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Today's Topics:
1. Monday Night NASA! (Clint Bradford)
2. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (i8cvs)
3. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (jmfranke)
4. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (Gordon JC Pearce)
5. Re info (i8cvs)
6. Re: There's no usable satellites (William Leijenaar)
7. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (i8cvs)
8. ao-7 website (Bob- W7LRD)
9. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (Peter Guelzow)
10. Re: ao-7 website (Jeffrey Koehler)
11. N5BO (KE4KOL)
12. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (Dave Guimont)
13. Satellite Demonstration (Hector L Martinez, CO6CBF)
14. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (David Johnson)
15. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
16. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (i8cvs)
17. Fw: NY SATELLITE SPECIAL EVENT STATION (Peter Portanova)
18. Re: Satellite Demonstration (Raidel Abreu Espinet)
19. 5 in EM55 (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
20. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (KE7OSN)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:35:40 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Monday Night NASA!
Message-ID: <5D40BDF9-3B81-4C5F-9FB3-7715C79C86A3@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES TO HONOR NASA ASTRONAUT CHRIS
FERGUSON DURING MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL NOV. 7
HOUSTON -- NASA astronaut Chris Ferguson will return to his hometown
on Nov. 7 to serve as the Philadelphia Eagles' Honorary Captain
during the NFL's "Monday Night Football" game. The Eagles are hosting
the Chicago Bears at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia,
beginning at 8:30 p.m. EDT.
Ferguson will be recognized on the field for his dedication to
America's space program and his leadership commanding the final
flight of space shuttle Atlantis. The 13-day mission marked the end
of the shuttle program's 30-year legacy with Atlantis' touchdown on
July 21, 2011.
Ferguson, who joined the astronaut corps in August 1998, is visiting
Philadelphia to spread NASA's message about the importance of space
research and exploration. Before the game, Ferguson will visit the
Please Touch Museum from 1 to 2:30 p.m. While at the children's
museum he will participate in story time and sign autographs.
To schedule an interview or for more information about Ferguson's
appearances in Philadelphia, contact Tammie Letroise-Brown at
281-483-4942 or tammie.r.letroise-brown@xxxx.xxx.
For more about NASA and its programs, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov
For complete biographical information on Ferguson and other astronaut
information, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/astronauts
-end-
Clint Bradford
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:02:47 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Armando Mercado" <am25544@xxxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <001b01cc9808$0fb237c0$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Armando Mercado" <am25544@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
> Greetings,
>
> Well, how would we feel if USSTRATCOM started
> charging for the use of their data that we use to
> track our satellites?
>
> Also, using your amateur station for monetrary
> gain, even if it is for a not for profit organization,
> seems problematical.
>
> Help if you want, don't if you don't.
>
> Simple enough.
>
> 73, Armando N8IGJ
>
>
Hi Armando, N8IGJ
If USSTRATCOM started charging for the use of their
data that we use to track our satellites we can dowload
keps from CelesTrack free for all on internet.
http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:17:52 -0400
From: "jmfranke" <jmfranke@xxx.xxx>
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <5F33D9D209AA496D8491EC100F639D8B@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
To paraphrase Yoda in Star Wars:
Whine not. Do. Or do not. There is no whine.
John WA4WDL
--------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Help if you want, don't if you don't.
>>
>> Simple enough.
>>
>> 73, Armando N8IGJ
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:46:18 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <20111031204618.f03c7ca7.gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:02:47 +0100
"i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
> If USSTRATCOM started charging for the use of their
> data that we use to track our satellites we can dowload
> keps from CelesTrack free for all on internet.
And Celestrak get them from... ?
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:32:18 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re info
Message-ID: <000001cc9814$e8467040$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Hi Peter, NH6VB
I have sent to you an email and two pictures but it bounced back to me.
Do you have another email address ?
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:23:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: There's no usable satellites
Message-ID:
<1320099810.32816.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi Andras,
I totaly agree with your point.
To turn the "rudder" a little bit more into ham radio dx direction I
designed several years ago a small CubeSat sized linear transponder.
(Just google "LE005-R2" and you will find it).
The idea was to make it off the shelve available for the Cubes, as it is
quiet complex to design for students.
Surprisingly the interrest from these Cube groups was/is very very low.
(Most requests are from privat hams ! for using it on a mountains or balloon).
CubeSat groups seem to prefer FM, AX25, and not to much difficult ssb stuff
they can not use and test themselves.
