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Today's Topics:
1. Re: PWsat and Almasat (Armando Mercado)
2. Re: one last thing (i8cvs)
3. Software for Demos and Education (Thomas Doyle)
4. Re: Software for Demos and Education (Gordon JC Pearce)
5. Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations (Daniel Schultz)
6. Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations (Stefan Wagener)
7. Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations (Lee Maisel)
8. Re: Software for Demos and Education (Clint Bradford)
9. Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations (STeve Andre')
10. Watch Venus Transit Online (Clint Bradford)
11. Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations (Bob- W7LRD)
12. Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations
(Jari Koivurinne)
13. full duplex w/ 2 HT's (Robert Coppock)
14. Re: full duplex w/ 2 HT's (Greg D)
15. thanks for the help / info (Robert Coppock)
16. Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest
(Robert G Oler)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:20:25 -0400
From: "Armando Mercado" <am25544@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PWsat and Almasat
Message-ID: <1E93247DC8654B728A8B4F256C24CBE5@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Drew,
So far as I know, Almasat went silent about
a week after launch.
PWsat transmits irregularlly but can usually
be heard every daylight pass. For what
little I can get from the PWsat web site
(in Polish) it seems to have a power
problem.
It's de-orbit sail has not yet been
deployed. No mention on the web site
of when or if the AO-16 style repeater
would be turned on.
73, Armando N8IGJ
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Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:55:04 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] PWsat and Almasat
Message-ID: <9C70E935-E286-494D-A9D5-2AA880FD688B@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Anyone have any news on how these two sats are doing?
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 22:59:27 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Alan Beck" <becka@xxxxxxxx.xx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: one last thing
Message-ID: <000801cd4039$6f432f80$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Beck" <becka@xxxxxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 7:55 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] one last thing
> Sorry for generating another email.
>
> I am using a 432 to 7 mhz downcoverter at the antenna.
>
> Alan
>
Hi Alan,VY2WU
In your installation with the downconverter at the antenna it
is possible that your 75 feet of coax cable RG8X will directly
pick up some strong signal radiated into the 7 MHz band IF
because the shielding of the braid of a RG8X is not very
efficient.
A better solution is to put a 432 MHz low noise preamplifier
at the antenna and the downconverter in the shack.
The low noise preamplifier should have at least a NF=0.8 dB
and gain G= 20 dB
I remember when I was receiving the Meteorological satellites
transmitting into 136 - 138 MHz using an antenna mounted
downconverter with an IF from 26 to 28 MHz and I was interfered
by local CB stations transmitting on 27 MHz
73" de i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:03:33 -0500
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Software for Demos and Education
Message-ID:
<CAHnRQRKHD+ncebax5BtQCUvePsbKB8uaDC_ngzRjF+9h16+wwg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi,
Thanks for all the positive feedback I received on the SimpleSat Look Down
program.
It is very rewarding to share something with the satellite community and
have it well
received.
I have been informed by the AMSAT administration that my YouTube video and
the 'SimpleSat Look Down' program is in violation of one or more of their
rule(s).
To comply with their requirements I have modified the program and shot and
uploaded a new YouTube video.
The new version of the program has been uploaded to the web site and the
website now
links to the new YouTube video.
To keep within the Spirit of the AMSAT regulations I think it would be best
if all those
who downloaded the 'SimpleSat Look Down' program destroy any copies they
may have
of the program then download and use only the new version. Don't worry, the
program has
not changed much. I do not want anyone else to get in trouble with the
AMSAT administration.
The new YouTube video looks great in full screen HD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYUmiUDr6YA
You can download the new AMSAT compliant version of the program on the
website.
http://www.tomdoyle.org/simplesatlookdown
The only remaining problem is the page on the AMSAT-UK web site they so
kindly
put up has a direct link to the offending YouTube video. Unfortunately
YouTube
does not allow any changes to a video once it has been uploaded. As a result
I had to upload the new video and this resulted in a new link address. Since
I had to delete the illegal video there is now a dead link on the AMSAT-UK
page.
Sorry but there is no other way to do it.
http://www.uk.amsat.org/7831
None of this is a big deal. Have fun.
