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Today's Topics:
1. Go Erie - Students Building Part of AMSAT satellite (Trevor .)
2. Re: Circular polarization (Trevor .)
3. Re: Circular polarization (i8cvs)
4. Re: Circular polarization (N0JY)
5. Re: Circular polarization (i8cvs)
6. Re: Circular polarization (i8cvs)
7. Re: Go Erie - Students Building Part of AMSAT satellite (N0JY)
8. Fw: DELFI C3 Close Approach Message (Peter Portanova)
9. Re: Go Erie - Students Building Part of AMSAT satellite
(Anthony Monteiro)
10. Re: Circular polarization (Raul Romero)
11. Re: Circular polarization (i8cvs)
12. Re: Go Erie - Students Building Part of AMSAT satellite (Trevor .)
13. Fw: Update: DELFI C3 Close Approach Message (Peter Portanova)
14. Tis Me, (Ellis Foley)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 21:32:53 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Go Erie - Students Building Part of AMSAT
satellite
Message-ID:
<1336941173.21754.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Go Erie reports on the work of students from Penn State Behrend who have
been building part of a satellite for AMSAT.
See http://www.uk.amsat.org/7381
The report says:
"They admit, though, that they're a little disappointed their project will
likely have to hitch a ride aboard a Russian spacecraft now that the shuttle
program has been discontinued."
I initially assumed the satellite in question was FOX until I saw the
Russian reference.
Can someone clarify which satellite is being referred to.
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 21:59:02 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx David 4X1DG <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
Message-ID:
<1336942742.93313.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I've found circular gives consistantly better results than a linear
polarized antenna with the current amateur satellites.
The IARU-R1 VHF Managers Handbook mentions standards for polarization on
page 122. It can be downloaded at
http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=173&func=startdo
wn&id=428
73 Trevor M5AKA
--- On Sun, 13/5/12, David 4X1DG <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Is a UHF circular polarization
> antenna needed for the current operational
> satellites?
> I am planning some work on my antenna system and wonder if
> the CP
> is needed, or actually, deteriorate the signal by 3dB if the
> satellites are using linear antennae??
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
> Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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> satellite program!
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>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 01:12:04 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
Message-ID: <003101cd315d$d0634a60$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular polarization
> Is a UHF circular polarization antenna needed for the current operational
> satellites?
> I am planning some work on my antenna system and wonder if the CP
> is needed, or actually, deteriorate the signal by 3dB if the satellites
> are using linear antennae??
>
Hi David, 4X1DG
It is a long matter to explain in a few words so that in a separate email
I have sent to you the 5 MB zipped file of the following nice article:
"The Advantages of Circular Polarization for Amateur Satellite Ground
Stations" by John J. Nagle, K4KJ
I can send the above artiche to anybody interested to it.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 18:43:18 -0500
From: N0JY <n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
Message-ID: <4FB04716.7020407@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
That has been my assessment and experience, too. Signals are consistent
and there isn't any fiddling or switching polarization to worry about
although I do find different results in signal strength between RHCP and
LHCP on the same satellite sometimes.
73,
Jerry
N0JY
On 5/13/2012 3:59 PM, Trevor . wrote:
> I've found circular gives consistantly better results than a linear
polarized antenna with the current amateur satellites.
>
> The IARU-R1 VHF Managers Handbook mentions standards for polarization on
page 122. It can be downloaded at
>
http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=173&func=startdo
wn&id=428
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
> --- On Sun, 13/5/12, David 4X1DG<4x1dg@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Is a UHF circular polarization
>> antenna needed for the current operational
>> satellites?
>> I am planning some work on my antenna system and wonder if
>> the CP
>> is needed, or actually, deteriorate the signal by 3dB if the
>> satellites are using linear antennae??
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
>> Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
>> satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 02:03:32 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Andre"
<sats@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xx>, "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
Message-ID: <000001cd3165$4c303ca0$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
---- Original Message -----
From: "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular polarization
> >
> >Is a UHF circular polarization antenna needed for the current operational
> >satellites?
