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Today's Topics:

   1. Funcube Dongle Pro V1.1 for sale (Stefan Wagener)
   2. Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio (George Henry)
   3. Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio (Thomas Doyle)
   4. Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio (Clayton Coleman W5PFG)
   5. Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio (Thomas Doyle)
   6. Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio (Ted)
   7. Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio (Stefan Wagener)
   8. satellite activity and future sats... (Bob DeVarney W1ICW)
   9. Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio (Jim Jerzycke)
  10. Re: satellite activity and future sats... (Bob- W7LRD)
  11. Re: Proposal for 460-470 MHz CubeSat Band (Kai Gunter Brandt)
  12. Re: satellite activity and future sats... (Tony Langdon)
  13. Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio (Trevor .)
  14. Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio (Alan P. Biddle)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:14:20 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Funcube Dongle Pro V1.1 for sale
Message-ID:
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If interested, drop me a note with a reasonable offer. Unit is serial# 820
and works great. Just don't use it.

Stefan, VE4NSA


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:51:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
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Take a look at SatControl_FCD.? I?haven't tried it?with SDR-Radio, but with
WR-Plus and the Ext_IO DLL, it makes the FunCube Dongle into a very nice
satellite receiver.



George, KA3HSW



----- Original Message ----
> From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Mon, August 27, 2012 1:46:15 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
>
> The FUNcube and SDR-Radio work great together. Transmit control for
> satellite use in SDR-Radio is very limited (non-existent from what I
> have been able to find).
> I would like the FUNcube / SDR-Radio combination to act like a simple
> receiver under cat control from SatPC32 or similar program.? I would
> like to talk with anyone who has actual experience with this.
>
>
> tnx & 73 W9KE




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:18:15 -0500
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
Message-ID:
<CAHnRQRKertZnq1n0gL1UR0uy4OhCsSaS9YxAXZa+j0X=jcpRHA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi George,

Yes, the FUNcube dongle makes a great sat receiver with many of the
programs that are out there. There is little problem getting the FCD
to work as a great sat receiver.  The emphasis in most SDR programs
that I have tried is <Receiving> (that is not a big surprise). Support
for transmit offset for linear sats and transmit doppler correction
are the missing pieces in everything I have looked at.

Rather that re-invent the wheel it seems to make sense to build off
the strength of existing programs like SatPC32 and have the SDR and
your transmitter sit out there under CAT control of SatPC32 or a
similar program.

I have had the best luck with spur and image reduction with SDR-Radio
(there is an automatic mode which is great for an old geezer like me).
It does have a ton of useless 'feature bloat' items like a calendar
and picture viewer but it does support network based SDR's and is
suppose to tie in with HRD.

If people are already using SatPC32 or something similar it would be a
relatively painless upgrade path to the FUNcube dongle if they could
build on what they know and use rather than starting over. The FCD or
similar device might be a low cost upgrade path to full duplex
operation.

The future of the hobby is FM sats so this is all probably irrelevant
but it is still fun and interesting.

tnx & 73 W9KE Tom





On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:51 PM, George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Take a look at SatControl_FCD.  I haven't tried it with SDR-Radio, but with
> WR-Plus and the Ext_IO DLL, it makes the FunCube Dongle into a very nice
> satellite receiver.
>
>
>
> George, KA3HSW
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
>> To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
>> Sent: Mon, August 27, 2012 1:46:15 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
>>
>> The FUNcube and SDR-Radio work great together. Transmit control for
>> satellite use in SDR-Radio is very limited (non-existent from what I
>> have been able to find).
>> I would like the FUNcube / SDR-Radio combination to act like a simple
>> receiver under cat control from SatPC32 or similar program.  I would
>> like to talk with anyone who has actual experience with this.
>>
>>
>> tnx & 73 W9KE
>



--

Sent from my computer.

tom ...


