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Today's Topics:
1. Doppler.SQF entries Re: Re: Keps! new cubesats...
(Mark L. Hammond)
2. Re: SRM not heard (Dinesh Cyanam)
3. Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (i8cvs)
4. Fw: Charge for Satellite Tracking? (i8cvs)
5. Explorer-1 packet heard in UK (GW1FKY@xxx.xxxx
6. Charge for Satellite Tracking? (Kevin Gordon) (Joe Leikhim)
7. Fw: Trying for ARISSat-1 Contact (Farrell Winder)
8. For Hire (Bruce)
9. Re: For Hire (Ted)
10. ARRISat-1 Linear Transponder (John Papay)
11. Re: ELaNa III Cubesat Launch October 28
(Raydel Abreu Espinet (CM2ESP))
12. Re: ELaNa III Cubesat Launch October 28 (Mark L. Hammond)
13. Re: ELaNa III Cubesat Launch October 28 (Mike Rupprecht)
14. Re: Keps! new cubesats... (James Cutler)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:04:17 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Doppler.SQF entries Re: Re: Keps! new cubesats...
Message-ID: <r74H1h0064ltuWb0574Huh@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
All,
Here is a strategy I used on new launches--since I don't know which object
is which bird, I make multiple frequency entries for each new object, so I
can at least QSY during the pass if I want to try and listen for another
one. Here is what I'm using to listen to RAX-2 and M-cubed (which I haven't
heard here yet...). You could always add a third or fourth line for each
bird, if you wanted to add Aubiesat-1 and E1P.
OBJECT C,437345.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
OBJECT C,437485.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
OBJECT D,437345.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
OBJECT D,437485.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
OBJECT E,437345.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
OBJECT E,437485.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
OBJECT F,437345.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
OBJECT F,437485.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
OBJECT G,437345.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
OBJECT G,437485.0,145950,FM,FM,Nor,0,0,9k6 packet
73,
Mark N8MH
At 02:32 PM 10/30/2011 -0400, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
>Carl,
>
>James Cutler "is" RAX-2...he's the faculty advisor to the students who
built it.
>
>The website is most certainly behind, because we are just now getting KEPS
via SpaceTrack.
>
>RAX-2 is probably one of the objects C, D, E, F, G listed below--but most
likely NOT A, B, or H.
>
>Here they are again--grabbed just now:
>
>
>OBJECT A
>1 37849U 11061A 11302.66421759 +.00000178 +00000-0 +10000-3 0 00099
>2 37849 098.7116 238.9909 0001984 118.3667 333.6358 14.22213241000181
>OBJECT B
>1 37850U 11061B 11302.62545336 +.00000480 +00000-0 +51357-4 0 00069
>2 37850 101.6952 233.0228 0253352 289.9995 191.7441 14.77439893000169
>OBJECT C
>1 37851U 11061C 11302.94063822 +.00148715 +00000-0 +11864-1 0 00048
>2 37851 101.7071 233.4846 0255164 289.2247 068.1438 14.77565457000225
>OBJECT D
>1 37852U 11061D 11302.94064686 +.00001317 +00000-0 +11875-3 0 00172
>2 37852 101.7026 233.4847 0255574 288.8425 068.5226 14.77447189000225
>OBJECT E
>1 37853U 11061E 11302.94060934 +.00035908 +00000-0 +29140-2 0 00036
>2 37853 101.6965 233.4869 0254859 289.2129 068.1595 14.77516832000229
>OBJECT F
>1 37854U 11061F 11303.54982327 .00014649 00000-0 11859-2 0 30
>2 37854 101.6986 234.3636 0256120 286.9239 070.4027 14.77691305 296
>OBJECT G
>1 37855U 11061G 11302.87272701 .00005061 00000-0 41578-3 0 34
>2 37855 101.7081 233.4066 0257546 289.0631 068.2617 14.77654712 194
>OBJECT H
>1 37856U 11061H 11303.53330434 .00817553 77249-5 81830-3 0 44
>2 37856 107.3170 237.6855 0390613 329.7694 028.1472 15.39999395 318
>
>
>
>Mark N8MH
>
>At 02:18 PM 10/30/2011 -0400, Carl Rimmer W8KRF wrote:
>>None of these are RAX-2. At least, not if the RAX-2 website is right.
