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Today's Topics:
1. Euroluna Google Lunar X-Prize Quarterly Update (Trevor .)
2. OSC pico's (R Oler)
3. Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters (Andrew Glasbrenner)
4. Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
(Andrew Glasbrenner)
5. Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
(Gus 8P6SM)
6. Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
(Arthur Feller)
7. Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
(Stefan Wagener)
8. Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
(Tony Langdon)
9. Re: FITSAT-1 deployment (tanaka@xxx.xx.xxx
10. Japan AO-7A (Bill W1PA)
11. Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
(Arthur Feller)
12. Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
(Arthur Feller)
13. Re: Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
(Gordon JC Pearce)
14. Re: Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters (Trevor .)
15. Re: Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters (John / NS1Z)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 20:35:01 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Euroluna Google Lunar X-Prize Quarterly Update
Message-ID:
<1349292901.49447.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
The President of Euroluna, Palle Haastrup OZ1HIA, provides a video update on
the progress of the Euroluna Google Lunar X-Prize team who are aiming to
land a rover on the Moon.
Their first amateur radio spacecraft Romit-1 is a 2U CubeSat that will
transmit on 437.505 MHz. It will be fitted with an Ion Motor capable of
raising the orbit from 310 km to 700 km.
Watch the videos at http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=10731
73 Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK http://www.amsat-uk.org/
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:33:43 -0500
From: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] OSC pico's
Message-ID: <COL106-W37050F09C1EC4972C62AC4D6850@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
For the debut mission, Antares will carry a Cygnus mass simulator
payload that will be heavily instrumented to gather data on the launch
environment aboard Antares. In addition, four small ?pico satellites?
will be deployed from two dispensers that will be integrated with the
mass simulator.
>From NASAspaceflight.com
Someone got some payload on the test flight Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 20:47:03 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT Advisors <Advisors@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
Message-ID: <F5DC56CF-D365-4CF9-A321-C15F7880BD8C@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_
seq=50076&RequestTimeout=1000
Am I reading this right? A commercial s/c operating on 145.825???? This is
the camels nose under the tent, using our own packet network for automated
telemetry?
I can understand the uni cubesats on UHF, butthis is OUR primary allocation.
We really need to protest this vehemently if they were approved.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 20:52:26 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT
Advisors <Advisors@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on
2meters
Message-ID: <2D93D969-36AC-46E7-9A23-72E4B1497DEF@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=220
And evidently coordinated by IARU!
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_
seq=50076&RequestTimeout=1000
>
> Am I reading this right? A commercial s/c operating on 145.825???? This is
the camels nose under the tent, using our own packet network for automated
telemetry?
>
> I can understand the uni cubesats on UHF, butthis is OUR primary
allocation. We really need to protest this vehemently if they were approved.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA
> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:58:44 -0400
From: Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT
Advisors <Advisors@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on
2meters
Message-ID: <506CDF44.7010003@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 10/03/2012 08:52 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=220
>
> And evidently coordinated by IARU!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
>>
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_
seq=50076&RequestTimeout=1000
>>
>> Am I reading this right? A commercial s/c operating on 145.825???? This
is the camels nose under the tent, using our own packet network for
automated telemetry?
>>
>> I can understand the uni cubesats on UHF, butthis is OUR primary
allocation. We really need to protest this vehemently if they were approved.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA
>> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod
Seems like we're all about to receive an education!
--
73, de Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:21:25 -0400
From: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
To: Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT
Advisors <Advisors@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on
2meters
Message-ID: <5563734E-BD58-4AF2-A51C-CD3977A824BE@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi,
The role of the IARU frequency coordination process seems to be misunderstood.
The IARU Administrative Council tells the Satellite Advisor and his Panel to
recommend frequencies for everyone who comes with a request in order to keep
some order in the band.
The Satellite Advisor and Panel have no authority at all, particularly to
decide which projects qualify for the amateur-satellite service and which do
not, though we often raise our concern in coordination letters.
All authority rests with national administrations; not with IARU and not
with ITU.
