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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question (Art McBride)
   2. AMSAT Board of Directors Election Reminder (Alan P. Biddle)
   3. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 7, Issue 247 (Thomas Frey)
   4. Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question (i8cvs)
   5. Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question (Art McBride)
   6. Re: AMSAT Board of Directors Election Reminder (Stefan Wagener)
   7. Re: AMSAT Board of Directors Election Reminder (Alan P. Biddle)
   8. /portable! (Vince, K9TSU)
   9. Mars Science Laboratory Landing Coverage (B J)
  10. Mars Science Laboratory Landing Confirmed (B J)
  11. Re: Mars Science Laboratory Landing Confirmed (Tony Langdon)
  12. Re: Mars Science Laboratory Landing Confirmed (B J)
  13. Curiosity - VK1ALR Canberra Deep Space Communication	Complex
      Interview (Trevor .)
  14. Re: Curiosity - VK1ALR Canberra Deep Space Communication
      Complex Interview (Trevor .)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:44:08 -0700
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
To: "'Bob Bruninga '" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>,	"'Thomas Doyle'"
<tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx 'andrew abken' <kn6za@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question
Message-ID: <BBA1DD6A096040059336237F6014B50E@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Bob,
Just a reminder, a QFH antenna is circularly polarized over the whole
envelope of the antenna. A sharp null exists on the back side. A one
wavelength, one turn has gain at low angle side radiation and a 4 dB loss
overhead, where the distance to the ground station is the smallest.
Certainly this is a good fit for satellites.

Turnstile antennas and patch antennas are linear polarized at the sides and
of course are the easiest to implement on a satellite.

My point is all circular antennas are not equal and having an antenna with
gain on the sides opposed to the center of the antenna is very desirable.

Art,
KC6UQH

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Bob Bruninga
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 3:25 PM
To: Thomas Doyle
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx andrew abken
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

> Not sure why anyone would want to maintain the
> orientation of the satellite in such a way that
> would cause the direction of circular
> polarization to change during the path.

Lets try this approach... As I said before,  By the laws of physics, what
comes out one side of a circular polarized low gain antenna as RHCP comes
out the opposite side as LHCP.

Now given that, and the fact that someone in Maryland is in the center of
the RHCP beam, then by the laws of physics, the guy in California must see
mostly LHCP.  No matter how much one of those persons demands that he
deserves the RHCP beam, by definition, someone else somewhere will get the
LHCP one, and the geometry changes at least every 10 minutes or so and every
time the spacecraft rotates a bit.

So one might say, "point it down" then only the person in Kansas will see
the main beam and those in CA or MD will be completely off the sides almost
70 degrees from the main beam.  Mot people do not realize how LOW these
satellites are.  The only solution is to put satellites so high, that "down"
is about the same to everyone (geostationary altitude).  But then that takes
100 times more altitude, and that takes 10,000 times more power.

Better to just live with the laws of physics... I guess.

Bob, WB4aPR

>
>On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> I believe that is true but that does not explain
>>> why the optimum polarity setting on the receive
>>> end would change during a pass.
>>
>> That's easy.  The circularity on a pair of crossed dipoles (about all
you can get on a spacecraft) May be designed for Right hand circularity when
viewed from the prime direction.  But by definition, that save waveform will
be LHC when viewed from the opposite direction.
>>
>> And since the geometry to any one observer is constantly changing by
almost 180 degrees during an overhead pass, that is why it is very easy to
see, complete change in circularity.
>>
>> Bob, WB4APR
>>
>
>
>
>--
>
>Sent from my computer.
>
>tom ...
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 15:46:53 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "SAREX-BB" <SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: ANS Submission <ans-editor@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Board of Directors Election Reminder
Message-ID: <99857AF3B24242E9909E413905AE1F4D@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

By now, all members in good standing of AMSAT-NA should have received their
ballots, including the position biographies by the candidates.  Additional
information for those interested can be found in the minutes of the 2011
Board Meeting which appear in the current issue of the AMSAT Journal.  We
have a full slate of candidates this year. Remember, this is one of your
best opportunities to make your views on the path of our organization known.
More details, courtesy of the AMSAT News Service, can be found below.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA
AMSAT Corporate Secretary

--------------------------------------------


AMSAT Board of Directors 2012 Ballots in the Mail

Ballots for the 2012 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors election have been
mailed to all members. Also included is biographical information
about each of the candidates.