73 de W9KE Tom Doyle
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:21:01 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Software for Demos and Education
Message-ID: <4FC9404D.50003@xxxx.xxx>
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On 01/06/12 23:03, Thomas Doyle wrote:
> I have been informed by the AMSAT administration that my YouTube video and
> the 'SimpleSat Look Down' program is in violation of one or more of their
> rule(s).
Just as a matter of interest, what rules was it in violation of and why?
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:54:11 -0400
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations
Message-ID: <663qFaX2L2208S01.1338594851@xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Keep in mind that any ham radio transponder on the moon will not be an "easy
sat". You will need an EME class station to work it.
If we build a lunar transponder, we can expect to see many, many postings on
Amsat-BB about how Amsat only cares about elite hams and is not interested in
building satellites for the common ham.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun to have a transponder on the moon, and we in
the USA might even be able to help you build it if they get ITAR fixed in
time, but we better put on the flame proof trousers when we announce the
project to the masses.
Dan Schultz N8FGV
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:58:44 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Daniel Schultz <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHCNY7CTes5_RAFp9GmwNKRHQs6nY_g=HkqnCzgYf6Ptng@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Thanks Dan,
Point well taken. Now, keep in mind we can find 1001 reasons why not. On
the other hand, how about reasons to do it? How many times will we ever get
a "free" ride to the moon surface? At this stage we need to declare our
interest and yes ITAR is a potential problem. However, how about we support
AMSAT-DL (in case they go for it) or AMSAT-UK or AMSAT-IT. Encourage them
to move on this. There are means and ways (for the US) to work with others
without being limited by ITAR. It is just too bad that so many times we
seem to focus on the difficulties and loose sight of the opportunities.
Thanks again, appreciate your feedback.
Stefan VE4NSA
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Daniel Schultz <n8fgv@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Keep in mind that any ham radio transponder on the moon will not be an
> "easy
> sat". You will need an EME class station to work it.
>
> If we build a lunar transponder, we can expect to see many, many postings
> on
> Amsat-BB about how Amsat only cares about elite hams and is not interested
> in
> building satellites for the common ham.
>
> I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun to have a transponder on the moon, and
> we in
> the USA might even be able to help you build it if they get ITAR fixed in
> time, but we better put on the flame proof trousers when we announce the
> project to the masses.
>
> Dan Schultz N8FGV
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 20:14:32 -0600
From: Lee Maisel <maisel@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations
Message-ID: <4FC97708.3050803@xxxx.xxx>
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I disagree about having to have a EME class station if we put a
transponder on the moon.
The reason being, since the same side is always facing the earth, a
directional high gain antenna may be used on the transponder itself!
Lee
W5LMM
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 21:05:01 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Software for Demos and Education
Message-ID: <9B44B508-B239-4305-8BB0-81195EEA6B0C@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Might be the use of the AMSAT-NA logo without asking permission.
And if so, it should be easily remedied ... I mean, who would want to hold
up the
positive promotion of AMSAT-NA to audiences?
But I am just guessing ...
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 00:20:35 -0400
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations
Message-ID: <4FC99493.6090803@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 06/01/12 19:54, Daniel Schultz wrote:
> Keep in mind that any ham radio transponder on the moon will not be an "easy
> sat". You will need an EME class station to work it.
>
> If we build a lunar transponder, we can expect to see many, many postings on
> Amsat-BB about how Amsat only cares about elite hams and is not interested
in
> building satellites for the common ham.
>
> I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun to have a transponder on the moon, and
we in
> the USA might even be able to help you build it if they get ITAR fixed in
> time, but we better put on the flame proof trousers when we announce the
> project to the masses.
>
> Dan Schultz N8FGV
>
Are you sure about that, Dan? I'm hardly an expert on EME, still
looking to get there, but based on numbers I worked with some
time ago, even 500mW from the Moon should be copyable with
a good radio, with a yagi and possibly a preamp. This is not to
say that a random HT would work, but I don't think we're talking
of the classic EME-capabile station.
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf en72
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 22:09:12 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Watch Venus Transit Online
Message-ID: <0A57E190-204A-493C-9A12-C6C2D872FA8A@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Let's see how messed up this attempt to share URLs comes out (grin). Here
are a few online sites to watch Venus next week.
