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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Fox Delta SP-2 (Bob- W7LRD)
2. Re: Fox Delta SP-2 (Dale Hershberger)
3. Re: dismantling satellite antennas (Joe Leikhim)
4. Re: Satellites (Bob- W7LRD)
5. Re: 22% votes (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
6. FW: [keps] orb12264.2l.amsat (Tom Schuessler)
7. Re: dismantling satellite antennas (TuZZio)
8. Re: Fox Delta SP-2 (Vu Trong Thu)
9. Re: dismantling satellite antennas (John Spasojevich)
10. Re: dismantling satellite antennas (Art McBride)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:24:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: K&R Yoksh <yokshs@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fox Delta SP-2
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I would suggest the LVB tracker, AMSAT gets all the money. We're going to
need millions for the next HEO.
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "K&R Yoksh" <yokshs@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 3:30:23 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Delta SP-2
Hi,
I'm considering buying a Fox Delta SP-2 to control my rotators. Any
suggestions / reviews?
http://foxdelta.com/products/st2.htm
Thanks,
73
Kyle
K0KN
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:36:43 -0800
From: Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Eric Thompson <n6spp@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fox Delta SP-2
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I agree with Bob. The LVB tracker works
great and AMSAT gets the proceeds...
Dale - KL7XJ
On 9/22/2012 6:24 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
> I would suggest the LVB tracker, AMSAT gets all the money. We're going to
need millions for the next HEO.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K&R Yoksh" <yokshs@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 3:30:23 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Delta SP-2
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm considering buying a Fox Delta SP-2 to control my rotators. Any
> suggestions / reviews?
>
> http://foxdelta.com/products/st2.htm
>
> Thanks,
>
> 73
>
> Kyle
> K0KN
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 22:49:31 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: dismantling satellite antennas
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I could not agree with you more John. But, I think I am seeing same folks
griping from at least 7 years ago. Maybe it is time for an AMSAT members
only BB.
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:00:57 -0500
From: John Spasojevich<johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs<domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: dismantling satellite antennas
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Then I guess we won't have to read any more complaining e-mail anymore
John, AG9D
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Joe Leikhim
K4SAT
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:51:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Gus 8P6SM <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellites
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I'm grateful to the old curmudgeons who show up here often. Keeping the
concept of MEO/HEO L/S band alive is essential. My AO-40 sobsob) gear is in
moth balls, just waiting. Yep, Work 'em till they fall out of the sky!
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus 8P6SM" <8p6sm@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:21:06 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellites
On 09/22/2012 06:55 PM, K4FEG wrote:
> WORK 'EM TIL THEY FALL OUT OF THE SKY!
Absolutely!
When I was active on satellite, we had multiple, digital, store 'n'
forward PacSats, each with several simultaneous uplink frequencies. We
had single-channel FM birds operating at LEO so people could work them
with HTs. We had LEO and HEO birds with linear transponders with
pass-bands 100k wide or more. You could QSO with Russian Robots. You
could work Mode-A, -B, -J, -L and -S. Even, as I did a few times, B/S
(no BS!). Some of these birds would come up over the hill and hang
there in the sky for 4, 6, maybe even 8 hours at a time. There were
birds with communications ranges of more than 15,000 Km.
Over and above the communications capabilities, most satellites were
also experimental platforms of some sort or another. Testing memory
error correction software. Testing tantalum and brass shielding for
delicate circuitry. Running beacons at extremely high frequencies.
All of this TWENTY years ago.
Nowadays... what? We have a handful of single-channel FM birds, and a
handful of linear transponders, all at LEO. The youngest of these is
seven years old. The remainder are all in double-digits, with La Grande
Dame an incredible THIRTY EIGHT years old!
Ok, so forgive me if I suffer from OFS (Old Fart Syndrome) which
occasionally causes a droplet to fall from my eye. But it is
embarrassing to consider how much PROGRESS we've made in the last twenty
years.
The amateur satellite community were the first to try lots of new launch
technology, and to bear the risk of those tests. Those technologies now
earn millions for the launch providers every year, but we don't earn a
cent and we certainly don't rate even the occasional free ride. We have
no friends in those launch providers. We have no friends in NASA,
apparently. We have no friends in government. We have nothing much,
really.