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:43:39 -0500
From: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
Message-ID:
<CAPovOwcf+LvX4bgy7h3ei1EkGEM4GuAMmwsh54y++nj27-0jJQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hello Tom,

I would like to understand the reason for your comment about the
future being limited to FM satellites.  It seems FUNcube, FOX-2 and
Phase 3E projects would prove otherwise.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The future of the hobby is FM sats so this is all probably irrelevant
> but it is still fun and interesting.
>
> tnx & 73 W9KE Tom


------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:09:10 -0500
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
Message-ID:
<CAHnRQR+A+=ZvFuG9-DXPy8dbP9X=1FU_yDL7YrZMNGr5dR32mQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Clayton,

The activity level on the linear sats is very low and does not seem to
be getting any better. Not sure why. Perhaps it is cost or complexity
or problems putting up outside antennas. It is rather sad working
linear sat passes with no one else on them. At least I can hear my own
downlink signal and the beacon :-)

Unfortunately this sums it up.

AMSAT Board of Directors Meeting Minutes

"Satellite Operations Report by Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA

" ... The other FM satellites, AO-27 and SO-50, continue to be heavily
used. FO-29 when operative, and VO-52 work well, but have very little
use."

Hope to see you on FO-29.

73 W9KE Tom Doyle




On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Clayton Coleman W5PFG
<kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hello Tom,
>
> I would like to understand the reason for your comment about the
> future being limited to FM satellites.  It seems FUNcube, FOX-2 and
> Phase 3E projects would prove otherwise.
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>> The future of the hobby is FM sats so this is all probably irrelevant
>> but it is still fun and interesting.
>>
>> tnx & 73 W9KE Tom



--

Sent from my computer.

tom ...


------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:29:14 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Thomas Doyle'" <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>,	"'Clayton Coleman
W5PFG'" <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
Message-ID: <B7ED77ED8CDF4D838652D776F2964891@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Tom, one thing that would help is dragging SatPC32 into the 21st Century. I
find it almost unusable. Too bad the sat program in HRD has problems
tracking the linears...

73, Ted, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Thomas Doyle
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:09 PM
To: Clayton Coleman W5PFG
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio

Clayton,

The activity level on the linear sats is very low and does not seem to
be getting any better. Not sure why. Perhaps it is cost or complexity
or problems putting up outside antennas. It is rather sad working
linear sat passes with no one else on them. At least I can hear my own
downlink signal and the beacon :-)

Unfortunately this sums it up.

AMSAT Board of Directors Meeting Minutes

"Satellite Operations Report by Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA

" ... The other FM satellites, AO-27 and SO-50, continue to be heavily
used. FO-29 when operative, and VO-52 work well, but have very little
use."

Hope to see you on FO-29.

73 W9KE Tom Doyle




On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Clayton Coleman W5PFG
<kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hello Tom,
>
> I would like to understand the reason for your comment about the
> future being limited to FM satellites.  It seems FUNcube, FOX-2 and
> Phase 3E projects would prove otherwise.
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>> The future of the hobby is FM sats so this is all probably irrelevant
>> but it is still fun and interesting.
>>
>> tnx & 73 W9KE Tom



--

Sent from my computer.

tom ...
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:59:13 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHADcxDi9-q4qAHWpON80d1tR0pHj4sJVhfNHuO2814TdQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Ted,

Appreciate your concern. However, SatPC32 is written and maintained by
Erich without ANY compensation by us. He donated the program and any
updates to AMSAT for them to sell. It's a one man personal hobby and
dedication and has served many of us very well. Sure would be nice to have
a super GUI etc. On the other hand once you get to learn the ins and outs
it serves the community very well.