Most of these small sats are under the name off education, but in the
background a huge business sector is available (just google "Cubesat shop"
and enjoy).
Because of this I believe the AMSATs none-profit status is a huge
disadvantage, and it is very hard to get a HEO into orbit.
AMSAT should have kept the RF payload (of a big satellite), and give away
some spaces to universities, sharing the ham radio payload.
Now the spaces are given away as separate small boxes (cubesats) that all
have similar RF systems (FM and 1k2/9k6 AX25).
Why not assemble the cubes all together as one big satellite, where AMSAT
provides the common digital download payload + some extra linear transponder
???
In this way there is more space for university experiments, and the RF is
done by people who have many experience in amateurs satellite radios.
But best of all is that we have our own payload added. (Some less
frequencies then AO40 but possibly in a MEO/HEO).
Just an idea,
73 de PE1RAH, William Leijenaar
> Gentlemen,
>
> I have spent too much money on an FT-847!
>
> I had better to buy a well equipped HF transceiver instead!
>
> There is practically no usable satellites -except for AO-7 and VO-52.
>
> The problem is that you can find always the same stations on them.
>
> F2IL is in my log about 300 times...
>
> Spending money on FM satellites were made according to long term plans
> of IARU, ARRL and AMSAT which had been a dream of
> handling emergency traffic using hand-held equipment and antenna -as far
> as I know.
>
> Satellite activity is seriously declining!
>
> gl de ha6nn
> Andras
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:31:00 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Gordon JC Pearce" <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <000901cc981c$c4d98e00$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon JC Pearce" <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:46 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:02:47 +0100
> "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
>
>
> > If USSTRATCOM started charging for the use of their
> > data that we use to track our satellites we can dowload
> > keps from CelesTrack free for all on internet.
>
> And Celestrak get them from... ?
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Hi Gordon,
If USSTRATCOM will charge for keps all Commercial and
Scientific satellite users including the Amateur Satellite user
than we will forced to pay for that keps and no way to do
different but it is unlikely and as far I remember it never happen
before.
Actually all keps for Commercial and Scientific satellites as
well the Amateur Satellites are available for free on internet
from CelesTrack
http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:43:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ao-7 website
Message-ID:
<945708805.1458949.1320104628170.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
What is that other web site where we can keep track of what mode AO-7 is
curren tly in? ? Having senior moments and can't keep track of it.
73 Bob W7LRD
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:52:00 +0100
From: Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <4EAF34A0.3050300@xxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 31.10.2011 21:17, jmfranke wrote:
> To paraphrase Yoda in Star Wars:
>
> Whine not. Do. Or do not. There is no whine.
>
> John WA4WDL
or just do it yourself....
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/123.html
Sorry - I could not resist.. old AMSAT technology, almost forgotten
by most people...
73s
Peter DB2OS
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:59:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeffrey Koehler <jeffk13057@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
<w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ao-7 website
Message-ID:
<1320105588.36747.androidMobile@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Bob:
http://oscar.dcarr.org/
73 Jeff WB2SYK
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:53:27 -0400
From: "KE4KOL" <ke4kol@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] N5BO
Message-ID: <A562FE99B69441F6A8FCEB914E63D130@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Anyone have a valid address or email for N5BO. Sent a card and it bounce.
Email on QRZ is not valid.
Thanks,
Jim Bennett
KE4KOL
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:45:24 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <11.31.12951.0697FAE4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Very good, Peter, I was hoping we could get Jim to chime in!!
73 Dave
>On 31.10.2011 21:17, jmfranke wrote:
> > To paraphrase Yoda in Star Wars:
> >
> > Whine not. Do. Or do not. There is no whine.
> >
> > John WA4WDL
>
>or just do it yourself....
>
>http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/123.html
>
>Sorry - I could not resist.. old AMSAT technology, almost forgotten
>by most people...
>
>73s
>Peter DB2OS
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:36:59 -0400
From: "Hector L Martinez, CO6CBF" <co6cbf@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Demonstration
Message-ID: <000001cc984f$e9bb8240$bd3286c0$@xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello Guys
Today, I will be giving a Satellite demonstration portable from the sea walk
of my city (Cienfuegos in EL92). We will try to receive the ARISSat-1 FM
signal and operate on the AO-27 pass around 1838utc. A lot of students,
teachers and amateur radio enthusiast will attend the demo.
If you work me please give a shout out to the people and your QTH (city,
state).
Thanks and 73!
Hector, CO6CBF
EL92
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:56:37 +0000
From: David Johnson <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <4716149316826151323@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Good to see the AMSAT educational papers being mentioned again.
