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Today's Topics:
1. Dragon Now In Orbit (B J)
2. Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly (B J)
3. Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly (B J)
4. AO7-A (K4FEG)
5. ISS CubeSat Keps + Autumn edition of OSCAR News (Trevor .)
6. Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly (R Oler)
7. Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly (R Oler)
8. Re: AO7-A (Bob- W7LRD)
9. Re: ISS CubeSat Keps (Trevor .)
10. Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly (Joe)
11. Re: AO-27 possible failure (Robert McGwier)
12. Update On Falcon 9 Launch Anomaly (B J)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:52:40 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dragon Now In Orbit
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It was a smooth launch. The spacecraft has separated from the launch
vehicle and the photovoltaic arrays have been deployed. Docking with
the ISS is scheduled for Wednesday.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:13:00 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
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http://nasawatch.com/archives/2012/10/spacex-crs-1-st.html
Additional video:
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2012/10/07/falcon-9-suffers-engine-anomoly/
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:18:44 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
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On 10/8/12, R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Yeah...about 1:20 just as they are going supersonic the number 1 engine
> "rapidly disassembles"...it was hard to see this in real time but you knew
> something was up when they announced a longer burn...26 seconds.
>
> Having said that...I have been in a Boeing when the CF-6 on the starboard
> wing threw blades and the kevlar there worked as well...so this is all in
> all an impressive thing that they rolled past this and went on to orbit
>
> but they will want to understand why (likely) the turbopump came apart
> ...you can in the picture see the nozzle in half and non directed
> "flame"...
>
> I dont know of another multi engine rocket that would have survived this.
> the shuttle probably would not have. Robert WB5MZO
I watched the launch on the Internet and didn't take much notice of
the problem others than the exhaust plume briefly expanding.
Apparently it 's not the first time the Falcon 9 had engine problems
during flight:
http://www.spacenews.com/civil/spacex-acknowledges-falcon-engine-anomaly-durin
g-latest-launch.html
If I recall correctly, during one of the earlier space shuttle
missions, one of the main engines shut down early during launch but
the spacecraft still made it into orbit.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:17:38 -0500
From: K4FEG <K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO7-A
Message-ID: <5072C462.30606@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello Fellow satellite users;
Is anyone operating AO7-a? A few of us "diehard" satellite users are
working AO7-A, the satellite is generally pretty empty, normally I am
just listening to my own signal on the down-link.
Mode A works just as well as Mode B does, you can use your HF beam as a
receiving antenna if need be to copy the down-link. From EM55aj I have
worked 2E1EUB in the U.K., I have worked Hector, CO6CBF, in Cuba and I
have worked HK3MKE in Columbia, the satellite works fine there are just
not many stations there.
If anyone wants to give AO7-A a try drop me an email, I am retired and
have the time to operate and I don't mind the early morning or late in
the evening passes, I have a SKYPE account that I can be reached on as
well: K4FEG_EM55.
We are running out of options here on the satellites and I am not an SWL
so I don't plan on sitting around just waiting for a satellite miracle,
If it's up there and it will receive my transmissions, I am going to try
and operate that satellite!
Remember: Just work them "birds" until the antennas burn off during
re-entry!!
That's my story and I am sticking to it!
73,
Frank; K4FEG EM55aj
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:01:58 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS CubeSat Keps + Autumn edition of OSCAR News
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I see KEPS for six new objects have been added to the end of this list:
http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt
I presume these are the CubeSats deployed on October 4.
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The Autumn (Fall) edition of the AMSAT-UK newsletter OSCAR News is now at
the printers and should be posted to members soon.
See http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=10692 for info on the contents.
73 Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK http://www.amsat-uk.org/
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:03:14 -0500
From: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
Message-ID: <COL106-W3043B957ADC95A364CD057D6880@xxx.xxx>
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Yeah...about 1:20 just as they are going supersonic the number 1 engine
"rapidly disassembles"...it was hard to see this in real time but you knew
something was up when they announced a longer burn...26 seconds.