Stefan, VE4NSA

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Tom, one thing that would help is dragging SatPC32 into the 21st Century. I
> find it almost unusable. Too bad the sat program in HRD has problems
> tracking the linears...
>
> 73, Ted, K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Thomas Doyle
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:09 PM
> To: Clayton Coleman W5PFG
> Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
>
> Clayton,
>
> The activity level on the linear sats is very low and does not seem to
> be getting any better. Not sure why. Perhaps it is cost or complexity
> or problems putting up outside antennas. It is rather sad working
> linear sat passes with no one else on them. At least I can hear my own
> downlink signal and the beacon :-)
>
> Unfortunately this sums it up.
>
> AMSAT Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
>
> "Satellite Operations Report by Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
>
> " ... The other FM satellites, AO-27 and SO-50, continue to be heavily
> used. FO-29 when operative, and VO-52 work well, but have very little
> use."
>
> Hope to see you on FO-29.
>
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Clayton Coleman W5PFG
> <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > Hello Tom,
> >
> > I would like to understand the reason for your comment about the
> > future being limited to FM satellites.  It seems FUNcube, FOX-2 and
> > Phase 3E projects would prove otherwise.
> >
> > 73
> > Clayton
> > W5PFG
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> >> The future of the hobby is FM sats so this is all probably irrelevant
> >> but it is still fun and interesting.
> >>
> >> tnx & 73 W9KE Tom
>
>
>
> --
>
> Sent from my computer.
>
> tom ...
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:00:45 -0400
From: Bob DeVarney W1ICW <we1u@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite activity and future sats...
Message-ID: <503C0A2D.4090404@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I am afraid you're right, Tom, and it pains me to admit it. I am not
sure why activity has dropped off.. but I can say in my own case I lost
interest in satellite operating after AO-40 died and have gone on to
other things ( EME ) to use the existing equipment I had.

 From northern Vermont I can work pretty much all the active satellite
ops on the FM birds ( within my potential mutual footprint at least ) in
a weekend's worth of passes, so there was little incentive for me to
continue. I _have_ gotten back into sat operating recently, if only to
work the cobwebs out of my station.

I wonder how many satellite operators still have AO-10 or AO-13-class
stations any more. I get the impression that many aspire to have a Yaesu
FT-847, Icom 910, or TS-2000 and an Arrow antenna. If that much. I hope
I am wrong.

We as a community need to revitalize things.. the future does NOT lie
with more Cubesats.. or if it does, then I want no part of it. We need
to restore the legacy and primacy of AMSAT in space. I think if we could
get another LEO bird in the air we would see activity increase dramatically.

I've been an AMSAT member since 1980, albeit on and off, and been on the
birds since 1987 give or take. Some of my most fun moments were working
the Russian RS birds, believe it or not.  I was also an AMSAT Area
Coordinator for some years. I would love to participate in a dialogue of
how to get folks interested in satellite operating again, and/or
representing AMSAT at the local hamfests.  But it might just echo the
general lack of interest in ham radio in general that I have observed.

Guess I need to make a point of getting back on FO-29 and VO-52 more
often...

73 de W1ICW


On 8/27/2012 7:09 PM, Thomas Doyle wrote:
> Clayton,
>
> The activity level on the linear sats is very low and does not seem to
> be getting any better. Not sure why. Perhaps it is cost or complexity
> or problems putting up outside antennas. It is rather sad working
> linear sat passes with no one else on them. At least I can hear my own
> downlink signal and the beacon :-)
>
> Unfortunately this sums it up.
>
> AMSAT Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
>
> "Satellite Operations Report by Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
>
> " ... The other FM satellites, AO-27 and SO-50, continue to be heavily
> used. FO-29 when operative, and VO-52 work well, but have very little
> use."
>
> Hope to see you on FO-29.
>
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle



------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:40:33 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
Message-ID: <503C1381.8040005@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Please explain how you would "Drag SatPC32 into the 21st Century"?

What don't you like about it? What makes it (for you) "almost unusable"?

I've been using it since 1999 or so, and have never found it to be
particularly hard to use. Setup can be less than trivial, but yet I've
found it to be FAR easier to set up and use than NOVA.

Just curious......

