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Today's Topics:
1. Re: More AO-7 log. (Alan)
2. SPACE RETRANSMISSIONS/SHUTTLE (Mr Jeffrey L Ross)
3. fo-29 (CE3SOC Raul Romero)
4. Re: Good ideas for the AO-7 log. (Auke de Jong)
5. I have an order to place.... (David Donaldson)
6. BAD DAY (David Donaldson)
7. Tongue-in-cheek. (John Hackett)
8. Re: [eu-amsat] Re: Good ideas for the AO-7 log. (John Hackett)
9. Success: AO-51 Heard This Morning! (Kent R. Frazier)
10. Here It Is (Martha)
11. Re: Tongue-in-cheek. (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
12. Re: Success: AO-51 Heard This Morning! (Bill Dzurilla)
13. Re: Success: AO-51 Heard This Morning! (Kent R. Frazier)
14. Earlier Message (Martha)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:44:15 -0600
From: "Alan" <ve4yz(AT)mts.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: More AO-7 log.
To: "'Bill Dzurilla'" <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001c01c87e38$82ebf7f0$0602a8c0(AT)athlon>
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Hi Bill... thanks for your comments and I can see that if you have your
Favorites or Bookmarks pointing directly to the link you quoted how you are
interpreting the use of the log.
I'm not the "Keeper 'o the Log" but just added my 2 cents to this thread on
how we might address the issue raised by others that the QSO stats have
become meaningless. I'm not a Contester, Grid Square nor DX QSL collector
so I'm agnostic on the log us.
I suppose I must now offer another option for the "Keepers 'o the Code" and
that is to modify the logic used to tabulate the stats to exclude entries
with CQ or blank, but, keep them in the database as informational.
I hate it when I can see merits on both sides of the discussion. It's so
much easier to have it black or white rather being like an economist " on
the one hand XXXX, but, one the other hand YYYY " Now that I've insulted
all Ham/Economists on this list I will retire to the shack to play with my
toys.
73, Alan VE4YZ
EN19kw
AMSAT LM 2352
http://www.mts.net/~ve4wsc/
AMSAT A-485
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Bill Dzurilla
Sent: March 4, 2008 10:31 AM
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: More AO-7 log.
Alan,
>>Or, folks could just use common sense and read the
second sentence at the
top of the log - "IF YOU HAVE A CONTACT TO REPORT...."
Oh, we already
tried that and it didn't work...
Are we talking about the log at
http://www.planetemily.com/ao7/logentry.php ? I do not see the "If you have
a contact to report"
sentence. On my screen, it says, "Use this form to report contact with and
information about AO-7. It will be stored in our database and provided to
the control operators of AO-7. This information will not be used for any
other purpose other than to provide information about AO-7." The
"information about" line implies that more than just QSO info is welcome.
For the benefit of those not subscribed to this list, I suggest adding the
correct instructions directly on the Log Entry page, something like "Do not
enter CQ or anything else in the QSOs box unless you have actually completed
a two-way QSO."
Or are you saying not to make an entry at all unless a contact is completed?
I have been entering any time I could hear my downlink, even if no one
answered my CQ, based on the "even if it was to yourself" statement on the
web page.
I had been entering CQ until I saw this thread, so your posts were not
totally in vain.
73, Bill NZ5N
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:15:37 -0500
From: "Mr Jeffrey L Ross" <radiooperator(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SPACE RETRANSMISSIONS/SHUTTLE
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <00cb01c87e45$47ca69b0$6501a8c0(AT)hamshackcomputer>
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on your local repeater. hello all, anyone who has any info or happen to be
net controllers for this kind of net, please contact me off list. I would
like information on how your net runs and some do,s and don'ts. I am now in
the process of gaining permission from the repeater/club owners, and want to
supply them with a wrtten net before I go on the air for the March launch.
p.s this is only for a launch.
time maybe 15 mins.
These are some of the questions I will need answered.
1. should I use a repeater?
2. should I use simplex?
3. how often (if used on repeater do i break for emergency traffic? ideas
4. say shuttle launch: from 3 mins to liftoff, till when? ideas
thank you much in advance
please advise if you can, kc8gkf
West Michigan USA
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:24:08 -0300
From: "CE3SOC Raul Romero" <ce3soc(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] fo-29
To: "Amsat-Bb(AT)Amsat.Org" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001001c87e57$4c659780$0a00a8c0(AT)P42270MHZ>
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FO-29 is Working ??