I'm using James' 'Sun's Up' paper to model illumination for my FUNcube
Orbital model.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/112.html
Regards
Dave
http://www.g4dpz.me.uk
On 1 Nov 2011, at 00:11, Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> On 31.10.2011 21:17, jmfranke wrote:
>> To paraphrase Yoda in Star Wars:
>>
>> Whine not. Do. Or do not. There is no whine.
>>
>> John WA4WDL
>
> or just do it yourself....
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/123.html
>
> Sorry - I could not resist.. old AMSAT technology, almost forgotten
> by most people...
>
> 73s
> Peter DB2OS
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:03:23 -0000
From: <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Peter Guelzow" <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <D176382D638343299C64452892E352A1@xxxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Hi Peter,
Many thanks for the link. On our FUNcube cubesat mission we are promoting,
as one of the many educational outreach subjects, the opportunity for a
group to design and build such a ranging system using the U/V linear
transponder that we will be flying on board. The same functionality will
also be available on UKube.
Maybe others can use this idea to help justify the presence of amateur
transponders on satellites to provide independent position information. We
might, however, have to ask Jim to take down his paper from the web so as
not to make it too easy:)
best 73
Graham
G3VZV
or just do it yourself....
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/123.html
Sorry - I could not resist.. old AMSAT technology, almost forgotten
by most people...
73s
Peter DB2OS
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:21:16 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Armando Mercado" <am25544@xxxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <006101cc987f$fdf8c7b0$0401a8c0@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Armando Mercado" <am25544@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
> Greetings,
>
> Well, how would we feel if USSTRATCOM started
> charging for the use of their data that we use to
> track our satellites?
>
>
> 73, Armando N8IGJ
>
Hi Armando, N8IGJ
If our satellite has an onboard transponder it is possible
to create the keplerian elements at a ground control station
using the following method:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/123.html
And this is why a linear transponder is justified on board of
our AMSAT satellites.
If the satellites is equipped with an apprpriate GPS system
like on AO40 it's onboard computer can calculate it's position
on the space and a ground control station can derive it's
keplerian elements in real time and distribute it to the users
via TLM messages.
ftp://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/chesters/goesref/Moreau_GPS.pdf
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:14:45 -0400
From: "Peter Portanova" <wb2oqq@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: NY SATELLITE SPECIAL EVENT STATION
Message-ID: <AA53346291D743C8BFB7C0335E09B575@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Good Morning,
I was asked by Hamilton, who attended one of my Satellite Presentations, to
make satellite operators aware of this event, thank you.
73's Pete
WB2OQQ
www.massapequanyweather.com
Hi,
A satellite special event station N3Y will operate from the New Yorker
Hotel in NY City on November 5th to raise awareness for the effort to
restore Nikola Tesla's last lab in Shoreham, NY into a science museum; The
New Yorker Hotel, was Tesla?s last home in Manhattan. Wardenclyffe, the lab,
is located in Shoreham, NY on Long Island. We are helping to raise
awareness for the effort to purchase the laboratory and restore it into a
science museum. To read more about the effort to restore Wardencyffe,
please check out http://www.teslasciencecenter.org. . For the latest
updates on what frequencies to catch the stations on and a sneak peek at the
QSL cards and QTHs, go to http://copaseticflows.appspot.com/teslaevent.
Thanks for your help!
--
73 de KD0FNR Hamilton
http://copaseticflows.appspot.com
http://copaseticflow.blogspot.com
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:20:45 -0500
From: "Raidel Abreu Espinet" <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: co6cbf@xxxxxx.xx.xxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Demonstration
Message-ID: <WC20111101132045.980090@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Well done!!!!
I wish you a great success, too bad I will at work at that time, I really
wanted to participate.
See you on the "birds" this weekend.
73,
Raydel, CM2ESP
EL83
-----Original Message-----
From: "Hector L Martinez, CO6CBF" <co6cbf@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:36:59 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Demonstration
> Hello Guys
>
>
>
> Today, I will be giving a Satellite demonstration portable from the sea
> walk of my city (Cienfuegos in EL92). We will try to receive the
> ARISSat-1 FM signal and operate on the AO-27 pass around 1838utc. A
> lot of students, teachers and amateur radio enthusiast will attend the
> demo.
>
>
> If you work me please give a shout out to the people and your QTH
> (city, state).
>
>
>
> Thanks and 73!
