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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Question of the Day - Portable Power (Clint Bradford)
2. SatPC key? (Ted)
3. Re: SatPC key? (Andrew Glasbrenner)
4. Re: SatPC key? (Ted)
5. AMSAT Store (Martha)
6. Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use (Thomas Doyle)
7. Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
(Clayton Coleman W5PFG)
8. Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
(KP4TR (Ramon Gonzalez))
9. Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use (John Geiger)
10. Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use (George Henry)
11. Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use (Thomas Doyle)
12. Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use (George Henry)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:10:30 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Question of the Day - Portable Power
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Many chapters of the indispensable guide to everything you need to know
about portable power - the book, "Batteries in a Portable World" - are
available absolutely free online from ...
http://www.cadex.com
I don't leave home without it. Literally: I bought a Kindle version ... (grin)
Clint K6LCS
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:19:42 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC key?
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I need to purchase a key for PCSat
The link to the AMSAT Store is not working..
Where else can I go, pse?
TK, K7TRK
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:49:54 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC key?
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The store is down because of a server issue, but you can always call Martha
in the morning. The toll free number is at the top of the webpage.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:19 PM, "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I need to purchase a key for PCSat
>
> The link to the AMSAT Store is not working..
>
> Where else can I go, pse?
>
> TK, K7TRK
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:52:53 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Ted'" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC key?
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Got an answer and solution..
No need to reply
Tnx, Ted, K7TRK
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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:20 PM
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Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC key?
I need to purchase a key for PCSat
The link to the AMSAT Store is not working..
Where else can I go, pse?
TK, K7TRK
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:20:36 -0500
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Store
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The AMSAT store is now up and running!
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73- Martha
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:49:09 -0600
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
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This may have been discussed previously but just in case it has not.
I purchased an interesting radio that might be an inexpensive way to
operate full duplex on the FM sats.
The radio cost $65 including shipping and all accessories. It runs 2W on
both 2M and 70cm. It has
almost all the bells and whistles you would expect on a dual band handi. 99
memories - tone squelch ...
In addition to the low cost the radio is very small. See pic - I have
fairly normal size hands so you can see how
small it is.
http://www.tomdoyle.org/UV-X4.jpg
I purchased it expecting the worst. Much to my surprise it actually works
quite well. The menu system is
the most intuitive I have found on any radio. The only negatives I could
find were
- no channel lockout when scanning - I put the local weather station in one
of the memories.
Since it is always on you can not use the scan function.
- I fully expected a radio of such a small size would not have adequate
sound from the speaker.
In fact the sound from the speaker is really loud. Everything is set
using a rotary digital switch
with detents. This works great for selecting channels and using the menu
functions. There are
only 9 detent positions for the volume. The lowest volume setting is
mute, one click up and it is
loud and it keeps getting louder as you go up. There was nothing wrong
with my radio - they
all do it.
- no DTMF pad
None of these negatives affect the use of the radio with an FM sat. You
could buy a pair of these
for $130 including shipping. Add a diplexer and Elk/Arrow antenna and I
think you would be good to
go with a very compact low cost full duplex portable FM station.
I bought mine from http://www.maintradingcompany.com and received excellent
service. In case you
were wondering what the goofy looking LED between the switch and the
antenna is - it is for the
flashlight function the radio offers as a feature. The flashlight feature
is invaluable :-)
Sent from my computer.
W9KE Tom Doyle
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:49:11 -0600
From: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
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Excellent idea and post, Tom.
I have posted two YouTube videos of the Baeofeng UV-3R being used for
satellite work. I would suspect performance of the UV-X4 to be
similar in nature. AC0RA and I have made a few "Baofeng to Baofeng"
contacts to test the performance on several of the LEO FM satellites.
Timing and antenna orientation is key and I would recommend two the
radios be used for full-duplex, as in your suggestion Tom.
Here's a video of receiving AO-27 using the stock rubber duck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYZyC_vkew0
here's a video of receiving AO-51 using an Arrow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRN4uJXvnK0
(I did make a contact on this AO-51 pass, though I wouldn't recommend
it because of the semi-duplex limitation)
73,
Clayton
W5PFG
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> This may have been discussed previously but just in case it has not.
>
> I purchased an interesting radio that might be an inexpensive way to
> operate full duplex on the FM sats.
> The radio cost $65 including shipping and all accessories. It runs 2W on
> both 2M and 70cm. It has
> almost all the bells and whistles you would expect on a dual band handi. 99
> memories - tone squelch ...
>
> In addition to the low cost the radio is very small. See pic - I have
> fairly normal size hands so you can see how
> small it is.
>
> http://www.tomdoyle.org/UV-X4.jpg
>
> I purchased it expecting the worst. Much to my surprise it actually works
> quite well. The menu system is
> the most intuitive I have found on any radio. The only negatives I could
> find were
>
> - no channel lockout when scanning - I put the local weather station in one
> of the memories.