If you do not like what you see, let the authorizing administration (FCC)
know and why, in detail, citing rules and regulations in a way to be
persuasive.
I hope this helps.
73, art?..
W4ART Arlington VA
On 3-Oct-2012, at 08:58 PM, Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> On 10/03/2012 08:52 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=220
>>
>> And evidently coordinated by IARU!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Andrew
Glasbrenner<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_
seq=50076&RequestTimeout=1000
>>>
>>> Am I reading this right? A commercial s/c operating on 145.825???? This
is the camels nose under the tent, using our own packet network for
automated telemetry?
>>>
>>> I can understand the uni cubesats on UHF, butthis is OUR primary
allocation. We really need to protest this vehemently if they were approved.
>>>
>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA
>>> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod
>
> Seems like we're all about to receive an education!
>
> --
> 73, de Gus 8P6SM
> The Easternmost Isle
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Public opinion rarely considers the needs of the next generation or the
history of the last. It is frequently hampered by myths and misinformation,
by stereotypes and shibboleths, and by an inate resistance to innovation.
-Theodore C. Sorensen, presidential advisor, lawyer, and writer
(1928-2010)
http://afeller.us
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 22:06:05 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT
Advisors <Advisors@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on
2meters
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHAPn=e0Qkj+NCfRDtG+OLi9wjWxDEn-QBEco5u0V59jdA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Thanks Art,
Point well made. Now out of curiosity, did the IARU raise concerns about
this specific request?
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The role of the IARU frequency coordination process seems to be
> misunderstood.
>
> The IARU Administrative Council tells the Satellite Advisor and his Panel
> to recommend frequencies for everyone who comes with a request in order to
> keep some order in the band.
>
> The Satellite Advisor and Panel have no authority at all, particularly to
> decide which projects qualify for the amateur-satellite service and which
> do not, though we often raise our concern in coordination letters.
>
> All authority rests with national administrations; not with IARU and not
> with ITU.
>
> If you do not like what you see, let the authorizing administration (FCC)
> know and why, in detail, citing rules and regulations in a way to be
> persuasive.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> 73, art?..
> W4ART Arlington VA
>
>
>
>
> On 3-Oct-2012, at 08:58 PM, Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > On 10/03/2012 08:52 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> >> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=220
> >>
> >> And evidently coordinated by IARU!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner<
> glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
>
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_
seq=50076&RequestTimeout=1000
> >>>
> >>> Am I reading this right? A commercial s/c operating on 145.825????
> This is the camels nose under the tent, using our own packet network for
> automated telemetry?
> >>>
> >>> I can understand the uni cubesats on UHF, butthis is OUR primary
> allocation. We really need to protest this vehemently if they were approved.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Drew KO4MA
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA
> >>> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod
> >
> > Seems like we're all about to receive an education!
> >
> > --
> > 73, de Gus 8P6SM
> > The Easternmost Isle
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> Public opinion rarely considers the needs of the next generation or the
> history of the last. It is frequently hampered by myths and misinformation,
> by stereotypes and shibboleths, and by an inate resistance to innovation.
> -Theodore C. Sorensen, presidential advisor, lawyer, and writer
> (1928-2010)
>
>
>
> http://afeller.us
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:47:49 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>, Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT
Advisors <Advisors@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on
2meters
Message-ID: <506d06ee.85e9440a.7388.523e@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
At 11:21 AM 10/4/2012, Arthur Feller wrote:
>If you do not like what you see, let the authorizing administration
>(FCC) know and why, in detail, citing rules and regulations in a way
>to be persuasive.
Well, it would seem to go against the definition of the Amateur and
Amateur Satellite Service.
From the FCC website (after 10 seconds of Googling :) )
"Amateur Radio Service
The amateur and amateur-satellite services are for qualified persons
of any age who are interested in radio technique solely with a
personal aim and without pecuniary interest. These services present
an opportunity for self-training, intercommunication, and technical
investigations. You can read more about amateur radio services
including information about the Sequential Call Sign System, vanity
call signs, communications, and more."
How does a commercial satellite fall under the "without pecuniary
interest" part?
