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Today's Topics:
1. ARRISAT and a fun afternoon on AO51 (James Luhn)
2. ...on the way to San Jose Repeaters (James Luhn)
3. Re: This Is a HOBBY people (i8cvs)
4. Re: This Is a HOBBY people (Tony Langdon)
5. Re: This Is a HOBBY people (Stefan Wagener)
6. Re: HO-68 (saguaroastro@xxx.xxxx
7. Re: AO-27/SO-50 (Richard Grabotin)
8. 10 meter yagi?? (Kevin Deane)
9. [Re: Prospero] Commanding Error (Roger Duthie)
10. Re: This Is a HOBBY people (Andre)
11. Re: 10 meter yagi?? (Michael Schulz)
12. Re: This Is a HOBBY people (Michael Schulz)
13. Re: This Is a HOBBY people (Dennis Griffin)
14. Re: Prospero Commanded Pass Today (Roger Duthie)
15. Re: 10 meter yagi?? (DF2MZ)
16. Re: This Is a HOBBY people (Gregg Wonderly)
17. Re: 10 meter turnstyle? (Roger)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:33:19 -0500
From: James Luhn <luhn@xx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRISAT and a fun afternoon on AO51
Message-ID: <4EA611DF.6050103@xx.xxx>
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I have been trying to use ARRISAT-1 for the past couple of days.
Despite the fact it was almost directly overhead, I could not get my SSB
signal through the transponder. I am using an IC-910 and arrow beam. I
am fully aware of the antenna issue on the lady. Today I did not hear
anything from the satellite. Has anyone been working through the
satellite the past couple of day? Perhaps I have something wrong. The
same rig and antenna works fine with the other satellites. With AO51, I
run it at the minimum power which is probably about 5 watts.
I had several pleasant exchanges on AO-51 today. The thrill has not
worn off for me and I doubt it ever will. Yep, I have worked several
before but it is always nice to say hi to an old or new friend.
A big thank you to all involved who keep the old birds working. Most of
us do not keep a rig as long as some of the still working birds have
been flying. Too bad a service call cannot be made on the dormant ones.
73,
-james
W5AOO
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:42:01 -0500
From: James Luhn <luhn@xx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ...on the way to San Jose Repeaters
Message-ID: <4EA613E9.20605@xx.xxx>
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I know that there are several repeaters in San Jose. Is there anyone in
particular that AMSAT members will be using during the Symposium?
I am looking so forward to meeting everyone, especially those who have
been so kind to help me get up and running on the satellites.
73 & 88,
-james
W5AOO
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:44:55 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Bruce" <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>, <w5ggw@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: This Is a HOBBY people
Message-ID: <007b01cc92b7$b30017e0$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <w5ggw@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:56 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: This Is a HOBBY people
> notice how after dominco got this all stired up, he stops participating.
> cant wait until he funds the launch of a heo for us.
>
> 73...bruce
Hi Bruce, KK5DO
Well, AMSAT-DL is working hard to find a possibility to launch P3-E, most
likely along with P5.
They recently had a surprisingly positive meeting with the head of DLR and
members of their Ministry, another meeting was request by them for next
month.
Keep in mind, that it also took more than 10 years to launch P3-D, but
indeed it's a long way since AO-40,,,
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:12:26 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Diane Bruce <db@xx.xxx>, w5ggw@xxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: This Is a HOBBY people
Message-ID: <4ea61b15.8a8bec0a.1b3c.ffffbff2@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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At 11:26 AM 10/25/2011, Diane Bruce wrote:
>Yes it is. It is ONLY a freakin' Hobby. If we want kids in our freakin'
>HOBBY we need to make it *FUN*. Learning stuff, radio stuff, building
>stuff learning what radio is how antennas work. All that stuff.
Agree with the "fun" bit, but "fun" can be defined in so many ways,
so whatever floats your boat, if it's to do with ham radio, all's
well and good. Everything you've listed... and more!
> > There are services which you can and should provide as your skills and
> > knowledge allow you to. Making a choice to not participate in the service
>
>And that is the marketable skill. Many many hams are also computer
>types, physicists, engineers.