Select no more than three of the six listed candidates (in alphabetical
order):

+ Tom Clark, K3IO
+ Steve Coy, K8UD
+ Mark Hammond, N8MH
+ Lou McFadin, W5DID
+ Gould Smith, WA4SXM
+ Patrick E. Stoddard, WD9EWK

The 3 candidates receiving the most votes will become directors
serving 2 year terms. The 2 receiving the next highest number of
votes will be seated as alternates for 1 year terms.

You must mail your ballot back to be received at the AMSAT-NA Office
no later than the close of business on September 15, 2012:

   AMSAT
   850 Sligo Avenue, #600
   Silver Spring, MD  20910




------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 00:18:55 +0200
From: Thomas Frey <th.frey@xxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 7, Issue 247
Message-ID: <501EF14F.9020700@xxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

amsat-bb-request@xxxxx.xxx schrieb:
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:23:21 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jean-Pierre Godet<godetj@xxxxxxx.xx>
> To:ans-editor@xxxxx.xxx
> Cc:amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny-2 RS-40
> Message-ID:<Pine.LNX.4.60.1208050840120.432@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>     Dear friends,
>
>     Thanks to Jean-Louis Rault F6AGR who quickly informed me, I heard my
> first signal from Yubileiny-2 RS-40 on monday July 30th afternoon. The
> signal of the 435.365 MHz beacon was fairly strong regarding my poor
> receiving devices and aerials.
>     After that, the beacon was heard on 435.265, but more often on 435.365
> MHz, sometime none of these two frequencies. I am using the 2012-041D
> NORAD elements. I am not sure it is the good one, but for the moment A, B,
> and C, the three others payloads launched with the same Rockot vehicle are
> not too far away.
>
>     Trying to get information about the Yubileiny-2 satellite, I sent
> inquiries about the telemetry and the possibility that may be one of the
> beacons will move to CW as it was done with the previous Yubileiny-1 RS-30
> and Mozhayets-4 RS-22, but I received no reply till now : three mails in
> russian, to the Siberian State Aerospace University (RS-40 instruments and
> research mission, Rrasnoyarsk), to ISS Reshetnev (company manufacturing
> the RS-40 satellite, Krasnoyarsk), and to A. P. Papkov (Laboratory of
> Astronotical technology, Kaluga, who published the telemetry decoding of
> RS-22 and RS-30).
>     We are waiting with hope but, may be I am wrong, looks like the
> university and the ISS company are not very interested by a collaboration
> with the radioamateur community, only by their frequencies around 435 MHz.
>
>     73 !
>
>     Jean-Pierre/F5YG
>

Hello Jean-Pierre

You are right, they have absolute no interest for us radio amateurs.
And this could be a problem, if this Russian satellites flies over
Europe and transmits their DOKA-B signals in FM (!) in the 435 MHz
frequency range.

Look for first hand infos in this PDF-document:
http://home.datacomm.ch/th.frey/Yubileiny-2.pdf

MiR(Yubileiny-2) is active in DOKA-B only in range of a control station
in Russia, e.g. Moscow.

--

Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen, Regards, 73
     Thomas Frey, HB9SKA
______________________________________________________________________

   Thomas Frey, Holzgasse 2, CH-5242 Birr, Tel. + Fax: 056 444 93 41
                    http://home.datacomm.ch/th.frey/



------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 00:27:23 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Bob Bruninga "
<bruninga@xxxx.xxx>,	<kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>, "Thomas Doyle"
<tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question
Message-ID: <003001cd7359$7c8b4d00$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Art, KC6UQH

It is correct that a QFH is circularly polarized over the whole envelope
of the antenna.If it is left wound the polarization is RHCP and if it is
right wound the resulting polarization is LHCP.

By the way the point is the satellite antenna.

If the satellite antenna is made using two crossed dipoles mounted in the
same mechanical plane and are supplied with 90? out of phase than the
radiated polarization is RHCP along one axial direction and LHCP along
the other axial direction.

Since the satellite is thumbling orbiting in the space than the polarization
coming from the satellite to earth or coming from the ground station to
the satellite is continuing changing from RHCP to LHCP to linear passing
through elliptical.

