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Today's Topics:
1. knowledge required (Dave Guimont)
2. I: Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (Francesco Grappi)
3. Re: G5500 Elevation Rotator Short Circuit? (Clive Wallis)
4. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (Stefan Wagener)
5. ARRISat-I over NA (John Papay)
6. Re: New Sats (Stefan Wagener)
7. Re: ARRISat-I over NA (Alan P. Biddle)
8. Re: New Sats (Stephen E. Belter)
9. Re: New Sats (Alan P. Biddle)
10. Re: New Sats (Stephen E. Belter)
11. Re: knowledge required (Michael Schulz)
12. Re: New Sats (Stefan Wagener)
13. DataBackup issue with SatPC32 V. 12.8b (Erich Eichmann)
14. Re: New Sats (N0JY)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:10:16 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] knowledge required
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Hi Dom,
Just give up on trying to explain to some of these new
operators! They will never understand what you, Peter, and others on
here are talking about....
The way the US has "dumbed down" the license requirements produced them...
GO FOR P3E!!!!
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:17:58 +0200
From: "Francesco Grappi" <f.grappi@xxx.xx>
To: "'Amsat - BBs'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] I: Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <2D9EA28D56BF4352838FD3C3FC3B5586@xxxxxx>
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Me too !! fast and easy update, thank you Erich DK1TB for your effort !!
73" Frank IW4DVZ
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Per conto
di
Mark Hammond
Inviato: venerd? 21 ottobre 2011 22.13
A: Wayne Estes; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Oggetto: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
I used data restore and it used the backup info! No need to reenter here
going
from a to b.
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: October 21, 2011 3:24 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
WA4SCA wrote:
You can run the update on a registered version, and it will be registered.
A good idea to put the registration info in a safe place, just in case,
though Martha can generate it for you.
W9AE replies:
I had to re-enter my registration code when upgrading from 12.8a to 12.8b.
Previous SatPC32 upgrades did not require the registration code to be
re-entered.
Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:26:17 +0100
From: Clive Wallis <clive@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <ldeffenb@xxxxxxxx.xx>, amsat
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: G5500 Elevation Rotator Short Circuit?
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Hi Lynn,
Many thanks for your comments.
Good point, although the contacts are normally closed, and open when the
motor over-runs. So the usual problem of poor contact wouldn't apply.
However, it's possible that the contacts may have welded together.
I think that to fully protect the motor it needs a controller
to limit the time that current is supplied to the motor, to a safe
value. A nice little PIC project!
BTW I've recently had a problem with my central heating where a micro
switch stuck in the ON position, leaving the boiler firing, when it
should have been off. However, this was a normally open contact.
73 Clive G3CWV
Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK
On 16/10/2011 13:16, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:
> I'm not familiar with rotors, actually, but micro switches that aren't
> switched often (like only when you run the rotor to the stop, which I'm
> assuming most people try to avoid) kind of limit the effectiveness of
> "self-wiping" or "self-cleaning" contacts. I'm just comparing it
> mentally with my doorbell button that needs a bunch of "vigorous
> activations" (aka pounding on it) periodically to keep function on a
> "push once, ring" basis.
>
> So, unless you make a habit of running the rotor to the stops, the
> switches may not function when/if they ARE needed.
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:18:05 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
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Sorry to disappoint you.
At this point AMSAT-DL has not been able to secure any funding to
secure a launch (not even from their own government) and the rant
against cubesats at the UK colloquium by has only hurt them even more.
Unless this community learns to work together and sees the benefits in
all satellite programs and supports each other, we are only hurting
ourselves. Why is so difficult to understand?
Stefn, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:11 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
> Hi Bruce,KK5DO
>
> AMSAT-DL is working very hard on P3-E and P5-A and in the near future they
> will be able to launch P3-E
>
> Work on P3-E is continuing and AMSAT-DL is busy looking for launch
> possibilities and other ways for financing it, i.e. on coat-tails of the
> P5 Mars Mission.
>
> Indeed, P3-E is not a dream but a reality and AMSAT-DL need the support of
> the community.
>
> There will only a P3-E, if we all really want it..
>
> If you want to support P3-E, than please visit
> http://www.p3e-satellite.org/?lang=en_EN and make a direct donation to
> the project - THANKS!
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce" <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
>
> i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website.
> http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html
>
> problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were
> fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what
> is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it.
>
> if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and
> they will construct a heo for you to launch.
>
> otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those
> building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not
> without a lot of money.
>
> 73...bruce
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,NH6VB
>>
>> I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening
>> on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat
>> and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
>>
>> To give ?Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent
>> to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in
>> wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like
>> into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality
>> for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt
>> each other at the same time.
>>
>> Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan
>> ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
>>
>> Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV
>> file bounced back to me.
>>
>> 73" de
>>
>> i8CVS Domenico
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
>> To: "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
>> Cc: <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat
>>> community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite
>>> satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a
>>> cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the
>>> spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with
>>> Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
>>>
>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>> Stefan,
>>>> With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO?
