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Today's Topics:

   1. All ARISSat-1 Keps (Joseph Armbruster)
   2. GPS Time observation (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
   3. FW: New version - Masat Ground station Client software
      (Nitin Muttin)
   4. Re: GPS Time observation (WA6FWF)
   5. Re: GPS Time observation (George and Cheryl Abbott)
   6. InstantTrack and windows 7 (Scott Smith)
   7. Re: GPS Time observation (jmfranke)
   8. SatPC32 rotor question (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
   9. Re: InstantTrack and windows 7 (Bruce)
  10. Re: InstantTrack and windows 7 (Alan P. Biddle)
  11. Re: SatPC32 rotor question (Mark L. Hammond)
  12. Re: GPS Time observation (Dave Guimont)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:54:50 -0500
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] All ARISSat-1 Keps
Message-ID:
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Amsateers!

I was interested in obtaining a complete set of ARISSat-1 Keps for
analysis.  I requested them from the AFSPC and received permission to
place them in the public domain.  See my blog for the complete list
here:

http://libjoe.blogspot.com/2012/02/all-arissat-1-keplerian-elements.html

Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:28:25 -0700
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] GPS Time observation
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20120202081720.00becaf0@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I have an old GPS unit, a Magellan explorist 210.  It's fairly accurate
determining position. After it has acquired about eight to ten satellites
the position error averages between 20 to 35 feet.   Now the question, the
other day I was looking at one of the information pages the unit can
display and on it, it gives the time in UTC. Just for fun I thought I would
see how close the time was to WWV.  I was surprised to see the unit was
between one to four seconds off over various tests compared to WWV.  IS
this typical of all GPS units or do some display the time of day more
accurately?

KB7ADL



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:24:58 +0530 (IST)
From: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Amsat India <amsatindia@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: New version - Masat Ground station Client
software
Message-ID:
<1328198098.97210.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

All,

FYI , New version of the telemetry decoding application for MASAT-1 is
available at?http://cubesat.bme.hu/en/foldi-allomas/kliens-szoftver/

73
Nitin [VU3TYG]

From: zemei88@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:zemei88@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Tibor Mezei
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:03 AM
To: Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]
Subject: Re: Masat Ground station Client software
?
Dear Nitin,
?
the newest version of the MASAT-1 client software is
available
on our website:
http://cubesat.bme.hu/en/foldi-allomas/kliens-szoftver/
?
Regards,
Tibor Mezei
?
2012/1/31 Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG] <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
> Thanks Tibor for the update.
> --
> Regards
>?
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
> Secretary, AMSAT India
> vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> www.amsatindia.org
>?
>?
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Tibor Mezei <mezei@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
> To: vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
<vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: Re: Masat Ground station Client software
> Date: 29/01/12 22:53
>?
>> Hello,thank you for your interest. The disabled
functions are used by our
> own ground station.They are not necessary for the
reception of MASAT-1.The
> recommended sample rates are the multiples of baud
rate (like 43750 Hz).
>> The baud rate is 625, which can be found at our
website:
>
http://cubesat.bme.hu/en/foldi-allomas/radioamatoroknek/There will be a new
> version of the MASAT-1's Ground Station
Client Software this week.
>> The update is recommended, since it will contain
a number of improvements
> and fixes.If you find any problem with it please
send me a report.Best
> regards,Tibor Mezei2012/1/29 Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:09:56 -0800
From: WA6FWF <wa6fwf@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: GPS Time observation
Message-ID: <4F2AB554.3040501@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Check out    http://gpsinformation.net/main/gpstime.htm

  The short answer is, the internal GPS clock for position is very
accurate or it could not make to calculations needed  as to where you
are at, but there are many factors
that might delay what time it gives to you on a display panel or through
a serial cable.

   73
Kevin WA6FWF


On 2/2/2012 7:28 AM, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
>
> I have an old GPS unit, a Magellan explorist 210.  It's fairly
> accurate determining position. After it has acquired about eight to
> ten satellites the position error averages between 20 to 35 feet.
> Now the question, the other day I was looking at one of the
> information pages the unit can display and on it, it gives the time in
> UTC. Just for fun I thought I would see how close the time was to
> WWV.  I was surprised to see the unit was between one to four seconds
> off over various tests compared to WWV.  IS this typical of all GPS
> units or do some display the time of day more accurately?
>
> KB7ADL
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:57:45 -0500
From: "George and Cheryl Abbott" <ka1ajf@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: GPS Time observation
Message-ID: <7FC95BFE238C4EA1A60DC0CD9E3E0E2C@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

I'm not sure about GPS,but I have noticed that the clock on our cable box is
off by up to 4 seconds at times.Customer service was not aware or concerned
when I let them know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:28 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] GPS Time observation


I have an old GPS unit, a Magellan explorist 210.  It's fairly accurate
determining position. After it has acquired about eight to ten satellites
the position error averages between 20 to 35 feet.   Now the question, the
other day I was looking at one of the information pages the unit can
display and on it, it gives the time in UTC. Just for fun I thought I would
see how close the time was to WWV.  I was surprised to see the unit was
between one to four seconds off over various tests compared to WWV.  IS
this typical of all GPS units or do some display the time of day more
accurately?

