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Today's Topics:
1. sats to support (Michael Hatzakis)
2. Re: Working SO-50 (PE0SAT)
3. Re: sats to support (g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: sats to support (Trevor .)
5. AO7 Contact Help (myles landstein)
6. Lets move forward (Frank Woolfe)
7. FO-69 (ryan woods)
8. Fwd: sats to support (g0mrf@xxx.xxxx
9. Re: Lets move forward (Doug Dietz)
10. Re: Lets move forward (Gordon JC Pearce)
11. Re: Lets move forward (John Becker)
12. Re: Lets move forward (Gordon JC Pearce)
13. Re: Lets move forward (Ted)
14. Re: Lets move forward (Michael Hatzakis)
15. Re: Lets move forward (Kevin Deane)
16. Re: Lets move forward (Michael Hatzakis)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:32:35 -0800
From: "Michael Hatzakis" <lists@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] sats to support
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Someone asked the question about which satellite projects to support with
donation dollars. Given my $$ investment in my satellite station, I would
also like to step up my donations to support new transponder-based sats.
With the recent loss of AO-51 and FO-29 and with only one SSB and one FM sat
left and AO-7 when it's working, I am feeling the loss of this part of my
hobby.
After the last post, I looked up FOX and the AMSAT presidential update; my
understanding is that FOX-1 is at least two years out, and after the project
split, FOX-1 will be a "quick" FM sat and FOX-2, a simpler, higher power
transponder based sat. Because of reducing resources and membership, FOX-2
is probably no less than 4+ years out. SwissCubesat is interesting, but
there are no ham freq projects in the pipeline here or at AMSAT-UK.
We all have our own personal preferences, and I still enjoy SO-50, but, I do
get a little restless not being able to have much of a QSO on one FM channel
with people jumping in and out and on top of each other. The technical
challenge of building tracking and high gain SSB antennas and pre-amp etc is
personally exciting for me...
I plan to support AMSAT and FOX, but I also prefer to find ways to vote with
my dollar to support a transponder-based sat. I am not sure how AMSAT made
the FM satellite decision, ie., was there an actual market needs analysis of
what members were more likely to support with their dollars...
I would appreciate someone giving an overview of what other sats are in the
pipeline, or, how I can show my $$ support for transponder-based projects?
Michael K3MH
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:58:41 +0100
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
To: "Ib Christoffersen" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Working SO-50
Message-ID: <20111204205841.A916E1A36B@xx.xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
Hi Ib,
Thanks for the information.
One thing I would like to add to the people that use HRD and a FT-847.
I tryed many times to work SO-50 but I am unable to do this with HRD.
When I want to make a QSO via SO-50 I allways have to use SatPC32.
I haven't figured out why CTCSS and HRD isn't working with SO-50.
73 Jan PE0SAT
On Sat, December 3, 2011 21:45, Ib Christoffersen wrote:
> Working SO-50.
>
> I think it is time to look at how one can operate over SO-50 and the
> problems that can be encountered.
>
> First the normal and nominal data:
>
> Uplink is at 145.850 MHz. Downlink at 436.795 MHz.
>
> If it is not ON - use 74.4 Hz CTCSS tone to activate the transmitter for
> 10
> seconds to have it on for nominally 10 minutes - when on use 67 Hz CTCSS
> tone during your transmission.
>
> That was the intended normal operation.
>
> Now to the deviations from the normal scheme.
>
> The downlink frequency sometimes jump approximately 5 kHz. Therefore I
> have
> two different frequencies pairs to be used in SATPC32:
>
> SO-50,436788.50,145849,FM,FM,NOR,0,0
> SO-50,436795,145850,FM,FM,NOR,0,0
>
> If you do not use Full Doppler Tracking it is not much of an issue. Just
> tune for best downlink.
>
> Talking about SATPC32 here are the entries for the CTCSS tone:
>
> SO-50,67.0,$3F,1
> SO-50,74.4,$3E,3
>
> The first data is for the ICOM IC-910 radio. If you use another radio
> please
> look at the information in SATPC32.
>
> Next problem is the change of polarity of the downlink signal during a
> pass.