Except we have a spectrum allocation. One that every Tom, Dick and
Harry seems to want to use. Yet we can't leverage this into anything of
any particular value to us? Year after year, launch after launch, we
hear about educational Yawn-Sats with "amateur payloads" that are really
the satellite operators running telemetry and telecommand on OUR
frequencies and giving nothing back in return. How that continues to
happen, I can't even begin to guess. If it were up to a dummy like me
there would be NO MORE LAUNCHES using amateur frequencies, unless they
carried a GENUINE amateur payload as part of the flight hardware. (Or
at least made a fat donation to a launch-fund, but that's probably
illegal.) Thank goodness there are smarter people out there who
wouldn't make the sort of mistake I would! Because allowing them to use
our frequencies entirely for their own purposes, year after year, is
hailed as the best and only way forward.
So yes, my friend. Work 'em while they're there! Because it sure don't
look like we are going to get any more. And even if we do, don't expect
to get anything even REMOTELY as advanced as we used to have, two
decades ago. Nowadays, ker-chunking a flying repeater is the absolute
height of satellite sophistication!
Sorry, gotta go. Droplets are leaking from my eyes again.
--
73, de Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:16:48 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 22% votes
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Hi!
Since this discussion started around the topic of the 700
ballots AMSAT-NA received for the Board election, let me
add one point to that thought. Thanks to those who voted
in the election, whether or not you voted for me. Thanks
for taking the time to consider each person who was on the
ballot, and for selecting the person or persons you voted
for.
> Amsat is living in a brave new world where launches are fully commercialized
> and nobody gets a free ride anymore. We will either adapt to that paradigm
> shift or we will cease to exist.
This is the point some want to overlook. It is unfortunate
that we are not able to get the free or extremely cheap
launches that we had in the past. When there are more
satellites to be launched than launches, the launch providers
set the prices. Other than some opportunities like AMSAT
has for Fox-1 from NASA, the days of free launches are
pretty much a thing of the past. So we adapt to the new
reality.
> AO-40 was a once in a lifetime opportunity. ESA offered us a 600 kilogram
ride
> on one of the first Ariane 5 vehicles and we voted to go for it. The reasons
> for AO-40's failure have been covered before, and further analysis will not
> add to the discussion. It is not a mistake to throw deep sometimes. If AO-40
> had worked as designed, it would have revolutionized amateur radio. We
gambled
> and lost and we will most likely never see another 600 kg launch
opportunity.
>
> The Eagle project was started about a decade ago in hope of launching a more
> modest HEO replacement for AO-40, and to be able to do so on a regular basis
> so that a single satellite failure would not ground the entire program. This
> effort was overtaken by the tidal wave of cubesats. With every single
> university on Earth launching a cubesat all of the available launch
> opportunities are filled with pea-pod launchers and there is no room for
> Eagle, unless someone writes a check for $10 million.
Even before the late-2000s global financial crisis, AMSAT-NA was
not receiving a steady stream of contributions to support the Eagle
project. Add in the ITAR regulations that have put a serious crimp
on how US hams can interact with the rest of the world on satellite
projects, things have changed - and not for the better. ITAR also
got in the way of US hams and AMSAT-NA helping AMSAT-DL
with Phase-3E. Take a look at the AMSAT-NA Fox PayPal widget
and how much it is up to. It will be helpful for Fox, but AMSAT-NA
needs a whole lot more to begin talking about an HEO project. It's
unfortunate, but that's what we're up against.
If AMSAT-NA decided to build an HEO satellite without an airtight
guaranteed launch opportunity or funding for a launch, this would
be a most irresponsible move on the part of the AMSAT-NA Board.
