else so YOU FOUR can have
your HARD sat and SCREW the rest of the hams right?
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:26:44 -0400
From: Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
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On 10/15/2012 05:55 PM, Clayton Coleman wrote:
> I don't agree with these elitist arguments for intentionally making
> things difficult. This "anti-easy-sat" mentality doesn't buy us
> anything. Let the dead horse decompose.
I don't think anybody actually wants to make things deliberately harder.
But hams have always pushed the boundaries. Going further with less
power and less bandwidth. Fooling around with useless frequencies above
1 MHz. And so forth. And the satellite operator is no different.
It may be easy to reliably work a future generation of satellites with
an HT and a rubber duckie. But that won't be challenging. And we (the
operators) won't be learning anything new.
> Driving innovation and spawning a new generation of experimenters is a
> more realistic vision. Create opportunities for people to step
> outside their "box" and homebrew equipment. That excites people.
Which is a long way of saying "I want hard sats!" :-)
--
73, de Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:18:13 -0400
From: Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
Message-ID: <507CC3E5.3050005@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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On 10/15/2012 8:26 PM, Gus 8P6SM wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 05:55 PM, Clayton Coleman wrote:
>> I don't agree with these elitist arguments for intentionally making
>> things difficult. This "anti-easy-sat" mentality doesn't buy us
>> anything. Let the dead horse decompose.
>
> I don't think anybody actually wants to make things deliberately harder.
> But hams have always pushed the boundaries. Going further with less
> power and less bandwidth. Fooling around with useless frequencies above
> 1 MHz. And so forth. And the satellite operator is no different.
>
> It may be easy to reliably work a future generation of satellites with
> an HT and a rubber duckie. But that won't be challenging. And we (the
> operators) won't be learning anything new.
But instead folks are promoting an anachronism. They're discussing
learning something new at the same time saying we should be using a
technology that has been in use since the 1960s.
So then instead of focusing on linear transponders how about deploying
HSMM nodes into space, TDMA, or DMR technology? (No idea how feasible
any of of this is)
How about something that supports TCP/IP? People were discussing how a
AMSAT could generate interest in a kickstarter for a HEO? Promise a
bunch of hackers and geeks that with a small donation, sitting for a ham
radio test, and buying some kind of kit, they can get a (slow) network
connection in far flung locations I'm feel fairly confident that they
would start hurling their wallets at you screaming "Shut up and take my
money!"
However, the SSB mafia is firmly entrenched in their ways and will
simultaneously bemoan the easy sats, yet pooh-pooh "hard sats" that
won't support the divine mode.
--
Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 00:21:23 -0400
From: Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
Message-ID: <507CE0C3.8010205@xxxx.xxx>
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On 10/15/2012 10:18 PM, Ben Jackson wrote:
>> It may be easy to reliably work a future generation of satellites with
>> an HT and a rubber duckie. But that won't be challenging. And we (the
>> operators) won't be learning anything new.
>
> But instead folks are promoting an anachronism. They're discussing
> learning something new at the same time saying we should be using a
> technology that has been in use since the 1960s.
>
> So then instead of focusing on linear transponders how about deploying
> HSMM nodes into space, TDMA, or DMR technology? (No idea how feasible
> any of of this is)
I'm in favour of all this. But as Robert WB5MZO said, you want to
maximize usability as well. A linear transponder allows more people to
use the satellite, and is probably less demanding on the satellite as
well. I'd like to see a satellite that operated in FM mode around
perigee so simple equipment could work the bird, and as the slant-range
and path losses, as well as the size of coverage circle and potential
numbers of hams within the circle increases, as the bird heads on up to
apogee, it could switch to linear mode.
Newer technology and more advanced modes can be made available for
experiment, either simultaneously, on (say) bands L, S, C, etc, and also
on more accessible bands (U, V) by having the bird switch mode accordingly.
As far as meshed networks, etc, are concerned, I fear that multiple
birds will be necessary (obviously) and I don't know how practical it is
to consider this, when we have so much difficulty getting a single bird
in the sky. But I'm all in favour! If orbits could be coordinated, and
sat-2-sat links established, your uplink could appear as coordinated
downlinks in several parts of the globe simultaneously.
> How about something that supports TCP/IP? People were discussing how
> a AMSAT could generate interest in a kickstarter for a HEO? Promise a
> bunch of hackers and geeks that with a small donation, sitting for a
> ham radio test, and buying some kind of kit, they can get a (slow)
> network connection in far flung locations I'm feel fairly confident
> that they would start hurling their wallets at you screaming "Shut up
> and take my money!"