> The polarity changes during the pass. At least I have to switch polarity a
> few times from RHCP to LHCP to optimize the downlink signal. That has been
> confirmed by others. How it works using linearly polarized antennas I do
> not
> know - but I think there will be some fading.
>
> And if that is not enough - at least here over Europe - we have to put up
> with QRM on the uplink from a lot of different sources like repeaters and
> people using our frequencies as cheap phone connections.
> The result of the QRM is that it sometimes is difficult to turn SO-50 on.
> Also the QRM may turn the transmitter off.
>
> And since the inclination is not sun synchronous we have to live with a
> steady change of pass times over the year.
>
> Some may think I am not a fan of SO-50. That is not the case. It is a very
> good satellite we got for free and it works very well.
> Already more people are using it over Europe after AO-51 is not with us
> any
> more. That just took a couple of days.
>
> 73 OZ1MY/Ib
>
--
With regards PE0SAT
Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:17:23 -0000
From: <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Michael Hatzakis" <lists@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: sats to support
Message-ID: <6B349D210ED740559AE6CCA0B6140052@xxxxxxx.xxxxx>
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Hi Michael,
If i may, can I point out that the FUNcube project is on track to provide
two linear U/V transponders in low earth orbit from two cubesats quite soon
now.
These transponders will have a dual purpose - educational outreach to
encourage school children to become interested in STEM subjects, during the
day, and the transponder function active during eclipse at at weekends etc.
I cannot yet confirm a precise launch date for these but hope that this will
be possible to do within the next month or so. Suffice it to say that it is
being planned that FUNcube-1 will launch in Q3 2012.
More news when it becomes available - in the meantime the www.funcube.org/uk
website gives some detailed info about the project.
best 73
Graham
G3VZV
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:17:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: sats to support
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<1323033470.43564.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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--- On Sun, 4/12/11, Michael Hatzakis <lists@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> but there are no ham freq projects in the pipeline here or at
> AMSAT-UK.
Hi Michael,
Don't forget the AMSAT-UK FUNcube-1 with a 435/145 MHz linear transponder or
UKube-1 which is flying FUNcube boards with a 435/145 MHz linear
transponder. Both aiming for a late 2012 launch.
http://www.funcube.org.uk/
http://www.uk.amsat.org/
AMSAT-ZL are doing great work in developing KiwiSat with a 435/145 linear
transponder I believe aiming for a 2012 launch
http://www.kiwisat.org/
AMSAT-SA have got two satellite projects under development, see pages 5
onwards of http://www.uk.amsat.org/on_193_final.pdf
and http://www.amsatsa.org.za/
AMSAT-NA's Fox-1 and Fox-2 projects both deserve support
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/fox/
and we all hope that AMSAT-DL are successful in obtaining a luanch
opportunity for P3-E
http://www.p3e-satellite.org/index.pl?lang=en_EN
There may well be others I've missed out.
I don't see that it matters which project you chose to donate to as long as
you support someone.
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:35:13 -0500
From: myles landstein <myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO7 Contact Help
Message-ID: <72E090BD-36C5-4B17-9AA4-C1965964FA4C@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi
Today at about 4pm/EST I worked someone on AO7.
I just couldn't make out whom it was, and it was my first time
actually making contact on a Linear bird.
IF the person who 'worked me' or anyone else that might have heard me,
could you please reply back and let me know?
thanks
N2EHG
Going to Dayton '12 It will get better with
more support!
Myles D Landstein
N2EHG
myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:31:25 +1030
From: "Frank Woolfe" <frankwoolfe@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lets move forward
Message-ID: <A78C9504A22D4AB0B7B578BD74BDD5EB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Unfortunately AO51 is gone, my thoughts are to get the P3E project moving
and the thing in the air so we all can continue to enjoy this facet of the
hobby; Can any one tell me what is the status of P3E? The web page appears
to be not updated for some time. So I guess for those of you that have stood
in their backyard and worked AO51 with a HT and a Arrow for many years what
was that worth to you? I know that there a many in Australia that have
hogged the thing let alone world wide, so how about putting your short arm
in your deep pocket and donating to the project, stop all this bickering and
move forward all this arguing that I've been reading is so counter
productive to the cause. Remember gentlemen it's just a Hobby.
