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Today's Topics:
1. Re: knowledge required (Joe Leikhim)
2. Why should we support AMSAT? (Daniel Schultz)
3. Re: knowledge required (Art McBride)
4. Re: knowledge required (Gordon JC Pearce)
5. Next "HV Satcom" net! (Stuart Balanger)
6. Re: ARRISat-I over NA (Robert McGwier)
7. Re: Why should we support AMSAT? (Stefan Wagener)
8. SRMVU Question (Charles Suprin)
9. Re: SRMVU Question (Mark L. Hammond)
10. Re: knowledge required (Luc Leblanc)
11. Re: Prospero (Roger Duthie)
12. Re: knowledge required (N0JY)
13. Preamp Sale (Richard Lawn)
14. Re: SRMVU Question (Dinesh Cyanam)
15. Re: knowledge required (Michael Schulz)
16. Re: knowledge required (John Becker)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 01:07:42 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: knowledge required
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Whats with these kids today, they can't drive a car unless it has automatic
transmission. Don't get me going about these wimps and their "paddle
shifters". If you can't drive stick shift and double clutch(without
synchromesh), you should just stay home!
--> SNIP<--
Just give up on trying to explain to some of these drivers! They will never
understand what you, Peter and others on here are talking about...
The way the US has "dumbed down" the drivers license requirements produced
them...
--> SNAP<--
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
www.Leikhim.com
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 01:36:33 -0400
From: "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Why should we support AMSAT?
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> Why should we support AMSAT. I already have a cell phone. I could give you
> my number. We could set up a conference call. Everyone can talk and listen
> ...worldwide....and interrupt each other....for a lot less cost than
> putting up our own satellite. Better yet... there is the
> internet...Skype...complete with video. We can talk all over the world.
> Why should we spend money on our own satellites when somebody else
> has already paid the bill? No pile-ups,...Problem solved. :-))
>
> KM9U...just a fellow amateur wondering why. ;-))
President Kennedy answered your question better than I can:
"But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal?...... We choose to
go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are
easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and
measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one
that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which
we intend to win"
Now replace "We choose to go to the moon" with "We choose to design and build
our own satellites" and all the rest of the words apply just as well to us, 50
years later.
If you just want to make phone calls, you don't need to be a ham. Ham radio is
for the one kid in 100 who wants to pry the lid off the box and see how the
magic works.
The amateur radio satellite community paved the way for all of the small
satellites that came later. Amsat alumni founded many of the companies that
are now active in the small satellite business, the same industry which has
now bid up the price of secondary launches to a point where we can no longer
afford to launch satellites by passing the hat and selling software and
t-shirts at hamfests.
Why support Fox? Fox will send a message to the CubeSat community that they
should set their sights higher than that of building short lived beepsats that
are considered successful if they transmit a signal for one day before going
silent. The engineering needed to build a satellite for a 5 year or longer
mission will be eye-opening to some of these groups. The RF system must be
engineered for space flight, not adapted from data sheets and application
notes that are better suited for baby monitors or garage door openers, or
taking the plastic case off of a store bought handietalkie and hoping that it
will perform on orbit. We can use the energy and enthusiasm of the student
satellite builders, and they can learn from our 50 years of experience in
satellite communications.
FOX is a way for Amsat to show off our engineering prowess to the rest of the
satellite world. Providing communications packages ready to drop into a new
satellite could be our ticket in the future. If we can find a university or
agency that wants to put their experiment into HEO but doesn't want the hassle
of designing their communications system, that could be our ticket back to
HEO.
Dan Schultz N8FGV
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:40:57 -0700
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
To: "'Joe Leikhim'" <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: knowledge required
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Joe,
What did William F Cody say about horsemen that couldn't saddle their horse?
Art,
KC6UQH
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Behalf Of Joe Leikhim
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:08 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: knowledge required
Whats with these kids today, they can't drive a car unless it has automatic
transmission. Don't get me going about these wimps and their "paddle
shifters". If you can't drive stick shift and double clutch(without
synchromesh), you should just stay home!
--> SNIP<--
Just give up on trying to explain to some of these drivers! They will never
understand what you, Peter and others on here are talking about...
The way the US has "dumbed down" the drivers license requirements produced
them...
