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Today's Topics:
1. satellite antenna (Carlos Poinho)
2. satellite antenna (Carlos Poinho)
3. Re: satellite antenna (Bob Bruninga)
4. Re: satellite antenna (saguaroastro@xxx.xxxx
5. Re: satellite antenna (saguaroastro@xxx.xxxx
6. Re: satellite antenna (Yanko P. Yankov)
7. Re: satellite antenna (Ng, Peter)
8. Re: Use of Amateur Satellite Frequencies by Olympic
andParalympic Games (Gordon JC Pearc e)
9. Re: Use of Amateur Satellite Frequencies by Olympic
andParalympic Games (Ted)
10. Re: satellite antenna (K5OE)
11. Re: satellite antenna (Ted)
12. Re: Flabob Airport ISS Contact (Clint Bradford)
13. Re: Flabob Airport ISS Contact (John Spasojevich)
14. New Launch Date For SpaceX (B J)
15. FW: Re: Flabob Airport ISS Contact (Craig Gagner)
16. satellite antennas (Carlos Poinho)
17. Dayton (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:00:26 +0000
From: Carlos Poinho <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite antenna
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hello all
any one have a good idea for a omni directional antenna for the birds?
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:05:56 +0000
From: Carlos Poinho <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite antenna
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hello all
anyone have a good idea for a omni directional antenna for the birds?
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:16:46 -0400
From: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx>, <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite antenna
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> any one have a good idea for a omni directional antenna for the birds?
3/4 wave vertical. Has almost 7 dBi gain above 30 deg.
For 70cm downlinks, this means a 19.5" vertical over a ground plane. Also
is a perfect 1/4wave on 2 meters.
It's the yellow curve on the plot about 80% down this page:
http://aprs.org/astars.html
Bob, Wb4aPR
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:14:28 -0400
From: <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite antenna
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Carlos,
This is the antenna I homebrewed. Works like charm. Cost me $20.00 in parts
($7.00 of that was shipping for the Capacitors from Mouser).
http://www.wa5vjb.com/references/Cheap%20Antennas-LEOs.pdf
73
Rick
K7TEJ
---- Carlos Poinho <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> hello all
> any one have a good idea for a omni directional antenna for the birds?
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:16:35 -0400
From: <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx saguaroastro@xxx.xxxx cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite antenna
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OK,
I guess I should read the whole thing. Missed the word "OMNI". Still it's a
good antenna and a quick homebrew project. Maybe something your new Sat
Group could do with students?
73
Rick
K7TEJ
---- saguaroastro@xxx.xxx wrote:
> Carlos,
>
> This is the antenna I homebrewed. Works like charm. Cost me $20.00 in
parts ($7.00 of that was shipping for the Capacitors from Mouser).
>
> http://www.wa5vjb.com/references/Cheap%20Antennas-LEOs.pdf
>
> 73
> Rick
> K7TEJ
>
> ---- Carlos Poinho <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > hello all
> > any one have a good idea for a omni directional antenna for the birds?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:38:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Yanko P. Yankov" <samy_b1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite antenna
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Hello Carlos,
You can try to search for a eggbeater antenna like this one
http://victrolla.homeip.net/wo5s/junkpile/432/eggbeater2.pdf
Thanks
Yanko, NX9G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Poinho" <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:00:26 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite antenna
hello all
any one have a good idea for a omni directional antenna for the birds?
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:27:43 -0700
From: "Ng, Peter" <Peter.Ng@xxxxx.xx>
To: "'saguaroastro@xxx.xxxxx <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>,
"AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxx<xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>, "cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxxx
<cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite antenna
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although it *is* direction, I agree, it's an effective antenna. I've made
one myself and it's working great! Kent's design is simple and from readily
available and inexpensive material.
73's peter ve7ngp
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of saguaroastro@xxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:17 PM
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx saguaroastro@xxx.xxxx cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite antenna
OK,
I guess I should read the whole thing. Missed the word "OMNI". Still it's a
good antenna and a quick homebrew project. Maybe something your new Sat
Group could do with students?
73
Rick
K7TEJ
---- saguaroastro@xxx.xxx wrote:
> Carlos,
>
> This is the antenna I homebrewed. Works like charm. Cost me $20.00 in
parts ($7.00 of that was shipping for the Capacitors from Mouser).
