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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Probably a silly idea... (G0MRF@xxx.xxxx
   2.  Space Debris (Joe Leikhim)
   3. Re: Probably a silly idea... (Stefan Wagener)
   4. HVSatcomGroupNet tonightJan19@xxx  Eastern on N2EYH-L
      (cotejaune2@xxx.xxxx
   5. Re: Probably a silly idea... (Trevor .)
   6. AMSAT- Journal (Losted article "Modification of a CDE
      Tailtwister Control Unit for Satellite Automatic Tracking" by
      i8CVS (i8cvs)
   7. Re: Linear birds with an IC-706MkIIG (K5OE)
   8. AMSAT- Journal (Losted article "Modification of a
      CDETailtwister Control Unit for Satellite Automatic Tracking"	by
      i8CVS (i8cvs)
   9. Re: Man on a Mission (aj9n)
  10. Fw: AMSAT- Journal (Losted article "Modification of	a
      CDETailtwister Control Unit for Satellite Automatic	Tracking"	by
      i8CVS (i8cvs)
  11. getting "cheep" on the birds! (Pun intended) (K4FEG)
  12. ALERT (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
  13. Student CubeSat Aalto-1 (Trevor .)
  14. Re: Linear birds with an IC-706MkIIG (Thomas Doyle)
  15. Hamtronics receive converters (John Geiger)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:36:12 -0500 (EST)
From: G0MRF@xxx.xxx
To: kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
Message-ID: <21f84.1c6ca1fe.3c49d8bc@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Hi Ed / Dave / Group.

It seems a very long time ago now, but in the dim and distant pass ESA
approved a plan to have a permanent amateur station installed inside the
European Columbus module.

As a European (Well, on a little island over here) I'm almost embarrassed
to mention this because having spent a lot of contributors money...and a lot
of  ESA's money on some very nice antennas, the organisers of this project
seem to  have gone into hibernation.

Occasionally, you hear rumours of plans and rumours of rumours but the
reality probably is that they don't have the ability to do the job. - I always
think of the scene from Life of Brian where small ineffective groups sit
around plotting the overthrow of the Romans and just have endless  meetings.

Sad.

Very sad.


David  G0MRF


In a message dated 18/01/2012 21:04:43 GMT Standard Time,
kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx writes:

AS I  understand there are four antennas on the ISS available for ham
use.   So why does a package have to go outside?  It can be installed
inside, use ISS power, be turned on/off by astronauts at will or even
unplugged?  No batteries, no rocket propulsion, dangerous chemicals,
no space-rated enclosure, no EVA.

Last time I propose this I was  told to shut my mouth and go away.

73, Ed - KL7UW

At 08:02 AM  1/18/2012, Trevor . wrote:
>PCSAT-2 did exactly that on the ISS in July  2005, however, it was
>returned to Earth Sep 2006.
>
>It  requires an expensive EVA to install and there may be frequency
>coordination issues with the two amateur radio stations already on the
ISS.
>
>I wonder what the capabilities of the Kibo Robot Arm are ?  I believe
>it can attach payloads to the exterior Exposed Facility (EF)  with
>the need for an EVA.
>
>73 Trevor  M5AKA
>
>--- On Wed, 18/1/12, Raidel Abreu Espinet  <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>
> > From: Raidel Abreu  Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably  a silly idea...
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Date:  Wednesday, 18 January, 2012, 16:06
> > Hi all,
> >
>  > This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
> >
> >  ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life.
> > The  ISS instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know
> > how  difficult is to install inside it new radios and
> > antennas for  cross-repeaters, but how difficult is really to
> > take a small box  and firmly attach it to some low risk part
> > of the ISS, the  satellite-box will use its own power solar
> > cells and antennas and  the ISS is just the carrier.
> >
> > It may be something  silly but probably not difficult, if
> > the astronauts made a "hand  launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why
> > can not them just hold it with  latches in a low risk part of
> > the ISS. Of course if a battery is  a risk we can just design
> > a simple system capable of work only in  sun light.
> >
> > If you think this is a bad idea, just  ignore it, if not,
> > well who knows, may be some day an astronaut  attach an small
> > satellite in the ISS side....
>  >
> > 73,
> > Raydel,
> > CM2ESP
> >  Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo
> >  electronico que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de
> > Cuba  a sus miembros para respaldar el cumplimiento de los
> > objetivos de  la organizacion y su politica informativa. La
> > persona que envia  este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
> > servicio a tales fines  y cumplir con las regulaciones
> > establecidas.
> >  _______________________________________________
> > Sent via  AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
> > Opinions expressed are those of the  author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the  amateur
> > satellite program!
> > Subscription settings:  http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>  >
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent  via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not  an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>Subscription settings:  http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


