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Today's Topics:
1. SKN Participants (Rsoifer@xxx.xxxx
2. Re: Model Rocket Booster Engine for Picosatellite (Dave Guimont)
3. Re: Probably a silly idea... (Edward R. Cole)
4. Re: Probably a silly idea... (Raidel Abreu Espinet)
5. Re: Probably a silly idea... (Andy Kellner)
6. VUCC #226 (Ted)
7. Need ID, ND, NV, UT, WA States (Bryan Herbert)
8. Ebb and Flow (Clint Bradford)
9. Man on a Mission (n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
10. Re: Record for # QSO in space? (Glenn AA5PK)
11. LOTW Help (Kevin Deane)
12. Re: Probably a silly idea... (charlie Cantrill)
13. Re: VUCC #226 (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
14. Re: LOTW Help (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:05:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Rsoifer@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] SKN Participants
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Hi,
Further to the ANS bulletin, if you worked someone in AMSAT's SKN on OSCAR
2012 and haven't yet done so, please send a Best Fist nomination to me at
w2rs@xxxxx.xxx.
Tnx & 73,
Ray W2RS
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:18:22 -0800
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Model Rocket Booster Engine for Picosatellite
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Hi Bill,
It is certainly refreshing to see you, David, Joe, etal discussing
new ideas, and methods, designs for our future hamsats....Kudos to
Peter ESSA for their efforts..
I'm 90, and old man, but it gives me the same thrill I got 30 years
ago when I made my first amateur satellite contact...I am well aware
of the need for funds. but with the determination that all exhibit,
it will get done....
You can surely imagine the "pie in the sky" it was in those early years...
All, keep up the good work!!!
>Aah but David, its a start along the lines you and I have been
>trying to drum up interest. You gotta crawl before you walk. As you
>know well, it's the way to start out in LEO (cheaper launch) and
>then nudge it into MEO. I said before, it's gonna happen since it's
>the obvious solution to getting to a better orbit. A lot to overcome
>but there's work going on now to get there.
>
>Did someone say that the new Delfi satellite will have some thrust
>on board or was it a wishful dream on my part??
>
>Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
>On 1/17/2012 11:42 AM, G0MRF@xxx.xxx wrote:
>>Thanks Joe.
>>
>>What an exciting concept.
>>
>>Having got really enthusiastic, I thought I would roughly calculate how
>>high one of these little rockets could raise the orbit.
>>
>>Given that one rocket reload pack has
>>
>>40 Newtons of thrust
>>and lasts for about one second
>>We have 40 Newton seconds of specific impulse.
>>
>>
>>The mass flow rate is 18.6g in one second or 0.0168kg/s
>>
>>So.....the ISP (a bit vague here) is around 219 seconds (ave thrust / mass
>>flow rate / 9.81ms^2)
>>
>>Which should get a 3.7kg satellite's apogee about..... 40km higher.
>>
>>So...Not enough for P3E then
>>
>>Oh well, not so exciting after all. Time for a beer.
>>
>>73 David G0MRF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 17/01/2012 03:56:37 GMT Standard Time,
>>rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx writes:
>>
>>Has anyone seen this. I am surprised a shuttle mission permitted this
>>type of booster. From what I believed, safety concerns prevented most
>>types of boosters.
>>
>>http://www.rocketryplanet.com/content/view/3706/30/#axzz1jgQ85qx1
>>
>>--
>>Joe Leikhim
>>
>>Leikhim and Associates
>>Communications Consultants
>>Oviedo, Florida
>>
>>www.Leikhim.com
>>
>>JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
>>
>>407-982-0446
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>
>--
>Regards...Bill Ress
>High Sierra Microwave
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:43:43 -0900
From: "Edward R. Cole" <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
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My thinking is this package could be designed as the (needed)
upgrade/replacement for the existing digi-peater/ham radio equipment
used in the "school contact" program. The advantage is a long-term
orbiting transponder with much easier maintenance access. As with
most of the advanced satellites being put up one would have a fully
functional spare. Since the environment would be much more friendly
so the unit could be built modular for additional ease in maintenance.
To aid in the "selling to NASA", I propose the telemetry system be
provided with data-ports for connection of school experiments in
support of STEM. Thus Amsat would be providing comm support in those
programs.
A local mic, power on/off and channel selector would enable astronaut
use (both for ham and personal use).
