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Today's Topics:
1. Re: OSCAR Acronym? (STeve Andre')
2. Re: OSCAR or not OSCAR ? (John)
3. Re: OSCAR or not OSCAR ? (Colin Hurst)
4. Re: LVB tracker (Stefano Simonetti)
5. Streaming Video Coverage of Soyuz Launch Sunday Evening
(JoAnne Maenpaa)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:34:10 -0500
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR Acronym?
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On 11/12/11 21:49, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>> ... "OSCAR" stands for Orbital Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio ...
> Why was it changed to "OrbitING Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio?"
>
> Did "Orbital" just sound too geeky for the masses?
>
> YES - the early citations from the 1960s had it as "Orbital."
>
> WHO changed it to "Orbiting" ???
>
I don't think it was "changed" so much as someone used a
different word. The words orbital and orbiting are very
close to each other. So close that I'll bet most people would
not readily discern the difference.
I learned it with orbital. I'd probably use that if talking with
people, but hardly think that orbiting is bad.
So use either. Orbital is better--or more historically accurate--
but not worth fights over (not implying you were thinking that).
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf en72
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:40:55 -0600
From: John <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR or not OSCAR ?
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Not to mention the cost of launch to HEO. No one with the capability is
giving it away or discounting it.
John
Sent from my iPod
On Nov 12, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Thanks,
>
> Cubesats working within the amateur radio frequency spectrum are
> commanded by licensed ham radio operators with the same rights and
> requirements as all of us. Many of them use the frequencies to
> downlink vital satellite information as well as scientific experiment
> data. All of this is well within the amateur radio service rules and a
> very positive contribution by our community to science and education.
> Your question are valid and they need to be addressed in a
> constructive, supportive environment where the community works
> together. I would encourage you attend one or more of the many annual
> cubists conferences and engage these folks. You certainly have enough
> to offer!
>
> Now having said that, cubesats are a wonderful addition, not a threat
> and show the diversity of our community. I am always amazed by the
> ignorance displayed and self-proclaimed expert label used by some as
> an argument to deny parts of our community their right to use small
> satellites with amateur radio on board. Interestingly, none of the
> amateur radio operators working with cubesats have ever argued against
> HEOs or denied the rest of us that right by questioning how and why we
> use the spectrum!
>
> Fortunately, AMSAT NA and AMSAT UK and many others have recognized the
> potential and the inclusiveness of the community.
>
> Enough said,
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:34 PM, William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Hi Stefan,
>>
>> So the answer on my question if my 433MHz toy car, when I put it into
space, can get an OSCAR number is YES!
>> According to the AMSAT website you mentioned of course... :-P
>> - My question was not specific if these satellites can or can't get an
OSCAR number.
>> My intention was more if they should be scheduled as a ham-sat (and with
that using ham frequencies).
>>
>> I would recommend you to read the following IARU website!
>> http://www.iaru.org/satellite/prospective.html
>> (especially section VI. OPERATIONAL GUIDELINES)
>> It says the following:
>>
>> "Organisations building satellites should compare their mission plans to
>> the requirements of the amateur-satellite service. Then, they should
>> determine if it is possible to comply with the requirements of the
>> amateur-satellite service or if licensing and operation should be in
>> some other radio service which is more consistent with the nature and
>> requirements of the mission.
>>
>> A. The purposes of an amateur satellite should be:
>> (1) To provide communication resources for the general amateur radio
community and/or
>> (2) To conduct technical investigations in all respects consistent with
the Radio Regulations. [See RR S1.56 and RR S1.57.]"
>>
>> I have great doubts with many off those CubeSats, if they comply to
number (1)....
>> The only communication resources they provide is for themselves by a
cheap downlink system, by using hams to receive data for them. This is not
for the general amateur radio community as mentioned in number (1)...
>>
>> The option they have is to go to "some other radio service which is more
consistent with the nature and requirements of the mission."
>>
>> 73 de PE1RAH, William
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Would recommend reading the info on AMSAT's website!
>>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/amsat-na/oscar.html >
>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:56:17 +1030
From: "Colin Hurst" <cjhurst@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: "'Stefan Wagener'" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>, "'William Leijenaar'"
<pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR or not OSCAR ?
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Stefan,
I wholeheartedly support your comments.
We made a conscious decision many years ago, that in retirement, we would
support the Cubesat Program by downloading their telemetry, to give
something back to the hobby.
Being licensed nigh on 50 years ago and being part of the Amateur Satellite
Service for most of those, I would like to think that these young Cubesat
designers may become the Amateur Satellite builders of the future, but I
doubt I that may be around to reap their rewards. Then again I have been
mistaken before.