KB7ADL

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:10:49 -0700
From: "Scott Smith" <ve6itv@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack and windows 7
Message-ID: <FD22575AEBD54ACFB98AF553DDD5776F@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi folks, just updated one of my computers to windows 7. Does InstantTrack
work with this version of windows?. Have no problem on my other computers
using windows XP. Any help appreciated .
73 de VE6ITV Scott

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:20:41 -0500
From: "jmfranke" <jmfranke@xxx.xxx>
To: "George and Cheryl Abbott" <ka1ajf@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
"Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: GPS Time observation
Message-ID: <B752C56C5C834AD3A4B7F7F0BE53D895@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

You will find that most handheld GPS receivers sold for casual use have a
displayed time error that varies from 0 to 4 seconds. The receiver software
was designed with an emphasis on computing position and performing other
tasks, such as routing, more than on displaying time. Hence the presentation
of time is some times delayed. If time is of higher importance, then a
specialized GPS timing receiver is needed. Look for one that outputs a 1PPS
(one pulse per second) signal and comes with timing software.

John WA4WDL

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From: "George and Cheryl Abbott" <ka1ajf@xxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:57 AM
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: GPS Time observation

> I'm not sure about GPS,but I have noticed that the clock on our cable box
> is off by up to 4 seconds at times.Customer service was not aware or
> concerned when I let them know.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:28 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] GPS Time observation
>
>
> I have an old GPS unit, a Magellan explorist 210.  It's fairly accurate
> determining position. After it has acquired about eight to ten satellites
> the position error averages between 20 to 35 feet.   Now the question, the
> other day I was looking at one of the information pages the unit can
> display and on it, it gives the time in UTC. Just for fun I thought I
> would
> see how close the time was to WWV.  I was surprised to see the unit was
> between one to four seconds off over various tests compared to WWV.  IS
> this typical of all GPS units or do some display the time of day more
> accurately?
>
> KB7ADL
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:36:03 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 rotor question
Message-ID:
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I had this question posted to me, and I can't seem to figure out if it is
possible.


>.I want my rotator to stop at about 85 Deg elevation and not go to 90 ,
100 , 110 etc etc but to rotate on its asmith by >180 deg and then start to
drop elevation from 85 Deg..

 I know that the rotor interface unit, ERC can be limited via it's service
tool software, but I wasn't sure how SatPC32 would react to the interface
unit limiting it.

Dave - KB1PVH


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:39:43 -0600
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Scott Smith <ve6itv@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: InstantTrack and windows 7
Message-ID: <4F2ACA5F.9090302@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

yes, download a program called dosbox. you can then run the old dos
programs.
http://www.dosbox.com/

73...bruce

On 2/2/2012 11:10 AM, Scott Smith wrote:
> Hi folks, just updated one of my computers to windows 7. Does InstantTrack
work with this version of windows?. Have no problem on my other computers
using windows XP. Any help appreciated .
> 73 de VE6ITV Scott
> _______________________________________________
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>


--

Bruce Paige, KK5DO

AMSAT Director Contests and Awards

ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE

Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0200z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes

Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org

AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:42:25 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Scott Smith'" <ve6itv@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: InstantTrack and windows 7
Message-ID: <6D2AAD6E12ED48FFBE247DE497E452C3@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Scott,

No problem, unless you want to run it in full screen or graphics mode.  WIN7
does not fully support DOS programs in full screen mode.  However, there are
a couple of ways around that.  You can run it in a virtual XP machine.  I
have WIN7 Pro, and it is a free download.

However, there is a simpler method.  There is a program called DOSBox which
is intended to run really old legacy games.  It works perfectly with ITrack,
and makes a much smaller footprint on your machine.

http://www.dosbox.com/

Even though I have the virtual XP machine, I prefer to use the DOSbox
version.  With a little obvious tweaking of the configuration, it will come
up as before.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA





-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Scott Smith
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:11 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] InstantTrack and windows 7

Hi folks, just updated one of my computers to windows 7. Does InstantTrack
work with this version of windows?. Have no problem on my other computers
using windows XP. Any help appreciated .
73 de VE6ITV Scott
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:54:03 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 rotor question
Message-ID:
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I'll take a shot at this:

You can, by SatPC32 settings, limit the movement to 90 deg elevation.
That will prevent what many of us call "180 flip mode" or some
variant.

Now to limit to 85 deg??  I bet if you use a setting of either time
interval (increase it...) or Position change (increase it) you'll end
skipping most of the 85-90 operations, most of the time...   Is it
absolute? Probably not.

Now, if the controller is configured to only go to 85 deg, I suspect
it would ignore any values above 85...so just rely on the
hardware/controller and not SatPC32.


Best I can offer up...

73,

Mark N8MH

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I had this question posted to me, and I can't seem to figure out if it is
> possible.
>
>
>>.I want my rotator to stop at about 85 Deg elevation and not go to 90 ,
> 100 , 110 etc etc but to rotate on its asmith by >180 deg and then start to
> drop elevation from 85 Deg..
>
> ?I know that the rotor interface unit, ERC can be limited via it's service
> tool software, but I wasn't sure how SatPC32 would react to the interface
> unit limiting it.
>
> Dave - KB1PVH
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]



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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:28:32 -0800
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: GPS Time observation
Message-ID: <82.80.15128.2D5DA2F4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Interesting question, Vince...am sure someone on here will be able to
answer it. I know at one time the civilian population was restricted
from the most accurate location, and as I also remember the military
accuracy was within a centimeter if several observations were
taken...Nice to see your smiling face on here, my friend...

Anyone?

73 Dave

>I have an old GPS unit, a Magellan explorist 210. It's fairly
>accurate determining position. After it has acquired about eight to
>ten satellites the position error averages between 20 to 35
>feet.  Now the question, the other day I was looking at one of the
>information pages the unit can display and on it, it gives the time
>in UTC. Just for fun I thought I would see how close the time was to
>WWV. I was surprised to see the unit was between one to four seconds
>off over various tests compared to WWV. IS this typical of all GPS
>units or do some display the time of day more accurately?
>
>KB7ADL
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



            73, Dave, WB6LLO
                dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx

                    Disagree: I learn....

               Pulling for P3E...

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