Who knows where ham radio skills come in handy. Just came back from
a local incident, where a key part of the infrastructure failed. I
was probably the first to recognise the nature of the problem, though
not able to directly help at the time (due to only having a receiver
in the car). Eventually, another channel was found, and I helped out
with testing to ensure it would be workable until the network is fixed.
> > EMCOMM is something that we all have opportunities to help with. Many
>
>No, EMCOMM is the cancer that is eating Amateur Radio.
No, EMCOMM is just another aspect of the hobby. It works for some,
not for others.
>But EMCOMM is still not the only reason someone should be getting
>into amateur radio.
>EMCOMM is what discourages the youth of today from particpating in ham
>radio. Get the kids in, get them excited, get them interested in DSP
>combining radio and computers, show them FUN. Don't sell them on EMCOMM.
It's not the ONLY reason to get involved, but for some it is A
reason. I agree that the exciting technical developments such as DSP
and SDR should be promoted to the younger generation, as well as all
of the "How it works" and DYI that you can get into. And for others,
the thrill of catching that rare DX is the excitement (though not
high on my personal priority list). Others will be interested in the
Internet connected modes (IRLP, Echolink, D-STAR, etc), and some will
be drawn to the simplicity and uniqueness of Morse Code, or perhaps
operating old boat anchors on AM. All aspects of the hobby need to
be promoted, people will find their own personal reasons to join
in... or not. And yes, there will be a small number civic minded
young people who want to be able to get into EMCOMM. We just have to
make sure we don't sell ourselves short.
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:21:26 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: This Is a HOBBY people
Message-ID:
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Sorry Domenico,
At this point having a "positive meeting" does nothing for P3-E. P5 is
only a valid option in the future if it is designed for a moon orbit.
The Mars option is an amateur radio user nightmare and ill conceived.
Any CubeSat will do more for us than a P5 around Mars because of the
hardware requirements for the majority of amateur radio satellite
operators. Thanks, but I believe it when I see it and I don't see it
and that's why I stopped to support it.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:44 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce" <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: <w5ggw@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:56 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: This Is a HOBBY people
>
>> notice how after dominco got this all stired up, he stops participating.
>> cant wait until he funds the launch of a heo for us.
>>
>> 73...bruce
>
> Hi Bruce, KK5DO
>
> Well, ?AMSAT-DL is working hard to find a possibility to launch P3-E, most
> likely along with P5.
>
> They recently had a surprisingly positive meeting with the head of DLR and
> members of their Ministry, another meeting was request by them for next
> month.
>
> Keep in mind, that it also took more than 10 years to launch P3-D, but
> indeed it's a long way since AO-40,,,
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:53:05 -0400
From: <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
To: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb BBs
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68
Message-ID: <20111024235305.9H0KB.2424017.imail@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
As I recall, HO-68 had a stuck relay that was preventing it from changing
Modes. The Command team was trying to find a work around but put the chance
of success at about 10%.
Not sure I'd be Holding my breath. Hope (pun in tended) they do manage to
bring this bird back. It was a lot of fun to work.
73 Rick
K7TEJ
---- Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Ted wrote:
>
> > If memory serves, a couple of months ago, one of the principles posted
that
> > they were trying to fix something but that it was coming back.
> >
> > Time for an official update from the HO-68 folks
>
> And time to bury that other negative crap and get back to satellite
business :)
>
> Stop global whining!
>
> 73 Mike K5TRI
>
> p.s.: Instead of complaining, get outside or even better in between passes
get on HF
> and enjoy the awesome conditions we have right now.
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:14:20 -0700
From: Richard Grabotin <hans_2@xxxxx.xxx>
To: David Palmer KB5WIA <kb5wia@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27/SO-50
Message-ID: <B48C6E1A-37D7-4371-B223-0DEFEDCFE13F@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Thank you everyone for your help. I had my first successful contact on SO-50.
AO-27 appears to be on hiatus, since the website is also down.
My next endeavor is learning the linear transponder birds. I have been
trying to receive AO-7. I never heard a beacon on either mode A or B.