AMSAT-NA cannot, and should not, start an HEO project in the
hopes there will be a launch opportunity or the funding for a launch
that will show up when the satellite is ready. We'd end up with a
satellite that sits on a lab shelf somewhere, just like Phase-3E,
and the AMSAT-NA Board would deserve to be run out of town
for an expenditure like that going nowhere. With this in mind, and
the previous Eagle project's failure to attract the needed
contributions, AMSAT-NA is proceeding with the Fox project and
other efforts for launches or projects where an amateur payload
can ride along on other satellites. AMSAT-DL is proceeding with
its efforts to find a launch opportunity, and I hope they are
successful. The same is true for AMSAT-UK and the FUNcube,
the New Zealand KiwiSAT project, among others.
Many of you have heard me talk about the fun I have had working the
satellites over the past few years. I never had the opportunity to work
the HEO satellites we had. If Phase-3E, or some other HEO satellite,
were to be launched - I'd enjoy the work to change my station so it
could use that satellite. Until then, I will enjoy working the satellites
we have - all LEO, SSB and even FM, despite not holding a Technician
license anymore.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 00:11:48 -0500
From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [keps] orb12264.2l.amsat
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I have asked the question before and never really got an answer so I am
asking it again.
Ray Hoad, WA5QGD, keeper of the AMSAT Keps distribution, works pretty hard
to aggregate the keps for the different satellites, some pure Ham, some
University Cubesats, a few weather sats and even the Hubble telescope. Well
even though these orbital elements come out on a weekly basis, the "Passes"
page of the AMSAT.org web site does not include any of the new satellites
beyond HO-68.
My request is that our web master please update the dropdown script to match
the current keps distribution so that users of the site can easily find pass
times for all the newer satellites out there.
Thanks and 73
Tom, N5HYP
-----Original Message-----
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Ray Hoad
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:57 PM
To: KEPS
Subject: [keps] orb12264.2l.amsat
SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORB12264.N
2Line Orbital Elements 12264.AMSAT
HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT FROM WA5QGD
FORT WORTH,TX September 20, 2012
BID: ORB12264.N
DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY:
1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ
2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ
KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN
G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
AO-07
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2 07530 101.4097 258.1445 0012099 094.8200 265.4259 12.53591471732005
FO-29
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2 24278 098.5882 352.7670 0351012 142.3073 220.3302 13.52989333794858
SO-33
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2 25509 031.4347 157.8292 0352674 311.8232 045.2742 14.28811648726200
RS-22
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2 27939 097.8046 100.4444 0013014 327.9227 032.1183 14.64131813479835
VO-52
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2 28650 097.5902 289.9610 0027609 090.2054 270.2328 14.83178198398974
HO-68
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UO-11
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2 14781 097.9450 322.3862 0010185 085.7684 274.4692 14.80560597533927
AO-16
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LO-19
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AO-27
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2 22825 098.5822 206.1492 0008656 005.1445 354.9831 14.29486675990130
IO-26
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2 22826 098.5767 206.4787 0009170 358.9383 001.1778 14.29762389990265
GO-32
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2 25397 098.3732 237.7814 0001924 040.4249 319.7079 14.23293203737463
NO-44
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2 26931 067.0496 237.1461 0006418 254.6123 105.4269 14.29828629572733
SO-50
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2 27607 064.5601 004.2342 0076880 229.4768 129.9620 14.72515572524030