>
> http://www.wa5vjb.com/references/Cheap%20Antennas-LEOs.pdf
>
> 73
> Rick
> K7TEJ
>
> ---- Carlos Poinho <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > hello all
> > any one have a good idea for a omni directional antenna for the birds?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:58:55 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearc e <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Use of Amateur Satellite Frequencies by
Olympic andParalympic Games
Message-ID: <4F97221F.5000209@xxxx.xxx>
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On 21/04/12 04:58, George Henry wrote:
> I guess OFCOM doesn't understand that satellite downlinks like AO-27's
> and SO-50's don't respect international borders, and certainly won't
> shut down just to accommodate their foolhardy choice of frequencies...
>
>
> George, KA3HSW
Especially when you consider that it's a tiny chunk of England that is
affected. It's not going to stop me using 70cm.
If they've any sense, they'll stay out of the passband of the handful of
working 70cm downlinks, though.
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:31:47 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Gordon JC Pearc e'" <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Use of Amateur Satellite Frequencies by
Olympic andParalympic Games
Message-ID: <0C82DAB565C049688A885B69019D7478@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Yeah, that's right....one certainly wouldn't take the unselfish high road
and just let the disabled athletes have the air for 10 days or so. Playing
with your ham radio is much more important than that...
"The 2012 Summer Paralympic Games will be the fourteenth Paralympics and
will take place between 29 August and 9 September 2012. The Games will be
held in London, United Kingdom after the city was successful with its bid
for the Paralympics and Summer Olympic Games.
Even though 2012 will be London's third Olympic Games, it will be the first
Paralympic Games to be staged there, as the event was created after the last
time the city hosted in 1948. It is however the second time that the United
Kingdom hosts a Paralympic Games. The 1984 Summer Paralympics were hosted in
both Stoke Mandeville, United Kingdom and Long Island, New York, United
States. Also, the first organized athletic event for athletes with a
disability that coincided with the Olympic Games took place on the day of
the opening of the 1948 Summer Olympics in London, United Kingdom. Dr.
Ludwig Guttmann of Stoke Mandeville Hospital[1] hosted a sports competition
for British World War II veteran patients with spinal cord injuries. The
first games were called the 1948 International Wheelchair Games, and were
intended to coincide with the 1948 Olympics.[2] Dr. Guttman's aim was to
create an elite sports competition for people with disabilities that would
be equivalent to the Olympic Games.[2] The games were held again at the same
location in 1952, and Dutch veterans took part alongside the British, making
it the first international competition of its kind. These early
competitions, also known as the Stoke Mandeville Games, have been described
as the precursors of the Paralympic Games.[3"
Your attitude makes me sick
73, Ted, K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearc e
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:59 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Use of Amateur Satellite Frequencies by Olympic
andParalympic Games
On 21/04/12 04:58, George Henry wrote:
> I guess OFCOM doesn't understand that satellite downlinks like AO-27's
> and SO-50's don't respect international borders, and certainly won't
> shut down just to accommodate their foolhardy choice of frequencies...
>
>
> George, KA3HSW
Especially when you consider that it's a tiny chunk of England that is
affected. It's not going to stop me using 70cm.
If they've any sense, they'll stay out of the passband of the handful of
working 70cm downlinks, though.
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:50:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: K5OE <k5oe@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite antenna
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Yanko,
I appreciate you plugging the venerable (aka "old") Egg2 design, and while I
still consider it a really good LEO omni antenna, it is with limitations.
With today's crop of LEO satellites, none are as strong as the ones
available when I first designed and built that model--specifically UO-14 and
FO-20 as prime examples of an earlier era's "easy sats." For newbies to the
birds, especially if you are starting from scratch, Bob's (WB4APR)
suggestion to use a 1/4 wave vertical for 70 cm downlink is a good first
antenna--simple and effective.
That antenna will give you coverage at high elevations--above 30 degrees,
but that means your pass times will be short and your range is narrow (in
distance). The Egg2 was designed for exactly the opposite, max gain at low
elevations, where most people struggled to hear anything (I know I did!).
If you want to work LEO's today (what choice do you have right now?), don't
consider an omni without a good preamp (NF < 1 dB). Else, you will become
frustrated and lose interest in an exciting hobby. For the price of a good
preamp, you could consider a small beam (such as Kent's "cheap yagi" and a
TV rotor. Trust me, you'll be happier trying to work AO-27, VO-52, SO-50,
ISS, etc.