<a href="http://venustransit.nasa.gov/2012/transit/"
target="_blank">NASA</a></li>
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/podcasting/nasaedge/index.html"
target="_blank">NASA Edge</a></li>
<a
href="https://gaia.am.ub.es/serviastro/www/html/venus2012/live/index.html"
target="_blank">University of Barcelona</a> (from a telescope in Norway)</li>
<a href="http://venustransit.nso.edu/live.html" target="_blank">National
Solar Observatory</a></li>
San Francisco's <a href="http://www.exploratorium.edu/venus/"
target="_blank">Exploratorium</a> (via the Mauna Loa Observatory)</li>
<a href="http://www.nasa.gov/ntv" target="_blank">NASA TV</a></li>
<a href="http://www.ccssc.org/transit2012.html" target="_blank">Coca Cola
Space Science Center</a> (from Australia)</li>
<a
href="http://www.bareket-astro.com/live-astronomical-web-cast/live-free-venus-
transit-webcast-6-june-2012.html" target="_blank">Bareket observatory</a>
(Israel)</li>
<a href="http://skycenter.arizona.edu/annoucement/live" target="_blank">Mt.
Lemmon Sky Center</a></li>
<a
href="http://www.astronomerswithoutborders.org/projects/transit-of-venus/live-
webcast.html" target="_blank">Astronomers Without Borders</a> (from Mt.
Wilson, California)
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:16:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations
Message-ID:
<66212944.601282.1338614203156.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxxxx
x.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Just for the "fun" of it I'd like to see an accurate link budget written
up.? It is a little bit out of my comfort zone.? Maybe Domenico or one of
you who has this knowledge could do it.? I may even learn something.
73 Bob W7LRD
antennas still down
----- Original Message -----
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:20:35 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations
On 06/01/12 19:54, Daniel Schultz wrote:
> Keep in mind that any ham radio transponder on the moon will not be an "easy
> sat". You will need an EME class station to work it.
>
> If we build a lunar transponder, we can expect to see many, many postings on
> Amsat-BB about how Amsat only cares about elite hams and is not interested
in
> building satellites for the common ham.
>
> I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun to have a transponder on the moon, and
we in
> the USA might even be able to help you build it if they get ITAR fixed in
> time, but we better put on the flame proof trousers when we announce the
> project to the masses.
>
> Dan Schultz N8FGV
>
Are you sure about that, Dan? ?I'm hardly an expert on EME, still
looking to get there, but based on numbers I worked with some
time ago, even 500mW from the Moon should be copyable with
a good radio, with a yagi and possibly a ?preamp. ?This is not to
say that a random HT would work, but I don't think we're talking
of the classic EME-capabile station.
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf ?en72
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:55:58 -0000
From: "Jari Koivurinne" <jari.koivurinne@xxxx.xxx>
To: "'Lee Maisel'" <maisel@xxxx.xxx>, "'amsat-bb'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations
Message-ID: <000901cd4084$62004ce0$2600e6a0$@xxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
> I disagree about having to have a EME class station if we put a
> transponder on the moon.
> The reason being, since the same side is always facing the earth, a
> directional high gain antenna may be used on the transponder itself!
>
> Lee
> W5LMM
How big antenna and what band should be used? Please calculate the best
combination here:
http://www.changpuak.ch/electronics/calc_10.php
Note that you need about -120dBm signal to be heard in receiver.
The path is about 400000km (240000 miles).
-jari oh3uw ;-)
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:33:33 -0700
From: Robert Coppock <robertinorbit@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] full duplex w/ 2 HT's
Message-ID: <SNT131-W64C40D1B3608B626990A0AA0090@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
hola, i am trying to determine the best way to work full duplex on the
birds with 2 HT's or radios. i cannot find any info so far on the web. my
concern is to keep the transmit power out of the receive radio, i guess
basically the difference between a diplexer and duplexer. since i am
efficient (lazy) i thought i would just look for suggestions here while i am
checking google also. what do i need, di/du/ plexer, and what is the
correct wiring scheme ? i will be using the arrow antenna without the built
in duplexer, from the 2 feeds (vhf/uhf) and 2 HT's for now. my picture of
it so far, is to wire the vhf radio direct to the vhf feed port on the
arrow, and have the uhf port on the arrow come into a duplexer, with the
duplexer uhf port going to the uhf radio, and the duplexer vhf port
terminated into a 50 ohm dummy load. also, any suggestions of specific
duplexers would be appreciated. i think i started on this project a few
years ago, but never got around to getti!
ng it all together. grazie mille, Robert k f 0 g cn81 in the
woodwork, literally,
shasta/klamath national forests.