So we hams would get part of what we want while providing support of
what NASA wants. Get creative on what this could do.
73, Ed - KL7UW
At 09:54 AM 1/18/2012, Edward R. Cole wrote:
>AS I understand there are four antennas on the ISS available for ham
>use. So why does a package have to go outside? It can be installed
>inside, use ISS power, be turned on/off by astronauts at will or
>even unplugged? No batteries, no rocket propulsion, dangerous
>chemicals, no space-rated enclosure, no EVA.
>
>Last time I propose this I was told to shut my mouth and go away.
>
>73, Ed - KL7UW
>
>At 08:02 AM 1/18/2012, Trevor . wrote:
>>PCSAT-2 did exactly that on the ISS in July 2005, however, it was
>>returned to Earth Sep 2006.
>>
>>It requires an expensive EVA to install and there may be frequency
>>coordination issues with the two amateur radio stations already on the ISS.
>>
>>I wonder what the capabilities of the Kibo Robot Arm are ? I
>>believe it can attach payloads to the exterior Exposed Facility
>>(EF) with the need for an EVA.
>>
>>73 Trevor M5AKA
>>
>>--- On Wed, 18/1/12, Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably a silly idea...
>> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> > Date: Wednesday, 18 January, 2012, 16:06
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
>> >
>> > ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life.
>> > The ISS instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know
>> > how difficult is to install inside it new radios and
>> > antennas for cross-repeaters, but how difficult is really to
>> > take a small box and firmly attach it to some low risk part
>> > of the ISS, the satellite-box will use its own power solar
>> > cells and antennas and the ISS is just the carrier.
>> >
>> > It may be something silly but probably not difficult, if
>> > the astronauts made a "hand launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why
>> > can not them just hold it with latches in a low risk part of
>> > the ISS. Of course if a battery is a risk we can just design
>> > a simple system capable of work only in sun light.
>> >
>> > If you think this is a bad idea, just ignore it, if not,
>> > well who knows, may be some day an astronaut attach an small
>> > satellite in the ISS side....
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Raydel,
>> > CM2ESP
>> > Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo
>> > electronico que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de
>> > Cuba a sus miembros para respaldar el cumplimiento de los
>> > objetivos de la organizacion y su politica informativa. La
>> > persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
>> > servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones
>> > establecidas.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
>> > Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
>> > satellite program!
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>> >
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
>======================================
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73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
======================================
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:09:40 +0100 (CET)
From: Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "Edward R. Cole" <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
Message-ID: <1326974.3409.1326920980005.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I totally agree with you Ed.
----- Mensaje original -----
De: Edward R. Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Para: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Enviado: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:43:43 +0100 (CET)
Asunto: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
My thinking is this package could be designed as the (needed)
upgrade/replacement for the existing digi-peater/ham radio equipment
used in the "school contact" program. The advantage is a long-term
orbiting transponder with much easier maintenance access. As with
most of the advanced satellites being put up one would have a fully
functional spare. Since the environment would be much more friendly
so the unit could be built modular for additional ease in maintenance.
To aid in the "selling to NASA", I propose the telemetry system be
provided with data-ports for connection of school experiments in
support of STEM. Thus Amsat would be providing comm support in those
programs.
A local mic, power on/off and channel selector would enable astronaut
use (both for ham and personal use).
So we hams would get part of what we want while providing support of
what NASA wants. Get creative on what this could do.
73, Ed - KL7UW
At 09:54 AM 1/18/2012, Edward R. Cole wrote:
>AS I understand there are four antennas on the ISS available for ham
>use. So why does a package have to go outside? It can be installed
>inside, use ISS power, be turned on/off by astronauts at will or
>even unplugged? No batteries, no rocket propulsion, dangerous
>chemicals, no space-rated enclosure, no EVA.
>
>Last time I propose this I was told to shut my mouth and go away.
>
>73, Ed - KL7UW
>
>At 08:02 AM 1/18/2012, Trevor . wrote:
>>PCSAT-2 did exactly that on the ISS in July 2005, however, it was
>>returned to Earth Sep 2006.
>>
>>It requires an expensive EVA to install and there may be frequency
>>coordination issues with the two amateur radio stations already on the ISS.
>>
>>I wonder what the capabilities of the Kibo Robot Arm are ? I
>>believe it can attach payloads to the exterior Exposed Facility
>>(EF) with the need for an EVA.
