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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Seeking contact info for JA8TCH FOUND (Alan P. Biddle)
2. Re: Record for # QSO in space? (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
3. Re: Record for # QSO in space? (Rick - WA4NVM)
4. Probably a silly idea... (Raidel Abreu Espinet)
5. Re: Probably a silly idea... (Andre)
6. Re: Probably a silly idea... (David Johnson)
7. Re: Probably a silly idea... (Trevor .)
8. Re: Probably a silly idea... (Stephen E. Belter)
9. Re: Probably a silly idea... (Edward R. Cole)
10. HI4/AJ5C update for 1-18-12 (Bob Herrell)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:35:45 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "'SAREX-BB'" <SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Seeking contact info for JA8TCH FOUND
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Thanks for all the help in locating him.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan P. Biddle
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:30 PM
To: AMSAT-BB; SAREX-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seeking contact info for JA8TCH
Hi,
I am looking for information, particularly an email address, for JA8TCH.
He(?) was one of the last to receive telemetry from ARISSat-1.
Unfortunately there is no listing in English sources such as QRZ.COM, though
I got several hits from Japanese language sites, including an Echolink node.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:01:19 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Record for # QSO in space?
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Hi!
> Anyone know who has the record for the most ham QSO's in space?
> Astronaut Doug Wheelock maybe?
>
> Just curious. ?It would be a nice record to have some other people try
> to break and incentive to keep the activity going.
I think I saw that Doug Wheelock had a few hundred QSOs (two of those
with me, including one during a hamfest demonstration). Bill McArthur
had somewhere around 1800 QSOs when he was on the ISS in late 2005-
early 2006, and that doesn't include QSOs he made on earlier flights.
It would be nice to hear more random QSOs with hams coming from the
ISS. That all depends on crews that are interested in using the radio for
more than the scheduled activities. Not many seem to have any interest
in the unscheduled radio activity anymore. A shame, but also a sign of
the times - where ISS crews have more options for their limited free time,
compared to those who were on Mir.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:32:00 -0600
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Record for # QSO in space?
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And don't forget Richard Garriott. I think he wrote logs on everything
but the Charmin.
ISS -- I keep remembering the old days -- Repeater Mode - not packet racket.
That's where we first met, Patrick.
73,
Rick WA4NVM
Hi!
> Anyone know who has the record for the most ham QSO's in space?
> Astronaut Doug Wheelock maybe?
>
> Just curious. It would be a nice record to have some other people try
> to break and incentive to keep the activity going.
I think I saw that Doug Wheelock had a few hundred QSOs (two of those
with me, including one during a hamfest demonstration). Bill McArthur
had somewhere around 1800 QSOs when he was on the ISS in late 2005-
early 2006, and that doesn't include QSOs he made on earlier flights.
It would be nice to hear more random QSOs with hams coming from the
ISS. That all depends on crews that are interested in using the radio for
more than the scheduled activities. Not many seem to have any interest
in the unscheduled radio activity anymore. A shame, but also a sign of
the times - where ISS crews have more options for their limited free time,
compared to those who were on Mir.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:06:05 +0100 (CET)
From: Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably a silly idea...
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Hi all,
This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life. The ISS instead
is a wonderfull platform, of course I know how difficult is to install
inside it new radios and antennas for cross-repeaters, but how difficult is
really to take a small box and firmly attach it to some low risk part of the
ISS, the satellite-box will use its own power solar cells and antennas and
the ISS is just the carrier.
It may be something silly but probably not difficult, if the astronauts made
a "hand launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why can not them just hold it with
latches in a low risk part of the ISS. Of course if a battery is a risk we
can just design a simple system capable of work only in sun light.
If you think this is a bad idea, just ignore it, if not, well who knows, may
be some day an astronaut attach an small satellite in the ISS side....
73,
Raydel,
CM2ESP
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informativa. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:42:17 +0100
From: Andre <sats@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
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Op 18-1-2012 17:06, Raidel Abreu Espinet schreef:
> Hi all,
>
> This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
>
> ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life. The ISS
instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know how difficult is to
install inside it new radios and antennas for cross-repeaters, but how
difficult is really to take a small box and firmly attach it to some low
risk part of the ISS, the satellite-box will use its own power solar cells
and antennas and the ISS is just the carrier.