Having said that...I have been in a Boeing when the CF-6 on the starboard
wing threw blades and the kevlar there worked as well...so this is all in
all an impressive thing that they rolled past this and went on to orbit
but they will want to understand why (likely) the turbopump came apart
...you can in the picture see the nozzle in half and non directed "flame"...
I dont know of another multi engine rocket that would have survived this.
the shuttle probably would not have. Robert WB5MZO
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:13:00 +0000
> From: va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
>
> http://nasawatch.com/archives/2012/10/spacex-crs-1-st.html
>
> Additional video:
>
> http://www.parabolicarc.com/2012/10/07/falcon-9-suffers-engine-anomoly/
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:31:19 -0500
From: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
Message-ID: <COL106-W4814DC759A02EC019745A7D6880@xxx.xxx>
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Greetings...there are engine problems and there are engine problems (grin).
"shutting one down" is one thing but one "coming apart" is another thing.
This is the first time "I" am aware of a vehicle going up the hill has had
an engine come apart including mostly likely losing the engine nozzle...and
the vehicle just keep on going. if you are on facebook come to my page, I
have some stills posted...
Robert Wb5MZO
> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:18:44 +0000
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
> From: va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx
> To: orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx
> CC: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>
> On 10/8/12, R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah...about 1:20 just as they are going supersonic the number 1 engine
> > "rapidly disassembles"...it was hard to see this in real time but you knew
> > something was up when they announced a longer burn...26 seconds.
> >
> > Having said that...I have been in a Boeing when the CF-6 on the starboard
> > wing threw blades and the kevlar there worked as well...so this is all in
> > all an impressive thing that they rolled past this and went on to orbit
> >
> > but they will want to understand why (likely) the turbopump came apart
> > ...you can in the picture see the nozzle in half and non directed
> > "flame"...
> >
> > I dont know of another multi engine rocket that would have survived this.
> > the shuttle probably would not have. Robert WB5MZO
>
> I watched the launch on the Internet and didn't take much notice of
> the problem others than the exhaust plume briefly expanding.
>
> Apparently it 's not the first time the Falcon 9 had engine problems
> during flight:
>
>
http://www.spacenews.com/civil/spacex-acknowledges-falcon-engine-anomaly-durin
g-latest-launch.html
>
> If I recall correctly, during one of the earlier space shuttle
> missions, one of the main engines shut down early during launch but
> the spacecraft still made it into orbit.
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:22:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: K4FEG <K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO7-A
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I also get on mode A Frank and usually just listen to my own downlink...in
addition when the antennas are burning off during re-entry we can do some
meteor scatter on the trails!
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "K4FEG" <K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 5:17:38 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO7-A
Hello Fellow satellite users;
Is anyone operating AO7-a? A few of us "diehard" satellite users are
working AO7-A, the satellite is generally pretty empty, normally I am
just listening to my own signal on the down-link.
Mode A works just as well as Mode B does, you can use your HF beam as a
receiving antenna if need be to copy the down-link. From EM55aj I have
worked 2E1EUB in the U.K., I have worked Hector, CO6CBF, in Cuba and I
have worked HK3MKE in Columbia, the satellite works fine there are just
not many stations there.
If anyone wants to give AO7-A a try drop me an email, I am retired and
have the time to operate and I don't mind the early morning or late in
the evening passes, I have a SKYPE account that I can be reached on as
well: K4FEG_EM55.
We are running out of options here on the satellites and I am not an SWL
so I don't plan on sitting around just waiting for a satellite miracle,
If it's up there and it will receive my transmissions, I am going to try
and operate that satellite!
Remember: Just work them "birds" until the antennas burn off during
re-entry!!
That's my story and I am sticking to it!
73,
Frank; K4FEG EM55aj
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:55:15 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS CubeSat Keps
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--- On Mon, 8/10/12, Trevor . <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> I see KEPS for six new objects have
> been added to the end of this list:
>
> http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt
No they are not the CubeSats 1998-067
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:56:48 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
Message-ID: <507313E0.1000004@xxx.xxx>
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I noticed two things that I found interesting.