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:53:43 +0900
From: <tanaka@xxx.xx.xx>
To: <tanaka@xxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FITSAT-1 deployment
Message-ID: <20121004045343.00005EA2.0696@xxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: Text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Five cubesats are deployed from ISS on 4th October.
> FITSAT-1 is deployed around 15:40-45 (UTC).
Please watch live:
http://iss.jaxa.jp/iss/jaxa_exp/hoshide/library/live/
The first starts at 14:10. (UTC)
The second starts at 15:25.
--
Takushi Tanaka
JA6AVG
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 13:59:33 +0900
From: "Bill W1PA" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Japan AO-7A
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds15D69B91B6A1F5DEBE507098840@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
In the right place, but no rigs or reciprocal licensing. :-)
Bill W1PA/JA (shin-yokohama)
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 23:15:42 -0400
From: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT
Advisors <Advisors@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on
2meters
Message-ID: <B723AB93-488C-42D1-A9BD-2178D0A76BFA@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Thanks, Stephan. The whole process is described at:
http://www.iaru.org/satellite in a paper called "Amateur Satellites."
Suggest reading it.
I'd have to find the coordination letter to know what was said, as I've got
a less than wonderful memory. Will look around if I can.
73, art?..
W4ART Arlington VA
On 3-Oct-2012, at 11:06 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Thanks Art,
>
> Point well made. Now out of curiosity, did the IARU raise concerns about
this specific request?
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The role of the IARU frequency coordination process seems to be
misunderstood.
>
> The IARU Administrative Council tells the Satellite Advisor and his Panel
to recommend frequencies for everyone who comes with a request in order to
keep some order in the band.
>
> The Satellite Advisor and Panel have no authority at all, particularly to
decide which projects qualify for the amateur-satellite service and which do
not, though we often raise our concern in coordination letters.
>
> All authority rests with national administrations; not with IARU and not
with ITU.
>
> If you do not like what you see, let the authorizing administration (FCC)
know and why, in detail, citing rules and regulations in a way to be
persuasive.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> 73, art?..
> W4ART Arlington VA
>
>
>
>
> On 3-Oct-2012, at 08:58 PM, Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > On 10/03/2012 08:52 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> >> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=220
> >>
> >> And evidently coordinated by IARU!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Andrew
Glasbrenner<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_
seq=50076&RequestTimeout=1000
> >>>
> >>> Am I reading this right? A commercial s/c operating on 145.825????
This is the camels nose under the tent, using our own packet network for
automated telemetry?
> >>>
> >>> I can understand the uni cubesats on UHF, butthis is OUR primary
allocation. We really need to protest this vehemently if they were approved.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Drew KO4MA
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA
> >>> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod
> >
> > Seems like we're all about to receive an education!
> >
> > --
> > 73, de Gus 8P6SM
> > The Easternmost Isle
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> Public opinion rarely considers the needs of the next generation or the
history of the last. It is frequently hampered by myths and misinformation,
by stereotypes and shibboleths, and by an inate resistance to innovation.
> -Theodore C. Sorensen, presidential advisor, lawyer, and writer
(1928-2010)
>
>
>
> http://afeller.us
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
Public opinion rarely considers the needs of the next generation or the
history of the last. It is frequently hampered by myths and misinformation,
by stereotypes and shibboleths, and by an inate resistance to innovation.
-Theodore C. Sorensen, presidential advisor, lawyer, and writer
(1928-2010)
http://afeller.us
------------------------------
Message: 12
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 23:21:04 -0400
From: Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT
Advisors <Advisors@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [Bod] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on
2meters
Message-ID: <311A6C92-D242-430D-B1D5-D639D305D155@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi again, Stephan,
Found the coordination letter. Issues relating to qualification for an
amateur service and for operating an amateur station on behalf of an
employer were raised. In the end, the matter is in FCC's hands.
73, art?..
W4ART Arlington VA
On 3-Oct-2012, at 11:06 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Thanks Art,
>
> Point well made. Now out of curiosity, did the IARU raise concerns about
this specific request?