>>>> I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say.
>>>> But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot.
>>>> De Peter, NH6VB
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
>>>>> From: wageners@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>> To: arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>> CC: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they
>>>>> are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs
>>>>> with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:22:22 -0400
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRISat-I over NA
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It has been a while since we have had usable ARRISat-1
passes over the US. We are now starting to get daylight
passes in the early evening so it's time to start having
some fun with this bird again.
Last evening around 2203UTC, ARRISat-1 had a great pass
over the south and eastern US. After listening to the
voice and copying a SSTV picture, I switched to the linear
transponder. My downlink was stronger than I have ever
heard before and it stayed in there for the rest of the
pass. Unfortunately there was no one to work. It's amazing
that this bird can hear anything on UHF with virtually no
antenna.
If you haven't worked much ssb or cw on ARRISat-1, now is the
time to start trying again. We won't have this opportunity
forever.
73,
John K8YSE
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:42:11 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
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Yes,
Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working
closely together with these projects and having a tangible influence
in their hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always
wondered why AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication
packages, (Data, Rx, Tx) for cubesats for sale, which automatically
would have a set of interesting protocols, tools and options embedded.
Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix
would potentially simplify the task. The end user could spend more
time and effort focusing on experiments and other additional payload.
Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it
might something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other
following cubesats by AMSAT.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would
probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more
than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret
words, stuff like that.
>
> Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. ?:)
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:43:52 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'John Papay'" <john@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-I over NA
Message-ID: <D3DE713187944FF0A3D07579F83A9EF9@xxxxxx>
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John,
Good to know. Did you notice many dropouts? I know the spin rate was
dropping, but haven't seen any hard figures in several weeks.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of John Papay
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:22 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRISat-I over NA
It has been a while since we have had usable ARRISat-1
passes over the US. We are now starting to get daylight
passes in the early evening so it's time to start having
some fun with this bird again.
Last evening around 2203UTC, ARRISat-1 had a great pass
over the south and eastern US. After listening to the
voice and copying a SSTV picture, I switched to the linear
transponder. My downlink was stronger than I have ever
heard before and it stayed in there for the rest of the
pass. Unfortunately there was no one to work. It's amazing
that this bird can hear anything on UHF with virtually no
antenna.
If you haven't worked much ssb or cw on ARRISat-1, now is the
time to start trying again. We won't have this opportunity
forever.
73,
John K8YSE
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:49:27 -0400
From: "Stephen E. Belter" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Message-ID:
<51668A33220E754EABE6583357ECEE2D7A106BEC@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Stefan,
I believe that AMSAT-NA plans to offer semi-complete communications packages
to the Cubesat community. That is one of the expected outcomes of the Fox
project, which is AMSAT-NA's first cubesat.
73, Steve N9IP
--
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stefan Wagener
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:42 AM
To: Kevin Deane
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Yes,
Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working closely
together with these projects and having a tangible influence in their
hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always wondered why
AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication packages, (Data, Rx, Tx)
for cubesats for sale, which automatically would have a set of interesting
protocols, tools and options embedded.
Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix would potentially simplify
the task. The end user could spend more time and effort focusing on
experiments and other additional payload.
Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it might
something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other following
cubesats by AMSAT.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would
probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more
than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret
words, stuff like that.
>
> Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. ?:)
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:59:23 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Stephen E. Belter'" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Message-ID: <4BB8E455854149219331BD0ED3FFC9E7@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Stefan,
As Steve says, providing turnkey communications is of significant interest,
both to AMSAT and potential users. Of course, one always has to be aware,
and wary of ITAR issues for even such relatively mundane equipment.
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stephen E. Belter
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:49 AM
To: Stefan Wagener
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Stefan,
I believe that AMSAT-NA plans to offer semi-complete communications packages
to the Cubesat community. That is one of the expected outcomes of the Fox
project, which is AMSAT-NA's first cubesat.
73, Steve N9IP
--
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stefan Wagener
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:42 AM
To: Kevin Deane
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Yes,
Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working closely
together with these projects and having a tangible influence in their
hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always wondered why
AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication packages, (Data, Rx, Tx)
for cubesats for sale, which automatically would have a set of interesting
protocols, tools and options embedded.
Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix would potentially simplify
the task. The end user could spend more time and effort focusing on
experiments and other additional payload.
Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it might
something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other following
cubesats by AMSAT.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would
probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more
than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret
words, stuff like that.
>
> Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. ?:)
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:13:10 -0400
From: "Stephen E. Belter" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Message-ID:
<51668A33220E754EABE6583357ECEE2D7A106BED@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Stefan - Alan is right, ITAR is a severe barrier to most cooperative
projects. :-(
Nonetheless, it was mentioned several times at the 2010 AMSAT-NA Symposium
and other places that we want to place our RF package on university
CubeSats. For example, these quotes from the AMSAT-Fox news on the website:
"AMSAT's flexible, CubeSat compatible software defined transponder is a new
approach providing a robust and reliable radio link for future CubeSats
allowing university teams to concentrate on their scientific objectives.