>
>
>
> Hector, CO6CBF
>
> EL92
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo electronico
> que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros
> para
> respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizacion y su
> politica informativa.
> La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
> servicio a tales fines y
> cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo electronico
> que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros
> para
> respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizacion y su
> politica informativa.
> La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el
> servicio a tales fines y
> cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------
Este mensaje ha sido enviado mediante el servicio de correo electronico
que ofrece la Federacion de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros para
respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizacion y su politica
informativa.
La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a
tales fines y
cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
------------------------------
Message: 19
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:24:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 5 in EM55
Message-ID:
<1317524582.1272399.1320153849990.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xx
xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
+Congrats to Bruce WA3SWJ for award #39 5 in em55
WA4HFN Damon
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 01:26:40 -0700
From: KE7OSN <ke7osn@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
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I think having stations set up to do that ranging would be neat to have if
nothing else for an education opportunity.
As a student working on building and launching one of these little
nano-satellites I would like to see one thing cleared up. These are NOT
University satellites, they are student satellites. They are designed and
built by students, funded through grants and donations arranged by
students. Universities provide little more then an framework
for organizing these sorts of projects. So if the university is going to
chip in to some fund on behalf of those helping track the satellites, then
it would be really nice for them to through some money at the building of
the satellites. At my school the department sponsoring our project has to
pay the university rent for the space we take up in a building "owned" by
the department for a project made up entirely of tuition paying students.
We may only pay around $7-15K in tuition, and another $5-10K in housing,
food, books, etc. but most of us if we are lucky can make about half our
yearly costs from summer jobs or internships. The rest we scrounge for
scholarships and grants. We put in around 20 hours a week into class and
labs, another 15-40 in other school work. What little free time we have we
spend in research labs instead of watching TV, or drinking. We spend a lot
of that time trying to keep the project funded to a level that allows us to
continue. We are very aware of how much it costs to construct a station to
track satellites, and to build the satellites, and to launch the
satellites. If we are able to bring in any extra money we spend that right
back into the students we have putting 20 hours a week that they could and
probably should spend on something outside of school. We devote years into
these little boxes of electronics, in the hope that it will someday fly in
space. We reach out and connect with other students doing the same thing,
we congratulate them for their successes, and console them on their losses.
I personally was up all night watching this latest launch as one of the
cubes (E1P) was to have been launch on the Glory mission in march which
failed to reach orbit. It is now on orbit and doing fine, M-Cubed however
seams to be having issues and I will track it every chance I get to help
that team understand what is going on.
I got into nano-satellites by first being a HAM, and if I have my way
anything I put into orbit will be switched over to a BBS, APRS digi, or
even voice repeater when the scientific mission is done. That time may not
come in the operational life span of the satellite and it is very important
that it complete the mission that someone has generously paid for. If
nothing else then I hope what I learn from this endeavor will serve to
further the collective understanding of something.
I attend a state school as a student of Mechanical Engineering, I have been
dumpster diving for parts, I carry two rolls of duct tape, I find a hammer
can fix many problems, I have spent hours building things to replace tools
I either cannot afford, or cannot afford to wait for. The moral is that
these aren't multi-million dollar projects with blank checks, these are
shoestring operations that have to take things one step at a time. If you
don't want to help out the next generation of aerospace engineers and
rocket scientists that's up to you. We won't turn down help, but many of us
have grown to expect nothing from anyone. We will build a ladder so we can
through our satellite into orbit if we have to.
I'm sorry if I seam over passionate or long winded, but please keep in mind
that I have watched for several years as budgets have been cut, my tuition
and living expenses goes up, and my income and financial-aid remain the
same. It is like a broken record (yes I know what records are) to hear
people complain about a short term inconvenience and offer a solution that
threatens long term progress.
Anthony Odenthal
KE7OSN
President Amateur Radio Club at OSU
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 21:45, Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx> wrote:
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> Very good, Peter, I was hoping we could get Jim to chime in!!
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> 73 Dave
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>
> On 31.10.2011 21:17, jmfranke wrote:
>> > To paraphrase Yoda in Star Wars:
>> >
>> > Whine not. Do. Or do not. There is no whine.
>> >
>> > John WA4WDL
>>
>> or just do it yourself....
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>>
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/**articles/g3ruh/123.html<http://www.amsat.org/amsa
t/articles/g3ruh/123.html>
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>> Sorry - I could not resist.. old AMSAT technology, almost forgotten
>> by most people...
>>
>> 73s
>> Peter DB2OS
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> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
> dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
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> Disagree: I learn....
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