73, Ed - KL7UW,  WD2XSH/45
======================================
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EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT,  1296-?, 3400-?
DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
Coming Soon -  "Kits made by  KL7UW"
======================================
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:06:42 -0500
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Space Debris
Message-ID: <4F1885E2.2010802@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I think the US itself declined to adhere to this for the latest DOD
global communications satellite. That being said, the FCC has requirements.

--
Joe Leikhim

Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida

www.Leikhim.com

JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx

407-982-0446

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certain GMail traffic. Please phone me if you believe your message was not
received.



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:15:47 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: G0MRF@xxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHBJ7Hj0kuAfbSm2PsheLksAjftn577H8YfyrOqE_v6pSQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Thanks David,

The latest I heard was that AMSAT-Italy was working on a transponder
and the HamTV for Columbus. Maybe someone can get in touch with Gaston
Bertels, ON4WF (ARISS Europe) or whoever runs AMSAT-It and see what
the status is.

73, Stefan VE4NSA

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:36 PM,  <G0MRF@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Ed / Dave / Group.
>
> It seems a very long time ago now, but in the dim and distant pass ESA
> approved a plan to have a permanent amateur station installed inside the
> European Columbus module.
>
> As a European (Well, on a little island over here) I'm almost embarrassed
> to mention this because having spent a lot of contributors money...and a lot
> of ?ESA's money on some very nice antennas, the organisers of this project
> seem to ?have gone into hibernation.
>
> Occasionally, you hear rumours of plans and rumours of rumours but the
> reality probably is that they don't have the ability to do the job. - I
always
> think of the scene from Life of Brian where small ineffective groups sit
> around plotting the overthrow of the Romans and just have endless ?meetings.
>
> Sad.
>
> Very sad.
>
>
> David ?G0MRF
>
>
> In a message dated 18/01/2012 21:04:43 GMT Standard Time,
> kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx writes:
>
> AS I ?understand there are four antennas on the ISS available for ham
> use. ? So why does a package have to go outside? ?It can be installed
> inside, use ISS power, be turned on/off by astronauts at will or even
> unplugged? ?No batteries, no rocket propulsion, dangerous chemicals,
> no space-rated enclosure, no EVA.
>
> Last time I propose this I was ?told to shut my mouth and go away.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>
> At 08:02 AM ?1/18/2012, Trevor . wrote:
>>PCSAT-2 did exactly that on the ISS in July ?2005, however, it was
>>returned to Earth Sep 2006.
>>
>>It ?requires an expensive EVA to install and there may be frequency
>>coordination issues with the two amateur radio stations already on the
> ISS.
>>
>>I wonder what the capabilities of the Kibo Robot Arm are ? ?I believe
>>it can attach payloads to the exterior Exposed Facility (EF) ?with
>>the need for an EVA.
>>
>>73 Trevor ?M5AKA
>>
>>--- On Wed, 18/1/12, Raidel Abreu Espinet ?<cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Raidel Abreu ?Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably ?a silly idea...
>> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> > Date: ?Wednesday, 18 January, 2012, 16:06
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> ?> This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
>> >
>> > ?ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life.
>> > The ?ISS instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know
>> > how ?difficult is to install inside it new radios and
>> > antennas for ?cross-repeaters, but how difficult is really to
>> > take a small box ?and firmly attach it to some low risk part
>> > of the ISS, the ?satellite-box will use its own power solar
>> > cells and antennas and ?the ISS is just the carrier.
>> >
>> > It may be something ?silly but probably not difficult, if
>> > the astronauts made a "hand ?launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why
>> > can not them just hold it with ?latches in a low risk part of
>> > the ISS. Of course if a battery is ?a risk we can just design
>> > a simple system capable of work only in ?sun light.
>> >
>> > If you think this is a bad idea, just ?ignore it, if not,
>> > well who knows, may be some day an astronaut ?attach an small
>> > satellite in the ISS side....
>> ?>
>> > 73,
>> > Raydel,
>> > CM2ESP
>> > ?Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo
>> > ?electronico que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de
>> > Cuba ?a sus miembros para respaldar el cumplimiento de los
>> > objetivos de ?la organizacion y su politica informativa. La
>> > persona que envia ?este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
>> > servicio a tales fines ?y cumplir con las regulaciones
>> > establecidas.
>> > ?_______________________________________________
>> > Sent via ?AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
>> > Opinions expressed are those of the ?author.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the ?amateur
>> > satellite program!
>> > Subscription settings: ?http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> ?>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Sent ?via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>>Not ?an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
>>Subscription settings: ?http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW, ?WD2XSH/45
> ======================================
> BP40IQ ? 500 ?KHz - 10-GHz ? www.kl7uw.com
> EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, ?1296-?, 3400-?
> DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
> Coming Soon - ?"Kits made by ?KL7UW"
> ======================================
> _______________________________________________
> Sent ?via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an ?AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite ?program!
> Subscription settings: ?http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:20:49 -0500 (EST)
From: cotejaune2@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] HVSatcomGroupNet tonightJan19@xxx  Eastern on
N2EYH-L
Message-ID: <8CEA5075972CEF6-EB4-5012@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello all. Please join us for the Net tonight @ 8 PM Eastern  Jan 19 on
Echolink N2EYH-L and MtBeacon repeater 146.970 pl100.Hope to hear there.73
Garywa2aqh/Tomkc2dtq