73,
Jerry, K5OE
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Original message:
Hello Carlos,
You can try to search for a eggbeater antenna like this one
http://victrolla.homeip.net/wo5s/junkpile/432/eggbeater2.pdf
Thanks
Yanko, NX9G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Poinho" <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:00:26 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite antenna
hello all
any one have a good idea for a omni directional antenna for the birds?
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:08:09 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'K5OE'" <k5oe@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite antenna
Message-ID: <6A13ACF552EF4DD1BA44E9C09223127E@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Let's not forget the Moxon turnstile....an excellent performer (sorry,
Jerry, they replaced my 'eggbeaters' !!)
http://www.qsl.net/dominiondx/images/Satellite.pdf
73, K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of K5OE
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:51 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite antenna
Yanko,
I appreciate you plugging the venerable (aka "old") Egg2 design, and while I
still consider it a really good LEO omni antenna, it is with limitations.
With today's crop of LEO satellites, none are as strong as the ones
available when I first designed and built that model--specifically UO-14 and
FO-20 as prime examples of an earlier era's "easy sats." For newbies to the
birds, especially if you are starting from scratch, Bob's (WB4APR)
suggestion to use a 1/4 wave vertical for 70 cm downlink is a good first
antenna--simple and effective.
That antenna will give you coverage at high elevations--above 30 degrees,
but that means your pass times will be short and your range is narrow (in
distance). The Egg2 was designed for exactly the opposite, max gain at low
elevations, where most people struggled to hear anything (I know I did!).
If you want to work LEO's today (what choice do you have right now?), don't
consider an omni without a good preamp (NF < 1 dB). Else, you will become
frustrated and lose interest in an exciting hobby. For the price of a good
preamp, you could consider a small beam (such as Kent's "cheap yagi" and a
TV rotor. Trust me, you'll be happier trying to work AO-27, VO-52, SO-50,
ISS, etc.
73,
Jerry, K5OE
---------------------------------------------------------------
Original message:
Hello Carlos,
You can try to search for a eggbeater antenna like this one
http://victrolla.homeip.net/wo5s/junkpile/432/eggbeater2.pdf
Thanks
Yanko, NX9G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Poinho" <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:00:26 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite antenna
hello all
any one have a good idea for a omni directional antenna for the birds?
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:41:28 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Flabob Airport ISS Contact
Message-ID: <1CDBA11C-2C7F-4268-AF06-9300B6E5CBEA@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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FROM PETER >> ... excellent work ... children are our greatest asset ...
Now THERE'S someone who "gets it!" Thank you, Peter VE7NGP!
FROM CLUELESS >> ... Too bad its happened many times before ...
Huh? "Too bad?" Let's get some facts out here.
YES - SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY ARISS contacts were completed before ours at
Flabob last week.
That is 720 groups of students learning more about their respective
countries' space programs.
That is thousands of classroom hours learning more about space and amateur
radio.
That is 720 audiences anxiously hearing - at first - no response from the
ISS. But then, upon the second
or third attempt to contact via amateur radio - a palpable "feeling of awe"
from all in attendance when an
astronaut first replies.
That is 720 audiences wildly applauding after the completion of their
contacts.
There are about three entities who can schedule radio time with the ISS: the
various space programs
involved, the various departments of defense involved, and AMATEUR RADIO via
these ARISS
contacts.
There is not a single student nor audience member nor amateur radio
volunteer who thinks anything less
of their contacts with the ISS - simple because "it has happened many times
before."
I have 211 attendees who are extremely proud to have been "Number 721" last
week.
So, to the person who wrote, " ... Too bad its happened many times before
... " - Either you are totally
unaware of how wonderful these projects are for all involved, or have never
been involved first-hand in such
a once-in-a-lifetime experience. I cannot think of any other reason one
would make such an ignorant
comment.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.iss-flabob.com
909-241-7666
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:25:45 -0500
From: John Spasojevich <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Flabob Airport ISS Contact
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People....please. Clint is simply very excited to have had a wonderful
ARISS contact. We had 700 people at a contact I was involved in some years
ago and after the applause died down most of the adults were in tears,
that's how powerfully emotional an ARISS contact can be, especially for a
poor school whose students are thought of as the next generation of broom
pushers.
As the audio "distributor" for the contacts, I have the pleasure of sending
the live audio into IRLP, Webstream and AMSAT's Echolink Conference Server
for many of those contacts regardless of time they take place. The part you
hear, the contact itself, is the capstone and in many cases just one part
of an overall program the school has embarked on to stimulate interest in
Science, Technology, Engineering and Math. As a School Advisor I've shared
in several and each one is a thrill.