There are people tracking RAX-2, so would you please share the keps you are
using?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>==========================================================================
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:59:23 -0400
>>From: "Mark L. Hammond"<marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
>>To: James Cutler<jwcutler@xxxxx.xxx>,amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps! new cubesats...
>>Message-ID:<qnzP1h0094ltuWb05nzQRs@xxxxx.xxx>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>Let the lottery begin...
>>
>>
>>OBJECT C
>>1 37851U 11061C 11302.87290423 .00363180 00000-0 28380-1 0 23
>>2 37851 101.7088 233.3889 0254268 289.0505 068.2827 14.77654778 204
>>OBJECT D
>>No Record
>>OBJECT E
>>1 37853U 11061E 11302.87289146 .00054233 00000-0 43824-2 0 22
>>2 37853 101.6952 233.3891 0255073 289.4018 067.9690 14.77521204 207
>>OBJECT F
>>1 37854U 11061F 11302.87272970 .00031269 00000-0 25123-2 0 26
>>2 37854 101.6987 233.3835 0256260 288.7205 068.6394 14.77687338 191
>>OBJECT G
>>1 37855U 11061G 11302.87272701 .00005061 00000-0 41578-3 0 34
>>2 37855 101.7081 233.4066 0257546 289.0631 068.2617 14.77654712 194
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
>>======================================================================
>>
>>--
>>*Carl W8KRF*
>>_______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:08:33 -0400
From: Dinesh Cyanam <dinesh@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, vuhams@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: Sanjay Nekkanti <sanjaynekkanti@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SRM not heard
Message-ID: <C3C59839-222C-4EAA-A7A2-53E8079E4CCF@xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Sundeep,
Are you using the latest keps? If not here are the latest TLEs from Space
Track.
SRMSAT
1 37841U 11058D 11302.40520615 +.00000264 +00000-0 +00000-0 0 00159
2 37841 019.9668 322.6738 0011190 170.0774 189.9902 14.10076842002444
> From: Sandeep Shah <vu3sxe@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SRM not heard
> Date: October 30, 2011 12:47:28 PM EDT
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx vuhams@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>
>
>
>
> SRM not heard Orbit 261..
>
> --
> Regards,
> Sundeep Shah/Vu3sxe
> Bangalore, India,
> 0 94484 26365.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:39:44 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>, "Kevin Gordon"
<kgordon@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>, "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
<kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <015a01cc9744$0edaeaa0$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Stefan, VE4NSA
Keep those blinders on secure! Again you totally miss the point
being made. These "poor" universities struggle along only charging
tuitions of $15K-$50K per student and are taking advantage of hams by
getting a free tracking network. If more institutions would thank
the hams by providing a ham transponder then that would be considered
a good return for out gratuity, but they are few.
I suspect that US hams would be in violation of rules by asking
renumeration for services, but monetary contributions to amsat is
something colleges could do in appreciation for the free tracking and
data collection.
But you twist it into something else.
I have done my time providing free telemetry support. Now my
professional services are available for a price.
You do what you want. WE have our opinion on that.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: "Kevin Gordon" <kgordon@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Again Domenico,
what a sad comment.
No one "makes" you work as a "picker" and no one has forced you to
invest whatever you invested in your equipment.
On the other hand , many of us take pride to assist and help in
building relationships and offering services because we "like" it and
it is fun!
Stefan, VE4NSA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Gordon" <kgordon@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 7:13 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
> Thank you Domenico.
> You understood my email exactly. Today Universities are commerical.
> Universities and other Commerical organisations need world wide reporting
> services and data collection ("tracking") of satellites.
>
> Only with regard to satellites should Amateur Radio (i.e. AMSAT) change
> its traditional stance ("We are NOT a commercial entity and exist because
> of our traditional support of emergency related situations and our
> experimental nature").
>
> Free ambulance services request a donation. I wish to suggest we request a
> donation "to our amateur radio satellite fund in lieu of tracking
> services".
>
> 73
> Kevin zl1bgk.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:10 AM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
> Hi Kevin, ZL1BGK
>
> You are absolutely correct ! I agree with you because if we as Amateur
> Satellite users will stop to collect telemetry for satellites that does
> not provide Amateur Radio Services,then the Universities and Commercial
> organizations will cease to build thousands of Microsats and Nanosats
> only for their own use.
