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Today's Topics:
1. ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin (JoAnne Maenpaa)
2. Re: ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin (i8cvs)
3. Re: ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin (Rafael Valdez G.)
4. Fox fantastic (Nick Pugh)
5. Fox is a go! Please donate to make it happen (Stefan Wagener)
6. Re: ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin (Dave Guimont)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:12:07 -0600
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-041 Special Bulletin
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-041.01
ANS-041 AMSAT Fox-1 Cubesat Selected for NASA ELaNa Launch Collaboration
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 041.01
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
February 10, 2012
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-041.01
Project ELaNa, NASA's "Educational Launch of NanoSat" managed by the
Launch Services Program at the Kennedy Space Center, announced on
February 10 that the AMSAT Fox-1 cubesat has been selected to join
the program.
NASA will work with AMSAT in a collaborative agreement where NASA
will cover the integration and launch costs of satellites deemed to
have merit in support of their strategic and educational goals.
Watch for full details to be published in the AMSAT Journal.
AMSAT teamed with the ARRL to write and deliver the 159 page educa-
tional proposal to NASA. Letters documenting the importance of AMSAT's
satellites in the education programs at the ARRL and also at the Clay
Center for Science and Technology at the Dexter and Southfield schools
in Brookline, MA, were important parts of our proposal.
AMSAT President Barry Baines, WD4ASW said, "The ELaNA Launch oppor-
tunity marks AMSAT's return to space after the conclusion of the
successful ARISSat-1/KEDR flight. We need to get the flight Fox-1,
along with an operational flight backup satellite, built, integrat-
ed, tested, and delivered. Our ability to provide a spacecraft and
get it launched is dependent upon the active support of our donors
who wish to see Fox-1 fly."
AMSAT Vice-President of Engineering, Tony Monteiro, AA2TX noted this
will provide a launch opportunity for AMSAT's next generation of FM
repeater satellites with features and operation beyond the experience
of AO-51. AMSAT's Fox-1 Engineering Team is making progress developing
the advanced satellite that will provide these features:
+ Fox-1 is designed to operate in sunlight without batteries once
the battery system fails. This applies lessons learned from AO-51
and ARISSat-1 operations.
+ In case of IHU failure Fox-1 will continue to operate its FM
repeater in a basic, 'zombie sat' mode, so that the repeater
remains on-the-air.
+ Fox-1 is designed as the immediate replacement for AO-51. Its U/V
(Mode B) transponder will make it even easier to work with modest
equipment.
+ From the ground user's perspective, the same FM amateur radio
equipment used for AO-51 may be used for Fox-1.
+ Extending the design, Fox-2 will benefit from the development work
of Fox-1 by adding more sophisticated power management and Software
Defined Transponder (SDX) communications systems.
The Fox-1 Project presents an opportunity to literally put your call-
sign on the Fox hardware. AMSAT is looking for major donations to help
underwrite the cost of solar cells/panels, one of the more significant
expenses of the project.
These solar cells are needed for the flight unit as well as for the a
flight spare. As Fox-1 will have solar cells on all six sides of the
spacecraft and given the relatively small surface area available on
each side (at most 4" by 4" per side), AMSAT needs to invest in high
efficiency solar cells to gain as much power as possible to operate
the spacecraft.
Several opportunities to make your donation to keep amateur radio in
space include:
+ Return the form sent with the letter to reply with your donation
for the Fox-1 Project.
- All donations over $40 will receive a Fox pin.
- Donations of $120 or more qualify you for AMSAT President's Club
+ Call Martha at the AMSAT Office +1-888-FB AMSAT (1-888-322-6728)
+ Paypal donation widget on the main page at: http://www.amsat.org
+ Paypal donation widget for Project Fox at:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/fox/
+ You can also go to the Paypal site and send your donation to
martha@xxxxx.xxx.
+ The AMSAT Store: http://www.amsat-na.com/store/categories.php
Project Fox web site provide a good overview of the technical progress
of the new satellite: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/fox/
[ANS thanks AMSAT President Barry Baines, WD4ASW, AMSAT Vice-President
of Engineering, Tony Monteiro, AA2TX and AMSAT's Project Fox Engineering
team for the above information]
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:17:17 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
Message-ID: <003e01cce88d$3142dcc0$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:12 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
> ANS-041 Special Bulletin
>
> SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-041.01
> ANS-041 AMSAT Fox-1 Cubesat Selected for NASA ELaNa Launch Collaboration
>
> AMSAT News Service Bulletin 041.01
> From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
> February 10, 2012
> To All RADIO AMATEURS
> BID: $ANS-041.01
>
> < snip>
>
> + Return the form sent with the letter to reply with your donation
> for the Fox-1 Project.
> - All donations over $40 will receive a Fox pin.