The amount of flames that were outside the engine nozzles. When i see
flames like that it brings back memories of another flame where it
should not have been. And the result of that flame.
The other thing I was totally thrown back by the temp of the nozzle on
the second stage! It was white hot all the time during burn. Like WOW!
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 10/8/2012 10:31 AM, R Oler wrote:
> Greetings...there are engine problems and there are engine problems
(grin). "shutting one down" is one thing but one "coming apart" is another
thing. This is the first time "I" am aware of a vehicle going up the hill
has had an engine come apart including mostly likely losing the engine
nozzle...and the vehicle just keep on going. if you are on facebook come to
my page, I have some stills posted...
>
> Robert Wb5MZO
>
>> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:18:44 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Falcon 9 Engine Anomaly
>> From: va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx
>> To: orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx
>> CC: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>
>> On 10/8/12, R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> Yeah...about 1:20 just as they are going supersonic the number 1 engine
>>> "rapidly disassembles"...it was hard to see this in real time but you knew
>>> something was up when they announced a longer burn...26 seconds.
>>>
>>> Having said that...I have been in a Boeing when the CF-6 on the starboard
>>> wing threw blades and the kevlar there worked as well...so this is all in
>>> all an impressive thing that they rolled past this and went on to orbit
>>>
>>> but they will want to understand why (likely) the turbopump came apart
>>> ...you can in the picture see the nozzle in half and non directed
>>> "flame"...
>>>
>>> I dont know of another multi engine rocket that would have survived this.
>>> the shuttle probably would not have. Robert WB5MZO
>> I watched the launch on the Internet and didn't take much notice of
>> the problem others than the exhaust plume briefly expanding.
>>
>> Apparently it 's not the first time the Falcon 9 had engine problems
>> during flight:
>>
>>
http://www.spacenews.com/civil/spacex-acknowledges-falcon-engine-anomaly-durin
g-latest-launch.html
>>
>> If I recall correctly, during one of the earlier space shuttle
>> missions, one of the main engines shut down early during launch but
>> the spacecraft still made it into orbit.
>>
>> 73s
>>
>> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:02:48 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Raydel Abreu Espinet (CM2ESP)" <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 possible failure
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AO-27 computer has crashed. At the VT ground station (with KJ4QLP
operating) we have seen MBL (microbootloader) control interaction
between the spacecraft and the ground (MBLCTL packets). This means
the command station(s) are interacting with a crashed spacecraft
computer.
I do not have ANY inside information. I am reporting only on what I
can see with my own packet decoder....
Bob
N4HY
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Raydel Abreu Espinet (CM2ESP)
<cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> On pass of Oct. 6th at 19:45Z didn't receive any signal. This is so sad!!!
> Hope it can be fixed soon. All the best wishes and luck to the command and
> control team.
>
> Raydel, CM2ESP
> EL83sc
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Papay" <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 4:38 PM
>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 possible failure
>
>
>> AO-27 sent data after the repeater mode expired on
>> the 1835utc pass, 5 October. 50 seconds into the data,
>> the "mark/space" toggling stopped and a "mark" only tone
>> was heard. That tone was heard for 4-1/2 minutes until
>> the signal was lost when the bird went over the horizon.
>> A recording of the entire pass is on my website:
>> http://www.papays.com/sat/general.html
>>
>> AO-27 was not heard in EN91 on the scheduled 2015utc pass.
>> I think my receiver is working fine but maybe it wasn't.
>> Let's hope it can be recovered. An email was sent to N3UC
>> and a message was left on his home phone.
>>
>> Any reports from other locations?
>> 73,
>> John K8YSE
>>
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>
>
> Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que
> ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros para
> respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizacion y su politica
> informativa. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
> servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
>
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--
Bob McGwier
Owner and Technical Director, Allied Communication, LLC
Facebook: N4HYBob
ARS: N4HY
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:11:39 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Update On Falcon 9 Launch Anomaly
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http://www.parabolicarc.com/2012/10/08/spacex-protective-faring-reptured-after
-engine-shutdown/
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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