>
> It may be something silly but probably not difficult, if the astronauts
made a "hand launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why can not them just hold it with
latches in a low risk part of the ISS. Of course if a battery is a risk we
can just design a simple system capable of work only in sun light.
>
> If you think this is a bad idea, just ignore it, if not, well who knows,
may be some day an astronaut attach an small satellite in the ISS side....
>
> 73,
> Raydel,
> CM2ESP
> Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo electronico
que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros para
respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizacion y su politica
informativa. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
> _______________________________________________
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Not a bad idea, in fact it has been done before and at one time was
planned a seccond time, lookup pcsat 2 and pcsat 3.
Not sure why pcsat 3 never flew, from what I understood it was ready to
go awaiting rfi aprovement.
73 Andre PE1RDW
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:50:11 +0000
From: David Johnson <david.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
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Hi,
This was done for PCSat-2 as part of the MISSIE experiment.
The problem is that you have to GUARANTEE to NASA that the device is
inoperable during space walks which means a command uplink and several
layers of safety in the command and control.
Dave, G4DPZ
On 18/01/12 16:06, Raidel Abreu Espinet wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
>
> ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life. The ISS
instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know how difficult is to
install inside it new radios and antennas for cross-repeaters, but how
difficult is really to take a small box and firmly attach it to some low
risk part of the ISS, the satellite-box will use its own power solar cells
and antennas and the ISS is just the carrier.
>
> It may be something silly but probably not difficult, if the astronauts
made a "hand launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why can not them just hold it with
latches in a low risk part of the ISS. Of course if a battery is a risk we
can just design a simple system capable of work only in sun light.
>
> If you think this is a bad idea, just ignore it, if not, well who knows,
may be some day an astronaut attach an small satellite in the ISS side....
>
> 73,
> Raydel,
> CM2ESP
> Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo electronico
que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros para
respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizacion y su politica
informativa. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:02:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
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PCSAT-2 did exactly that on the ISS in July 2005, however, it was returned
to Earth Sep 2006.
It requires an expensive EVA to install and there may be frequency
coordination issues with the two amateur radio stations already on the ISS.
I wonder what the capabilities of the Kibo Robot Arm are ? I believe it can
attach payloads to the exterior Exposed Facility (EF) with the need for an
EVA.
73 Trevor M5AKA
--- On Wed, 18/1/12, Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> From: Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably a silly idea...
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Wednesday, 18 January, 2012, 16:06
> Hi all,
>
> This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
>
> ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life.
> The ISS instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know
> how difficult is to install inside it new radios and
> antennas for cross-repeaters, but how difficult is really to
> take a small box and firmly attach it to some low risk part
> of the ISS, the satellite-box will use its own power solar
> cells and antennas and the ISS is just the carrier.
>
> It may be something silly but probably not difficult, if
> the astronauts made a "hand launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why
> can not them just hold it with latches in a low risk part of
> the ISS. Of course if a battery is a risk we can just design
> a simple system capable of work only in sun light.
>
> If you think this is a bad idea, just ignore it, if not,
> well who knows, may be some day an astronaut attach an small
> satellite in the ISS side....
>
> 73,
> Raydel,
> CM2ESP
> Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo
> electronico que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de
> Cuba a sus miembros para respaldar el cumplimiento de los
> objetivos de la organizacion y su politica informativa. La
> persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
> servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones
> establecidas.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
> Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:07:40 -0500
From: "Stephen E. Belter" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
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Raydel:
Unfortunately, nothing concerning the ISS is easy.
The ISS has had problems with radio frequency interference (RFI) in the
past, and an RFI problem could affect the docking of supply vessels (e.g., a
collision) or spacewalking astronauts. Astronaut safety is paramount. As a
result, all non-critical radios (including ham radios) are turned off during
docking, repositioning of the Soyuz escape capsules, and space walks. So a
hitchhiking amateur satellite would need to be *reliably* remote
controllable from inside the ISS and maybe from the ground too.
It should have been simple, but one *major* component of both SuitSat and
ARRISat was the triple redundant timer that kept the transmitters off for 15
minutes after 3 toggle switches were turned on. This allowed the satellites
sufficient time to travel away from the ISS before the low-power
transmitting began.