> - Donations of $120 or more qualify you for AMSAT President's Club
I invite All to donate the maximum as possible only to AMSAT-DL for
P3E because AMSAT-NA before the launch of OSCAR-10 promised to
the Radio Amateur Community to communicate by satellite much better
than in HF.........Where actually the Amateur Satellite Service have gone ?
I pull only for AMSAT-DL and P3E because looking to the AMSAT-NA
projects for a HEO at this time, before AO40 died I invested a lot of money
in my HEO satellite station for nothing.
I trust only on P3E because the AMSAT-DL President DB2OS,Peter
Guelzow on 29 JAN 2012 writes on this AMSAT-BB the following
message:
"Indeed all money donated to the P3-E project goes into the P3-E project
and we are grateful for all those direct contributions and support in
particular from many individual AMSAT-NA members and indeed many other
hams from around the world. Due to ITAR, unfortunatly AMSAT-NA had to
stop all it's official support (including money, which hurts) for P3-E
several years ago, as you wrote.. For example, we had to re-build and
continue the IHU hardware and software development on our own resources.
The same for the original SDX development, etc. The S/C is still
sitting in our clean room in Marburg and waiting to be finalized. Having
no firm launch date yet, activities slowed down in some areas, while
other activities and groups are highly active and well alive. The
biggest problem is indeed having no firm launch date yet.. this is
frustration for everyone involved. We all put so much volunteer work and
time into it...
When I read "Forget P3-E, build an MEO" (that's how I read it first) I
was indeed very concerned.. should we really forget all the hard work,
time and money which already went into the project and scrap it??? And
what than? No - I'm not giving up...
OK, reading the second time I understood that Dave meant we should put
P3-E on VEGA and use it's propulsion to go to MEO...
Unfortunately things are not so easy.. P3-E was designed to go from GTO
into HEO. For example, all the magnetic attitude control won't work in
MEO anymore, etc.. Thus we were looking for GTO, but would it fit on
VEGA? Indeed, we could try an elliptical orbit with a much lower
apogee, but than we have to carefully study the effects of orbit
resonances which caused AO-13 to burn-up too soon. However, I do
sympathize with the idea and we thought about it in the past, but
discarded the idea for reasons I have almost forgotten now. So,
perhaps we should look again at it.. do some orbit and fuel
calculation, study orbit perturbations and orbit stability again and see
what the impact will be on the S/C design. Any volunteers for that?
As Nitin wrote, we contacted AMSAT-India to help with contacts to
ISRO, we are in contact with SpaceX and I recently had a personal
letter exchange with the CEO of Arianespace. If a launch possibility
arises, we will be on it. It is not always a matter of money, but also
a matter of compatibility to slip in. Ariane-5 for example is a real
workhorse now with standard launch configurations. Any change on that
costs them a lot of money. If there is an "unusual" configuration were
they have to ask industry for a configuration change, than it might also
be easier for us to slip in..
That simply means we have to wait for the right moment or finding new
qualification flight.. Ariane 5ME is such opportunity we are actively
working on, but this will not be before 2018.
In the last several month our work and priority was mostly focused
regarding our funding situation and to improve it. Although most people
still did not understand it, but the P5-A project is one these
opportunity we need. It is well alive and currently heavily discussed
within the highest ranks inside of our government organizations. Apart
from this, we are currently working on another project to fly an hosted
payload on a GEO satellite... A decision is not made yet, but if we get
the opportunity it will provide some neat communication capabilities.
Our previous heritage and P5 will help here too.."
73s Peter DB2OS
Hello Peter.......be sure that all of us with experience from OSCAR-10
to AO40 are pulling for P3E......go-ahead ! !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:10:31 -0700
From: "Rafael Valdez G." <rafavaldez@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: "vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat - BBs
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
Message-ID: <DUB0-P3-EAS1757A4713A6A226EBA5C3BDB790@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Go FOX ES GO P3E!!
PSE DONATE!!!
Rafael VALDEZ
XE2RV
On Feb 11, 2012, at 12:50 AM, "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:12 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
>
>> AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
>> ANS-041 Special Bulletin
>>
>> SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-041.01
>> ANS-041 AMSAT Fox-1 Cubesat Selected for NASA ELaNa Launch Collaboration
>>
>> AMSAT News Service Bulletin 041.01
>> From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
>> February 10, 2012
>> To All RADIO AMATEURS
>> BID: $ANS-041.01
>>
>> < snip>
>>
>> + Return the form sent with the letter to reply with your donation
>> for the Fox-1 Project.
>> - All donations over $40 will receive a Fox pin.
>> - Donations of $120 or more qualify you for AMSAT President's Club
>
> I invite All to donate the maximum as possible only to AMSAT-DL for
> P3E because AMSAT-NA before the launch of OSCAR-10 promised to
> the Radio Amateur Community to communicate by satellite much better
> than in HF.........Where actually the Amateur Satellite Service have gone ?