> ?Since it is always on you can not use the scan function.
>
> - I fully expected a radio of such a small size would not have adequate
> sound from the speaker.
> ?In fact the sound from the speaker is really loud. Everything is set
> using a rotary digital switch
> ?with detents. This works great for selecting channels and using the menu
> functions. There are
> ?only 9 detent positions for the volume. The lowest volume setting is
> mute, one click up and it is
> ?loud and it keeps getting louder as you go up. There was nothing wrong
> with my radio - they
> ?all do it.
>
> - no DTMF pad
>
> None of these negatives affect the use of the radio with an FM sat. You
> could buy a pair of these
> for $130 including shipping. Add a diplexer and Elk/Arrow antenna and I
> think you would be good to
> go with a very compact low cost full duplex portable FM station.
>
> I bought mine from http://www.maintradingcompany.com and received excellent
> service. In case you
> were wondering what the goofy looking LED between the switch and the
> antenna is - it is for the
> flashlight function the radio offers as a feature. The flashlight feature
> is invaluable :-)
>
> Sent from my computer.
>
> W9KE ?Tom Doyle
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:22:16 -0500
From: "KP4TR (Ramon Gonzalez)" <kp4tr.ramon@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
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Looks like a knock off of Yaesu VX-3. For $65 not bad
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 12, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Excellent idea and post, Tom.
>
> I have posted two YouTube videos of the Baeofeng UV-3R being used for
> satellite work. I would suspect performance of the UV-X4 to be
> similar in nature. AC0RA and I have made a few "Baofeng to Baofeng"
> contacts to test the performance on several of the LEO FM satellites.
> Timing and antenna orientation is key and I would recommend two the
> radios be used for full-duplex, as in your suggestion Tom.
>
> Here's a video of receiving AO-27 usin has not.
>>
>> I purchased an interesting radio that might be an inexpensive way to
>> operate full duplex on the FM sats.
>> The radio cost $65 including shipping and all accessories. It runs 2W on
>> both 2M and 70cm. It has
>> almost all the bells and whistles you would expect on a dual band handi. 99
>> memories - tone squelch ...
>>
>> In addition to the low cost the radio is very small. See pic - I have
>> fairly normal size hands so you can see how
>> small it is.
>>
>> http://www.tomdoyle.org/UV-X4.jpg
>>
>> I purchased it expecting the worst. Much to my surprise it actually works
>> quite well. The menu system is
>> the most intuitive I have found on any radio. The only negatives I could
>> find were
>>
>> - no channel lockout when scanning - I put the local weather station in one
>> of the memories.
>> Since it is always on you can not use the scan function.
>>
>> - I fully expected a radio of such a small size would not have adequate
>> sound from the speaker.
>> In fact the sound from the speaker is really loud. Everything is set
>> using a rotary digital switch
>> with detents. This works great for selecting channels and using the menu
>> functions. There are
>> only 9 detent positions for the volume. The lowest volume setting is
>> mute, one click up and it is
>> loud and it keeps getting louder as you go up. There was nothing wrong
>> with my radio - they
>> all do it.
>>
>> - no DTMF pad
>>
>> None of these negatives affect the use of the radio with an FM sat. You
>> could buy a pair of these
>> for $130 including shipping. Add a diplexer and Elk/Arrow antenna and I
>> think you would be good to
>> go with a very compact low cost full duplex portable FM station.
>>
>> I bought mine from http://www.maintradingcompany.com and received excellent
>> service. In case you
>> were wondering what the goofy looking LED between the switch and the
>> antenna is - it is for the
>> flashlight function the radio offers as a feature. The flashlight feature
>> is invaluable :-)
>>
>> Sent from my computer.
>>
>> W9KE Tom Doyle
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:26:59 -0600
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "KP4TR (Ramon Gonzalez)" <kp4tr.ramon@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx For $65 not bad
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 12, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Excellent idea and post, Tom.
> >
> > I have posted two YouTube videos of the Baeofeng UV-3R being used for
> > satellite work. I would suspect performance of the UV-X4 to be
> > similar in nature. AC0RA and I have made a few "Baofeng to Baofeng"
> > contacts to test the performance on several of the LEO FM satellites.
> > Timing and antenna orientation is key and I would recommend two the
> > radios be used for full-duplex, as in your suggestion Tom.
> >
> > Here's a video of receiving AO-27 using the stock rubber duck:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYZyC_vkew0
> >
> > here's a video of receiving AO-51 using an Arrow:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRN4uJXvnK0
> >
> > (I did make a contact on this AO-51 pass, though I wouldn't recommend
> > it because of the semi-duplex limitation)
> >
> > 73,
> > Clayton
> > W5PFG
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> >> This may have been discussed previously but just in case it has not.
> >>
> >> I purchased an interesting radio that might be an inexpensive way to
> >> operate full duplex on the FM sats.