>
> Unfortunately actually we work as pickers up of tennis-ball at no cost
> but investing a lot of money for our equipments.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Gordon" <kgordon@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 2:29 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Charge for Satellite Tracking?
> If a satellite does not provide amateur radio services, why not charge for
> satellite tracking?
>
> We could at least ask for a fixed amount per satellite as a donation to
> our amateur radio satellite fund in lieu of tracking services.
>
> Thousands of satellites will be placed in orbit in the coming years. We
> must lay claim to our share of orbit space by placing satellites in orbit.
>
> Just a thought!
>
> Kevin zl1bgk
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:40:20 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>, "Kevin Gordon"
<kgordon@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>, "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
Message-ID: <016101cc9744$2400bc20$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Gordon" <kgordon@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: "'i8cvs'" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Charge for Satellite Tracking?
> Hi Domenico
>
> I tried to send the email below to AMSAT-BB and was rejected:
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> To: (amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
> From: Kevin Gordon (kgordon@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Charge for Satellite Tracking?
> Date: 31/10/2011 8:08:55a
>
> Hi Mark,
> The future of satellite operation around our world is about to change
> significantly. For example study
> http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Releases/2011/10/20.aspx Defense
> Advanced Research Projects Agency.
> In the near future many organisations will have large networks of
> inter-cooperating cheap small satellites. There will be repair satellites
> and junk collecting satellites. There will be satellite parts raiding
> satellites. There will be conflicits over orbit space. There will be
> disputes over collisions.
> Amateur Radio organisations will need funds to protect our rights in
> space.
> Amateur Radio organisations must use there present rights to space to
> keep those rights.
>
> Yes it all comes down to money!
>
> 73
> Kevin zl1bgk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark L. Hammond [mailto:marklhammond@xxxxx.xxxx
> Sent: Monday, 31 October 2011 7:28 a.m.
> To: Kevin Gordon; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
>
> So you all aren't going to help unless they "pay" you? Wow. Now who seems
> like it's all about the money :)
>
> I've been helping with JUGNU, SRMSAT, RAX-2, etc. because it's FUN for me.
> And, they need the help.
>
> Take the HIGH road!
>
> 73,
>
> Mark N8MH
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:54:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: GW1FKY@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Explorer-1 packet heard in UK
Message-ID: <1565fb.1db2b53c.3bdf1388@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi all,
Apologies for mailing this information rather late. Only found this time
this evening to pass on the inforamtion.
I was monitoring the UHF frequencies allocate to the recent ELENA
Cubesats over here in Wales (UK) this
morning 1142 - 1156 hrs GMT.
I heard packet data quite strong on the frequency allocated to Explorer -1
- It was quite healthy but I had not set anything to record or decode the
data. ( 437.505 Mhz +/- doppler)
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat -UK
Amsat NA
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:50:38 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Charge for Satellite Tracking? (Kevin Gordon)
Message-ID: <4EADC6AE.1070202@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
This would open a lot of legal considerations in the US with respect to
prohibition for remuneration for amateur radio services.
The argument can be made that if a station is only serving to RECEIVE
transmissions, then the data gathering for hire may be legal,
irrespective if the satellite were using amateur, scientific or
commercial frequencies. This is because reception is not regulated by
the FCC.
If the station were to tele-command the satellite on amateur
frequencies, then transmissions would be for hire and thus prohibited.
The bigger issue is one of politics and cooperation. Serving as a no
cost service has the political benefit of potentially "getting a ride"
which has a bigger monetary benefit that providing an earth station for
hire.
Of course there is the possibility of constructing a global network to
benefit a start up like SPACE-X on a quasi-commercial basis that could
include a ride along agreement. This network would of course have to avoid
the amateur frequencies.
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
www.Leikhim.com
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:01:53 -0400
From: "Farrell Winder" <fwinder@xxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: Trying for ARISSat-1 Contact
Message-ID: <400036D08E7D4E54B15DCEDF69C4451D@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I am pleased to report that Burns, W2BFJ heard me but he was on temporary
power and could not respond to Tx.. I heard a station calling, believe was
call ending "YSE" but my Rx was off due to doppler and it was at end of
pass. I will be trying again Oct 31., 17:08, 18:43, 20:20 and 21:56 using
LSB on Tx.