CO-55
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2 27844 098.7064 270.5702 0009313 316.5936 043.4506 14.21072719478299
CO-57
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2 27848 098.7124 269.9649 0009272 321.7165 038.3347 14.20818012478231
AO-51
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2 28375 098.1587 224.7930 0084113 113.6187 247.3853 14.40987442432404
CP3
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2 31129 097.8835 266.7678 0100658 185.5638 174.4446 14.53208556287833
CO-65
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2 32785 097.7892 322.6070 0015916 111.1234 249.1660 14.83189325237794
PRISM
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2 33493 098.1840 047.6705 0018632 350.8744 009.2140 14.84331568197921
SOHLA-1
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2 33496 098.1127 015.0758 0007722 098.4721 261.7360 14.70042847196165
SO-67
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2 35870 097.2245 297.1592 0002249 146.2661 324.6715 15.24532243167173
TISAT-1
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2 36799 098.0568 341.7541 0013890 219.3068 140.7156 14.82248082118640
STUDSAT
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2 36801 098.0630 342.0089 0011655 209.6174 150.4376 14.85131728118566
FO-69
1 37227U 0 12264.18928652 .00000351 00000-0 57406-4 0 02872
2 37227 071.9681 102.3098 0016478 148.6454 211.5694 14.77169783050125
FO-70
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2 37380 071.9712 102.9407 0016856 145.1543 215.0726 14.76919445050011
ALMASAT-1
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2 38078 069.4762 100.4424 0743532 129.0715 237.9195 14.12368769 31025
XATCOBEO
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2 38082 069.4783 095.6446 0702473 126.4542 240.3952 14.23797052 31145
NOAA-10
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2 16969 098.5772 292.0188 0011719 319.2145 040.8157 14.27577169353493
NOAA-11
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NOAA-12
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2 21263 098.7245 285.8447 0013025 286.0182 073.9558 14.25518415110158
MET-3/5
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2 21655 082.5524 084.8580 0014453 086.0039 274.2736 13.17043225 14434
MET-2/21
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2 22782 082.5486 316.6943 0021016 243.4588 116.4423 13.83688631962388
OKEAN-4
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2 23317 082.5401 302.5809 0023016 043.0031 317.2979 14.83948400968864
NOAA-14
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2 23455 098.8240 346.9320 0010322 046.7470 313.4566 14.13870487914280
NOAA-15
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2 25338 098.7005 250.2503 0010456 187.3498 172.7516 14.25119434746386
RESURS
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2 25394 098.3292 247.2500 0001506 006.6629 353.4569 14.24296357737891
FENGYUN1
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2 25730 098.8525 221.2707 0020350 087.7185 272.6296 14.09745082687952
OKEAN-0
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2 25860 097.9474 224.7093 0000888 042.5837 317.5438 14.74300927708534
NOAA-16
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2 26536 099.0843 307.7708 0010659 172.3830 187.7496 14.12781288618452
NOAA-17
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2 27453 098.3302 286.4825 0010853 235.2997 124.7158 14.24482219532293
NOAA-18
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2 28654 099.0574 223.2551 0013443 246.7041 113.2736 14.11699173377989
NOAA-19
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HUBBLE
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ISS
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CO-58
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FALCON
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2 30776 035.4321 052.5540 0001251 094.2947 265.7915 15.08211491304697
MAST
1 31126U 07012K 12264.58877668 .00000196 00000-0 53828-4 0 5625
2 31126 097.8758 270.1207 0093599 172.6549 187.6046 14.54253593288132
CAPE1
1 31130U 07012P 12264.49701181 .00000275 00000-0 72560-4 0 5729
2 31130 097.8856 266.3713 0101125 186.8348 173.1481 14.53065437287616
COMPASS
1 32787U 08021E 12263.65806792 .00001166 00000-0 14490-3 0 04153