--> SNAP<--
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
www.Leikhim.com
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:31:38 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: knowledge required
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:31:44 +0200
"i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
> If the US has "dumbed down" the radio amateurs license requirements with
> less technical knowledge than before when the Morse Code and many more
> technical requirements were mandatory than the same problem apply to
> Amateur Radio.
>
> Don't worry about because the problem is the same in many countries.
The thing is, if you get one of the amateurs that is moaning about the
"dumbing down" of the amateur radio exams, and then get them to sit an exam,
then there's an excellent chance they'l fail it.
I'm guessing the "dumbing down" brigade are the same ones that I see on
14.070MHz with a signal 3kHz wide. Technology changes. Anyone can do
Morse, and I don't see why that's constantly held up as the Big Symptom Of
Decay. Can you do PSK31 effectively? No? Time for a spot of learning,
then. Knowledge required!
If you don't like all these new people coming into your hobby, then here's
the deal. I'll get off the bands with my four-year-old licence (despite
having been involved in the hobby for 30 years; it took me until my early
30s for me to have the time and disposable income to actually sit the exam)
*if* you'll get off my Internet.
Yes, that's right. Clear off. Cancel your ISP, and go somewhere else with
your top-posted, untrimmed replies, 200 names in the To: field and
ridiculous multi-line signature emails. Get your
bright-red-on-bright-blue-text animated-gif-laden javascript-mouseover-links
websites down. Get off the damn Internet, and stop ruining it for those of
us who were there first. Oh, and have a read of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
Man, I wish there was *any* kind of licence that people needed to hold
before they use the Internet.
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:42:12 -0400
From: Stuart Balanger <wa2bss@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx kt2d@xxxx.xxx
Cc: roster@xxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Next "HV Satcom" net!
Message-ID:
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*Hi all,
The next "HV Satcom" net is Thursday Oct. 27 @ 8PM;EDT;
5PM;PDT; -4 UTC) on the 146.970 MHz. repeater, w/ an Echo link node of
"N2EYH-L". More info.: www.hvsatcom.org
or the host (Mt Beacon ARC): www.wr2abb.org/
73,.Stu (WA2BSS)
PS As you can see I am back on E-Mail, & did it myself!
Also, (For Mt.Beacon ARC people), the next Mt.Beacon
ARC "In Person" Meeting in Nov. 8 Po'k Gallaria
(Community Room) 7PM (EST),
Eff. 6 Nov. we "Fall Back" 1 Hr.!
*
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:55:35 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-I over NA
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Consider the antenna a 10 dB attenuator, not a "no antenna". View that way,
you are just more likely to be using more EIRP than was intended for the
spacecraft to overcome it. Thank goodness for the "capture cone" on the
bottom of the antenna which protected your "favorite 10 dB pad"!
Bob
N4HY
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:22 AM, John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> It has been a while since we have had usable ARRISat-1
> passes over the US. We are now starting to get daylight
> passes in the early evening so it's time to start having
> some fun with this bird again.
>
> Last evening around 2203UTC, ARRISat-1 had a great pass
> over the south and eastern US. After listening to the
> voice and copying a SSTV picture, I switched to the linear
> transponder. My downlink was stronger than I have ever
> heard before and it stayed in there for the rest of the
> pass. Unfortunately there was no one to work. It's amazing
> that this bird can hear anything on UHF with virtually no
> antenna.
>
> If you haven't worked much ssb or cw on ARRISat-1, now is the
> time to start trying again. We won't have this opportunity
> forever.
>
> 73,
> John K8YSE
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:18:36 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Daniel Schultz <n8fgv@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Why should we support AMSAT?
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Hi Dan,
You have some good points and your thoughts are appreciated. But why
are you diminishing the students efforts by making these statements:
should set their sights higher than that of building short lived beepsats
that
> are considered successful if they transmit a signal for one day before going
> silent.
The RF system must be
> engineered for space flight, not adapted from data sheets and application
> notes that are better suited for baby monitors or garage door openers, or
> taking the plastic case off of a store bought handietalkie and hoping that
it
At least they are building, studying, learning and actually many times
successfully have an operational satellite.
Thanks for reading.