73, Jim  KQ6EA


On 08/27/2012 11:29 PM, Ted wrote:
> Tom, one thing that would help is dragging SatPC32 into the 21st Century. I
> find it almost unusable. Too bad the sat program in HRD has problems
> tracking the linears...
>
> 73, Ted, K7TRK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Thomas Doyle
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:09 PM
> To: Clayton Coleman W5PFG
> Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
>
> Clayton,
>
> The activity level on the linear sats is very low and does not seem to
> be getting any better. Not sure why. Perhaps it is cost or complexity
> or problems putting up outside antennas. It is rather sad working
> linear sat passes with no one else on them. At least I can hear my own
> downlink signal and the beacon :-)
>
> Unfortunately this sums it up.
>
> AMSAT Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
>
> "Satellite Operations Report by Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
>
> " ... The other FM satellites, AO-27 and SO-50, continue to be heavily
> used. FO-29 when operative, and VO-52 work well, but have very little
> use."
>
> Hope to see you on FO-29.
>
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Clayton Coleman W5PFG
> <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Hello Tom,
>>
>> I would like to understand the reason for your comment about the
>> future being limited to FM satellites.  It seems FUNcube, FOX-2 and
>> Phase 3E projects would prove otherwise.
>>
>> 73
>> Clayton
>> W5PFG
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>>> The future of the hobby is FM sats so this is all probably irrelevant
>>> but it is still fun and interesting.
>>>
>>> tnx & 73 W9KE Tom
>
>



------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 02:24:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Bob DeVarney W1ICW <w1icw@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite activity and future sats...
Message-ID:
<665912557.1047690.1346120662721.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
xxx.xxx>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


I believe that, "if you build it they will come". From the movie. Right now
we're playing "small ball". If there were a HEO on the horizon there would
be an incredible scramble for whatever it takes. I recall the initial days
of AO-40 (sobsob). We became S band experts almost overnight! I still have
my "flame thrower" antennas in mothballs. One interesting "tweek" would be
to throw out a "Suitsat" type satellite every time they have a crew change.
LIke a L/S LEO for few months to break up the garden variety. Maybe a MEO
like RS-15. Back to my corner now. I am still rebuilding ALL my damn
antennas, like rebuilding a NASA facility with the xyl in charge. I'll be on
soon.
73 Bob W7LRD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob DeVarney W1ICW" <we1u@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:00:45 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite activity and future sats...

I am afraid you're right, Tom, and it pains me to admit it. I am not
sure why activity has dropped off.. but I can say in my own case I lost
interest in satellite operating after AO-40 died and have gone on to
other things ( EME ) to use the existing equipment I had.

>From northern Vermont I can work pretty much all the active satellite
ops on the FM birds ( within my potential mutual footprint at least ) in
a weekend's worth of passes, so there was little incentive for me to
continue. I _have_ gotten back into sat operating recently, if only to
work the cobwebs out of my station.

I wonder how many satellite operators still have AO-10 or AO-13-class
stations any more. I get the impression that many aspire to have a Yaesu
FT-847, Icom 910, or TS-2000 and an Arrow antenna. If that much. I hope
I am wrong.

We as a community need to revitalize things.. the future does NOT lie
with more Cubesats.. or if it does, then I want no part of it. We need
to restore the legacy and primacy of AMSAT in space. I think if we could
get another LEO bird in the air we would see activity increase dramatically.

I've been an AMSAT member since 1980, albeit on and off, and been on the
birds since 1987 give or take. Some of my most fun moments were working
the Russian RS birds, believe it or not. I was also an AMSAT Area
Coordinator for some years. I would love to participate in a dialogue of
how to get folks interested in satellite operating again, and/or
representing AMSAT at the local hamfests. But it might just echo the
general lack of interest in ham radio in general that I have observed.

Guess I need to make a point of getting back on FO-29 and VO-52 more
often...

73 de W1ICW


On 8/27/2012 7:09 PM, Thomas Doyle wrote:
> Clayton,
>
> The activity level on the linear sats is very low and does not seem to
> be getting any better. Not sure why. Perhaps it is cost or complexity
> or problems putting up outside antennas. It is rather sad working
> linear sat passes with no one else on them. At least I can hear my own
> downlink signal and the beacon :-)
>
> Unfortunately this sums it up.
>
> AMSAT Board of Directors Meeting Minutes
>
> "Satellite Operations Report by Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA
>
> " ... The other FM satellites, AO-27 and SO-50, continue to be heavily
> used. FO-29 when operative, and VO-52 work well, but have very little
> use."
>
> Hope to see you on FO-29.
>
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle

_______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:25:40 +0200
From: Kai Gunter Brandt <kai.brandt@xxx.xxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Proposal for 460-470 MHz CubeSat Band
Message-ID: <503C7274.9040705@xxx.xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"