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:34:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
Message-ID:
<1327008861.47837.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

David, there is a packet radio station operating on 437.550 MHz in the
Columbus module, see

UHF Station on ISS Columbus module
http://www.uk.amsat.org/2472

Also the following from the AMSAT News Sevice (ANS) a couple of week ago:

+ Hardware proposal regarding the installation of a new Kenwood
  D710 radio in the Columbus module.

+ Hardware proposal for new power supply for ISS-Ham operations
  in the Columbus module.

+ Ongoing work with ARISS-Europe, AMSAT-Italy, ESA, and Kayser-Italia
  for implementation of the HAMTV - Digital ATV with S-band downlink
  from the Columbus Module. S-band ATV equipment would be required at
  schools for use in video ARISS contacts.

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Thu, 19/1/12, G0MRF@xxx.xxx <G0MRF@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> From: G0MRF@xxx.xxx <G0MRF@xxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
> To: kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thursday, 19 January, 2012, 20:36
> Hi Ed / Dave / Group.
>
> It seems a very long time ago now, but in the dim and
> distant pass ESA?
> approved a plan to have a permanent amateur station
> installed inside the?
> European Columbus module.
>
> As a European (Well, on a little island over here) I'm
> almost embarrassed?
> to mention this because having spent a lot of contributors
> money...and a lot
> of? ESA's money on some very nice antennas, the
> organisers of this project
> seem to? have gone into hibernation.
>
> Occasionally, you hear rumours of plans and rumours of
> rumours but the?
> reality probably is that they don't have the ability to do
> the job. - I always?
> think of the scene from Life of Brian where small
> ineffective groups sit?
> around plotting the overthrow of the Romans and just have
> endless? meetings.
>
> Sad.???
>
> Very sad.
>
>
> David? G0MRF
>
>
> In a message dated 18/01/2012 21:04:43 GMT Standard
> Time,?
> kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> writes:
>
> AS I? understand there are four antennas on the ISS
> available for ham
> use.???So why does a package have to go
> outside?? It can be installed?
> inside, use ISS power, be turned on/off by astronauts at
> will or even?
> unplugged?? No batteries, no rocket propulsion,
> dangerous chemicals,?
> no space-rated enclosure, no EVA.
>
> Last time I propose this I was? told to shut my mouth
> and go away.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>
> At 08:02 AM? 1/18/2012, Trevor . wrote:
> >PCSAT-2 did exactly that on the ISS in July? 2005,
> however, it was
> >returned to Earth Sep 2006.
> >
> >It? requires an expensive EVA to install and there
> may be frequency?
> >coordination issues with the two amateur radio stations
> already on the?
> ISS.
> >
> >I wonder what the capabilities of the Kibo Robot Arm
> are ?? I believe
> >it can attach payloads to the exterior Exposed Facility
> (EF)? with
> >the need for an EVA.
> >
> >73 Trevor? M5AKA
> >
> >--- On Wed, 18/1/12, Raidel Abreu Espinet? <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Raidel Abreu? Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably? a silly
> idea...
> > > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > > Date:? Wednesday, 18 January, 2012, 16:06
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> >? > This is probably a silly idea but who
> knows....
> > >
> > >? ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but
> with a short life.
> > > The? ISS instead is a wonderfull platform,
> of course I know
> > > how? difficult is to install inside it new
> radios and
> > > antennas for? cross-repeaters, but how
> difficult is really to
> > > take a small box? and firmly attach it to
> some low risk part
> > > of the ISS, the? satellite-box will use its
> own power solar
> > > cells and antennas and? the ISS is just the
> carrier.
> > >
> > > It may be something? silly but probably not
> difficult, if
> > > the astronauts made a "hand? launch" with
> ARISSat-1/KEDR why
> > > can not them just hold it with? latches in a
> low risk part of
> > > the ISS. Of course if a battery is? a risk
> we can just design
> > > a simple system capable of work only in? sun