The bad point is that a QFH can only radiate RHCP or LHCP depending
on it's winding direction so that using only one QFH the QSB generated
by the satellite thumbling cannot be completely eliminated and two
switchable QFH's one RHCP and the other one LHCP would be necessary.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
To: "'Bob Bruninga '" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>; "'Thomas Doyle'"
<tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "'andrew abken'" <kn6za@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question


> Bob,
> Just a reminder, a QFH antenna is circularly polarized over the whole
> envelope of the antenna. A sharp null exists on the back side. A one
> wavelength, one turn has gain at low angle side radiation and a 4 dB loss
> overhead, where the distance to the ground station is the smallest.
> Certainly this is a good fit for satellites.
>
> Turnstile antennas and patch antennas are linear polarized at the sides
and
> of course are the easiest to implement on a satellite.
>
> My point is all circular antennas are not equal and having an antenna with
> gain on the sides opposed to the center of the antenna is very desirable.
>
> Art,
> KC6UQH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Bob Bruninga
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 3:25 PM
> To: Thomas Doyle
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx andrew abken
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question
>
> > Not sure why anyone would want to maintain the
> > orientation of the satellite in such a way that
> > would cause the direction of circular
> > polarization to change during the path.
>
> Lets try this approach... As I said before,  By the laws of physics, what
> comes out one side of a circular polarized low gain antenna as RHCP comes
> out the opposite side as LHCP.
>
> Now given that, and the fact that someone in Maryland is in the center of
> the RHCP beam, then by the laws of physics, the guy in California must see
> mostly LHCP.  No matter how much one of those persons demands that he
> deserves the RHCP beam, by definition, someone else somewhere will get the
> LHCP one, and the geometry changes at least every 10 minutes or so and
every
> time the spacecraft rotates a bit.
>
> So one might say, "point it down" then only the person in Kansas will see
> the main beam and those in CA or MD will be completely off the sides
almost
> 70 degrees from the main beam.  Mot people do not realize how LOW these
> satellites are.  The only solution is to put satellites so high, that
"down"
> is about the same to everyone (geostationary altitude).  But then that
takes
> 100 times more altitude, and that takes 10,000 times more power.
>
> Better to just live with the laws of physics... I guess.
>
> Bob, WB4aPR
>
> >
> >On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >>> I believe that is true but that does not explain
> >>> why the optimum polarity setting on the receive
> >>> end would change during a pass.
> >>
> >> That's easy.  The circularity on a pair of crossed dipoles (about all
> you can get on a spacecraft) May be designed for Right hand circularity
when
> viewed from the prime direction.  But by definition, that save waveform
will
> be LHC when viewed from the opposite direction.
> >>
> >> And since the geometry to any one observer is constantly changing by
> almost 180 degrees during an overhead pass, that is why it is very easy to
> see, complete change in circularity.
> >>
> >> Bob, WB4APR
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Sent from my computer.
> >
> >tom ...
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 15:56:18 -0700
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
To: "'i8cvs'" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>, "'AMSAT-BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	"'Bob Bruninga '" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>,	"'Thomas
Doyle'" <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question
Message-ID: <D25B3831F2724906ADC61711BB79525F@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Domenico,

You are correct, the crossed dipoles fed in quadrature when on axis exhibit
LH and RH circular patterns, but 90 degrees from axis they are linearly
polarized. This gives poor performance at low angles as well as requiring
both RH and LH rotations for a full pass reception.

Obviously the QFH antenna to be effective should point down at the earth,
with the sides pointing to the horizon and the backside towards outer space.
The one wave one turn can be optimized,(Length to Diameter ratio)to provide
best radiation at the horizon. This will give good performance when the
satellite is near zenith as well as provide improved performance at low
elevations.

Circular polarization does help to eliminate multipath and provide a steady
copy, even while the antenna is mechanically rotating with the satellite for
stabilization and temperature stability.

Art,
KC6UQH

-----Original Message-----
From: i8cvs [mailto:domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xxx
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 3:27 PM
To: AMSAT-BB; Bob Bruninga ; kc6uqh@xxx.xxxx Thomas Doyle
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question

Hi Art, KC6UQH

It is correct that a QFH is circularly polarized over the whole envelope
of the antenna.If it is left wound the polarization is RHCP and if it is
right wound the resulting polarization is LHCP.

By the way the point is the satellite antenna.

If the satellite antenna is made using two crossed dipoles mounted in the
same mechanical plane and are supplied with 90? out of phase than the
radiated polarization is RHCP along one axial direction and LHCP along
the other axial direction.

Since the satellite is thumbling orbiting in the space than the polarization
coming from the satellite to earth or coming from the ground station to
the satellite is continuing changing from RHCP to LHCP to linear passing
through elliptical.