Frank H Woolfe; Dip EE,VK5KV.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:17:58 -0800 (PST)
From: ryan woods <kd8atf@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-69
Message-ID:
<1323037078.59565.androidMobile@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Is their any luck with FO-69? im gonna try it here on the next pass with a
ft-817 and a tnc-x to a jpole...... If the jpole dont work ill use the arrow
Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 18:01:00 -0500 (EST)
From: g0mrf@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: sats to support
Message-ID: <8CE80EFB93B846A-1714-29505@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Next one ready to launch will probably be the AMSAT-UK 1U cubesat 'Funcube'
with a linear transponder.
Local to you will be Fox-1. Lets hope it qualifies for launch funding from
an educational grant.
Sadly the standard launch costs for P3E look to be impossible to fund, so we
need a goverenment to step in. Not sure the European economy will support
that as it has many problems at present.
Thanks
David
SwissCubesat is interesting, but
there are no ham freq projects in the pipeline here or at AMSAT-UK.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hatzakis <lists@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 20:46
Subject: [amsat-bb] sats to support
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 18:07:03 -0500
From: Doug Dietz <dcdietz@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Frank Woolfe <frankwoolfe@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
Message-ID: <A5BD67F2-1AD8-4F4E-9157-472E8F72E120@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I believe that the demise of ao-51 is a good thin for the forward movement
of satellite communication and would vote for no more fm birds
On Dec 4, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Frank Woolfe wrote:
> Unfortunately AO51 is gone, my thoughts are to get the P3E project moving
> and the thing in the air so we all can continue to enjoy this facet of the
> hobby; Can any one tell me what is the status of P3E? The web page appears
> to be not updated for some time. So I guess for those of you that have stood
> in their backyard and worked AO51 with a HT and a Arrow for many years what
> was that worth to you? I know that there a many in Australia that have
> hogged the thing let alone world wide, so how about putting your short arm
> in your deep pocket and donating to the project, stop all this bickering and
> move forward all this arguing that I've been reading is so counter
> productive to the cause. Remember gentlemen it's just a Hobby.
>
>
>
> Frank H Woolfe; Dip EE,VK5KV.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:33:11 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
Message-ID: <20111204233311.def51920.gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 18:07:03 -0500
Doug Dietz <dcdietz@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I believe that the demise of ao-51 is a good thin for the forward movement
of satellite communication and would vote for no more fm birds
Any particular reason? I tried the SSB sats, but they just plain weren't
fun to operate. I suppose if you want to humph around expensive, fragile
transceivers that require four hands to operate and still sound like an
angry duck in a tin outhouse, SSB has something going for it.
Leave SSB to the gallbladder brigade on 80m.
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:06:15 -0600
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20111204180332.02b84100@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 05:33 PM 12/4/2011, you wrote in part
>Leave SSB to the gallbladder brigade on 80m.
At the age of 66 (DEC 6th) I found that comment
very very offensive.
John, W0JAB
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 00:29:07 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
Message-ID: <20111205002907.7f6a1f5c.gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:06:15 -0600
John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> At 05:33 PM 12/4/2011, you wrote in part
>
> >Leave SSB to the gallbladder brigade on 80m.
>
> At the age of 66 (DEC 6th) I found that comment
> very very offensive.
>
> John, W0JAB
Well, I'm sorry you found it offensive. I wonder if you found it as
offensive as I find all the "FM sats are for idiot kids" remarks?
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:29:24 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'John Becker'" <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
Message-ID: <1F5FC2FB990347BF8824DAD4882B8597@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
That's right...
Gordon meant to say the 'Early Bird Special Brigade' on 80m
73, and everyone lighten up here for Pete's sake..its a stupid BB !!
Merry Christmas to all, even if you like FM sats
73, Ted, K7TRK
(VUCC Pending and most of it was on AO51, so there)
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of John Becker
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 4:06 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
At 05:33 PM 12/4/2011, you wrote in part
>Leave SSB to the gallbladder brigade on 80m.
At the age of 66 (DEC 6th) I found that comment
very very offensive.
John, W0JAB
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:55:28 -0800
From: "Michael Hatzakis" <lists@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
Message-ID: <4061C219B1574DBC926681738AFFF8B3@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Wow, I am taken aback by the magnitude of anger and animosity on the lists.