2 32787 097.7921 322.8746 0016148 109.2989 250.9980 14.84335641237828
AAUSAT2
1 32788U 08021F 12263.67376070 .00001686 00000-0 20502-3 0 04076
2 32788 097.7948 323.3276 0015819 109.4936 250.7983 14.84687954237851
DO-64
1 32789U 08021G 12264.76367937 .00002720 00000-0 31358-3 0 4228
2 32789 097.8042 326.7945 0015607 103.2497 257.0453 14.86419870238076
CO-66
1 32791U 08021J 12263.82155529 .00001069 00000-0 13540-3 0 04058
2 32791 097.7887 322.6950 0017077 110.5884 249.7091 14.83694205237776
RS-30
1 32953U 08025A 12264.90973255 .00000010 00000-0 00000 0 0 1589
2 32953 082.5001 235.6047 0020276 097.0623 263.2760 12.43027804196453
PHARMSAT
1 35002U 09028B 12226.86484473 .07728342 73476-5 57159-3 0 789
2 35002 040.4341 050.6671 0012079 300.9773 059.0492 16.39309245183554
METEOR-M
1 35865U 09049A 12264.78187189 -.00000019 00000-0 11141-4 0 7950
2 35865 098.6444 317.2645 0002957 121.0654 239.0812 14.21869220156185
RS-38
1 35869U 09049E 12264.71829117 .00000030 00000-0 33282-4 0 7829
2 35869 098.6396 317.1813 0005069 126.5897 233.5747 14.22087424156193
JUGNU
1 37839U 11058B 12263.08463629 .00000620 00000-0 19019-3 0 02306
2 37839 019.9591 149.3875 0019439 176.4778 183.5649 14.12082165048535
SRMSAT
1 37841U 11058D 12263.90389899 .00000264 00000-0 00000-0 0 02341
2 37841 019.9697 151.1619 0012085 151.9329 208.1728 14.10162034048581
RAX-2
1 37853U 11061D 12263.81064625 .00004066 00000-0 32468-3 0 02974
2 37853 101.7082 347.0971 0244275 081.0342 281.8420 14.80791168048406
AUBIESAT
1 37854U 11061E 12263.80656351 .00004177 00000-0 32753-3 0 02933
2 37854 101.7129 347.4709 0245291 080.2923 282.5886 14.81244898048393
HRBE
1 37855U 11061F 12264.84388356 .00004292 00000-0 33751-3 0 2876
2 37855 101.7109 348.9029 0245580 077.4359 285.4194 14.81070037 48548
RS-39
1 38051U 11062C 12264.75216435 .00007605 00000-0 30590-3 0 7193
2 38051 051.6350 063.9490 0012697 021.9004 172.4553 15.25802038 36551
E-STAR
1 38079U 12006C 12264.69805543 .00047145 00000-0 11573-2 0 5188
2 38079 069.4784 096.4579 0714419 126.8899 239.9906 14.21079701 31123
GOLIAT
1 38085U 12006J 12264.68893897 .00044637 00000-0 10965-2 0 4864
2 38085 069.4848 097.0943 0719741 127.4545 239.4886 14.19940247 31100
HORYU-2
1 38340U 12025D 12264.32131936 .00000883 00000-0 15494-3 0 1550
2 38340 098.1820 204.3011 0013572 033.3053 326.9021 14.70175830 18451
RS-40
1 38736U 12041D 12264.71441186 .00000010 00000-0 00000 0 0 577
2 38736 082.4812 323.1480 0018548 192.1221 167.9424 12.42646496 6776
PROITERES
1 38756U 12047B 12264.76510160 .00000302 00000-0 54180-4 0 475
2 38756 098.2853 330.4851 0011542 242.2842 117.7196 14.73874215 1709
AENEAS
1 38760U 0 12263.51384741 .00001219 00000-0 12621-3 0 00125
2 38760 064.6718 023.4550 0219105 287.6245 175.2963 14.79106966000810
CSSWE
1 38761U 0 12261.82383910 .00001382 00000-0 14187-3 0 00103
2 38761 064.6714 028.6390 0218654 288.2530 172.9518 14.78858418000565
CP5
1 38763U 00000 12258.03722222 0.00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 0008
2 38763 66.2600 30.4300 0202000 308.7900 155.8234 14.79897280000003
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:28:44 +0200
From: TuZZio <fabio_selva@xxxxxxxx.xx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: dismantling satellite antennas
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Il 22/09/2012 23.00, John Spasojevich ha scritto:
> Then I guess we won't have to read any more complaining e-mail anymore
>
> John, AG9D
Sorry to say but after the first reading, you can suppose the e-mail
content from the subject, so you always have the "Canc" key; let people
expose their free opinions until their are in topic.
Good DX - 73 - I0NLK
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:20:50 +0700
From: "Vu Trong Thu" <thuvt@xxx.xxx.xx>
To: "'Jim Jerzycke'" <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fox Delta SP-2
Message-ID: <002201cd995b$f7d69000$e783b000$@xxx.xxx.xx>
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Me too, it works as advertised.
73, Thu XV9AA
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Jerzycke [mailto:kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:50 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fox Delta SP-2
I'm also using an ST-2. NO problems at all with it.
73, Jim KQ6EA
On 09/22/2012 10:50 PM, John / NS1Z wrote:
> I have two ST-3 units, one was in kit form and the other was
> preassembled.