(Daytime pass) I tuned around the downlink and I might have heard some very
faint stations. I guess I need bigger antennas? Perhaps some phasing cables
will help. (it's in the mail)
Thank you KB5WIA for the contact this evening.
Richard
K7LWV
On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:31 AM, David Palmer KB5WIA <kb5wia@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
>> . I am using a yeasu g-5500 rotator with the AMSAT controller and ham
radio deluxe. Kenwood ts-2000 for the rig and a 8 element 440 and a 4
element 2 meter antenna. The antennas are currently linear polarized since
my phasing cables still have not arrived from the manufacturer.
>
> Good setup!
>
>>
>> My questions are, is AO-27 difficult to work? Is it on a schedule? Any
ideas why I could not raise or hear it?
>
> Yes, it's on a schedule -- check the status page on www.amsat.org to
> see when it comes on and off. It comes on at mid-latitudes by a timer,
> so for an overhead pass in your area you *should* have heard it ....
> other things to check would be that the keps are current, and that
> there weren't any glitches during that particular pass (ie. maybe
> radios briefly stopped tuning). Try again, it's a nice loud sat.
>
>>
>> As for SO-50: Should I be listening 5khz down? Ham radio deluxe is
controlling the radio frequencies and I made a custom entry for 5khz down
and corrected for Doppler. This still did not seem to help.
>
> I've found SO-50 about 5kHz-8kHz down, so listen down a little.
> Remember the tone on the uplink too. Also, I've seen quite a few
> posts that the TS-2000 has a birdie right at the high end of SO-50's
> downlink, so you may have a better chance hearing it later in the pass
> as doppler moves the downlink away from the birdie.
>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> K7LWV
>
> Good luck on the sats!!!!
>
> 73 de Dave KB5WIA
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:58:07 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 10 meter yagi??
Message-ID: <COL107-W4268F987D86CDDAC62614583EC0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
If I suspended a few directors in front of a 10 meter dipole with a
reflector of course, would that work?
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:47:10 +0100
From: Roger Duthie <rjad@xxxx.xxx.xx.xx>
To: df2mz@xxxxxxxx.xxx Tony Abbey <afa3@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>,
amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Re: Prospero] Commanding Error
Message-ID: <4EA6778E.8090005@xxxx.xxx.xx.xx>
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We had a problem with our end and couldn't command during this pass. If
you'd have heard something, I'd have been surprised.
We did manage to command during the later pass at around 1850 BST,
though it was a low pass and we're not sure if we picked anything up.
- Rr.
PS., Attempting passes today at (in BST = UTC + 1):
25 Oct
<http://www.heavens-above.com/Gtrack.aspx?Session=kebgfdallkbipfnbnjhopgbh&sat
id=5580&date=40841.6024848611>
7.5 15:21:10 10 SSE 15:27:34 47 E 15:34:58 10 NNE
25 Oct
<http://www.heavens-above.com/Gtrack.aspx?Session=kebgfdallkbipfnbnjhopgbh&sat
id=5580&date=40841.6750910069>
8.1 17:05:33 10 SW 17:12:07 47 WNW 17:19:43 10 N
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:47:55 +0200
From: Andre <sats@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: This Is a HOBBY people
Message-ID: <4EA685CB.9000909@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xx>
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Op 25-10-2011 1:36, Gregg Wonderly schreef:
>
> The Amateur Radio service is the service.
All radio users are services.
Even CB and FRS are services, heck it is in the acrynom of FRS Family
Radio *Service*
the only difference between Amateur radio services and CB etc. from ITU
points of view is that Amateur radio is it's own services while CB and
other simular services are gathered under mobile service, along with
military.
And no licence is not the distinction, Netherlands and I think several
other countries have amatuer radio service as licence free under
conditions with registration, one of the conditions being the need to
pass a test.
73 Andre PE1RDW
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:46:04 -0500
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 10 meter yagi??
Message-ID: <8B8404C8-EE94-4296-9F74-517118AC42A6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi Kevin,
On Oct 25, 2011, at 12:58 AM, Kevin Deane wrote:
>
> If I suspended a few directors in front of a 10 meter dipole with a
reflector of course, would that work?
