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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Full Duplex, Pre-amplifiers, LIDs, and Know-it-all's (Ted)
   2. looking for DE and WV (davekn4ok@xxx.xxxx
   3. AO-27 at 2122 UTC (Bryan Herbert)
   4. Re: AO-27 at 2122 UTC (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
   5. More satellite videos.... (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   6. Re: Quadrifilar Helix antenna question (normn3ykf@xxxx.xx.xxxx
   7. Re: AO-27 at 2122 UTC (Rick - WA4NVM)
   8. ARISSat-1 voice messages (Mineo Wakita)
   9. Titan's Dunes (B J)
  10. e-mail address for CHIBIS-M (RS-39) reports (Mike Rupprecht)
  11. spaceweather.com (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
  12. Re: spaceweather.com (Chris Maness)
  13. Re: spaceweather.com (Mike Rupprecht)
  14. HI4/AJ5C update for Jan 23rd. (Bob Herrell)
  15. Re: spaceweather.com (Andrew Glasbrenner)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:20:48 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Clayton Coleman W5PFG'" <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>,	"'AMSAT'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Full Duplex, Pre-amplifiers, LIDs, and
Know-it-all's
Message-ID: <EB8EFECE0B0541AB8377AC8B56C920A6@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Well said..

But, 'know it all's' here on the AMSAT board?....nah...never happen

TK, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clayton Coleman W5PFG
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:45 PM
To: AMSAT
Subject: [amsat-bb] Full Duplex, Pre-amplifiers, LIDs, and Know-it-all's

Having a computer controlled, full duplex station with azimuth and
elevation rotation, receiver pre-amplifiers, and high gain antennas is
nice.

Being able to point your small yagi antenna at the sky and work an FM
transponder anywhere in the world with a HT is nice.

Both scenarios require a common element for success: the operator's skill.

Rather than attack others' ideas of a "perfect satellite station," why
not try to support each other in becoming better operators?

Having the right equipment is truly important.  Having the right
skills to operate, in my opinion, is much more important.  It is
doubtful that everyone on this mailing list will ever agree what
comprises "the ultimate satellite station."  While some favor
flexibility of portable operation, others may strictly utilize the
highest gain antennas available.

Next time you hear some bad operating practices, consider writing a
kind note to the offending station.  Be considerate that the station
may be unaware of their satellite faux-pas.  Perhaps they are new and
have had little guidance from an Elmer.  Take the opportunity to
welcome the station and introduce them to the "right way" of doing
things even if they are not using your favorite radio or antenna.
Good ham radio operating skills are not typically an inherent quality
of man -- it takes time to develop them.  At some point in history,
you made your first contact.

73
Clayton
W5PFG
Still learning 20 years after receiving my novice class license.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:01:54 -0500 (EST)
From: davekn4ok@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] looking for DE and WV
Message-ID: <8CEA76034877881-11D8-16F61@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Looking for DE and WV on the birds for WAS.  Please reply by email.

Thanks,

Dave, kn4ok


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:42:08 -0800
From: Bryan Herbert <ke6zgp@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 at 2122 UTC
Message-ID: <4F1C82B0.90002@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

My phone rebooted during the pass so I lost the audio recording. I'm
pretty sure the station I QSOed with was N0JA but I cant recall the grid
square (DN?)

If anyone has audio they can send or if the operator I QSOed with could
contact me it would be greatly appreciated.

--
Bryan Herbert - KE6ZGP
Newhall, CA. DM04RJ USA
http://bryanherbert.com
http://twitter.com/ke6zgp



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:54:45 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Bryan Herbert <ke6zgp@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 at 2122 UTC
Message-ID:
<CAEMY9FdRAq97jsgKsAt-txEJkp1O-SZ36nqS69MXmjoH31wuwQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

It probably was N0JE in DN86

Dave - KB1PVH

Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X
On Jan 22, 2012 4:50 PM, "Bryan Herbert" <ke6zgp@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:04:11 -0800 (PST)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] More satellite videos....
Message-ID:
<1327280651.66648.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi!

After the positive reaction to the videos I posted to YouTube yesterday,
I added three more from passes I worked today.  The first video was from
the 1527 UTC VO-52 pass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K10RiIEyjfE

Then the 1936 UTC AO-27 pass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0IdEPsajkU

I then tried FO-29's 2043 UTC pass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP80fVF9Lek

I used the same equipment on today's VO-52 and AO-27 passes as I used
yesterday.  For the FO-29 pass, I swapped out the TH-F6A and used my
second FT-817ND with its better receiver for the weaker downlink.  The
antenna on all of these passes was the same Elk handheld 2m/70cm log
periodic I normally use.  Videos were recorded with a Sony DSC-H70
camera which makes 720p videos.

If you want to have an idea of how much adjusting I do to the VFOs on
my radios, just watch closely when I reach for the radios on the table
(or whatever other location I have them set up in my other videos).  I
always set my transmitting radio on the left, and the receiver on the
right.  This has let me get to the point where working SSB/CW satellites
with a portable two-radio setup has become essentially automatic,
wherever I happen to be operating, over the past 3+ years - determine
which way is North, set up my gear, and start making QSOs.