> The assembled one has lost its PIC a couple of times, maybe due to rf
> (~50w)???
> No other complaints.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: K&R Yoksh
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:30 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox Delta SP-2
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm considering buying a Fox Delta SP-2 to control my rotators. Any
> suggestions / reviews?
>
> http://foxdelta.com/products/st2.htm
>
> Thanks,
>
> 73
>
> Kyle
> K0KN
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:46:09 -0500
From: John Spasojevich <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
To: TuZZio <fabio_selva@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: dismantling satellite antennas
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Ok..then I can do this.
No HEO so I wont pay my dues. I think AMSAT Italia should start right now
building a real satellite. I have been waiting and complaining for years.
Why wont they build it. Come on who cares about money just do ir so I can
stop writing daily about how schools are stealing our frequencies. When did
hams own frequencies? Nevermind. Beep sats and bleep sats and leo sats and
easy sats are all suck sats so I will not support any AMSAT
So how about I post that again and again day after day, week after week,
month after month. You can after all simply delete it when you see the
subject line.
John, AG9D
On Sep 23, 2012 1:36 AM, "TuZZio" <fabio_selva@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> Il 22/09/2012 23.00, John Spasojevich ha scritto:
> > Then I guess we won't have to read any more complaining e-mail anymore
> >
> > John, AG9D
>
>
> Sorry to say but after the first reading, you can suppose the e-mail
> content from the subject, so you always have the "Canc" key; let people
> expose their free opinions until their are in topic.
>
> Good DX - 73 - I0NLK
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:30:37 -0700
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
To: "'John Spasojevich'" <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>, "'TuZZio'"
<fabio_selva@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: dismantling satellite antennas
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TO All,
This is just another thread documenting Pioneers, (the ones with the arrows
in their backs). Isn't this the same as 200 Meters and down that happened
almost 100 years ago?
The experts at the time decided any communications on frequencies above
1,500 KHz would only carry a hundred miles or so and were useless for most
communications. Everything above 1,500 KHz was given to the Radio Amateurs
to experiment with. Once the experts were proven wrong, the government took
most of the spectrum from the Radio Amateurs, assigning it to commercial and
government interests.
Amateur Radio Operators pioneered communications by satellite with the OSCAR
satellite series. Communications by Satellite has been led by Government and
Commercial interests since the 80's of the last century. At least this time
they haven't reassigned spectrum, but government support is no longer
provided for experimentation or emergency communication via satellites.
New innovations now come from groups, not individuals because of the
combination of skills needed in engineering to develop a new innovation. It
is difficult to assemble a group of Amateur Radio Operators with the needed
skill sets to compete with commercial development and the development of
IC's to support new technology is economically beyond our reach. The days of
Edison and Bell with new inventions are gone.
If we all hit the lottery, would we rush out and buy a launch for a HEO?
Amateur Radio Operators represent 1/2 of 1 % of the US population, even the
politicians have no interest in us.
Art,
KC6UQH
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of John Spasojevich
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:46 AM
To: TuZZio
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: dismantling satellite antennas
Ok..then I can do this.
No HEO so I wont pay my dues. I think AMSAT Italia should start right now
building a real satellite. I have been waiting and complaining for years.
Why wont they build it. Come on who cares about money just do ir so I can
stop writing daily about how schools are stealing our frequencies. When did
hams own frequencies? Nevermind. Beep sats and bleep sats and leo sats and
easy sats are all suck sats so I will not support any AMSAT
So how about I post that again and again day after day, week after week,
month after month. You can after all simply delete it when you see the
subject line.
John, AG9D
On Sep 23, 2012 1:36 AM, "TuZZio" <fabio_selva@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> Il 22/09/2012 23.00, John Spasojevich ha scritto:
> > Then I guess we won't have to read any more complaining e-mail anymore
> >
> > John, AG9D
>
>
> Sorry to say but after the first reading, you can suppose the e-mail
> content from the subject, so you always have the "Canc" key; let people
> expose their free opinions until their are in topic.
>
> Good DX - 73 - I0NLK
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