73,
Thanks to all others who might have tried to Tx or Rx.
Farrell Winder, W8ZCF
From: Farrell Winder
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 2:42 PM
To: AMSAT
Cc: Peter Portanova ; Henry Cantrell ; W4AS Sebastian
Subject: Trying for ARISSat-1 Contact
Will be trying for contact ARISSat-1 on next 2 passes Cincinnati beginning
19:53Z, also 21:30Z. Setting Rx at 145.930 +/- doppler. Have managed to
hear my transmissions on the 2 previous passes but could not find any other
stations.
Thanks any one trying to make 2 way.
Farrell Winder, W8ZCF Cincinnati, Ohio
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:34:01 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Hire
Message-ID: <4A47B03C-85B6-4681-8348-AEC1CE286F32@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Satellite monitoring.
Any satellite, any where in the world (except North Korea) 24/7 - 365 days.
$100 per hour
Minimum contract 24 hours per day for 30 days for one location.
Negotiable for longer contracts.
73...bruce
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:51:41 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Bruce'" <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>, "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: For Hire
Message-ID: <7D847AD4957F4BD1A477CE782DB83DD8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Bruce, you will have to change your name to 'Dog, The Satellite Hunter'
73, Ted
K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:34 PM
To: amsat-bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Hire
Satellite monitoring.
Any satellite, any where in the world (except North Korea) 24/7 - 365 days.
$100 per hour
Minimum contract 24 hours per day for 30 days for one location.
Negotiable for longer contracts.
73...bruce
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:23:47 -0400
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRISat-1 Linear Transponder
Message-ID: <736928.91635.qm@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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ARRISat-1 continues to function although the
signal from orbit to orbit is quite different. On
the previous pass at 2135z 30 Oct, I could barely
hear my downlink. I was hearing W8ZCF and he heard
at least part of my call. On the next pass at 2309z,
the transponder was strong and I was able to hear my
downlink until the bird went silent at 2313z just before
it eclipsed. A good contact was made with K9OIM. I guess
it all depends on the angle with respect to the stubby
uhf antenna. ARRISat-1 does go off even when it is in
good sunlight. Then when it looks like it is just barely
getting enough sun, the bird stays on and the signal is
strong. You just never know what it is going to do.
73,
John K8YSE
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:55:59 -0400
From: "Raydel Abreu Espinet \(CM2ESP\)" <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ELaNa III Cubesat Launch October 28
Message-ID: <00411F5F0ADF48078A937BDE50704F39@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Hi all,In a diferent mail and in the latest keplers these sats are named A,
B, C...., G
Had any one already identified some of those, e.g.: A is .... B is ....
I would like to try recieve the signals but not sure which one is which and
not enough time to test one by one because I only can hear the birds after
returning from work and before dinner ;-) between 18:00 and 20:00.
Any info will be very usefull,
73,
Raydel, CM2ESP
----- Original Message -----
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Trevor . <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>
>> The following info from the Cubesat reflector:
>>
>> The ELaNa III Cubesats being launched are listed below:
>>
>> Satellite: AubieSat-1
>> Downlink Freq: 437.475 MHz
>> EIRP: .708W
>> Modulation Scheme: Interrupted Continuous Wave (IWC)
>> Protocol: Morse Code
>> Baud Rate: 20wpm
>>
>> Satellite: DICE
>> Downlink Freq: 465 MHz
>> EIRP: -4.51dBW
>> Modulation Scheme: OQPSK
>> Protocol: CCSDS
>> Baud Rate: Modulation data rate 1.5 megabit, Actual Tx bit rate 3.0
>> megabit
>>
>> Satellite: RAX-2
>> Downlink Freq: 437.345 MHz
>> Modulation Scheme: GMSK
>> Baud Rate: 9600
>>
>> Satellite: M-Cubed (1)
>> Downlink Freq: 437.485MHz
>> EIRP: < 1W
>> Modulation Scheme: FSK
>> Protocol: AX.25
>> Baud Rate: 9600
>>
>> Satellite: Explorer-1[PRIME] Flight Unit 2
>> Downlink Freq: 437.505 MHz
>> EIRP: -0.7dBW
>> Modulation Scheme: Non-Coherent FSK
>> Protocol: KISS Custom
>> Baud Rate: 1200
>>
>> Additional spacecraft information can be found on the satellite websites
>> listed below:
>> M-Cubed:
>> http://umcubed.org/
>> DICE:
>> http://www.sdl.usu.edu/programs/dice
>> Explorer-1[PRIME]
>> http://ssel.montana.edu/e1p/
>> RAX-2:
>> http://rax.engin.umich.edu/
>> AubieSat-1:
>> http://space.auburn.edu/
>>
>> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>>
>>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:20:24 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Raydel Abreu Espinet \(CM2ESP\)" <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: James Cutler <jwcutler@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ELaNa III Cubesat Launch October 28
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Hello Raydel,
The new satellites are pretty close together right now, so it's almost
impossible to know for sure which Object has which real name. It will take
a while (week or two, maybe longer).