>>
>>73 Trevor M5AKA
>>
>>--- On Wed, 18/1/12, Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably a silly idea...
>> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> > Date: Wednesday, 18 January, 2012, 16:06
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
>> >
>> > ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life.
>> > The ISS instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know
>> > how difficult is to install inside it new radios and
>> > antennas for cross-repeaters, but how difficult is really to
>> > take a small box and firmly attach it to some low risk part
>> > of the ISS, the satellite-box will use its own power solar
>> > cells and antennas and the ISS is just the carrier.
>> >
>> > It may be something silly but probably not difficult, if
>> > the astronauts made a "hand launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why
>> > can not them just hold it with latches in a low risk part of
>> > the ISS. Of course if a battery is a risk we can just design
>> > a simple system capable of work only in sun light.
>> >
>> > If you think this is a bad idea, just ignore it, if not,
>> > well who knows, may be some day an astronaut attach an small
>> > satellite in the ISS side....
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Raydel,
>> > CM2ESP
>> > Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo
>> > electronico que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de
>> > Cuba a sus miembros para respaldar el cumplimiento de los
>> > objetivos de la organizacion y su politica informativa. La
>> > persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
>> > servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones
>> > establecidas.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
>> > Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
>> > satellite program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
>======================================
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73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
======================================
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Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que
ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros para
respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizacion y su politica
informativa. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:20:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Andy Kellner <hawat1@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
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> It should have been simple, but one *major* component of both SuitSat
and ARRISat was the triple redundant timer that kept the transmitters
off for 15 minutes after 3 toggle switches were turned on.? This allowed the
> satellites sufficient time to travel away from the ISS before the
low-power transmitting began.
Noteworthy to say that this system has failed with the ARRISat launch, and
nobody seemed to care or even notice. Not that the timer has failed - I am
sure it did not transmit within 15 minutes after being turned on.
The problem was that one of the astronauts flicked the switches as soon as
he and the satellite was outside the station (instead of switching them on
just before they let go), but then a lengthy delay occurred as they
discovered the missing UHF antenna. Meanwhile the timer expired and ARRISat
began operating &? transmitting. Clear evidence of this are sstv images
received from ground-stations which? show the astronaut holding the
satellite in his hands : http://wordpress.projectoscar.co.uk/?page_id=543
and others.
Andreas - VK4HHH
________________________________
From: Stephen E. Belter <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 3:07 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
Raydel:
Unfortunately, nothing concerning the ISS is easy.
The ISS has had problems with radio frequency interference (RFI) in the
past, and an RFI problem could affect the docking of supply vessels (e.g., a
collision) or spacewalking astronauts.? Astronaut safety is paramount.? As a
result, all non-critical radios (including ham radios) are turned off during
docking, repositioning of the Soyuz escape capsules, and space walks.? So a
hitchhiking amateur satellite would need to be *reliably* remote
controllable from inside the ISS and maybe from the ground too.
It should have been simple, but one *major* component of both SuitSat and
ARRISat was the triple redundant timer that kept the transmitters off for 15
minutes after 3 toggle switches were turned on.? This allowed the satellites
sufficient time to travel away from the ISS before the low-power
transmitting began.
Catching a ride on an unmanned rocket is difficult and expensive.? Getting
to the ISS and on any manned mission is near impossible.? It is a real
credit to the dedicated volunteers of AMSAT that we've ever been on board
the shuttle or ISS.
73, Steve N9IP
--
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Andre
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:42 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
Op 18-1-2012 17:06, Raidel Abreu Espinet schreef:
> Hi all,
>
> This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
>
> ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life. The ISS
instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know how difficult is to
install inside it new radios and antennas for cross-repeaters, but how
difficult is really to take a small box and firmly attach it to some low
risk part of the ISS, the satellite-box will use its own power solar cells
and antennas and the ISS is just the carrier.
>
> It may be something silly but probably not difficult, if the astronauts
made a "hand launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why can not them just hold it with
latches in a low risk part of the ISS. Of course if a battery is a risk we
can just design a simple system capable of work only in sun light.
>
> If you think this is a bad idea, just ignore it, if not, well who knows,
may be some day an astronaut attach an small satellite in the ISS side....
>
> 73,
> Raydel,
> CM2ESP
> Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo electronico
que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros para
respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizacion y su politica
informativa. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
Not a bad idea, in fact it has been done before and at one time was planned
a seccond time, lookup pcsat 2 and pcsat 3.