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:57:08 -0700
From: Auke de Jong <sparkycivic(AT)shaw.ca>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Good ideas for the AO-7 log.
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <007a01c87e6c$9a1a1ef0$6400a8c0(AT)sparkys>
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reply-type=original
could the editing job be done by a volunteer group, to spread out the work?
Might also a log be generated and stored tracking all edits, in case of a
questionable action?
Auke
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hackett" <archie.hackett(AT)hotmail.com>
To: "Alan" <ve4yz(AT)mts.net>
Cc: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>; "Eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com"
<eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:12 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good ideas for the AO-7 log.
>
> Alan,
> A timely and intelligent mail - nice! one.
>
> I played at super dooper pooper scooper - (log cop) - for a couple of
> years but it was as you correctly percieved taking up too much of my time.
>
> I wused to be Emily's page administrator but since she disappeared into
> the burrow of 2nd Life and despite "millions" of 'carrots' - (read:
> e-mails) - I've lost contact with her.
>
> I do wish she'd pop her head out with a quick - "What's up Doc?".
>
> I'm now involved in other aspects of the Grand Old Lady ... AO-7, not
> N1DID.
>
> 73 John. <la2qaa(AT)amsat.org>
>
..............................................................................
...............
>
>> From: ve4yz(AT)mts.net
>> To: la2qaa(AT)amsat.org; sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr
>> CC: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org; eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] More AO-7 log.
>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:01:17 -0600
>>
>> Regrettably, there seems to be only a few ways of "Ham - Proofing " the
>> logging system.
>>
>> One would be to add some logic to the code for the form entry to prevent
>> submitting unless at least one of the QSO entries are completed. This
>> may
>> require diving into the rabbit hole to rescue Emily from her Second Life
>> and
>> nicely asking her to tweak the code. However, it would not prevent
>> entrants
>> from adding dummy info just to get a count.
>>
>> Another would be having a super user act as "log-cop" and zap bad
>> entries.
>> That may be perceived as badly as a "grammar cop" or "spelling cop" on
>> this
>> BB, and, who would want to waste that amount of time each day cleaning up
>> other's messes. But it could be mitigated if a warning line was added to
>> the
>> top of the table. "Invalid entries and empty QSOs will be deleted"
>>
>> Another that comes to mind would probably involve Emily and may actually
>> be
>> the easiest. The entire database could be conditioned occasionally.
>> Again
>> a super user could execute a single line SQL statement that purges all
>> entries where the QSO is blank or includes text such as "CQ". DELETE
>> FROM
>> table_name WHERE column_name = some_value. I'm ignorant of the db used
>> here
>> but hesitantly *assume* in might me MySQL or something similar.
>>
>> The SQL statement could even be automated in a chron process and executed
>> automatically each day.
>>
>> Or, folks could just use common sense and read the second sentence at the
>> top of the log - "IF YOU HAVE A CONTACT TO REPORT...." Oh, we already
>> tried that and it didn't work...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org]
On
>> Behalf Of John Hackett
>> Sent: March 4, 2008 2:17 AM
>> To: sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr
>> Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org; Eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] More AO-7 log.
>>
>>
>> Mak,
>> Despite our repeated requests ... yesterday ...
>>
>> W7AIT 15:49
>> W7AIT 15:50 ... (seperate QSO's)
>> PY4AJ CQ
>> VK4ZQ CQ
>>
>> Like I mentioned ... don't these people 'look' at what they write? ... or
>> note how those that fill in the log correctly do it? ... or even read the
>> Amsat mail?.
>>
>> What can one do?.
>>
>> Statistics are no use to man nor beast if they're incorrect - and over
>> the
>> first 3 months of this year there are enough errors to ensure that the
>> statistics *ARE* wrong ... agreed, they're only small mistakes and agreed
>> that - "it's only a hobby" - but what is the point in filling in the log
>> in
>> the first place if you're not going to do it correctly?.
>>
>> Having pointed out the errors once, twice and three times on both
>> bulletin
>> boards in the last 14 days I assumed that ought to be enough - obviously
>> it
>> wasn't ... so I don't know about you but I'm not going to bother anymore.