Stefan, VE4NSA
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:54:11 -0400
From: Charles Suprin <hamaa1vs@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SRMVU Question
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Hello,
Operators seem to be tracking SRMVU as Object D (Which should be 37841
a.k.a. 11058D if I follow things correctly). However the TLE link for
it at <http://dinesh.cyanam.net/dl/SRMSAT_TLEs.txt> lists it as object
B/37839/11058B.
What is the current preferred guess as to which object is SRMVU?
Thanks.
Charles
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:09:13 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Charles Suprin <hamaa1vs@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SRMVU Question
Message-ID: <oE9D1h0064ltuWb05E9QGK@xxxxx.xxx>
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Charles,
As of a few days ago, the SRMVU team seemed to support our notion that it's
really Object D.
Track it, and you'll see :)
73,
Mark N8MH
At 09:54 AM 10/23/2011 -0400, Charles Suprin wrote:
>Hello,
>
>
>Operators seem to be tracking SRMVU as Object D (Which should be 37841
>a.k.a. 11058D if I follow things correctly). However the TLE link for
>it at <http://dinesh.cyanam.net/dl/SRMSAT_TLEs.txt> lists it as object
>B/37839/11058B.
>
>What is the current preferred guess as to which object is SRMVU?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Charles
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 05:27:11 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: knowledge required
Message-ID: <4EA3DDEF.21462.2CC8B0F@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
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> Words of Wisdom!
>
> Life is too short to waste it in the past. Unfortunately, too many are
> trapped in their "good old days" mentality. What a pitty and waste.
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
As in any society there is always conflicting relationship between ages
group. For one some are too old and they are living in the past,
and for others they are too young inexperienced claiming their way is the
way to go.
Acquiring and gaining experience take's time and patience but today we want
immediate results "Plug and play era" discarding others past
experiences.
It's not a question of skills and competence it's a question of minding and
learning. Taking short cuts to achieved lower goals can only
lead after couple years to disappointments and lack of interest. That's why
those who where lucky to work on HEO satellite says it's the
only one way to go if we want to create a sustainable critical mass of
skilled amateur satellite operator.
It's the very true nature of Ham radio to communicate over the greatest
distance "DX" those who are satisfied by the fact they can reach a
space cube are in a learning process. That's why those cube sat should be
considered an entry class satellite. Exponentially increasing
entry class satellite does not provided on the long term any viable solution
aside of saving the furniture.IMHO.
Lets say the better than nothing minding who should be considered as a way
to deal with exception is now a standard.
If we want to know where to go we should always also know where we come
from! If finding an affordable HEO launcher is an obstacle trying
to avoid instead of facing the obstacle is not a solution its'a more a lack
of courage and faith than anything else that's why AMSAT-DL are
still engaged toward P3E and Mars. It takes time and patience.
Ask those who are working EME why they spent a lot of time and money to
achieved their goals? they will all tell you this the only way to
go if we want to be able to work the moon HT'S and rubber duckies and tape
measure antenna are not enough to reach the far distant moon and
the ultimate "DX" contact. If you just bear in mind this you will be able to
understand why those "old" operators wants for you "increased
your range of communication in time and distance" they only wished that you
can also enjoyed world-wide communication through satellites.
The chosen words are not always what they should be but bottom line they are
only want the best for you.
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
HTTP://www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:14:45 +0100
From: Roger Duthie <rjaduthie@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Ronan <jpronans@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Prospero
Message-ID: <4EA41345.7040906@xxxx.xxx.xx.xx>
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John
On 20/10/11 09:31, John Ronan wrote:
> On 19 Oct 2011, at 14:29, Roger Duthie wrote:
>
>> Some of you may have heard that a team in the UK are trying to re-contact
and old British launched satellite for the anniversary of its launch (28th
October 1971).
>>
>> We've been given a licence to transmit and will be testing our
re-engineered ground-segment in the next fortnight. The passes we are going
to concentrate on will be as far out west as possible, as to minimise QRM
from Europe. Earth is a lot more EM noisy than it was in 1971.
>>
>> If anyone in the UK wants to try and tune in to the downlink, you can
help ID any response we get from the old bird. The passes are summarised
here:
>>
>>
https://public.sheet.zoho.com/public/rjaduthie/prospero-passes-in-the-next-for
tnight
>>
>> There are other passes, though these are the ones which are out west.
We'll see how we do.
>>
>> -Roger
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Roger J A Duthie
>> m0rja
>>
> Hi,
>
> Is it just a recording you are after? or how do you suggest one tries to
gather useful data?