> light.
> > >
> > > If you think this is a bad idea, just?
> ignore it, if not,
> > > well who knows, may be some day an
> astronaut? attach an small
> > > satellite in the ISS side....
> >? >
> > > 73,
> > > Raydel,
> > > CM2ESP
> > >? Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el
> servicio de correo
> > >? electronico que ofrece la Federacion de
> Radioaficionados de
> > > Cuba? a sus miembros para respaldar el
> cumplimiento de los
> > > objetivos de? la organizacion y su politica
> informativa. La
> > > persona que envia? este correo asume el
> compromiso de usar el
> > > servicio a tales fines? y cumplir con las
> regulaciones
> > > establecidas.
> > >?
> _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via? AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
> > > Opinions expressed are those of the?
> author.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support
> the? amateur
> > > satellite program!
> > > Subscription settings:? http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >? >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Sent? via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
> Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> >Not? an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the
> amateur satellite?
> program!
> >Subscription settings:? http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW,? WD2XSH/45
> ======================================
> BP40IQ???500? KHz -
> 10-GHz???www.kl7uw.com
> EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT,? 1296-?, 3400-?
> DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
> Coming Soon -? "Kits made by? KL7UW"
> ======================================
> _______________________________________________
> Sent? via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
> Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an? AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the
> amateur satellite? program!
> Subscription settings:? http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
> Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
> satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:19:40 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT- Journal (Losted article "Modification of a
CDE	Tailtwister Control Unit for Satellite Automatic Tracking" by
i8CVS
Message-ID: <005301ccd700$d2184700$0401a8c0@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Ed Long ,WA4SWJ

Unfortunately all my messages to you  sent to wa4swj@xxxxxxx.xxx
were rejected to me several time with about 1 MB of attachements so
that I hope you read this letter sent to you via AMSA-BB

This is the problem:

In March 11, 2008 I sent to you text and pictures for my article to be
published into the AMSAT-journal:

"Modification of a CDE Tailtwister Control Unit for Satellite Automatic
Tracking"

You publisced the article and sent to me by email a pdf file of it from the
AMSAT-Journal

Unfortunately I got a crash in my HD and I lost your pdf file with my
article.

Can you please send back again to me a new pdf file of it ?

It has been publisched in AMSAT Journal beginning from  2008

Thank you very much in advance !


73" de

i8CVS Domenico





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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:57:31 -0500 (EST)
From: K5OE <k5oe@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear birds with an IC-706MkIIG
Message-ID: <8CEA51D3DA96D13-B8C-CFDB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Bob,
I have often worked the linear birds mobile using an FT-100 (Yaesu's similar
rig).  Obviously, working a linear satellite in half-duplex mode is not the
easiests of ventures, but it is not all that hard either.  FO-29 is the
easiest of the LEOs to work in this mode as it is easy to mentally adjust
for the easily estimated Doppler shift.  I have also worked both AO-40 and
AO-51 using this rig in mode L/S (using a downconverter and a trippler for
the uplink).  I find the easiest method is to find a clear spot,
approximately the middle of the passband, estimate the Doppler for the
uplink and call CQ, then tune around for someone coming back to me.  This is
not perfect, and runs the risk of interfering with an adjacent QSO, but will
work in a pinch.  Just set your rig to "split" and give it a try.