>
I tried several times to get the mode A downlink of AO-7 to work for me. I
tried a dipole, a vertical (ground mounted)
and also a 3 element yagi but no dice. Next step is to get the vertical up
at 20 or 30ft. and see what happens then.
YMMV.
If it's for general antenna concerns, then yes but you wouldn't be able to
rotate it in a very effective way :). I built a
rotatable dipole for 10m once using PVC pipe and then running the wire
alongside that pipe. Now one could of
course build it out but then it becomes a matter of material as well in
order to keep it stable.
73 Mike K5TRI
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:50:03 -0500
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: This Is a HOBBY people
Message-ID: <2213788C-083D-4AFC-9F51-A6185124E790@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Andre,
On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Andre wrote:
> Op 25-10-2011 1:36, Gregg Wonderly schreef:
>>
>> The Amateur Radio service is the service.
> All radio users are services.
> Even CB and FRS are services, heck it is in the acrynom of FRS Family
Radio *Service*
Don't destroy hope for the people who felt so special. Now you took it all
away and they became mere mortals
with nothing to distinguish themselves from the masses anymore because ..
yuck .. Amateur Radio and CB are
both services? :). *SCNR*
73 Mike K5TRI
Disclaimer for the sarcasm challenged: It was just that, sarcasm. No need to
cry and start whining again. You can of
course send nasty complaints to my email at /dev/null.
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 06:10:46 -0700
From: Dennis Griffin <eagleeyedennis@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: This Is a HOBBY people
Message-ID: <7F16D213-1C93-4CF4-93D7-419B9C9474A6@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
For those that may not be aware, EmComm is a contraction of the two words
Emergency Communications, and as such is properly expressed as I have here.
It is not an acronym, so expressing it as one (EMCOMM) can lead to one
wondering what it expands to.
Presented for clarification only, since accurate communication is a
fundamental element of most aspects of our hobby.
Cheers,
Dennis
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:43:25 +0100
From: Roger Duthie <rjad@xxxx.xxx.xx.xx>
To: pe0sat@xxxxx.xx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Prospero Commanded Pass Today
Message-ID: <4EA6BCFD.4050602@xxxx.xxx.xx.xx>
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I don't think there is a 148MHz transmitter, though Prospero's uplink is
148.25MHz.
Also, after looking at your page I think I should say that we think that
the Coast BBC transmission was almost certainly an Orbcomm
transmission. The Prospero downlink frequency was reassigned to Orbcomm.
Which sound file are you talking about? There are what claims to be
original audio files here: http://www.dd1us.de/spacesounds%204.html (you
need to find Prospero further down the page).
- Roger
PE0SAT wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> I have updated http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/satellite/sat-history/prospero/
> with my latest images and recordings. It is possible to get the complete
> audio file. Send me a direct email and we can arrange something.
>
> I had read that there is a 148.000 MHz transmitter on board prospero, and
> I listend to that frquentie during the pass from 15:55 UTC. Maybe it is
> interesting what is happening on that transmitter.
>
> How do things go on your site regarding PROSPERO? any news?
>
> 73 Jan PE0SAT
>
> On Mon, October 24, 2011 13:01, Roger Duthie wrote:
>
>> AMSAT community -
>>
>> The Mullard team intend to attempt commanding to Prospero during the
>>
> following pass:
>
>> (entries are: date; mag; start time; el; az; max el time; max el; az;
>>
> end time; end el; end az)
>
>> 24 Oct
>>
<http://www.heavens-above.com/Gtrack.aspx?Session=kebgfdalljnnahdmapeidbkh&sat
id=5580&date=40840.6673023843>
>> 7.7 16:54:17 10 SSW 17:00:54 58 WNW 17:08:40 10 N
>>
>>
>> Any listening on the downlink, and feedback on your observations, would
>>
> be most appreciated.