>
> Regards
> John
> EI7IG
Hi -
A recording would be grand. We may have heard something on Friday,
though we're still piecing together what we can expect. If recordings
are made of the times when Prospero is to pass then we can get an idea
of what everyone is hearing now.
On Friday we listened to a complete pass and definitely heard something
different when Prospero was in our vicinity. Whether this was
coincidence with some QRM we don't know. As long as others aren't
transmitting at the same time as us on the Prospero frequencies, we have
a reasonable chance to apply the scientific method to be certain of what
we're listening to.
We probably won't make another attempt till Monday - and we will
probably try the passes at around 1800.
There is information on this on the AMSAT-UK site front page: this
includes the passes we've marked out for definite attempts (we may try
others) and there are some archived recordings of Prospero to compare to.
- Rr.
m0rja
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:44:31 -0500
From: N0JY <n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: knowledge required
Message-ID: <4EA4365F.4020102@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Yes! Let's don't overlook the fact that designing and building an
EasySat CubeSat also gives us the opportunity to explore, learn, and try
out new technologies that can be later used for higher satellites when
the opportunity comes, and expanded functionality on LEOs as well. I
don't think AMSAT-NA is stuck in a dumbing down, or a "good old days"
mentality, I think we're taking the lemons we have (although I don't for
a minute consider ANY opportunity to build a satellite as lemons) and
making lemonade, if you will. The art is still advancing. The fact is,
it has advanced so far that it seems so EASY to many people (as did the
Space Shuttle) that it appeared not much of a feat to send one up a few
times a year. A handheld radio and a handheld antenna... "old timers"
(and I'm one of them) would never have dreamed that they could reliably
communicate over a 2000 mile path through a satellite with such ease and
such simple gear, 50 years ago!
By the way, 50 years ago Oscar 1 was launched and it was an amazing
feat. Just 4 years after the first satellite ever was launched, hams
were in space! We do this voluntarily, we do it because we love it, we
do it "because it's there". That's what makes Amateur Radio so fun!
73,
Jerry
N0JY
On 10/23/2011 4:27 AM, Luc Leblanc wrote:
>
>> Words of Wisdom!
>>
>> Life is too short to waste it in the past. Unfortunately, too many are
>> trapped in their "good old days" mentality. What a pitty and waste.
>>
>> Stefan, VE4NSA
> As in any society there is always conflicting relationship between ages
group. For one some are too old and they are living in the past,
> and for others they are too young inexperienced claiming their way is the
way to go.
>
> Acquiring and gaining experience take's time and patience but today we
want immediate results "Plug and play era" discarding others past
> experiences.
>
> It's not a question of skills and competence it's a question of minding
and learning. Taking short cuts to achieved lower goals can only
> lead after couple years to disappointments and lack of interest. That's
why those who where lucky to work on HEO satellite says it's the
> only one way to go if we want to create a sustainable critical mass of
skilled amateur satellite operator.
>
> It's the very true nature of Ham radio to communicate over the greatest
distance "DX" those who are satisfied by the fact they can reach a
> space cube are in a learning process. That's why those cube sat should be
considered an entry class satellite. Exponentially increasing
> entry class satellite does not provided on the long term any viable
solution aside of saving the furniture.IMHO.
>
> Lets say the better than nothing minding who should be considered as a way
to deal with exception is now a standard.
>
> If we want to know where to go we should always also know where we come
from! If finding an affordable HEO launcher is an obstacle trying
> to avoid instead of facing the obstacle is not a solution its'a more a
lack of courage and faith than anything else that's why AMSAT-DL are
> still engaged toward P3E and Mars. It takes time and patience.
>
> Ask those who are working EME why they spent a lot of time and money to
achieved their goals? they will all tell you this the only way to
> go if we want to be able to work the moon HT'S and rubber duckies and tape
measure antenna are not enough to reach the far distant moon and
> the ultimate "DX" contact. If you just bear in mind this you will be able
to understand why those "old" operators wants for you "increased
> your range of communication in time and distance" they only wished that
you can also enjoyed world-wide communication through satellites.
> The chosen words are not always what they should be but bottom line they
are only want the best for you.