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:04:18 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Robert Coppock <robertinorbit@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: full duplex w/ 2 HT's
Message-ID: <4FCA4792.5050204@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
If I understand your wiring, I think you have it correct.
Is this what you are trying to do?
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/articles/Mode-J/
Note that for mode-B satellites where you are transmitting on 70cm and
receiving on 2m, this won't work. In my experience, the extra filtering
is also not needed there.
Good luck,
Greg KO6TH
>
>
>
> hola, i am trying to determine the best way to work full duplex on the
birds with 2 HT's or radios. i cannot find any info so far on the web. my
concern is to keep the transmit power out of the receive radio, i guess
basically the difference between a diplexer and duplexer. since i am
efficient (lazy) i thought i would just look for suggestions here while i am
checking google also. what do i need, di/du/ plexer, and what is the
correct wiring scheme ? i will be using the arrow antenna without the built
in duplexer, from the 2 feeds (vhf/uhf) and 2 HT's for now. my picture of
it so far, is to wire the vhf radio direct to the vhf feed port on the
arrow, and have the uhf port on the arrow come into a duplexer, with the
duplexer uhf port going to the uhf radio, and the duplexer vhf port
terminated into a 50 ohm dummy load. also, any suggestions of specific
duplexers would be appreciated. i think i started on this project a few
years ago, but never got around to get!
ti!
> ng it all together. grazie mille, Robert k f 0 g cn81 in the
woodwork, literally,
shasta/klamath national forests.
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:29:01 -0700
From: Robert Coppock <robertinorbit@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] thanks for the help / info
Message-ID: <SNT131-W87B63B578A12ECFD1EE19A0090@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
ahoy,
thank you to Bruce-kk5do , Rick-wa4nvm , Dave-kb1vph , Greg-ko6th ,
Eric-on4hf , Scott-n1aia for the replies and help. i was looking at the
comet cf-4160 (must be the new version), if i need it, and will be on the
air from grid cn81 soon. i have a new LiIon battery on order, so i can run
full power, 5W, from my th-f6a. thanks very much !
Robert k f 0 g
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:49:08 -0500
From: Robert G Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations
of Interest
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP35137FB45219811B61EB89CD6090@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
It is to bad that the concentration couldn't be on something clever that
would earn us some mass for a transponder. Like say some sort antenna that
is deplorable and would massively increase the data rates.. Like an
inflatable. Robert WB5MZO
Sent from my iPad
On May 31, 2012, at 12:46, "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
> Hi Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> I believe that ESA is interested to have a payload placed on the moon only
to make important and particular experiments that are impossible to manage
to put something into earth orbit.
>
> The capability of an Amateur Radio transponder to communicate between us
or for educational outreach and training opportunities associated with it
can be experimented even placing a transponder on earth orbit or on top of a
hill.
>
> As you realize for the moment ESA seems to be not to much interested on
satellite amateur radio P3E and scientific probe P5A to Mars,figure out to
place an amateur radio transponder on the Moon.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stefan Wagener
> To: i8cvs
> Cc: Amsat - BBs
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of
Interest
>
>
> Yes Domenico,
>
>
> You are correct. However, that particular ESA proposal is not about
putting it into orbit. It is an opportunity to have a payload placed on the
moon. Once ESA has a proposal to put something into orbit, by all means.
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
> Stefan
>
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
>
> Hi Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> It does not make sense to put a transponder on the Moon just for the
simple
> reason that it's much more, simple and cheap to put it into earth orbit.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:06 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of
> Interest
>
>
>
>> ESA has posted a very unique opportunity:
>>
>> http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/HSF_Research/SEMGUMZWD2H_2.html
>>
>> Wouldn't it be great if the key AMSAT organizations put a proposal
> together
>> to put a ham radio transponder on the moon. It can have all the cool
>> educational outreach and training opportunities associated with it. Let's
>> encourage the AMSAT leadership teams to move quickly. We can do it, don't
>> you think?
>>
>> Stefan VE4NSA
>
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>
>
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