I'm not convinced that slow TCP/IP is much of an inducement. You may be
right, but I think there are precious few places that you can't obtain
connectivity at a reasonable price, and the places that you CAN'T are
not likely to be inhabited by people who can finance a satellite launch.
I think it is a laudable goal, to make connectivity available in such
locations, but I don't see it as a potential source of funding. But
I've been wrong before...
What I think might work is to build a big satellite, and "rent" or
"sell" space on board to people who want to perform space-born
experiments without messing about with communications hardware. Data
from various experiments can be stored, and downloaded an orbit at a
time as the satellite passes within range of selected amateur
ground-stations. The data can be separated out into individual feeds
for the individual "tenants" and forwarded to them via terrestrial
internet. Telecommand can be via the reverse path. If the satellite is
one that operates at higher altitudes with a longer anticipated
lifespan, educational institutions may find it an opportunity to perform
experiments that a short-lived, LEO bird can't support.
> However, the SSB mafia is firmly entrenched in their ways and will
> simultaneously bemoan the easy sats, yet pooh-pooh "hard sats" that
> won't support the divine mode.
I should be mad at you for making this comment, because I suspect "SSB
mafia" is targeted directly at people just like me. But I'm not mad,
because the other SSB mafia probably feel just as I do. I won't
apologize for enjoying SSB, CW and even RTTY (once, tried but no
response) via satellite. I don't groan about the "easy sats" because
they are "easy sats". I gripe about the fact that there aren't anything
BUT "easy sats". Where are these "hard sats" you mention? And why
DON'T they support the divine mode, damnit?!?? I have a divine-mode
transceiver here that I'd love use, even if as nothing more than a
gateway mode to these "hard sats" you speak of. And if I remember
correctly from my days on the Microsats, the divine mode was the basis
for many digital encoding schemes.
Naturally, I would also enjoy doing some DXing and ragchewing with the
divine mode as well. (Enjoying ragchewing and DXing is, I'm told,
another thing I need to apologize for.)
By the way, what is so easy about these "easy sats?" Don't you have to
stand in the yard, in the dark, with the rain falling on your head,
operating two HTs and a voice recorder with one hand and waving a
broomstick yagi with the other, while your laptop gets wet? In
comparison, sitting back comfortably in my chair, with the mic/key in
one hand, a Planters Punch in the other, the cat in my lap and Fido at
my feet, while I work DX or ragchew with a friend (There! Those
expletives again!) doesn't sound all that hard!
--
73, de Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:55:52 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
Message-ID: <000701cdab5a$85c8ad20$915a0760$@xxx>
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Hello,
> Newer technology and more advanced modes can be made available for
> experiment, either simultaneously, on (say) bands L, S, C, etc, and
> also on more accessible bands (U, V) by having the bird switch mode
> accordingly ... As far as meshed networks ...
Like these designs?
Proposed in 2003 -
http://www.cnssys.com/files/amsat/cc_amsat.pdf
Proposed in 2004 -
http://www.cnssys.com/files/amsat/cc-revisited.pdf
Proposed in 2006 -
http://www.cnssys.com/files/amsat/SDX_and_Future_AMSAT_Missions.pdf
Thing is ... everyone knows we've been looking for a suitable launch since
the dates of these papers. Other cool designs live in the Symposium
Proceedings for AMSAT-Eagle and the Phase IV GEO-Rideshare projects.
Some of the good old days are archived in the "Historical AMSAT-NA Symposium
Proceedings" -
http://www.klofas.com/amsat_symposium/
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:54:07 -0500
From: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>, <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
Message-ID: <COL106-W41590FCEABD5023D42CE3ED6700@xxx.xxx>
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We should in my view have satellites which increase the number of people on
them! Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:07:27 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "R Oler" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
Message-ID: <000001cdab97$183bdc40$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
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Hi Robert, WB5MZO
I have answered off board to your previous letter to me but unfortunately it
was rejected by your provider.
- These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail server:
orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxxx Failed; 4.4.7 (delivery time expired)
Do you have another email address ?
Please let me know
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "R Oler" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>; <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:54 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video
>
> We should in my view have satellites which increase the number of people
> on them! Robert WB5MZO
>
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:12:52 +0200 (CEST)
From: Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO27 UPDATE!. Bad news again...
Message-ID: <28204714.3341.1350367972552.JavaMail.root@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>From the AO-27 website. Bad news again...
---
A Oct 16, 2012 Pass 2
AO-27 has crashed again. Its back at the bootloader.
---
73,
Raydel, CM2ESP
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