In the meantime, I am finding pretty good automated tracking and telemetry
collection using OBJECT C for RAX-2. It's a 9600 baud FM packet bird, so
tuning isn't super critical.
Objects A, B, and H most certainly appear NOT to be the cubesats.
So start looking at C, D, E, F, G --and then you'll see these all track
pretty close together anyhow--so knowing right now which is which isn't that
important.
73,
Mark N8MH
At 07:55 PM 10/30/2011 -0400, Raydel Abreu Espinet \(CM2ESP\) wrote:
>Hi all,In a diferent mail and in the latest keplers these sats are named A,
B, C...., G
>Had any one already identified some of those, e.g.: A is .... B is ....
>I would like to try recieve the signals but not sure which one is which and
not enough time to test one by one because I only can hear the birds after
returning from work and before dinner ;-) between 18:00 and 20:00.
>Any info will be very usefull,
>73,
>Raydel, CM2ESP
>
>----- Original Message -----
>>On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Trevor . <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>>
>>>The following info from the Cubesat reflector:
>>>
>>>The ELaNa III Cubesats being launched are listed below:
>>>
>>>Satellite: AubieSat-1
>>>Downlink Freq: 437.475 MHz
>>>EIRP: .708W
>>>Modulation Scheme: Interrupted Continuous Wave (IWC)
>>>Protocol: Morse Code
>>>Baud Rate: 20wpm
>>>
>>>Satellite: DICE
>>>Downlink Freq: 465 MHz
>>>EIRP: -4.51dBW
>>>Modulation Scheme: OQPSK
>>>Protocol: CCSDS
>>>Baud Rate: Modulation data rate 1.5 megabit, Actual Tx bit rate 3.0
>>>megabit
>>>
>>>Satellite: RAX-2
>>>Downlink Freq: 437.345 MHz
>>>Modulation Scheme: GMSK
>>>Baud Rate: 9600
>>>
>>>Satellite: M-Cubed (1)
>>>Downlink Freq: 437.485MHz
>>>EIRP: < 1W
>>>Modulation Scheme: FSK
>>>Protocol: AX.25
>>>Baud Rate: 9600
>>>
>>>Satellite: Explorer-1[PRIME] Flight Unit 2
>>>Downlink Freq: 437.505 MHz
>>>EIRP: -0.7dBW
>>>Modulation Scheme: Non-Coherent FSK
>>>Protocol: KISS Custom
>>>Baud Rate: 1200
>>>
>>>Additional spacecraft information can be found on the satellite websites
>>>listed below:
>>>M-Cubed:
>>>http://umcubed.org/
>>>DICE:
>>>http://www.sdl.usu.edu/programs/dice
>>>Explorer-1[PRIME]
>>>http://ssel.montana.edu/e1p/
>>>RAX-2:
>>>http://rax.engin.umich.edu/
>>>AubieSat-1:
>>>http://space.auburn.edu/
>>>
>>>73 Trevor M5AKA
>>>
>>>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:22:15 +0100 (MET)
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>, "Raydel Abreu Espinet
(CM2ESP)" <cl2esp@xxxxxx.xx.xx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: James Cutler <jwcutler@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ELaNa III Cubesat Launch October 28
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Hi Mark,
I agree with you. BTW, today I used OBJECT F for E1P. Looks good so far.