>
>> We may also try the later pass:
>>
>> 24 Oct
>>
<http://www.heavens-above.com/Gtrack.aspx?Session=kebgfdalljnnahdmapeidbkh&sat
id=5580&date=40840.7412698495>
>> 9.3 18:42:56 10 W 18:47:25 17 NW 18:52:14 10 N
>>
>>
>>
>> **** TIMES ARE IN BST (ie., UTC + 1) ****
>>
>> - Roger
>>
>> PS., I hope the copy-paste from heavens-above works.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:54:44 +0200
From: "DF2MZ" <Edgar.Kaiser@xxxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 10 meter yagi??
Message-ID: <4EA6BFA4.3050206@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi All,
I am using a vertical dipole, 10 m above ground for AO 7 mode A and I
have good signals as soon as the bird is 1 degree above horizon. I think
the vertical dipole provides better illumination towards horizon but of
course has a null in the zenith, but that is anyway less interesting for
dx on shortwave and Satellite.
Cheers
Edgar
Am 25.10.2011 14:46, schrieb Michael Schulz:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> On Oct 25, 2011, at 12:58 AM, Kevin Deane wrote:
>
>> If I suspended a few directors in front of a 10 meter dipole with a
reflector of course, would that work?
>>
> I tried several times to get the mode A downlink of AO-7 to work for me. I
tried a dipole, a vertical (ground mounted)
> and also a 3 element yagi but no dice. Next step is to get the vertical up
at 20 or 30ft. and see what happens then.
> YMMV.
>
> If it's for general antenna concerns, then yes but you wouldn't be able to
rotate it in a very effective way :). I built a
> rotatable dipole for 10m once using PVC pipe and then running the wire
alongside that pipe. Now one could of
> course build it out but then it becomes a matter of material as well in
order to keep it stable.
>
> 73 Mike K5TRI
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:11:17 -0500
From: Gregg Wonderly <w5ggw@xxx.xxx>
To: Andre <sats@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: This Is a HOBBY people
Message-ID: <4EA6C385.3040104@xxx.xxx>
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On 10/25/2011 4:47 AM, Andre wrote:
> Op 25-10-2011 1:36, Gregg Wonderly schreef:
>>
>> The Amateur Radio service is the service.
> All radio users are services.
> Even CB and FRS are services, heck it is in the acrynom of FRS Family Radio
> *Service*
The word service is not the primary issue Andre. It's the text of the FCC
part
97 regulations which describe what the amateur radio service licensee is
charged
with. The text says that the services of the amateur are important to the
communities around them, and to the art and science of radio based
communication's evolution. It says that there are things we can do that
will be
real and valuable and that's why the allocation of the spectrum to our use is
viable.
I find it really amazing how hard it is to convince people that in this free
world, we all need to work together and sometimes that means you need to do
something that helps someone else. Why that is so hard for some people I am
just not sure. I guess if you want to have more taxes to pay, you could wait
for someone from the government to be charged to do everything. Then, I
guess,
we wouldn't need to have Amateur Radio frequencies for our use. One could
imagine that they'd go ahead and usurp all of our spectrum back to make sure
we
didn't interfere with their ability to do their job, while we are all setting
around talking about how great it is that we don't have to help...
Gregg Wonderly
W5GGW
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:24:25 -0400
From: Roger <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 10 meter turnstyle?
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Portable in the sense that you can have it prebuilt out of wire with
ropes at the end and haul it up in some trees.
And it comes close to omni directional with overhead coverage.
Roger
WA1KAT
On 10/25/2011 8:46 AM, Michael Schulz wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> On Oct 25, 2011, at 12:58 AM, Kevin Deane wrote:
>
>> If I suspended a few directors in front of a 10 meter dipole with a
reflector of course, would that work?
>>
> I tried several times to get the mode A downlink of AO-7 to work for me. I
tried a dipole, a vertical (ground mounted)
> and also a 3 element yagi but no dice. Next step is to get the vertical up
at 20 or 30ft. and see what happens then.
> YMMV.
>
> If it's for general antenna concerns, then yes but you wouldn't be able to
rotate it in a very effective way :). I built a
> rotatable dipole for 10m once using PVC pipe and then running the wire
alongside that pipe. Now one could of
> course build it out but then it becomes a matter of material as well in
order to keep it stable.
>
> 73 Mike K5TRI
>
>
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