ARISS won't be around forever, so the more good we can do now, the better
off we'll be down the road.
73,
John - AG9D
ARISS Team
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Clint Bradford
<clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
> FROM PETER >> ... excellent work ... children are our greatest asset ...
>
> Now THERE'S someone who "gets it!" Thank you, Peter VE7NGP!
>
> FROM CLUELESS >> ... Too bad its happened many times before ...
>
> Huh? "Too bad?" Let's get some facts out here.
>
> YES - SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY ARISS contacts were completed before ours
> at Flabob last week.
>
> That is 720 groups of students learning more about their respective
> countries' space programs.
>
> That is thousands of classroom hours learning more about space and amateur
> radio.
>
> That is 720 audiences anxiously hearing - at first - no response from the
> ISS. But then, upon the second
> or third attempt to contact via amateur radio - a palpable "feeling of
> awe" from all in attendance when an
> astronaut first replies.
>
> That is 720 audiences wildly applauding after the completion of their
> contacts.
>
> There are about three entities who can schedule radio time with the ISS:
> the various space programs
> involved, the various departments of defense involved, and AMATEUR RADIO
> via these ARISS
> contacts.
>
> There is not a single student nor audience member nor amateur radio
> volunteer who thinks anything less
> of their contacts with the ISS - simple because "it has happened many
> times before."
>
> I have 211 attendees who are extremely proud to have been "Number 721"
> last week.
>
> So, to the person who wrote, " ... Too bad its happened many times before
> ... " - Either you are totally
> unaware of how wonderful these projects are for all involved, or have
> never been involved first-hand in such
> a once-in-a-lifetime experience. I cannot think of any other reason one
> would make such an ignorant
> comment.
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> http://www.iss-flabob.com
> 909-241-7666
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:21:33 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Launch Date For SpaceX
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http://www.americaspace.org/?p=18016
http://moonandback.com/2012/04/24/nasa-approves-new-launch-date-of-may-7th-for
-spacex-dragon/
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 05:59:18 -0400
From: "Craig Gagner" <crgagner@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Re: Flabob Airport ISS Contact
Message-ID: <6FEF66F0E6EB4B6AB1159A347B01147B@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Gagner [mailto:crgagner@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:58 AM
To: 'Clint Bradford'
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: Flabob Airport ISS Contact
I made such an ignorant comment because most of us are sick of reading the
many e-mails with you patting yourself on the back.
Yes its Great that the kids are involved, and I have been involved. I just
don't need tennis elbow from patting my self on the back !
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:41 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Flabob Airport ISS Contact
FROM PETER >> ... excellent work ... children are our greatest asset ...
Now THERE'S someone who "gets it!" Thank you, Peter VE7NGP!
FROM CLUELESS >> ... Too bad its happened many times before ...
Huh? "Too bad?" Let's get some facts out here.
YES - SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY ARISS contacts were completed before ours at
Flabob last week.
That is 720 groups of students learning more about their respective
countries' space programs.
That is thousands of classroom hours learning more about space and amateur
radio.
That is 720 audiences anxiously hearing - at first - no response from the
ISS. But then, upon the second
or third attempt to contact via amateur radio - a palpable "feeling of awe"
from all in attendance when an
astronaut first replies.
That is 720 audiences wildly applauding after the completion of their
contacts.
There are about three entities who can schedule radio time with the ISS: the
various space programs
involved, the various departments of defense involved, and AMATEUR RADIO via
these ARISS
contacts.
There is not a single student nor audience member nor amateur radio
volunteer who thinks anything less
of their contacts with the ISS - simple because "it has happened many times
before."
I have 211 attendees who are extremely proud to have been "Number 721" last
week.
So, to the person who wrote, " ... Too bad its happened many times before
... " - Either you are totally
unaware of how wonderful these projects are for all involved, or have never
been involved first-hand in such
a once-in-a-lifetime experience. I cannot think of any other reason one
would make such an ignorant
comment.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.iss-flabob.com
909-241-7666
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:43:21 +0000
From: Carlos Poinho <cu3ftcarlos@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite antennas
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hello all
thanks for all the good ideas
best 73's and see you on the birds
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:32:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Dayton
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22 days till Dayton .I hope to meet alot of satellite ops there
WA4HFN Damon
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