> >I am planning some work on my antenna system and wonder if the CP
> >is needed, or actually, deteriorate the signal by 3dB if the satellites
> >are
> > using linear antennae??
> >
> The best option would probably be a rotatable antenna, a sat will never be
> fully horizontal vertical or circular, sometimes it even makes a
> difference when you flip 180 degrees.
>
> --
>73 Andre PE1RDW
Hi Andre, PE1RDW
I agree.
A rotatable boom by 90 degrees is a very good option for a linear antenna
because in a certain moment a sat can send to you a polarization between
linear or through circular i.e. an elliptical polarization that can be
matched by turning the antenna over the boom.
BTW since the polarization changes very rapidly the speed of rotation of the
boom must be very fast, let say maximum 10 seconds or less to rotate from
0? to 90?
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 02:43:33 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "Ib Christoffersen"
<oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, David 4X1DG <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
Message-ID: <000001cd316a$d906ac40$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
----- Original Message -----
From: "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular polarization
>
> Is a UHF circular polarization antenna needed for the current operational
> satellites?
> I am planning some work on my antenna system and wonder if the CP
> is needed, or actually, deteriorate the signal by 3dB if the satellites
> are using linear antennae??
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Ib Christoffersen" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:13 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
>
<snip>
> I believe Domenico had a scheme for switching any of the four.
> These uncertainty's make it fun.
>
> still rebuilding all antennas
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> Seattle
>
Hi Bob, W7LRD
My articles "SWITCHING FOUR POLARIZATION ON A 70 cm CROSSED
YAGI" was published in AMSAT-Journal March/April 2007 Part-1 and May/June
2007 Part-2
I can send both articles in pdf files to anyone is interested on it.
73" de i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 20:31:06 -0500
From: N0JY <n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Go Erie - Students Building Part of AMSAT
satellite
Message-ID: <4FB0605A.50204@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Another group of Penn State Erie students developed an experiment for
Fox-1. It is a 3-axis gyro sensor that will measure satellite spin
rate, spin
direction, and wobble about the magnetic axis in orbit.
It's interesting that they got no mention in the local news about their
project. They just graduated May 4, as well.
Their experiment is on track to be launched on Fox-1 in 2013.
I do not know specifically what satellite the project referenced in the
news article is bound for, Trevor, but I'm sure there are others
monitoring who do. There are a few inaccuracies in this news report as
one generally finds these days, like AMSAT launching its first satellite
in 2006! :-)
73,
Jerry
N0JY
On 5/13/2012 3:32 PM, Trevor . wrote:
> Go Erie reports on the work of students from Penn State Behrend who have
been building part of a satellite for AMSAT.
>
> See http://www.uk.amsat.org/7381
>
> The report says:
>
> "They admit, though, that they're a little disappointed their project will
likely have to hitch a ride aboard a Russian spacecraft now that the shuttle
program has been discontinued."
>
> I initially assumed the satellite in question was FOX until I saw the
Russian reference.
>
> Can someone clarify which satellite is being referred to.
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 21:46:20 -0400
From: "Peter Portanova" <wb2oqq@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: DELFI C3 Close Approach Message
Message-ID: <9FFB4A3BE5074F9DA011A2068F2A0342@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original
Hello,
FYI-
73
WB2OQQ
-----Original Message-----
From: JSpOC/Space Correspondence
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:54 AM
To: Peter Portanova
Cc: DEWITT, JAMES L CTR USAF AFSPC 614 AOC/OL-D ; PETRUNA, STACEY L CTR USAF
AFSPC 614 AOC/OL-D ; JSpOC/Space Correspondence
Subject: DELFI C3 Close Approach Message
Sir/Ma'am,
The United States Joint Space Operations Center (JSpOC) has identified a
predicted conjunction between DELFI C3 (SCC# 32789) and SCC# 3569.