>
> I pull only for AMSAT-DL and P3E because looking to the AMSAT-NA
> projects for a HEO at this time, before AO40 died I invested a lot of money
> in my HEO satellite station for nothing.
>
> I trust only on P3E because the AMSAT-DL President DB2OS,Peter
> Guelzow on 29 JAN 2012 writes on this AMSAT-BB the following
> message:
>
> "Indeed all money donated to the P3-E project goes into the P3-E project
> and we are grateful for all those direct contributions and support in
> particular from many individual AMSAT-NA members and indeed many other
> hams from around the world. Due to ITAR, unfortunatly AMSAT-NA had to
> stop all it's official support (including money, which hurts) for P3-E
> several years ago, as you wrote.. For example, we had to re-build and
> continue the IHU hardware and software development on our own resources.
> The same for the original SDX development, etc. The S/C is still
> sitting in our clean room in Marburg and waiting to be finalized. Having
> no firm launch date yet, activities slowed down in some areas, while
> other activities and groups are highly active and well alive. The
> biggest problem is indeed having no firm launch date yet.. this is
> frustration for everyone involved. We all put so much volunteer work and
> time into it...
>
> When I read "Forget P3-E, build an MEO" (that's how I read it first) I
> was indeed very concerned.. should we really forget all the hard work,
> time and money which already went into the project and scrap it??? And
> what than? No - I'm not giving up...
>
> OK, reading the second time I understood that Dave meant we should put
> P3-E on VEGA and use it's propulsion to go to MEO...
>
> Unfortunately things are not so easy.. P3-E was designed to go from GTO
> into HEO. For example, all the magnetic attitude control won't work in
> MEO anymore, etc.. Thus we were looking for GTO, but would it fit on
> VEGA? Indeed, we could try an elliptical orbit with a much lower
> apogee, but than we have to carefully study the effects of orbit
> resonances which caused AO-13 to burn-up too soon. However, I do
> sympathize with the idea and we thought about it in the past, but
> discarded the idea for reasons I have almost forgotten now. So,
> perhaps we should look again at it.. do some orbit and fuel
> calculation, study orbit perturbations and orbit stability again and see
> what the impact will be on the S/C design. Any volunteers for that?
>
> As Nitin wrote, we contacted AMSAT-India to help with contacts to
> ISRO, we are in contact with SpaceX and I recently had a personal
> letter exchange with the CEO of Arianespace. If a launch possibility
> arises, we will be on it. It is not always a matter of money, but also
> a matter of compatibility to slip in. Ariane-5 for example is a real
> workhorse now with standard launch configurations. Any change on that
> costs them a lot of money. If there is an "unusual" configuration were
> they have to ask industry for a configuration change, than it might also
> be easier for us to slip in..
> That simply means we have to wait for the right moment or finding new
> qualification flight.. Ariane 5ME is such opportunity we are actively
> working on, but this will not be before 2018.
>
> In the last several month our work and priority was mostly focused
> regarding our funding situation and to improve it. Although most people
> still did not understand it, but the P5-A project is one these
> opportunity we need. It is well alive and currently heavily discussed
> within the highest ranks inside of our government organizations. Apart
> from this, we are currently working on another project to fly an hosted
> payload on a GEO satellite... A decision is not made yet, but if we get
> the opportunity it will provide some neat communication capabilities.
> Our previous heritage and P5 will help here too.."
>
> 73s Peter DB2OS
>
> Hello Peter.......be sure that all of us with experience from OSCAR-10
> to AO40 are pulling for P3E......go-ahead ! !
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:56:13 -0600
From: "Nick Pugh" <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox fantastic
Message-ID: <080c01cce89b$04ffce30$0eff6a90$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hats off to the FOX team for winning the NASA grant for a launch for FOX.
GO FOX
Thanks
Nick k5qxj
Office 337 593 8700
Cell 337 258 2527
Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:30:18 +0700
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox is a go! Please donate to make it happen
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHCZct3QCGaxdyysNVwDoP3aV8x9b02MitfXhK2rGKZg5Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Great announcement by NASA!
Now FOX1 is getting real and will need all of our support. Use the
AMSAT website (PayPal) to donate.
Just added my financial support. Hope many will follow. Every $ will
make a difference.
73, Stefan VE4NSA
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:49:17 -0800
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
Message-ID: <48.BF.04325.936C63F4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Yes, Dom, Peter, Jo Anne, and all the other good guys out there:
Jo Anne send me the form for the 40 dollar pin, and I'm sending $40
also to the DL website....
