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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Radio Pirates (Joe)
2. Re: Radio Pirates (Alan P. Biddle)
3. Re: QB50 Video (Greg D.)
4. Re: Radio Pirates (Clint Bradford)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:12:57 -0600
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates
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That is legal ONLY if they have been type accepted by the FCC for those
services and at those prices I can almost guarantee they were not.
Joe WB9SBD
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 1/14/2012 11:03 AM, Alan P. Biddle wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Many of those same radios are being sold through legitimate/commercial
> dealers for FRS/GMRS rigs. For instance, the same Puxing I use for a
> WIDE1-1 digi was bought in large numbers in the Palm Springs area for backup
> coms between all the gated communities in case of an earthquake.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Bob Bruninga
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Pirates
>
>
> Went to local flea market today (34F degrees out) for a wwod stove and was
> shocked to see a guy selling brand-new boxes of VHF and UHF, and Dual band
> HT's fully programmable from 140 to 170 and 440 to 570 MHz 5 to 7 watts.
>
> He had several brands and some were even dual band. Most boxes had chinese
> instructions.
>
> Radios were between $65 to $80 each.
>
> I guess I knew that these were available, but now that they are being sold
> in large quantities at general (non ham) flea markets, I guess the cat is
> out of the bag.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:33:55 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Joe'" <nss@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates
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Agreed. However my point was that the intended target is not, necessarily,
ham pirates, but people who have a legitimate use, even if the rigs are not
up to spec.
In another case where these radios were considered for a major ham project,
it required several exchanges with the manufacturer to elicit the specific
technical information, 2nd harmonic on 2 meters, that they did in fact not
meet the certification claimed. You pretty much needed to know the answer
to make them fess up.
One of the very early 2 meter SSB rigs, ca 1970s, used for satellite
communications turned out to have a nasty spur on an aircraft ATC frequency.
Japanese "rice boxes" were at about the same point that the Chinese rigs are
now.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:13 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates
That is legal ONLY if they have been type accepted by the FCC for those
services and at those prices I can almost guarantee they were not.
Joe WB9SBD
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 1/14/2012 11:03 AM, Alan P. Biddle wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Many of those same radios are being sold through legitimate/commercial
> dealers for FRS/GMRS rigs. For instance, the same Puxing I use for a
> WIDE1-1 digi was bought in large numbers in the Palm Springs area for
backup
> coms between all the gated communities in case of an earthquake.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Bob Bruninga
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Pirates
>
>
> Went to local flea market today (34F degrees out) for a wwod stove and was
> shocked to see a guy selling brand-new boxes of VHF and UHF, and Dual band
> HT's fully programmable from 140 to 170 and 440 to 570 MHz 5 to 7 watts.
>
> He had several brands and some were even dual band. Most boxes had
chinese
> instructions.
>
> Radios were between $65 to $80 each.
>
> I guess I knew that these were available, but now that they are being sold
> in large quantities at general (non ham) flea markets, I guess the cat is
> out of the bag.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:03:04 -0800
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: QB50 Video
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So, how are they going to compensate for Newton's 3rd Law when ejecting 50
3kg masses, one at a time?
Greg KO6TH
> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:14:57 +0000
> From: m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] QB50 Video
>
> A visualization of the launch and deployment of 50 Cubesats in the QB50
project can be seen at
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wds7nKVhjs4
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
> AMSAT-UK@ http://www.uk.amsat.org/
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:05:43 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radio Pirates
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>> ... Many of those same radios are being sold through
legitimate/commercial dealers ...
OK so far ...
>> ... for FRS/GMRS rigs ...
Not OK - they are not legal for either the GMRS nor the FRS.
>> ... the same Puxing ... was bought in large numbers in the Palm Springs
area for backup
coms between all the gated communities in case of an earthquake ...
The day my community uses Wouxun/Puxing products for ANY facet of community
service is the day I move. AFTER educating the powers-that-be of the dire
consequences of using sub-par equipment to protect their constituents.
But when it comes to these matters hams do not care about reliability or
dependability or service or parts availability - 'cause the "price is right."
You get what you pay for.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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