Primary Object: DELFI C3 (SCC# 32789)
Secondary Object: SCC# 3569
Time of Closest Approach: 15 MAY 2012 06:38 UTC
Overall miss distance: 142 meters
Radial (dU) miss distance: 126 meters
In-Track (dV) miss distance: 53 meters
Cross-track (dW) miss distance: -42 meters
Primary Radial Error (U): 19 meters
Primary In-track Error (V): 960 meters
Primary Cross-track Error (W): 30 meters
Secondary Radial Error (U): 19 meters
Secondary In-track Error (V): 301 meters
Secondary Cross-track Error (W): 31 meters
Very Respectfully,
JSpOC Orbital Protection Team
Joint Space Operations Center
Vandenberg Air Force Base, California USA
NO WARRANTIES: The United States provides the enclosed Space Situational
Awareness (SSA) services or information "as is" and makes no warranty,
either express or implied, as to the condition or suitability of the
information and services, nor its fitness for a particular purpose.
IMMUNITY: The United States, any agencies and instrumentalities thereof, and
any individuals, firms, corporations, and other persons acting for the
United States, shall be immune from any suit in any court for any cause of
action arising from the provision or receipt of SSA services or information,
whether or not provided in accordance with 10 USC 2274, or any related
action or omission.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 22:05:59 -0400
From: Anthony Monteiro <aa2tx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Trevor <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Go Erie - Students Building Part of AMSAT
satellite
Message-ID: <4FB06887.1070407@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi Trevor,
Unfortunately, there were several
errors in the article. AMSAT was not
involved in the article preparation.
AMSAT sponsored this senior design project
at Penn State for the 2011-2012 academic
year. The students developed a super-capacitor
based energy storage device to replace the
battery on ARISSat type satellites. The
advantage of super-capacitors is very long
life but they do not yet have sufficient energy
density to use on a CubeSat.
73,
Tony AA2TX
---
On 5/13/2012 4:32 PM, Trevor . wrote:
> Go Erie reports on the work of students from Penn State Behrend who have
been building part of a satellite for AMSAT.
>
> See http://www.uk.amsat.org/7381
>
> The report says:
>
> "They admit, though, that they're a little disappointed their project will
likely have to hitch a ride aboard a Russian spacecraft now that the shuttle
program has been discontinued."
>
> I initially assumed the satellite in question was FOX until I saw the
Russian reference.
>
> Can someone clarify which satellite is being referred to.
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 22:26:16 -0400
From: "Raul Romero" <ce3soc@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'i8cvs'" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>, "'Bob- W7LRD'"
<w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'Ib Christoffersen'" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: 'Amsat - BBs' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, 'David 4X1DG' <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
Message-ID: <046001cd3178$f3c0ae60$db420b20$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
http://www.pa3guo.com/cushcraft_416tb.html
-----Mensaje original-----
De: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx En nombre
de i8cvs
Enviado el: domingo, 13 de mayo de 2012 20:44
Para: Bob- W7LRD; Ib Christoffersen
CC: Amsat - BBs; David 4X1DG
Asunto: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
----- Original Message -----
From: "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular polarization
>
> Is a UHF circular polarization antenna needed for the current
> operational satellites?
> I am planning some work on my antenna system and wonder if the CP is
> needed, or actually, deteriorate the signal by 3dB if the satellites
> are using linear antennae??
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Ib Christoffersen" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:13 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
>
<snip>
> I believe Domenico had a scheme for switching any of the four.
> These uncertainty's make it fun.
>
> still rebuilding all antennas
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> Seattle
>
Hi Bob, W7LRD
My articles "SWITCHING FOUR POLARIZATION ON A 70 cm CROSSED YAGI" was
published in AMSAT-Journal March/April 2007 Part-1 and May/June
2007 Part-2
I can send both articles in pdf files to anyone is interested on it.