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The role of the IARU frequency coordination process seems to be
misunderstood.
>
> The IARU Administrative Council tells the Satellite Advisor and his Panel
to recommend frequencies for everyone who comes with a request in order to
keep some order in the band.
>
> The Satellite Advisor and Panel have no authority at all, particularly to
decide which projects qualify for the amateur-satellite service and which do
not, though we often raise our concern in coordination letters.
>
> All authority rests with national administrations; not with IARU and not
with ITU.
>
> If you do not like what you see, let the authorizing administration (FCC)
know and why, in detail, citing rules and regulations in a way to be
persuasive.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> 73, art?..
> W4ART Arlington VA
>
>
>
>
> On 3-Oct-2012, at 08:58 PM, Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > On 10/03/2012 08:52 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> >> http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=220
> >>
> >> And evidently coordinated by IARU!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Oct 3, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Andrew
Glasbrenner<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_
seq=50076&RequestTimeout=1000
> >>>
> >>> Am I reading this right? A commercial s/c operating on 145.825????
This is the camels nose under the tent, using our own packet network for
automated telemetry?
> >>>
> >>> I can understand the uni cubesats on UHF, butthis is OUR primary
allocation. We really need to protest this vehemently if they were approved.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Drew KO4MA
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Via the BOD mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA
> >>> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/bod
> >
> > Seems like we're all about to receive an education!
> >
> > --
> > 73, de Gus 8P6SM
> > The Easternmost Isle
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> Public opinion rarely considers the needs of the next generation or the
history of the last. It is frequently hampered by myths and misinformation,
by stereotypes and shibboleths, and by an inate resistance to innovation.
> -Theodore C. Sorensen, presidential advisor, lawyer, and writer
(1928-2010)
>
>
>
> http://afeller.us
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
Public opinion rarely considers the needs of the next generation or the
history of the last. It is frequently hampered by myths and misinformation,
by stereotypes and shibboleths, and by an inate resistance to innovation.
-Theodore C. Sorensen, presidential advisor, lawyer, and writer
(1928-2010)
http://afeller.us
------------------------------
Message: 13
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:09:50 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
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On 04/10/12 01:47, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_
seq=50076&RequestTimeout=1000
>
> Am I reading this right? A commercial s/c operating on 145.825????
> This is the camels nose under the tent, using our own packet network
> for automated telemetry?
>
> I can understand the uni cubesats on UHF, butthis is OUR primary
> allocation. We really need to protest this vehemently if they were
> approved.
The other way to look at this is, they have the wherewithal to get
something launched and we don't. If they play nice, we'll play nice.
It's no extra hassle to receive and pass on the downlink telemetry from
this sat, and hey maybe if they fly a bent pipe for us on the next one
we'll help them out even more!
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:26:23 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT Advisors <Advisors@xxxxx.xxx>, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
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--- On Thu, 4/10/12, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> but this is OUR primary allocation. We really need to protest this
> vehemently if they were approved.
An issue relating to non-amateur satellites that are issued 437 MHz
experimental licenses by the FCC or other national regulator is the use of
Primary amateur frequencies at 145 MHz for command and control purposes.
The use of Primary amateur frequencies (145 uplink) to communicate with and
control a non-amateur commercial or scientific satellite is just as much a
problem as downlinks in a Primary allocation.
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:15:52 -0400
From: "John / NS1Z" <ns1zjohn@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
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Although this guy should know better it is the IARU that really needs a wake
up call:
"The Amateur frequency has already been coordinated by the IARU. "
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:47 PM
To: AMSAT Advisors
Cc: AMSAT BoD ; Amsat BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Experimental COMMERCIAL spacecraft on 2meters
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_
seq=50076&RequestTimeout=1000
Am I reading this right? A commercial s/c operating on 145.825???? This is
the camels nose under the tent, using our own packet network for automated
telemetry?
I can understand the uni cubesats on UHF, butthis is OUR primary allocation.
We really need to protest this vehemently if they were approved.
73, Drew KO4MA
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