On 08/27/2012 06:45 PM, John Becker wrote:
> Would it therefor have to be shutdown over the USA?
> Why I read the rules I would have to say YES.
>
> John, W0JAB
>
>

In Norway this is used for broadband, PMR, Maritime and DVB-T

Kai Gunter
LA3QMA


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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:51:42 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Bob DeVarney W1ICW <w1icw@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite activity and future sats...
Message-ID: <503c86a7.86e8440a.7a19.3b36@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 10:00 AM 8/28/2012, Bob DeVarney W1ICW wrote:
>I am afraid you're right, Tom, and it pains me to admit it. I am not
>sure why activity has dropped off.. but I can say in my own case I
>lost interest in satellite operating after AO-40 died and have gone
>on to other things ( EME ) to use the existing equipment I had.

In my case, around the time AO-40 died, IRLP came to VK, and I became
heavily involved in that field for over 10 years.  Nowadays, various
constraints limit me to mobile, portable and data modes.  I would
like some antennas for the sats, but they'd have to be omnis.  I've
got gear that will work the SSB birds, but lack suitable antennas
(can only just hear myself come back on VO-52), and suitable times to
use it on phone.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:39:46 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
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--- On Tue, 28/8/12, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The activity level on the linear sats is very low and does
> not seem to be getting any better. Not sure why.

Possibly a couple of factors

- In 2003 the Morse requirement for HF operating was dropped in the UK and
elsewhere (USA 2007). Until then the majority of radio amateurs in many
countries had to operate on VHF or UHF only. With the removal of the code
test they moved to HF as have all new amateurs since that time, with
occasional usage of VHF/UHF FM for local chats.

- Limited range of some Linear Transponder Satellites. Orbits below 1000 km
don't allow for DX working and have limited pass times and higher Doppler
shift. When OSCAR-8 was launched into a 900 km orbit it was no-where near as
popular as OSCAR-7/6.

The orbit is the key. Fold-out solar panels, such as that used on NEE-01
Pegasus, mean a CubeSat can support a linear transponder running 2 or 3
watts but currently affordable orbits are only in the 500-800 km range. We
need to develop the means to boost the orbit of a CubeSat up to say the 2000
km used by RS-15.

73 Trevor M5AKA




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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:32:42 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Ted'" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio
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Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Ted,

I am interested in why you consider SATPC32 almost unusable?   It does
require a small amount of typing instead of clicking, but it just works, and
works perfectly. That is my criteria for usability.  HRD is beautiful, and I
use it exclusively for HF, but gave up on it as a satellite program because
so many features, such as support for the FT-847, were broken and did not
get fixed.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Ted
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 6:29 PM
To: 'Thomas Doyle'; 'Clayton Coleman W5PFG'
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio

Tom, one thing that would help is dragging SatPC32 into the 21st Century. I
find it almost unusable. Too bad the sat program in HRD has problems
tracking the linears...

73, Ted, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Thomas Doyle
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:09 PM
To: Clayton Coleman W5PFG
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube + SatPC32 + SDR-Radio

Clayton,

The activity level on the linear sats is very low and does not seem to
be getting any better. Not sure why. Perhaps it is cost or complexity
or problems putting up outside antennas. It is rather sad working
linear sat passes with no one else on them. At least I can hear my own
downlink signal and the beacon :-)

Unfortunately this sums it up.

AMSAT Board of Directors Meeting Minutes

"Satellite Operations Report by Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA

" ... The other FM satellites, AO-27 and SO-50, continue to be heavily
used. FO-29 when operative, and VO-52 work well, but have very little
use."

Hope to see you on FO-29.

73 W9KE Tom Doyle




On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Clayton Coleman W5PFG
<kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hello Tom,
>
> I would like to understand the reason for your comment about the
> future being limited to FM satellites.  It seems FUNcube, FOX-2 and
> Phase 3E projects would prove otherwise.
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>> The future of the hobby is FM sats so this is all probably irrelevant
>> but it is still fun and interesting.
>>
>> tnx & 73 W9KE Tom



--

Sent from my computer.

tom ...
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