Come on guys, these contributions are making donations to help
educate the children of the WORLD help make better decisions about
our WORLD.....ESA is doing something about it, and if we make enough
noise perhaps we can convince our politicos in the USA to do
something with the money besides spend it on campaign posters the way
they are doing today.
Off MY soapbox, and hoping to generate a few bucks
73 and a good weekend to all
Dave in sunny San Diego
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:12 AM
>Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-041 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin
>
> > AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
> > ANS-041 Special Bulletin
> >
> > SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-041.01
> > ANS-041 AMSAT Fox-1 Cubesat Selected for NASA ELaNa Launch Collaboration
> >
> > AMSAT News Service Bulletin 041.01
> > From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
> > February 10, 2012
> > To All RADIO AMATEURS
> > BID: $ANS-041.01
> >
> > < snip>
> >
> > + Return the form sent with the letter to reply with your donation
> > for the Fox-1 Project.
> > - All donations over $40 will receive a Fox pin.
> > - Donations of $120 or more qualify you for AMSAT President's Club
>
>I invite All to donate the maximum as possible only to AMSAT-DL for
>P3E because AMSAT-NA before the launch of OSCAR-10 promised to
>the Radio Amateur Community to communicate by satellite much better
>than in HF.........Where actually the Amateur Satellite Service have gone ?
>
>I pull only for AMSAT-DL and P3E because looking to the AMSAT-NA
>projects for a HEO at this time, before AO40 died I invested a lot of money
>in my HEO satellite station for nothing.
>
>I trust only on P3E because the AMSAT-DL President DB2OS,Peter
>Guelzow on 29 JAN 2012 writes on this AMSAT-BB the following
>message:
>
>"Indeed all money donated to the P3-E project goes into the P3-E project
>and we are grateful for all those direct contributions and support in
>particular from many individual AMSAT-NA members and indeed many other
>hams from around the world. Due to ITAR, unfortunatly AMSAT-NA had to
>stop all it's official support (including money, which hurts) for P3-E
>several years ago, as you wrote.. For example, we had to re-build and
>continue the IHU hardware and software development on our own resources.
>The same for the original SDX development, etc. The S/C is still
>sitting in our clean room in Marburg and waiting to be finalized. Having
>no firm launch date yet, activities slowed down in some areas, while
>other activities and groups are highly active and well alive. The
>biggest problem is indeed having no firm launch date yet.. this is
>frustration for everyone involved. We all put so much volunteer work and
>time into it...
>
>When I read "Forget P3-E, build an MEO" (that's how I read it first) I
>was indeed very concerned.. should we really forget all the hard work,
>time and money which already went into the project and scrap it??? And
>what than? No - I'm not giving up...
>
>OK, reading the second time I understood that Dave meant we should put
>P3-E on VEGA and use it's propulsion to go to MEO...
>
>Unfortunately things are not so easy.. P3-E was designed to go from GTO
>into HEO. For example, all the magnetic attitude control won't work in
>MEO anymore, etc.. Thus we were looking for GTO, but would it fit on
>VEGA? Indeed, we could try an elliptical orbit with a much lower
>apogee, but than we have to carefully study the effects of orbit
>resonances which caused AO-13 to burn-up too soon. However, I do
>sympathize with the idea and we thought about it in the past, but
>discarded the idea for reasons I have almost forgotten now. So,
>perhaps we should look again at it.. do some orbit and fuel
>calculation, study orbit perturbations and orbit stability again and see
>what the impact will be on the S/C design. Any volunteers for that?
>
>As Nitin wrote, we contacted AMSAT-India to help with contacts to
>ISRO, we are in contact with SpaceX and I recently had a personal
>letter exchange with the CEO of Arianespace. If a launch possibility
>arises, we will be on it. It is not always a matter of money, but also
>a matter of compatibility to slip in. Ariane-5 for example is a real
>workhorse now with standard launch configurations. Any change on that
>costs them a lot of money. If there is an "unusual" configuration were
>they have to ask industry for a configuration change, than it might also
>be easier for us to slip in..
>That simply means we have to wait for the right moment or finding new
>qualification flight.. Ariane 5ME is such opportunity we are actively
>working on, but this will not be before 2018.
>
>In the last several month our work and priority was mostly focused
>regarding our funding situation and to improve it. Although most people
>still did not understand it, but the P5-A project is one these
>opportunity we need. It is well alive and currently heavily discussed
>within the highest ranks inside of our government organizations. Apart
>from this, we are currently working on another project to fly an hosted
>payload on a GEO satellite... A decision is not made yet, but if we get
>the opportunity it will provide some neat communication capabilities.
>Our previous heritage and P5 will help here too.."
>
>73s Peter DB2OS
>
>Hello Peter.......be sure that all of us with experience from OSCAR-10
>to AO40 are pulling for P3E......go-ahead ! !
>
>73" de
>
>i8CVS Domenico
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
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