Catching a ride on an unmanned rocket is difficult and expensive. Getting
to the ISS and on any manned mission is near impossible. It is a real
credit to the dedicated volunteers of AMSAT that we've ever been on board
the shuttle or ISS.
73, Steve N9IP
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Andre
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:42 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
Op 18-1-2012 17:06, Raidel Abreu Espinet schreef:
> Hi all,
>
> This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
>
> ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life. The ISS
instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know how difficult is to
install inside it new radios and antennas for cross-repeaters, but how
difficult is really to take a small box and firmly attach it to some low
risk part of the ISS, the satellite-box will use its own power solar cells
and antennas and the ISS is just the carrier.
>
> It may be something silly but probably not difficult, if the astronauts
made a "hand launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why can not them just hold it with
latches in a low risk part of the ISS. Of course if a battery is a risk we
can just design a simple system capable of work only in sun light.
>
> If you think this is a bad idea, just ignore it, if not, well who knows,
may be some day an astronaut attach an small satellite in the ISS side....
>
> 73,
> Raydel,
> CM2ESP
> Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo electronico
que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros para
respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizacion y su politica
informativa. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Not a bad idea, in fact it has been done before and at one time was planned
a seccond time, lookup pcsat 2 and pcsat 3.
Not sure why pcsat 3 never flew, from what I understood it was ready to go
awaiting rfi aprovement.
73 Andre PE1RDW
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:54:57 -0900
From: "Edward R. Cole" <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Probably a silly idea...
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AS I understand there are four antennas on the ISS available for ham
use. So why does a package have to go outside? It can be installed
inside, use ISS power, be turned on/off by astronauts at will or even
unplugged? No batteries, no rocket propulsion, dangerous chemicals,
no space-rated enclosure, no EVA.
Last time I propose this I was told to shut my mouth and go away.
73, Ed - KL7UW
At 08:02 AM 1/18/2012, Trevor . wrote:
>PCSAT-2 did exactly that on the ISS in July 2005, however, it was
>returned to Earth Sep 2006.
>
>It requires an expensive EVA to install and there may be frequency
>coordination issues with the two amateur radio stations already on the ISS.
>
>I wonder what the capabilities of the Kibo Robot Arm are ? I believe
>it can attach payloads to the exterior Exposed Facility (EF) with
>the need for an EVA.
>
>73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>--- On Wed, 18/1/12, Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>
> > From: Raidel Abreu Espinet <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Probably a silly idea...
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Date: Wednesday, 18 January, 2012, 16:06
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is probably a silly idea but who knows....
> >
> > ARRISat-1 was a wonderfull satellite but with a short life.
> > The ISS instead is a wonderfull platform, of course I know
> > how difficult is to install inside it new radios and
> > antennas for cross-repeaters, but how difficult is really to
> > take a small box and firmly attach it to some low risk part
> > of the ISS, the satellite-box will use its own power solar
> > cells and antennas and the ISS is just the carrier.
> >
> > It may be something silly but probably not difficult, if
> > the astronauts made a "hand launch" with ARISSat-1/KEDR why
> > can not them just hold it with latches in a low risk part of
> > the ISS. Of course if a battery is a risk we can just design
> > a simple system capable of work only in sun light.
> >
> > If you think this is a bad idea, just ignore it, if not,
> > well who knows, may be some day an astronaut attach an small
> > satellite in the ISS side....
> >
> > 73,
> > Raydel,
> > CM2ESP
> > Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo
> > electronico que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de
> > Cuba a sus miembros para respaldar el cumplimiento de los
> > objetivos de la organizacion y su politica informativa. La
> > persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
> > servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones
> > establecidas.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
> > Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
> > satellite program!
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> >
>
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73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:40:17 -0400
From: Bob Herrell <bob72601@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] HI4/AJ5C update for 1-18-12
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Good contacts AO-27 01/18/12 1811z de HI4AJ5C: K9OIM, K4FEG/M, W4MPS,
KB0RZD, KD0QAF, KE3LB, WA8SME and KD8QBA.
73,
Bob HI4/AJ5C
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