73,
Jerry, K5OE

> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have experience working the linear birds with a single
> IC-706MkIIG?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob Herrell HI4/AJ5C



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:09:37 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT- Journal (Losted article "Modification of a
CDETailtwister Control Unit for Satellite Automatic Tracking"	by i8CVS
Message-ID: <006401ccd718$90956ac0$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Ed Long ,WA4SWJ

Unfortunately all my messages to you  sent to wa4swj@xxxxxxx.xxx
were rejected to me several time with about 1 MB of attachements so
that I hope you read this letter sent to you via AMSA-BB

BTW I have asked Ed KL7UW to relay from Alaska this message to you.

This is the problem:

In March 11, 2008 I sent to you text and pictures for my article to be
published into the AMSAT-journal March/April 2008

"Modification of a CDE Tailtwister Control Unit for Satellite Automatic
Tracking"

You publisced the article and sent to me by email a pdf file of it from the
AMSAT-Journal March/April 2008

Unfortunately I got a crash in my HD and I lost your pdf file with my
article.

Can you please send back again to me a new pdf file of it ?

It has been publisched in AMSAT Journal March/April 2008

Thank you very much in advance !


73" de

i8CVS Domenico
email: domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:36:12 -0600
From: "aj9n" <aj9n@xxx.xxx>
To: n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Man on a Mission
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NEAR REAL TIME REVIEW JUST GOT OUT.
I give it 4 stars.  Lots of behind the scenes stuff.  Shows about 1 minute
of him on the radio.
Pretty good music.

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

----- Reply message -----
From: n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Date: Wed, Jan 18, 2012 5:19 pm
Subject: [amsat-bb] Man on a Mission
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>

I see that Richard Garriot has released a documentary of his trip. See the
trailer at
http://firstrunfeatures.com/intheaters.html

Web site is http://firstrunfeatures.com/manonamission/

Dave, AA4KN
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 04:36:32 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: texasmgr2000@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: AMSAT- Journal (Losted article "Modification
of	a	CDETailtwister Control Unit for Satellite Automatic	Tracking"	by
i8CVS
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Hi JoAnne ,K9JKM

Thank you very much ! But I have to send this message to you via AMSAT-BB
because your @xxxxxxx.xxx rejects back all emails coming from my provider
@xxx.xx

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'i8cvs'" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:27 AM
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] AMSAT- Journal (Losted article "Modification of a
CDETailtwister Control Unit for Satellite Automatic Tracking" by i8CVS


> Hi Domenico,
>
> The most recent e-mail address I have for Ed Long is
> texasmgr2000@xxxxx.xxx.
> I forwarded your request this address for Ed.
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
> Editor, AMSAT News Service



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:52:53 -0600
From: K4FEG <K4FEG@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] getting "cheep" on the birds! (Pun intended)
Message-ID: <4F1963A5.8090300@xxxxx.xxx>
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There seems to have been a rash of postings lately about how to get on
the the "birds" for "cheep" ( yes the pun is implied!).
IMHO cheap is not always equated with good. No one wants the "cheapest"
Doctor around or the "cheapest" lawyer or the "cheapest" anything.
With the demise of AO51 and the loss of its simple operating
characteristics, there has been a migration to the "less" popular
satellites. Most of the other FM satellites are no where near as "user
friendly" as AO51 was.

With people suggesting that people can get on to the satellites with an
inexpensive Chinese made dual band HT and a "telescoping" antenna and
nothing else, they are creating a perception that that is all you need
to have a successful satellite station.
Nothing could be further from the truth!  AO27 has a 7 minute timer,
there are increasing numbers of people who will call CQ the entire
satellite pass over North America and never answer a single response to
their "CQ's", and for some unknown reason these stations NEVER have an
email address listed on their QRZ listing. Some of us actually use the
satellites and do not like it when operators have been told they do not
need a preamp or a good antenna or a good radio.

It is much simpler to get into the uplink of the satellite than it is to
hear it.

