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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: ARISSat-1 Die Hards (Bob- W7LRD)
   2. Palm Springs HamFest 01/28/12 (Clint Bradford)
   3. Re: ARISSat-1 Die Hards (Andrew Glasbrenner)
   4. Re: ARISSat-1 Die Hards (Bob- W7LRD)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:47:41 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 Die Hards
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These potential ARRisats don't even have to be as sophisticated as the
last.? A simple 16-20khz linear transponder (from http://www.qsl.net/pe1rah/
)?or a simple single channel FM bird.? One or two of these every six months
or so would keep us happy campers!? Maybe even one with L/S mode.? The mind
runs wild!? I am sure it takes a just short of an act of congress to work
through the logistics and process.? However with a well defined process in
place, and necessary hoops already resolved.? Just set up the assembly
line..? As Bill O"Reilly says, "I' m a? simple man".? We have some very
smart people who are involved with Universities, launch vendors and the
like.? A bird could have a "gizzmo"?that?would ?have? ?what a ?univ ersity
wants to accomplish (with added transponder) .? I always subscribe to the
KISS (keep it simple stupid) principle .? This entire concept "appears"
simple enough, however the devil is in the details, which is why we have
smart people in charge.

73 Bob W7LRD?



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From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 3:01:24 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 Die Hards

--- On Sat, 7/1/12, Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > Couldn't we have a "ARISSat-1-2-3 etc. sitting on the
> > shelf and everytime they send up a supply/crew change bring
> > another ARISSat.? Then throw it out whenever available.?
>
> I keep saying this over and over but no-one has taken me
> seriously yet ;-)

But there is already another ARISSat on the ground in Russia, two were
shipped, also two engineering versions in the States.

However, someone has to pay what must be in excess of $150,000 to get the
sat to the ISS and then get half an hour of very valuable EVA time to deploy
it.

The Japanese Experiment Module Remote Manipulator System on the ISS Kibo
module will be able to deploy CubeSats from the ISS without the need for a
very expensive EVA. As I recall there are several amateur radio CubeSats
slated for deployment by the Kibo Robot Arm later this year, see

CubeSat to use 5.8 GHz and Optical Comms
http://www.uk.amsat.org/2037

73 Trevor M5AKA


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:09:47 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Palm Springs HamFest 01/28/12
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AMSAT area coordination Clint Bradford K6LCS will again be
attending and demonstrating working ham satellites with minimal
equipment at the third annual Desert Radio Amateur Transmitting
Society's HamFest on Saturday, January 28, 2012.

"Although we have recently lost two FM ham satellites - AO-51 and
ARISSat-1 - we still have "easy birds" of AO-27, SO-50, and the
ISS to work with minimal equipment," Clint reports.

"We have tentative passes of AO-27 and SO-50 in the afternoon
to work during the Hamfest."

If you are interested in working one of these passes with Clint,
download his four-page tutorial with frequency tables at ...

http://www.work-sat.com

Clint will have info at his table on working the satellites with just your
handheld radio, as well as info about the upcoming ARISS project in
April: students at Riverside's Flabob Airport are gearing up to speak
with an astronaut aboard the ISS.

Hamfest Web site: http://desertrats.am

/end/


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:07:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 Die Hards
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-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>? We have some very smart people who are involved with Universities, launch
vendors and the like.? A bird could have a "gizzmo"?that?would ?have? >?what
a ?univ ersity wants to accomplish (with added transponder) .?

You just described Fox-1, and we are building four of them. So far we have
an experiment for one, and have applied for a free launch from NASA. We find
out January 30th if we get it, then it's a race to finish and test the
satellite in time (and pay for it).

Rides to orbit are much easier to find for 1kg cubes, than for 50kg ones.

73, Drew KO4MA





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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:54:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 Die Hards
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Thanks Drew...I assume these are rides other than crew/cargo trips to the
ISS.? With a "little box" going to the ISS as someone said, "Kibo module
will be able to deploy CubeSats from the ISS without the need for a very
expensive EVA".? We could have "pre approved boxes" sitting the the shelf
just waiting for the next trip.
73 Bob W7LRD


----- Original Message -----

From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 11:07:38 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 Die Hards




-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>? We have some very smart people who are involved with Universities, launch
vendors and the like.? A bird could have a "gizzmo"?that?would ?have? >?what
a ?univ ersity wants to accomplish (with added transponder) .?

You just described Fox-1, and we are building four of them. So far we have
an experiment for one, and have applied for a free launch from NASA. We find
out January 30th if we get it, then it's a race to finish and test the
satellite in time (and pay for it).

Rides to orbit are much easier to find for 1kg cubes, than for 50kg ones.

73, Drew KO4MA




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