>>
>> Since the main "contenders" are English speaking one cannot blame the
>> language. The panes are clear enough and cannot be misconscrued. The hour
>> glass is self explanitory - you yourself have explained more than once
>> how
>> to fix things if they do occasionally go amok - (data is "data") - I'm
>> referring to the - 'remember me' - checkbox issue.
>>
>> It's a pity such a useful resource is allowed to become a mess.
>>
>> EOR ... (End of rant).
>>
>> 73 John. <la2qaa(AT)amsat.org>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:07:09 -0600 (CST)
From: "David Donaldson" <wb7dru(AT)usfamily.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] I have an order to place....
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <003d01c87e6e$14507a60$01fea8c0(AT)DAVEBEDROOM>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Martha:
Could you call me tomorrow? I have an order to place
612-720-0013
Thanks
Dave
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:22:18 -0600 (CST)
From: "David Donaldson" <wb7dru(AT)usfamily.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] BAD DAY
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
You ever had one of those days where you intentionally delete a recipient
and delete the wrong one......
I hate email...
73
Dave
Wb7DRU
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of David Donaldson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:18 PM
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] I have an order to place....
Martha:
Could you call me tomorrow? I have an order to place
612-720-0013
Thanks
Dave
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:44:43 +0100
From: John Hackett <archie.hackett(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tongue-in-cheek.
To: <allan_gm1sxx(AT)hotmail.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org, "Eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com"
<eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com>
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Oyez!,
I'd forgotten why it was I tended to avoid FM satellites like the
bubonic plague ... hey!, back off - I did have a QSO on AO-51 once and two !!!
on AO-27, 10 years ago.
Anyway, this morning I decided to see if things had changed so I fired up my
trusty (and otherwise totally useless) IC-E91 and 'arra' aerial ... OK !!!!,
antenna.
Stepping out into the 33.9cm of 'manna from heavan' (snow, to you!) I aimed my
pointed stick at the sky like any intellegent person would do (!) and tried
the age old tricks of ... portable ... JP33WB ... Frei Island ... (not all at
once of course).
After only a few minutes I 'remebered' ... it isn't the FM satellites that are
are fault ... though they are not the 'smartest' things for amateur radio
communications ... it's those operators who call without actually listening
who muck it all up.
What *is* the point of calling somebody while they're actually speaking to
somebody else ??? ... I'm so THICK I can't figure out how this works ... (on
FM) ... maybe somebody with a few more braincells would like to enlighten me
as to the theory behind this technique.
I'm quite familiar with 'tailending' while QRP operating but calling somebody
while they're speaking ... (on FM) ... I havn't figured out yet.
However ... "each to his own" ... and that's how it should be - but I'll stick
to LINEAR satellites thank you very much.
73 John. <la2qaa(AT)amsat.org>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:05:38 +0100
From: John Hackett <archie.hackett(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [eu-amsat] Re: Good ideas for the AO-7 log.
To: <eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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Igor,
A good idea but I'm not sure about eventual copyright issues.
I am the 'official' administrator of the AO-7 Resource Page Log but the
problem is - I cannot do anything without N1DID's -
(ex: W0EEC) - permission since she (exclusively) holds the original copyright.
The whole problem stems from the fact that N1DID "disappeared" into SECOND
LIFE and doesn't answer her mail.
My editing privilages which were normally renewed every 1st January with a
cookie - have been suspended due to the lack of contact with N1DID so there's
nothing I can do to edit the mistakes like I used to.
A pity, but such is the situation.
73 John. <la2qaa(AT)amsat.org>
To: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
From: rw3xl(AT)yandex.ru
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:36:19 +0000
Subject: [eu-amsat] Re: Good ideas for the AO-7 log.
Hello!
I have such offer.
Can be copy all data in new base and place it on other site?
Probably, that any part of data will be gone. But I think, that not
so much.
A question in the one who will write the program for work with this
base?
I could find a place with a suitable name (for example oscar7.net,
oscar7.org) and which support MYSQL and PHP4/5 :)
In this case becomes possible:
To find the new Administrator who will have full access to a site.
Count QSO/Points or any other position in the log, like we need (As
we shall explain to the Administrator), e.t.c.
It is necessary to do it on a noncommercial basis. I, for example,
can find a hosting.
--- In eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com, John Hackett <archie.hackett(AT)...>
wrote:
>
>
> Alan,
> A timely and intelligent mail - nice! one.