Not sure why pcsat 3 never flew, from what I understood it was ready to go
awaiting rfi aprovement.
73 Andre PE1RDW
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:18:53 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC #226
Message-ID: <494C720E2F7248FB9F6FB9EB311FB48F@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Finally arrived today. My thanks to all who contributed with contacts and
cards. Most of the blame goes to John, K8YSE, who got me started on the
venture and to Loren, K7CWQ for continuing encouragement and advice.
73, Ted
K7TRK
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:09:42 -0800
From: Bryan Herbert <ke6zgp@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Need ID, ND, NV, UT, WA States
Message-ID: <4F175136.8030508@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Im working on my WAS and VUCC awards and am currently half way done with
WAS Basic via LOTW, a little more than half way if I combine with QSL
cards but still have a long ways to go for WAS Satellite and VUCC. I'm
usually on any pass with a max elevation of 50+ degrees however the
following passes are ideal to help me get Idaho, North Dakota, Nevada,
Utah and Washington.
AO-27
January 19th 2100-2110 UTC
January 22nd 2114-2124 UTC
January 26th 2100-2110 UTC
SO-50
January 27th 0037-0046 UTC
Obviously the pass times of the later dates may vary but if any of you
can help it would be greatly appreciated.
--
Bryan Herbert - KE6ZGP
Newhall, CA. DM04RJ USA
http://bryanherbert.com
http://twitter.com/ke6zgp
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:17:26 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ebb and Flow
Message-ID: <8347B7DB-B47D-487D-842A-C1891F537C24@xxx.xxx>
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NSASA has a marvelous public relations / marketing team in place. From
yesterday's media alerts ...
MONTANA STUDENTS SUBMIT WINNING NAMES FOR NASA LUNAR SPACECRAFT
WASHINGTON -- Twin NASA spacecraft that achieved orbit around the moon
New Year's Eve and New Year's Day have new names thanks to elementary
students in Bozeman, Montana. Their winning entry, "Ebb and Flow,"
was selected as part of a nation-wide school contest that began in
October 2011.
The names were submitted by fourth graders from the Emily Dickinson
Elementary School. Nearly 900 classrooms with more than 11,000
students from 45 states, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia,
participated in the contest. Previously named Gravity Recovery And
Interior Laboratory, or GRAIL A and B, the washing machine-sized
spacecraft begin science operations in March.
"The 28 students of Nina DiMauro's class at the Emily Dickinson
Elementary School have really hit the nail on the head," said Maria
Zuber, GRAIL principal investigator from the Massachusetts Institute
of Technology. "We were really impressed that the students drew their
inspiration by researching GRAIL and its goal of measuring gravity.
Ebb and Flow truly capture the spirit and excitement of our mission."
Zuber and Sally Ride, America's first woman in space and CEO of Sally
Ride Science in San Diego, selected the names following the contest,
which attracted 890 proposals via the Internet and mail. The contest
invited ideas from students ages 5 to 18 enrolled in U.S. schools.
Although everything from spelling and grammar to creativity were
considered, Zuber and Ride primarily took into account the quality of
submitted essays.
"With submissions from all over the United States and even some from
abroad, there were a lot of great entries to review," Ride said.
"This contest generated a great deal of excitement in classrooms
across America, and along with it an opportunity to use that
excitement to teach science."
GRAIL is NASA's first planetary mission carrying instruments fully
dedicated to education and public outreach. Each spacecraft carries a
small camera called GRAIL MoonKAM (Moon Knowledge Acquired by Middle
school students). Thousands of students in grades five through eight
will select target areas on the lunar surface and send requests for
study to the GRAIL MoonKAM Mission Operations Center in San Diego.
The winning prize for the Dickinson students is to choose the first
camera images. Dickinson is one of nearly 2,000 schools registered
for the MoonKAM program, which is led by Ride and her team at Sally
Ride Science in collaboration with undergraduate students at the
University of California in San Diego.
"These spacecraft represent not only great science but great
inspiration for our future," said Jim Green, director of NASA's
Planetary Science Division in Washington. "As they study our lunar
neighbor, Ebb and Flow will undergo nearly the same motion as the
tides we feel here on Earth."