Even with being comfortable with my current portable setup, I'm always
looking to experiment.  I've been using different radios for the SSB/CW
downlinks, and I know I should get a tripod to hold my antenna.  I also
want to get around to trying SatPC32 with my two FT-817NDs, since I
have the software and the cables to connect both radios to my netbook.
Then there's more operating from wherever I happen to go.  More for the
satellite to-do list...  :-)

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/




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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:03:45 -0500
From: <normn3ykf@xxxx.xx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>,
William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Quadrifilar Helix antenna question
Message-ID: <20120123020345.HG3FO.164347.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Gentelmen:
Thank you for your input. I've measured 2.4:1 at it's intended design
frequency, using a half wave stub.
The antenna is essentially two loops (one capacitive and one inductive) in
parallel, giving an intended 50 Ohm resistive impedance at resonance. I'm
measuring 25 Ohms and a bit inductive. Do have more data if anyone is
interested. (smith chart, return loss)
Tomorrow I'll build both versions, lhcp and rhcp. Tonight's live demo on
so50 shows promise, though I'll need two and have to switch polarity.
73 de Norm n3ykf


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:14:09 -0600
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Bryan Herbert" <ke6zgp@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 at 2122 UTC
Message-ID: <AEC665340EB14E48818738A7439B2455@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

Hi Bryan,

As Dave, KB1PVH replied, it was N0JE in DN86 you worked.  I listened
to my recording and you worked him at 2122z today.

73,

Rick WA4NVM

> My phone rebooted during the pass so I lost the audio recording. I'm
> pretty sure the station I QSOed with was N0JA but I cant recall the grid
> square (DN?)
>
> If anyone has audio they can send or if the operator I QSOed with could
> contact me it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> --
> Bryan Herbert - KE6ZGP
> Newhall, CA. DM04RJ USA
> http://bryanherbert.com
> http://twitter.com/ke6zgp
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:21:37 +0900
From: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 voice messages
Message-ID: <E2580B7A07C54B45A845E69515937C7A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp";
reply-type=original

All audio files of the message by children of all the countries of
the world sent to by ARISSat-1 and the translated sentence were
uploaded in SatBlog of the DK3WN station. I can guess that it would
be hard to collect these messages. This is a laborious work.

Please hear all once. A password appears in the last of the message of
each country, but already I thinks this to be statute of limitations.
http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=25476

JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:21:31 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Titan's Dunes
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkO5H-3UcaA+xESmAXqTm6BPCPcTR9sL_QJgdTBjqT-+qw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2012-021&cid=release_2012-021
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=49878
http://www.onorbit.com/node/4274

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:01:24 +0100
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] e-mail address for CHIBIS-M (RS-39) reports
Message-ID: <002601ccd9f9$059bc340$10d349c0$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

They issued the special e-mail address for the CHIBIS-M project to collect
all messages from amateurs:



amateur-rs39@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx



73, Mike

DK3WN





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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:34:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] spaceweather.com
Message-ID:
<1931992495.609272.1327343659550.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxx
xxxx.xxx>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

RADIATION STORM IN PROGRESS: Solar protons accelerated by this morning's
M9-class solar flare are streaming past Earth. On the NOAA scale of
radiation storms, this one ranks S3, which means it could, e.g., cause
isolated reboots of computers onboard Earth-orbiting satellites and
interfere with polar radio communications. An example of satellite effects:
The "snow" in this SOHO coronagraph movie is caused by protons hitting the
observatory's onboard camera


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:06:43 -0800
From: Chris Maness <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: spaceweather.com
Message-ID:
<CANnsUMFocaNp5oa3zuJQNogifM9R+tFYfM07iBgX3RXiJWS3fQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Commercial AM radio was acting strange this morning.  A station that I
only receive at night time (DX) was covering a daytime station that I
don't usually have an issue with.  That was backwards to what I
thought would happen during a solar event.

Chris KQ6UP

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:34 AM,  <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> RADIATION STORM IN PROGRESS: Solar protons accelerated by this morning's
M9-class solar flare are streaming past Earth. On the NOAA scale of
radiation storms, this one ranks S3, which means it could, e.g., cause
isolated reboots of computers onboard Earth-orbiting satellites and
interfere with polar radio communications. An example of satellite effects:
The "snow" in this SOHO coronagraph movie is caused by protons hitting the
observatory's onboard camera
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:13:08 +0100
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: "'AMSAT'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: spaceweather.com
Message-ID: <003401ccda03$0b26f000$2174d000$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

This is the strongest proton event in about 7 years.

73 Mike
DK3WN

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Im
Auftrag von wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Januar 2012 19:34
An: AMSAT
Betreff: [amsat-bb] spaceweather.com

RADIATION STORM IN PROGRESS: Solar protons accelerated by this morning's
M9-class solar flare are streaming past Earth. On the NOAA scale of
radiation storms, this one ranks S3, which means it could, e.g., cause
isolated reboots of computers onboard Earth-orbiting satellites and
interfere with polar radio communications. An example of satellite effects:
The "snow" in this SOHO coronagraph movie is caused by protons hitting the
observatory's onboard camera
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:45:52 -0400
From: Bob Herrell <bob72601@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] HI4/AJ5C update for Jan 23rd.
Message-ID:
<CAMQtZ2Qa2nhQr4C-mG68zn32Z2MTXJsPUJHiuJ7UK1EF-O5P=w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Good contacts AO-27 1907z de HI4/AJ5C: XE1AO, N5AFV, KF5LOQ, KB1PVH, K8JMH,
WC7V, WA8SME, K6YK and K8YSE. Tnx all. 73 Bob


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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:52:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Mike Rupprecht <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>, "'AMSAT'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: spaceweather.com
Message-ID:
<15767150.1327348370485.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8



>This is the strongest proton event in about 7 years.

"There's something very important I forgot to tell you! Don't cross the
streams? It would be bad? Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping
instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of
light."

73, Drew KO4MA






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