Personally I do not care if a satellite has an OSCAR moniker, we just
download whatever telemetry is available from the current Cubesat satellites
to assist them in their ongoing analyses.
This is not the first time this has been raised, as I remember a few years
back, Bob Bruninga raising the topic in respect to one of the satellites he
was involved in.
Best regards,
Colin VK5HI.
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stefan Wagener
Sent: Sunday, 13 November 2011 13:14
To: William Leijenaar
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR or not OSCAR ?
Thanks,
Cubesats working within the amateur radio frequency spectrum are commanded
by licensed ham radio operators with the same rights and requirements as all
of us. Many of them use the frequencies to downlink vital satellite
information as well as scientific experiment data. All of this is well
within the amateur radio service rules and a very positive contribution by
our community to science and education.
Your question are valid and they need to be addressed in a constructive,
supportive environment where the community works together. I would encourage
you attend one or more of the many annual cubists conferences and engage
these folks. You certainly have enough to offer!
Now having said that, cubesats are a wonderful addition, not a threat and
show the diversity of our community. I am always amazed by the ignorance
displayed and self-proclaimed expert label used by some as an argument to
deny parts of our community their right to use small satellites with amateur
radio on board. Interestingly, none of the amateur radio operators working
with cubesats have ever argued against HEOs or denied the rest of us that
right by questioning how and why we use the spectrum!
Fortunately, AMSAT NA and AMSAT UK and many others have recognized the
potential and the inclusiveness of the community.
Enough said,
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:34 PM, William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
>
> So the answer on my question if my 433MHz toy car, when I put it into
space, can get an OSCAR number is YES!
> According to the AMSAT website you mentioned of course... :-P
> - My question was not specific if these satellites can or can't get an
OSCAR number.
> My intention was more if they should be scheduled as a ham-sat (and with
that using ham frequencies).
>
> I would recommend you to read the following IARU website!
> http://www.iaru.org/satellite/prospective.html
> (especially section VI. OPERATIONAL GUIDELINES) It says the following:
>
> "Organisations building satellites should compare their mission plans
> to the requirements of the amateur-satellite service. Then, they
> should determine if it is possible to comply with the requirements of
> the amateur-satellite service or if licensing and operation should be
> in some other radio service which is more consistent with the nature
> and requirements of the mission.
>
> A. The purposes of an amateur satellite should be:
> (1) To provide communication resources for the general amateur radio
> community and/or
> (2) To conduct technical investigations in all respects consistent with
the Radio Regulations. [See RR S1.56 and RR S1.57.]"
>
> I have great doubts with many off those CubeSats, if they comply to number
(1)....
> The only communication resources they provide is for themselves by a cheap
downlink system, by using hams to receive data for them. This is not for the
general amateur radio community as mentioned in number (1)...
>
> The option they have is to go to "some other radio service which is more
consistent with the nature and requirements of the mission."
>
> 73 de PE1RAH, William
>
>
>
>
>>Would recommend reading the info on AMSAT's website!
>> >http://www.amsat.org/amsat/amsat-na/oscar.html >
>>Stefan, VE4NSA
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:20:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: Stefano Simonetti <iw1rdz@xxxxx.xx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LVB tracker
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Hello, I don't know if it could help, anyway,?I had problems until I directy
programmed the pic in circuit, following the instructions on the web site.
(I used a prototype?board, not the official PCB).?
73, Steve
?
________________________________
Da: Yanko P. Yankov <samy_b1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
A: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Inviato: Gioved? 10 Novembre 2011 19:51
Oggetto: [amsat-bb] LVB tracker
Hello,
I'm having problems with my LVB tracker project. After successful programing
on the pic (16F876A), I'm not getting any response via Hyperterminal and
there is no text on the LCD display. I have HDR1 jumper in run and HDR2 in
off .
Can some one help me troubleshoot or provide any tips ?
Thank you,
Yanko NX9G
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:04:58 -0600
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Streaming Video Coverage of Soyuz Launch Sunday
Evening
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The Russian Soyuz spacecraft carrying two cosmonauts and a NASA astronaut
scheduled for launch tonight for a flight to the International Space
Station.
LAUNCH UPDATES AND STREAMING VIDEO:
http://spaceflightnow.com/station/exp29/status.html
Video coverage begins at 2145 EST (0245Z) tonight. Liftoff scheduled for
2314 EST (0414Z) tonight.
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
Editor, AMSAT News Service
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