73 Mike
DK3WN
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Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: ELaNa III Cubesat Launch October 28
Gesendet: Mo, 31. Okt 2011
Von: Mark L. Hammond<marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
> Hello Raydel,
>
> The new satellites are pretty close together right now, so it's almost
> impossible to know for sure which Object has which real name. It will take
> a while (week or two, maybe longer).
>
> In the meantime, I am finding pretty good automated tracking and telemetry
> collection using OBJECT C for RAX-2. It's a 9600 baud FM packet bird, so
> tuning isn't super critical.
>
> Objects A, B, and H most certainly appear NOT to be the cubesats.
>
> So start looking at C, D, E, F, G --and then you'll see these all track
> pretty close together anyhow--so knowing right now which is which isn't that
> important.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark N8MH
>
>
>
> At 07:55 PM 10/30/2011 -0400, Raydel Abreu Espinet \(CM2ESP\) wrote:
> >Hi all,In a diferent mail and in the latest keplers these sats are named A,
> B, C...., G
> >Had any one already identified some of those, e.g.: A is .... B is ....
> >I would like to try recieve the signals but not sure which one is which and
> not enough time to test one by one because I only can hear the birds after
> returning from work and before dinner ;-) between 18:00 and 20:00.
> >Any info will be very usefull,
> >73,
> >Raydel, CM2ESP
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >>On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Trevor . <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> >>
> >>>The following info from the Cubesat reflector:
> >>>
> >>>The ELaNa III Cubesats being launched are listed below:
> >>>
> >>>Satellite: AubieSat-1
> >>>Downlink Freq: 437.475 MHz
> >>>EIRP: .708W
> >>>Modulation Scheme: Interrupted Continuous Wave (IWC)
> >>>Protocol: Morse Code
> >>>Baud Rate: 20wpm
> >>>
> >>>Satellite: DICE
> >>>Downlink Freq: 465 MHz
> >>>EIRP: -4.51dBW
> >>>Modulation Scheme: OQPSK
> >>>Protocol: CCSDS
> >>>Baud Rate: Modulation data rate 1.5 megabit, Actual Tx bit rate 3.0
> >>>megabit
> >>>
> >>>Satellite: RAX-2
> >>>Downlink Freq: 437.345 MHz
> >>>Modulation Scheme: GMSK
> >>>Baud Rate: 9600
> >>>
> >>>Satellite: M-Cubed (1)
> >>>Downlink Freq: 437.485MHz
> >>>EIRP: < 1W
> >>>Modulation Scheme: FSK
> >>>Protocol: AX.25
> >>>Baud Rate: 9600
> >>>
> >>>Satellite: Explorer-1[PRIME] Flight Unit 2
> >>>Downlink Freq: 437.505 MHz
> >>>EIRP: -0.7dBW
> >>>Modulation Scheme: Non-Coherent FSK
> >>>Protocol: KISS Custom
> >>>Baud Rate: 1200
> >>>
> >>>Additional spacecraft information can be found on the satellite websites
> >>>listed below:
> >>>M-Cubed:
> >>>http://umcubed.org/
> >>>DICE:
> >>>http://www.sdl.usu.edu/programs/dice
> >>>Explorer-1[PRIME]
> >>>http://ssel.montana.edu/e1p/
> >>>RAX-2:
> >>>http://rax.engin.umich.edu/
> >>>AubieSat-1:
> >>>http://space.auburn.edu/
> >>>
> >>>73 Trevor M5AKA
> >>>
> >>>
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> >que ofrece la Federaci?n de Radioaficionados de Cuba a sus miembros para
> >respaldar el cumplimiento de los objetivos de la organizaci?n y su pol?tica
> informativa.
> >La persona que env?a este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a
> tales fines y
> >cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas.
> >
> >
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:25:37 -0400
From: James Cutler <jwcutler@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Carl Rimmer W8KRF <w8krf@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Keps! new cubesats...
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We suspect RAX-2 to be Object E. Our ground station rotators though are
failing so we're having difficulty tracking. Our new Alfa Spids should
arrive this week so we can fix.