The bad point is that a QFH can only radiate RHCP or LHCP depending
on it's winding direction so that using only one QFH the QSB generated
by the satellite thumbling cannot be completely eliminated and two
switchable QFH's one RHCP and the other one LHCP would be necessary.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
To: "'Bob Bruninga '" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>; "'Thomas Doyle'"
<tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "'andrew abken'" <kn6za@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question


> Bob,
> Just a reminder, a QFH antenna is circularly polarized over the whole
> envelope of the antenna. A sharp null exists on the back side. A one
> wavelength, one turn has gain at low angle side radiation and a 4 dB loss
> overhead, where the distance to the ground station is the smallest.
> Certainly this is a good fit for satellites.
>
> Turnstile antennas and patch antennas are linear polarized at the sides
and
> of course are the easiest to implement on a satellite.
>
> My point is all circular antennas are not equal and having an antenna with
> gain on the sides opposed to the center of the antenna is very desirable.
>
> Art,
> KC6UQH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Bob Bruninga
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 3:25 PM
> To: Thomas Doyle
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx andrew abken
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Polarization Technical Question
>
> > Not sure why anyone would want to maintain the
> > orientation of the satellite in such a way that
> > would cause the direction of circular
> > polarization to change during the path.
>
> Lets try this approach... As I said before,  By the laws of physics, what
> comes out one side of a circular polarized low gain antenna as RHCP comes
> out the opposite side as LHCP.
>
> Now given that, and the fact that someone in Maryland is in the center of
> the RHCP beam, then by the laws of physics, the guy in California must see
> mostly LHCP.  No matter how much one of those persons demands that he
> deserves the RHCP beam, by definition, someone else somewhere will get the
> LHCP one, and the geometry changes at least every 10 minutes or so and
every
> time the spacecraft rotates a bit.
>
> So one might say, "point it down" then only the person in Kansas will see
> the main beam and those in CA or MD will be completely off the sides
almost
> 70 degrees from the main beam.  Mot people do not realize how LOW these
> satellites are.  The only solution is to put satellites so high, that
"down"
> is about the same to everyone (geostationary altitude).  But then that
takes
> 100 times more altitude, and that takes 10,000 times more power.
>
> Better to just live with the laws of physics... I guess.
>
> Bob, WB4aPR
>
> >
> >On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >>> I believe that is true but that does not explain
> >>> why the optimum polarity setting on the receive
> >>> end would change during a pass.
> >>
> >> That's easy.  The circularity on a pair of crossed dipoles (about all
> you can get on a spacecraft) May be designed for Right hand circularity
when
> viewed from the prime direction.  But by definition, that save waveform
will
> be LHC when viewed from the opposite direction.
> >>
> >> And since the geometry to any one observer is constantly changing by
> almost 180 degrees during an overhead pass, that is why it is very easy to
> see, complete change in circularity.
> >>
> >> Bob, WB4APR
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Sent from my computer.
> >
> >tom ...
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 18:07:55 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: ANS Submission <ans-editor@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	SAREX-BB <SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board of Directors Election Reminder
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHDFqaF0wkYw6SCpXD53NPOr4r40HnGsdOTqezNVTmdzfQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I guess it takes longer for Canada?

Stefan, VE4NSA

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Alan P. Biddle <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> By now, all members in good standing of AMSAT-NA should have received their
> ballots, including the position biographies by the candidates.  Additional
> information for those interested can be found in the minutes of the 2011
> Board Meeting which appear in the current issue of the AMSAT Journal.  We
> have a full slate of candidates this year. Remember, this is one of your
> best opportunities to make your views on the path of our organization
> known.
> More details, courtesy of the AMSAT News Service, can be found below.
>
> 73s,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
> AMSAT Corporate Secretary
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
> AMSAT Board of Directors 2012 Ballots in the Mail
>
> Ballots for the 2012 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors election have been
> mailed to all members. Also included is biographical information
> about each of the candidates.
>
> Select no more than three of the six listed candidates (in alphabetical
> order):
>
> + Tom Clark, K3IO
> + Steve Coy, K8UD
> + Mark Hammond, N8MH
> + Lou McFadin, W5DID
> + Gould Smith, WA4SXM
> + Patrick E. Stoddard, WD9EWK
>
> The 3 candidates receiving the most votes will become directors
> serving 2 year terms. The 2 receiving the next highest number of
> votes will be seated as alternates for 1 year terms.
>
> You must mail your ballot back to be received at the AMSAT-NA Office
> no later than the close of business on September 15, 2012:
>
>    AMSAT
>    850 Sligo Avenue, #600
>    Silver Spring, MD  20910
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 18:23:26 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Stefan Wagener'" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board of Directors Election Reminder
Message-ID: <11CEC0A7F72F4118BB7CED2B5FC12283@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Stefan,

They went out shortly before July 15th, per the bylaws.  Definitely check
with Martha (at) AMSAT (dot) ORG Monday.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Wagener [mailto:wageners@xxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 6:08 PM
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB; SAREX-BB; ANS Submission
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Board of Directors Election Reminder

I guess it takes longer for Canada?