Launched in September 2011, Ebb and Flow will be placed in a
near-polar, near-circular orbit with an altitude of about 34 miles
(55 kilometers). During their science mission, the duo will answer
longstanding questions about the moon and give scientists a better
understanding of how Earth and other rocky planets in the solar
system formed.
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., manages the
GRAIL mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington.
The GRAIL mission is part of the Discovery Program managed at NASA's
Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. Lockheed Martin
Space Systems in Denver built the spacecraft.
To read the winning submission visit:
https://moonkam.ucsd.edu/about/spacecraft_names
Information about MoonKAM is available online at:
https://moonkam.ucsd.edu
For more information about GRAIL visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/grail
or
http://grail.nasa.gov
-end-
Clint Bradford
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:19:30 -0500
From: <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Man on a Mission
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I see that Richard Garriot has released a documentary of his trip. See the
trailer at
http://firstrunfeatures.com/intheaters.html
Web site is http://firstrunfeatures.com/manonamission/
Dave, AA4KN
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:44:47 -0600
From: Glenn AA5PK <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Rick - WA4NVM <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Record for # QSO in space?
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---- Rick - WA4NVM <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> And don't forget Richard Garriott. I think he wrote logs on everything
> but the Charmin.
Mike Fincke logged a lot of QSOs also. Maybe not a record number.
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:23:25 -0800
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW Help
Message-ID: <COL107-W287DD3A5374F4D4F8F0AB83860@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Is there anyone intersted in helping me with LOTW? I did all the
requirements, do I upload all my qso's individually? and how do I know if
the other guy is going to do the same? Maybe someone on here could do an old
qso we have together and I could see how it works?
Thanks for any help! :)
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:31:09 -0800 (PST)
From: charlie Cantrill <ki4rdt@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
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<1326940269.77482.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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A fantastic idea! Thank you for suggesting this! This is just what is needed
to promote ARISS and STEM. How about just like ARISSAT with telemetry and
SSTV with a schedule switching between SSB and FM transponder like HO-68
did? My students would love to get pictures and data from the ISS on orbit
plus take advantage of an easy to use transponder. How about having cameras,
one inside and one outside. I know this is a tall order, but this would be a
killer app for the ARISS program.?
Charlie Cantrill
KI4RDT
----- Mensaje original -----
De: Edward R. Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Para: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Enviado: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:43:43 +0100 (CET)
Asunto: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
My thinking is this package could be designed as the (needed)?
upgrade/replacement for the existing digi-peater/ham radio equipment?
used in the "school contact" program. ?The advantage is a long-term?
orbiting transponder with much easier maintenance access. ?As with?
most of the advanced satellites being put up one would have a fully?
functional spare. ?Since the environment would be much more friendly?
so the unit could be built modular for additional ease in maintenance.
To aid in the "selling to NASA", I propose the telemetry system be?
provided with data-ports for connection of school experiments in?
support of STEM. ?Thus Amsat would be providing comm support in those
programs.
A local mic, power on/off and channel selector would enable astronaut?
use (both for ham and personal use).
So we hams would get part of what we want while providing support of?
what NASA wants. ?Get creative on what this could do.
73, Ed - KL7UW
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:21:14 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC #226
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUe8ouvT596m2xytQ47wVL6Cr8oSkzHUJ_qTFgmWONXa0g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Ted,
> Finally arrived today. My thanks to all who contributed with contacts and
> cards. Most of the blame goes to John, K8YSE, who got me started on the
> venture and to Loren, K7CWQ for continuing encouragement and advice.
Congratulations!
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK (VUCC #210)
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:54:00 -0600
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LOTW Help
Message-ID: <BAY169-DS47D4B9BD1DD87550D354C18A860@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Kevin,
I have been doing LOTW for quite a while. My side of our QSOs are
in there.
How you upload them is up to you. Most guys do them in batches. I
have been using the N3FJP logging software which makes it VERY easy, but I
have done it uploading ADIF files as well.
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf
is a real good place to start. Feel free to ask any questions, and I
suspect keeping this discussion public may be a good idea as there are
probably others who are interested.
73,
Joe kk0sd
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Kevin Deane
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:23 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW Help
Is there anyone intersted in helping me with LOTW? I did all the
requirements, do I upload all my qso's individually? and how do I know if
the other guy is going to do the same? Maybe someone on here could do an old
qso we have together and I could see how it works?
Thanks for any help! :)
Kevin
KF7MYK
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