When did a hobby supposed to foster friendly, "amateur" communication become
such a serious topic in people lives? I personally disagree with this
viewpoint, but it's not important to me that I am willing to insult someone
over it... I can state my objection and why without an insult
Now health care reform, finance reform, the economy, now these are topics
that make me angry... but this IS ham radio, so I can't vent about these
topics....
michael
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 3:33 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 18:07:03 -0500
Doug Dietz <dcdietz@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I believe that the demise of ao-51 is a good thin for the forward movement
of satellite communication and would vote for no more fm birds
Any particular reason? I tried the SSB sats, but they just plain weren't
fun to operate. I suppose if you want to humph around expensive, fragile
transceivers that require four hands to operate and still sound like an
angry duck in a tin outhouse, SSB has something going for it.
Leave SSB to the gallbladder brigade on 80m.
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 17:58:12 -0800
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
Message-ID: <COL107-W50AAEC04D5AE8415C9E69783B50@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I thought there were some good posts lately, working SO-50 and VO-52...
Now the politics dont think I will go there...
Kevin
KF7MYK
> From: lists@xxxxxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:55:28 -0800
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
>
> Wow, I am taken aback by the magnitude of anger and animosity on the lists.
> When did a hobby supposed to foster friendly, "amateur" communication become
> such a serious topic in people lives? I personally disagree with this
> viewpoint, but it's not important to me that I am willing to insult someone
> over it... I can state my objection and why without an insult
>
> Now health care reform, finance reform, the economy, now these are topics
> that make me angry... but this IS ham radio, so I can't vent about these
> topics....
>
> michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 3:33 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
>
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 18:07:03 -0500
> Doug Dietz <dcdietz@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > I believe that the demise of ao-51 is a good thin for the forward movement
> of satellite communication and would vote for no more fm birds
>
> Any particular reason? I tried the SSB sats, but they just plain weren't
> fun to operate. I suppose if you want to humph around expensive, fragile
> transceivers that require four hands to operate and still sound like an
> angry duck in a tin outhouse, SSB has something going for it.
>
> Leave SSB to the gallbladder brigade on 80m.
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:12:04 -0800
From: "Michael Hatzakis" <lists@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
Message-ID: <003B7F7A2D3840DCBBEDBC2CB74D9A45@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Thank you for the many great posts in response to my request for an overview
of sats in the pipeline; very helpful info on FunSat, P3E and FOX.
At the end of the day, strong opinions we put in these posts, no-matter how
passionate or convincing they are, aren't being counted by anyone.
The only votes that count are the ones that have dollars next to them.
AMSAT-xx will only launch sats with funding. If you disagree and feel that
SSB is a waste of time, and want FM sats to flourish, then outvote others
with your dollars, not flames. I posted this thread because I plan to make
my vote count.
So if its $5 or $50 or $500, and you feel strongly enough to post, then stop
typing, get out your paypal or credit card, and make your opinion count,
otherwise, this is all wasted virtual hot air.
Michael K3MH
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Kevin Deane
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 5:58 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
I thought there were some good posts lately, working SO-50 and VO-52...
Now the politics dont think I will go there...
Kevin
KF7MYK
> From: lists@xxxxxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 16:55:28 -0800
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
>
> Wow, I am taken aback by the magnitude of anger and animosity on the
lists.
> When did a hobby supposed to foster friendly, "amateur" communication
become
> such a serious topic in people lives? I personally disagree with this
> viewpoint, but it's not important to me that I am willing to insult
someone
> over it... I can state my objection and why without an insult
>
> Now health care reform, finance reform, the economy, now these are topics
> that make me angry... but this IS ham radio, so I can't vent about these
> topics....
>
> michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 3:33 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
>
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 18:07:03 -0500
> Doug Dietz <dcdietz@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > I believe that the demise of ao-51 is a good thin for the forward
movement
> of satellite communication and would vote for no more fm birds
>
> Any particular reason? I tried the SSB sats, but they just plain weren't
> fun to operate. I suppose if you want to humph around expensive, fragile
> transceivers that require four hands to operate and still sound like an
> angry duck in a tin outhouse, SSB has something going for it.
>
> Leave SSB to the gallbladder brigade on 80m.
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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