Stefan, VE4NSA


On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Alan P. Biddle <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:


By now, all members in good standing of AMSAT-NA should have
received their
ballots, including the position biographies by the candidates.
Additional
information for those interested can be found in the minutes of the
2011
Board Meeting which appear in the current issue of the AMSAT
Journal.  We
have a full slate of candidates this year. Remember, this is one of
your
best opportunities to make your views on the path of our
organization known..
More details, courtesy of the AMSAT News Service, can be found
below.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA
AMSAT Corporate Secretary

--------------------------------------------


AMSAT Board of Directors 2012 Ballots in the Mail

Ballots for the 2012 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors election have been
mailed to all members. Also included is biographical information
about each of the candidates.

Select no more than three of the six listed candidates (in
alphabetical
order):

+ Tom Clark, K3IO
+ Steve Coy, K8UD
+ Mark Hammond, N8MH
+ Lou McFadin, W5DID
+ Gould Smith, WA4SXM
+ Patrick E. Stoddard, WD9EWK

The 3 candidates receiving the most votes will become directors
serving 2 year terms. The 2 receiving the next highest number of
votes will be seated as alternates for 1 year terms.

You must mail your ballot back to be received at the AMSAT-NA Office
no later than the close of business on September 15, 2012:

   AMSAT
   850 Sligo Avenue, #600
   Silver Spring, MD  20910


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:52:35 -0500
From: "Vince, K9TSU" <k9tsu@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] /portable!
Message-ID:
<CALRttT3_c-_BTpDoXGOf2B-HDeqrar26d0Sw-EhDCC9R8UJ3YA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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The 6th, 7th and 8th I'll be portable and mobile in EN53 and EN54 on So50
and Ao27.

de
K9TSU


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:38:43 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mars Science Laboratory Landing Coverage
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkPN2BBhcOBZUXPc7TgtvOgUd+OHfYvpK1M-JMUrmt0GWQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

http://spaceflightnow.com/mars/msl/status.html
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

Landing less than 1 hour from now.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 05:36:23 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mars Science Laboratory Landing Confirmed
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkPkBxQEf95254_afFjvKi=DUrP__r6psGbbVC6dTowUOQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

The first image has been transmitted and received.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 16:00:43 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
To: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mars Science Laboratory Landing Confirmed
Message-ID: <501f5d9a.48da440a.290d.ffffa470@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 03:36 PM 8/6/2012, B J wrote:
>The first image has been transmitted and received.

Watched the whole landing, awesome stuff. :)

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:10:17 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mars Science Laboratory Landing Confirmed
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkN1d2d_u3fW6U5tNW1DmsknRc8hg=eMYnd1_wU3fC-VGQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 8/6/12, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> At 03:36 PM 8/6/2012, B J wrote:
>>The first image has been transmitted and received.
>
> Watched the whole landing, awesome stuff. :)
>
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
>
>

I'm watching the post-landing press conference right now.  It sounds
like things went better than initially planned, but that'll be
confirmed later on.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:40:58 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Curiosity - VK1ALR Canberra Deep Space
Communication	Complex Interview
Message-ID:
<1344238858.71350.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

The Operations Manager at the Canberra Deep Space Communication Complex
VK1ALR was interviewed by the Canberra Times newspaper, see

See http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=9407

N8MH to speak at AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium,
Guildford, Sept. 15-16
http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=9388

73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:51:50 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Curiosity - VK1ALR Canberra Deep Space
Communication	Complex Interview
Message-ID:
<1344243110.66524.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter has a UHF transponder ?MELACOM? (401-437
MHz) and 2 patch antennas to communicate with any landed asset on Mars
surface supporting the CCSDS Proximity-1 protocol.

Read the paper Mars Express and the NASA landers and rovers on Mars -
Sustaining a backup relay in an interplanetary network
http://www.spaceops2012.org/proceedings/documents/id1295328-Paper-003.pdf

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Mon, 6/8/12, Trevor . <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> The Operations Manager at the
> Canberra Deep Space Communication Complex VK1ALR was
> interviewed by the Canberra Times newspaper, see
>
> See http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=9407
>
> N8MH to speak at AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium,
> Guildford, Sept. 15-16
> http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=9388




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