>
> I played at super dooper pooper scooper - (log cop) - for a couple
of years but it was as you correctly percieved taking up too much of
my time.
>
> I wused to be Emily's page administrator but since she disappeared
into the burrow of 2nd Life and despite "millions" of 'carrots' -
(read: e-mails) - I've lost contact with her.
>
> I do wish she'd pop her head out with a quick - "What's up Doc?".
>
> I'm now involved in other aspects of the Grand Old Lady ... AO-7,
not N1DID.
>
> 73 John. <la2qaa(AT)...>
> ....................................................................
.........................
>
> > From: ve4yz(AT)...
> > To: la2qaa(AT)...; sv1bsx(AT)...
> > CC: amsat-bb(AT)...; eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] More AO-7 log.
> > Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:01:17 -0600
> >
> > Regrettably, there seems to be only a few ways of "Ham -
Proofing " the
> > logging system.
> >
> > One would be to add some logic to the code for the form entry to
prevent
> > submitting unless at least one of the QSO entries are completed.
This may
> > require diving into the rabbit hole to rescue Emily from her
Second Life and
> > nicely asking her to tweak the code. However, it would not
prevent entrants
> > from adding dummy info just to get a count.
> >
> > Another would be having a super user act as "log-cop" and zap bad
entries.
> > That may be perceived as badly as a "grammar cop" or "spelling
cop" on this
> > BB, and, who would want to waste that amount of time each day
cleaning up
> > other's messes. But it could be mitigated if a warning line was
added to the
> > top of the table. "Invalid entries and empty QSOs will be
deleted"
> >
> > Another that comes to mind would probably involve Emily and may
actually be
> > the easiest. The entire database could be conditioned
occasionally. Again
> > a super user could execute a single line SQL statement that
purges all
> > entries where the QSO is blank or includes text such as "CQ".
DELETE FROM
> > table_name WHERE column_name = some_value. I'm ignorant of the db
used here
> > but hesitantly *assume* in might me MySQL or something similar.
> >
> > The SQL statement could even be automated in a chron process and
executed
> > automatically each day.
> >
> > Or, folks could just use common sense and read the second
sentence at the
> > top of the log - "IF YOU HAVE A CONTACT TO REPORT...." Oh, we
already
> > tried that and it didn't work...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)... [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)...] On
> > Behalf Of John Hackett
> > Sent: March 4, 2008 2:17 AM
> > To: sv1bsx(AT)...
> > Cc: amsat-bb(AT)...; Eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] More AO-7 log.
> >
> >
> > Mak,
> > Despite our repeated requests ... yesterday ...
> >
> > W7AIT 15:49
> > W7AIT 15:50 ... (seperate QSO's)
> > PY4AJ CQ
> > VK4ZQ CQ
> >
> > Like I mentioned ... don't these people 'look' at what they
write? ... or
> > note how those that fill in the log correctly do it? ... or even
read the
> > Amsat mail?.
> >
> > What can one do?.
> >
> > Statistics are no use to man nor beast if they're incorrect - and
over the
> > first 3 months of this year there are enough errors to ensure
that the
> > statistics *ARE* wrong ... agreed, they're only small mistakes
and agreed
> > that - "it's only a hobby" - but what is the point in filling in
the log in
> > the first place if you're not going to do it correctly?.
> >
> > Having pointed out the errors once, twice and three times on both
bulletin
> > boards in the last 14 days I assumed that ought to be enough -
obviously it
> > wasn't ... so I don't know about you but I'm not going to bother
anymore.
> >
> > Since the main "contenders" are English speaking one cannot blame
the
> > language. The panes are clear enough and cannot be misconscrued.
The hour
> > glass is self explanitory - you yourself have explained more than
once how
> > to fix things if they do occasionally go amok - (data is "data") -
I'm
> > referring to the - 'remember me' - checkbox issue.
> >
> > It's a pity such a useful resource is allowed to become a mess.
> >
> > EOR ... (End of rant).
> >
> > 73 John. <la2qaa(AT)...>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)... Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:31:27 -0600
From: "Kent R. Frazier" <k5knt(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Success: AO-51 Heard This Morning!
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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I missed the pass last night that I was planning on listening for due to
family commitments.
At approximately 14:02 UTC (08:02 CST this morning) I heard traffic on
435.310 MHz! Hooray, hooray, hooray! <grin>
I was en route to work, so I wasn't able to write anything down and I don't
yet have a recording device. As soon as I reached the parking lot at work
the buildings blocked the signal.