The Utah team tracked objects B and D and they were able to communicate
with their satellites. Since they are using high gain, narrow beam
antenna, there is little doubt that these objects are antyhing else.
--Jamie
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University of Michigan
Department of Aerospace Engineering
1320 Beal Avenue
3013 FXB Building
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2140
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Fax: 734-763-0578
http://www.umich.edu/~jwcutler/
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Mark L. Hammond
<marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>wrote:
> Carl,
>
> James Cutler "is" RAX-2...he's the faculty advisor to the students who
> built it.
>
> The website is most certainly behind, because we are just now getting KEPS
> via SpaceTrack.
>
> RAX-2 is probably one of the objects C, D, E, F, G listed below--but most
> likely NOT A, B, or H.
>
> Here they are again--grabbed just now:
>
>
> OBJECT A
> 1 37849U 11061A 11302.66421759 +.00000178 +00000-0 +10000-3 0 00099
> 2 37849 098.7116 238.9909 0001984 118.3667 333.6358 14.22213241000181
> OBJECT B
> 1 37850U 11061B 11302.62545336 +.00000480 +00000-0 +51357-4 0 00069
> 2 37850 101.6952 233.0228 0253352 289.9995 191.7441 14.77439893000169
> OBJECT C
> 1 37851U 11061C 11302.94063822 +.00148715 +00000-0 +11864-1 0 00048
> 2 37851 101.7071 233.4846 0255164 289.2247 068.1438 14.77565457000225
> OBJECT D
> 1 37852U 11061D 11302.94064686 +.00001317 +00000-0 +11875-3 0 00172
> 2 37852 101.7026 233.4847 0255574 288.8425 068.5226 14.77447189000225
> OBJECT E
> 1 37853U 11061E 11302.94060934 +.00035908 +00000-0 +29140-2 0 00036
> 2 37853 101.6965 233.4869 0254859 289.2129 068.1595 14.77516832000229
> OBJECT F
> 1 37854U 11061F 11303.54982327 .00014649 00000-0 11859-2 0 30
> 2 37854 101.6986 234.3636 0256120 286.9239 070.4027 14.77691305 296
> OBJECT G
> 1 37855U 11061G 11302.87272701 .00005061 00000-0 41578-3 0 34
> 2 37855 101.7081 233.4066 0257546 289.0631 068.2617 14.77654712 194
> OBJECT H
> 1 37856U 11061H 11303.53330434 .00817553 77249-5 81830-3 0 44
> 2 37856 107.3170 237.6855 0390613 329.7694 028.1472 15.39999395 318
>
>
>
> Mark N8MH
>
> At 02:18 PM 10/30/2011 -0400, Carl Rimmer W8KRF wrote:
> >None of these are RAX-2. At least, not if the RAX-2 website is right.
> There are people tracking RAX-2, so would you please share the keps you
> are using?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >==========================================================================
> >Message: 4
> >Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:59:23 -0400
> >From: "Mark L. Hammond"<marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
> >To: James Cutler<jwcutler@xxxxx.xxx>,amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps! new cubesats...
> >Message-ID:<qnzP1h0094ltuWb05nzQRs@xxxxx.xxx>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >Let the lottery begin...
> >
> >
> >OBJECT C
> >1 37851U 11061C 11302.87290423 .00363180 00000-0 28380-1 0 23
> >2 37851 101.7088 233.3889 0254268 289.0505 068.2827 14.77654778 204
> >OBJECT D
> >No Record
> >OBJECT E
> >1 37853U 11061E 11302.87289146 .00054233 00000-0 43824-2 0 22
> >2 37853 101.6952 233.3891 0255073 289.4018 067.9690 14.77521204 207
> >OBJECT F
> >1 37854U 11061F 11302.87272970 .00031269 00000-0 25123-2 0 26
> >2 37854 101.6987 233.3835 0256260 288.7205 068.6394 14.77687338 191
> >OBJECT G
> >1 37855U 11061G 11302.87272701 .00005061 00000-0 41578-3 0 34
> >2 37855 101.7081 233.4066 0257546 289.0631 068.2617 14.77654712 194
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
> >======================================================================
> >
> >--
> >*Carl W8KRF*
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