73" de i8CVS Domenico
_______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:30:07 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
Message-ID: <002701cd31ab$c5ae5e40$0401a8c0@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Bob, W7LRD
Your provider @xxxxxxx.xxx rejects my post to you via my provider @xxx.xx
BTW I will try to send you the article.
Please let me know if it arrives.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob- W7LRD
To: i8cvs
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
Hello Domenico...I would like to see that information
73 Bob W7LRD
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From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 4:12:04 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Circular polarization
----- Original Message -----
From: "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Circular polarization
> Is a UHF circular polarization antenna needed for the current operational
> satellites?
> I am planning some work on my antenna system and wonder if the CP
> is needed, or actually, deteriorate the signal by 3dB if the satellites
> are using linear antennae??
>
Hi David, 4X1DG
It is a long matter to explain in a few words so that in a separate email
I have sent to you the 5 MB zipped file of the following nice article:
"The Advantages of Circular Polarization for Amateur Satellite Ground
Stations" by John J. Nagle, K4KJ
I can send the above artiche to anybody interested to it.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
_______________________________________________
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:24:04 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Go Erie - Students Building Part of AMSAT
satellite
Message-ID:
<1336994644.77361.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
--- On Mon, 14/5/12, Anthony Monteiro <aa2tx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> AMSAT sponsored this senior design project
> at Penn State for the 2011-2012 academic
> year. The students developed a super-capacitor
> based energy storage device to replace the
> battery on ARISSat type satellites.
A plug-in replacement for the silver zinc battery, sounds good, hope an
opportunity to fly it comes up soon.
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:13:23 -0400
From: "Peter Portanova" <wb2oqq@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: Update: DELFI C3 Close Approach Message
Message-ID: <6DFFBF634D2048FBB890088F59FF8359@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original
Good Morning,
UPDATE #2
73
WB2OQQ
Subject: Update: DELFI C3 Close Approach Message
Sir/Ma'am,
The United States Joint Space Operations Center (JSpOC) has updated a
predicted conjunction between DELFI C3 (SCC# 32789) and SCC# 3569.
Primary Object: DELFI C3 (SCC# 32789)
Secondary Object: SCC# 3569
Time of Closest Approach: 15 MAY 2012 06:38 UTC
Overall miss distance: 307 meters
Radial (dU) miss distance: 126 meters
In-Track (dV) miss distance: 228 meters
Cross-track (dW) miss distance: -162 meters
Primary Radial Error (U): 17 meters
Primary In-track Error (V): 533 meters
Primary Cross-track Error (W): 29 meters
Secondary Radial Error (U): 17 meters
Secondary In-track Error (V): 216 meters
Secondary Cross-track Error (W): 31 meters
Please reply to this message to acknowledge receipt of this close approach
notification.
Very Respectfully,
JSpOC Orbital Protection Team
Joint Space Operations Center
Vandenberg Air Force Base, California USA
NO WARRANTIES: The United States provides the enclosed Space Situational
Awareness (SSA) services or information "as is" and makes no warranty,
either express or implied, as to the condition or suitability of the
information and services, nor its fitness for a particular purpose.
IMMUNITY: The United States, any agencies and instrumentalities thereof, and
any individuals, firms, corporations, and other persons acting for the
United States, shall be immune from any suit in any court for any cause of
action arising from the provision or receipt of SSA services or information,
whether or not provided in accordance with 10 USC 2274, or any related
action or omission.
------------------------------
Message: 14
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:15:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ellis Foley <wa1rks@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Carli <conciergebrk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat - BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tis Me,
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Return Mail to wa1rks@xxxxx.xxx
Alls quiet on the home front, got trash cans emptied, bed made, and laundry
is in the works one load drying another washing ,quiet all way round
nothing?happening?on the airwaves even the bands are dead. so time to go
check the laundry later Dudette.
de "Das Washer Man"
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