At least now I know I'm not going crazy. I was about ready to give up, but
this has renewed my determination. I have downloaded quite a lot of the
resources that have been suggested and I'll read them as time permits.
Thanks to all who have been helpful and replied both on and off this board.
If I haven't responded personally I still appreciate all of the help and
suggestions.
73,
Kent, K5KNT
--
Kent R. Frazier, K5KNT
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:23:04 -0500
From: Martha <martha(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Here It Is
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org, "Board of Directors" <bod(AT)amsat.org>,
officers(AT)amsat.org
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To answer many a query - Yes, we have a block of rooms. You can email or
call me with the following info:
name, daytime phone number, dates room needed, credit card number and
expiration date. We have 15 rooms Wednesday, 30 on Friday and 30 on
Saturday. Remember "if you snooze, you lose"!
--
73- Martha
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:41:27 -0700
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus(AT)mcn.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tongue-in-cheek.
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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At 10:44 AM 3/5/2008 +0100, la2qaa(AT)amsat.org wrote:
>Oyez!,
> I'd forgotten why it was I tended to avoid FM satellites like
> the bubonic plague ... hey!, back off - I did have a QSO on AO-51 once
> and two !!! on AO-27, 10 years ago.
>
>Anyway, this morning I decided to see if things had changed so I fired up
>my trusty (and otherwise totally useless) IC-E91 and 'arra' aerial ... OK
>!!!!, antenna.
>
>Stepping out into the 33.9cm of 'manna from heavan' (snow, to you!) I
>aimed my pointed stick at the sky like any intellegent person would do (!)
>and tried the age old tricks of ... portable ... JP33WB ... Frei Island
>... (not all at once of course).
>
>After only a few minutes I 'remebered' ... it isn't the FM satellites that
>are are fault ... though they are not the 'smartest' things for amateur
>radio communications ... it's those operators who call without actually
>listening who muck it all up.
>
>What *is* the point of calling somebody while they're actually speaking to
>somebody else ??? ... I'm so THICK I can't figure out how this works ...
>(on FM) ... maybe somebody with a few more braincells would like to
>enlighten me as to the theory behind this technique.
>
>I'm quite familiar with 'tailending' while QRP operating but calling
>somebody while they're speaking ... (on FM) ... I havn't figured out yet.
>
>However ... "each to his own" ... and that's how it should be - but I'll
>stick to LINEAR satellites thank you very much.
>
>73 John. <la2qaa(AT)amsat.org>
I'm the same way. Sometimes I'll listen to see who is on, but I haven't
sent any RF toward an FM bird in a long long time. Just patiently waiting
for the next P3 bird.
KB7ADL
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:55:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Success: AO-51 Heard This Morning!
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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Congrats, Kent, now hope to work you soon. What was
the problem? If best reception was at .310, your
receiver is probably a few khz off, which may have
been a factor. If it turns out that the driveway
location was bad, a simple ground plane on the roof
will get you going strong.
73, Bill NZ5N
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:10:07 -0600
From: "Kent R. Frazier" <k5knt(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Success: AO-51 Heard This Morning!
To: "Bill Dzurilla" <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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Hi Bill,
I have no idea what the problem might have been. I'm not thinking it is the
receiver at this point, but I don't know. I didn't have a chance to listen
to the entire pass, and what I heard was early in the pass, so I *think* the
.310 was ok.
When you say a simple ground plane, do you mean something like a mag-mount
1/4 wave? Sorry for what is probably such a novice question.
73, Kent K5KNT
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Congrats, Kent, now hope to work you soon. What was
> the problem? If best reception was at .310, your
> receiver is probably a few khz off, which may have
> been a factor. If it turns out that the driveway
> location was bad, a simple ground plane on the roof
> will get you going strong.
>
> 73, Bill NZ5N
>
>
>
>
______________________________________________________________________________
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> Looking for last minute shopping deals?
> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
>
--
Kent R. Frazier, K5KNT
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:48:40 -0500
From: Martha <martha(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Earlier Message
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org, "Board of Directors" <bod(AT)amsat.org>,
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To clarify my earlier message, the block of rooms I mentioned was for
Dayton. In addition, we have rooms blocked for Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
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73- Martha
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