>
>
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> HTTP://www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:01:52 -0400
From: Richard Lawn <rjlawn@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamp Sale
Message-ID:
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I have 2 used 70cm preamps for sale, one working and one not.
Mirage KP-1 (working) in-shack w/manual ------$100 shipped
ARR SP432VDG (not working & was damaged with too much RF which means its
about a $22 repair from ARR) -----$50 shipped
If I don't sell them soon I'll list them on eBay which I'd rather avoid.
Rick
W2JAZ
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:03:40 -0400
From: Dinesh Cyanam <dinesh@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>, Charles Suprin
<hamaa1vs@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SRMVU Question
Message-ID: <A850A0E0-1232-4161-A513-466CBD63335E@xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi Charles,
As Mark said, we are now using the Object D to track SRMVU.
I have now updated the TLEs at http://dinesh.cyanam.net/dl/SRMSAT_TLEs.txt
to reflect the change. Sorry about that.
73
KC2YQJ
Dinesh
On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
> Charles,
>
> As of a few days ago, the SRMVU team seemed to support our notion that
it's really Object D.
>
> Track it, and you'll see :)
>
> 73,
>
> Mark N8MH
>
>
> At 09:54 AM 10/23/2011 -0400, Charles Suprin wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> Operators seem to be tracking SRMVU as Object D (Which should be 37841
>> a.k.a. 11058D if I follow things correctly). However the TLE link for
>> it at <http://dinesh.cyanam.net/dl/SRMSAT_TLEs.txt> lists it as object
>> B/37839/11058B.
>>
>> What is the current preferred guess as to which object is SRMVU?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Charles
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:05:47 -0500
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: knowledge required
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Jerry,
On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:44 AM, N0JY wrote:
> Yes! Let's don't overlook the fact that designing and building an EasySat
CubeSat also gives us the opportunity to explore, learn, and try out new
technologies that can be later used for higher satellites when the
opportunity comes, and expanded functionality on LEOs as well. I don't
think AMSAT-NA is stuck in a dumbing down, or a "good old days" mentality, I
think we're taking the lemons we have (although I don't for a minute
consider ANY opportunity to build a satellite as lemons)
I don't think this discussion is about AMSAT-NA/DL/UK you name it being
stuck in that discussion. I do believe that actually the people that matter
are rather
busy driving change than waste their time and energy complaining about the
idiots that come to ham radio today. They don't have time for that. This
discussion
is more about the negativity spewed by some people within this hobby (not
just the satellite community) and how it is distracting and potentially
driving away
people that consider twice where to spend their spare time. If I were 20
years old right now and I would have to decide if I would like to spend my
time with some
80+ year olds who don't do more than spill "Get OFF my lawn" comments rather
than share their wisdom or I could spend my time building let's say software
and
spending my time with people who are constantly interested in pushing
boundaries and sharing their experience (e.g. the Open Source community)
than it would
be an easy call. And that's what's happening. Is it much more exciting to
build software vs. a radio? Maybe, maybe not. But if we as a community fail
to share the passion about this very fact, we loose.
This whole dumbing down of the license requirements is getting old quick.
I'd rather have 20 amateurs who don't know CW but have the knack for
building stuff than one great 30wpm CW operator who couldn't distinguish a
resistor from a transformer if his life depended on it (this was an example
to make a point for those folks on the literal Internet train).
73 Mike K5TRI
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:36:42 -0500
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: knowledge required
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All in the name of "political correctness" the FCC in all their
(lack) of wisdom did away with the requirement of the FCC
1st or 2nd class licence to work at a TV or AM FM radio station
and repair a 2 way radio. As well as dumb-ing down the ham service.
10-4 ?
The only thing it did for folks like myself with such was guarantee
a job for life. it was not until the FCC fines started coming in for
such silly things as signal off freq - too wide - audio to hi or low.
color burst hi, low, off freq.
Then many of the stations went back to requiring one to get a job
on their own.
At that point many required certification from the SBE (society of
broadcast engineers) who did require the license. That did 2 things
left the station off the hook and made sure they was getting someone
that knew their stuff. To counter what the station had done the FCC
then did away with the license once and for all . again in the name of
political correctness. That was about the time I up and quit. I was not
about to be a sitter and fixing other peoples SNAFU.
I still have mine and it's good for life.
There just is no replacement for knowledge.
John
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