I wish some of the "self-proclaimed" experts would tell these people
that if they cannot hear themselves on the downlink that does not mean
that they are not keying the satellite.

If people are going to encourage people to get on the satellites, teach
them how to use the satellites, not how they can get on the satellites
for less than $100.00. They are getting on the satellite and causing
interference for those that have invested in the equipment to take
proper advantage of what the satellites have to offer.

Some of the people that are pontificating profusely on the subject of
operating "for cheap" I have never heard on the satellites.

Encouraging people to become active is one thing, but giving people the
impression that all they have to do is get a basic $80.00 radio and a
telescoping antenna and they will have a top notch satellite station
tantamount to turning an untrained Doctor loose to do surgery.

For those that want to encourage people to get active, how about
teaching or recommending proper operating techniques, before you tell
them how "cheaply" they can get on the satellites.

AO27 has such a short timer that good technique is paramount for getting
the best use out of it, and SO50 has plenty of "quirks" to make it a
challenge at times for the "seasoned" operator.

I hope some of those promoting their own ideas of satellite use on a
budget would spend more teaching rather than recommending how much money
they can save by getting the least expensive gear available.

good radio, receive preamp, decent antenna & Patience = a good beginner
satellite station!
If you can't hear the bird, doesn't mean it's not hearing you!
I am happy to speak to anyone that is interested in satellite
communications, you can check out my QRZ page.
73's
Frank
K4FEG


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:22:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ALERT
Message-ID:
<648416612.480967.1327069352177.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
xxx.xxx>

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INCOMING CME: Active sunspot 1401 erupted yesterday, Jan. 19th around 16:30
UT, producing an M3-class solar flare and a full-halo coronal mass ejection
(CME). The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud expanding
almost directly toward Earth:
SEE  spaceweather.com
WA4HFN Damon



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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:24:30 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Student CubeSat Aalto-1
Message-ID:
<1327069470.45322.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Students working on the Aalto-1 CubeSat have released a 4 minute video
showing a visualization of the launch and deployment of the satellite, see

http://www.uk.amsat.org/3883

73 Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK: http://www.uk.amsat.org/
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:43:53 -0600
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear birds with an IC-706MkIIG
Message-ID:
<CAHnRQRKxq5YOQmKWZtPBz=hfPde8YUDjthDxf4yS_4XT5aCV+w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Greetings from the frigid north country,

I have used my single IC-706MKIIG with the linear sats. Back in the day I
had a table full of receivers, transmitters, transverters, preamps etc to
operate full duplex on AO-10 and the other sats. Since I had not been on
the sats since then it almost seemed like cheating using the tiny
IC-706MKIIG. Immediately the disadvantages of not having a full duplex
station became apparent. Even though I had made hundreds of contacts back
in the day they were all full duplex. I seized the excuse to buy a new
radio and bought an IC-7000 to pair up with the IC-706MKIIG for full duplex
operation and have been very happy with the pair. The receiver on the 7000
is much better than the receiver on the 706 so I use the 7000 for receive
and the 706 for transmit. In my opinion most of the mysterious QRM on the
linear sats is due to not using full duplex. With the high doppler shift
and the narrow passband filters in most modern radios it is easy to call CQ
and not realize people are trying to return your call because you are not
listening on the "right" frequency. The fact that there are many expert
opinions on using doppler correction on uplink, downlink, both uplink and
downlink or none of the above makes it even more difficult. Obviously it is
possible to make contacts without full duplex but in my opinion it is more
difficult. Hopefully the Chinese will come out with a decent low cost
HF/VHF/UHF all mode radio with CAT control that will make it possible to
operate full duplex on the linear sats without breaking the bank or having
to resurrect some old radios.

W9KE Tom Doyle


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Bob Herrell <bob72601@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have experience working the linear birds with a single
> IC-706MkIIG?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob Herrell HI4/AJ5C
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:26:31 -0600
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hamtronics receive converters
Message-ID:
<CAFq43LYk4Ef3PiSiOrHUyvhbMJV6e2FE9MZuYhftmxF47G9PQg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Does anyone know if Hamstronics has made a UHF receive converter?  The
currently make one for 2m, but I would like one to use for FO29, if
possible.

73s John AA5JG


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