> >> The radio cost $65 including shipping and all accessories. It runs 2W on
> >> both 2M and 70cm. It has
> >> almost all the bells and whistles you would expect on a dual band
> handi. 99
> >> memories - tone squelch ...
> >>
> >> In addition to the low cost the radio is very small. See pic - I have
> >> fairly normal size hands so you can see how
> >> small it is.
> >>
> >> http://www.tomdoyle.org/UV-X4.jpg
> >>
> >> I purchased it expecting the worst. Much to my surprise it actually
> works
> >> quite well. The menu system is
> >> the most intuitive I have found on any radio. The only negatives I could
> >> find were
> >>
> >> - no channel lockout when scanning - I put the local weather station in
> one
> >> of the memories.
> >> Since it is always on you can not use the scan function.
> >>
> >> - I fully expected a radio of such a small size would not have adequate
> >> sound from the speaker.
> >> In fact the sound from the speaker is really loud. Everything is set
> >> using a rotary digital switch
> >> with detents. This works great for selecting channels and using the
> menu
> >> functions. There are
> >> only 9 detent positions for the volume. The lowest volume setting is
> >> mute, one click up and it is
> >> loud and it keeps getting louder as you go up. There was nothing wrong
> >> with my radio - they
> >> all do it.
> >>
> >> - no DTMF pad
> >>
> >> None of these negatives affect the use of the radio with an FM sat. You
> >> could buy a pair of these
> >> for $130 including shipping. Add a diplexer and Elk/Arrow antenna and George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message ----
> From: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 11:49:11 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
>
> Excellent idea and post, Tom.
>
> I have posted two YouTube videos of the Baeofeng UV-3R being used for
> satellite work. I would suspect performance of the UV-X4 to be
> similar in nature. AC0RA and I have made a few "Baofeng to Baofeng"
> contacts to test the performance on several of the LEO FM satellites.
> Timing and antenna orientation is key and I would recommend two the
> radios be used for full-duplex, as in your suggestion Tom.
>
> Here's a video of receiving AO-27 using the stock rubber duck:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYZyC_vkew0
>
> here's a video of receiving AO-51 using an Arrow:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRN4uJXvnK0
>
> (I did make a contact on this AO-51 pass, though I wouldn't recommend
> it because of the semi-duplex limitation)
>
> 73,
> Clayton
> W5PFG
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:40:25 -0600
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
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You might want to take a quick look at the posting that started this
thread.
73 W9KE tom ...
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM, George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Main drawback appears to be that they are not full duplex... but at those
> prices, why not buy TWO?
>
>
> George, KA3HSW
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
> > To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
> > Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> > Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 11:49:11 AM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
> >
> > Excellent idea and post, Tom.
> >
> > I have posted two YouTube videos of the Baeofeng UV-3R being used for
> > satellite work. I would suspect performance of the UV-X4 to be
> > similar in nature. AC0RA and I have made a few "Baofeng to Baofeng"
> > contacts to test the performance on several of the LEO FM satellites.
> > Timing and antenna orientation is key and I would recommend two the
> > radios be used for full-duplex, as in your suggestion Tom.
> >
> > Here's a video of receiving AO-27 using the stock rubber duck:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYZyC_vkew0
> >
> > here's a video of receiving AO-51 using an Arrow:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRN4uJXvnK0
> >
> > (I did make a contact on this AO-51 pass, though I wouldn't recommendns expressed are those of the author.
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--
Sent from my computer.
tom ...
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:45:54 -0800 (PST)
From: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
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Hmmm... the review on QRZ says they're not full duplex. Guess they actually
ARE.
Oops. My bad.
>
>From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
>To: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
>Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 1:40:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
>
>You might want to take a quick look at the posting that started this thread.
>
>73 W9KE tom ...
>
>
>On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM, George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>Main drawback appears to be that they are not full duplex... but at those
>>prices, why not buy TWO?
>>
>>
>>George, KA3HSW
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
>>> Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 11:49:11 AM
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Very Interesting Radio - Possible Sat Use
>>>
>>> Excellent idea and post, Tom.
>>>
>>> I have posted two YouTube videos of the Baeofeng UV-3R being used for
>>> satellite work. I would suspect performance of the UV-X4 to be
>>> similar in nature. AC0RA and I have made a few "Baofeng to Baofeng"
>>> contacts to test the performance on several of the LEO FM satellites.
>>> Timing and antenna orientation is key and I would recommend two the
>>> radios be used for full-duplex, as in your suggestion Tom.
>>>
>>> Here's a video of receiving AO-27 using the stock rubber duck:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYZyC_vkew0
>>>
>>> here's a video of receiving AO-51 using an Arrow:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRN4uJXvnK0
>>>
>>> (I did make a contact on this AO-51 pass, though I wouldn't recommend
>>> it because of the semi-duplex limitation)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Clayton
>>> W5PFG
>>_______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
>--
>
>Sent from my computer.
>
>tom ...
>
>
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