Future CubeSat missions using AMSAT Fox technology will have an amateur
space service capable transponder aboard which may continue to be utilized
by radio amateurs once the primary scientific objectives of the University
research flights have been met."
The development and launch of ARISSat-1 has been a significant step towards
our next generation satellite platform. Fox will take the lessons learned
from ARISSat-1 and will repackage the hardware to fit the CubeSat form
factor. To quote Tony AA2TX and AMSAT-NA VP of Engineering "When the Fox
project is completed, we will have something concrete to offer."
So that's the plan on the CubeSat front. The AMSAT-NA board also continues
to look for MEO and HEO opportunities, and for a possible ARISSat-2.
73, Steve N9IP
--
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan P. Biddle [mailto:APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:59 AM
To: Stephen E. Belter
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Stefan,
As Steve says, providing turnkey communications is of significant interest,
both to AMSAT and potential users. Of course, one always has to be aware,
and wary of ITAR issues for even such relatively mundane equipment.
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stephen E. Belter
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:49 AM
To: Stefan Wagener
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Stefan,
I believe that AMSAT-NA plans to offer semi-complete communications packages
to the Cubesat community. That is one of the expected outcomes of the Fox
project, which is AMSAT-NA's first cubesat.
73, Steve N9IP
--
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stefan Wagener
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:42 AM
To: Kevin Deane
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Yes,
Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working closely
together with these projects and having a tangible influence in their
hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always wondered why
AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication packages, (Data, Rx, Tx)
for cubesats for sale, which automatically would have a set of interesting
protocols, tools and options embedded.
Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix would potentially simplify
the task. The end user could spend more time and effort focusing on
experiments and other additional payload.
Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it might
something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other following
cubesats by AMSAT.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people
> would
probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more
than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret
words, stuff like that.
>
> Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. ?:)
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:48:36 -0500
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: knowledge required
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And luckily there aren't too many people who are so full of themselves and
view themselves as
superior just because they have been in the hobby for so long. How dare
newer and god forbid
younger people come into your kingdom and claim a spot by virtue of passing
a test that not by
their fault has been made simpler.
Instead of parking your ass on the high horse, get off of it and try to
educate in a way that's actually
helpful to people. I guess that concept doesn't really appeal to you?
What I see on this list is either the old farts wishing back the good old
times of AO-10 etc. or the new
crop who are simply happy to work the FM birds with a HT and a store bought
antenna. Instead of
whining that nobody is paying for your next big toy (P3E) to go into orbit
why not try to invoke some
passion in the new folks. Light a spark for what it really means to let's
say work a linear bird and
understand it. The attitude I often see here doesn't really help.
I guess your understanding of the ham spirit of helping others and sharing
knowledge has been dumbed
down in the process.
73 Mike K5TRI
On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Dave Guimont wrote:
> Hi Dom,
>
> Just give up on trying to explain to some of these new operators! They
will never understand what you, Peter, and others on here are talking
about....
>
> The way the US has "dumbed down" the license requirements produced them...
>
> GO FOR P3E!!!!
>
>
>
> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
> dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
>
> Disagree: I learn....
>
> Pulling for P3E...
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:58:57 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Stephen E. Belter" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
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Excellent!
Just made my financial support for Fox!
Stefan, VE4NSA
Go CubeSat Go
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Stephen E. Belter <seb@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Stefan - Alan is right, ITAR is a severe barrier to most cooperative
projects. ?:-(
>
> Nonetheless, it was mentioned several times at the 2010 AMSAT-NA Symposium
and other places that we want to place our RF package on university
CubeSats. ?For example, these quotes from the AMSAT-Fox news on the website:
?"AMSAT's flexible, CubeSat compatible software defined transponder is a new
approach providing a robust and reliable radio link for future CubeSats
allowing university teams to concentrate on their scientific objectives.
?Future CubeSat missions using AMSAT Fox technology will have an amateur
space service capable transponder aboard which may continue to be utilized
by radio amateurs once the primary scientific objectives of the University
research flights have been met."
>
> The development and launch of ARISSat-1 has been a significant step
towards our next generation satellite platform. ?Fox will take the lessons
learned from ARISSat-1 and will repackage the hardware to fit the CubeSat
form factor. ?To quote Tony AA2TX and AMSAT-NA VP of Engineering "When the
Fox project is completed, we will have something concrete to offer."
>
> So that's the plan on the CubeSat front. ?The AMSAT-NA board also
continues to look for MEO and HEO opportunities, and for a possible ARISSat-2.
>
> 73, Steve N9IP
> --
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan P. Biddle [mailto:APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxxx
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:59 AM
> To: Stephen E. Belter
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
>
> Stefan,
>
> As Steve says, providing turnkey communications is of significant
interest, both to AMSAT and potential users. ?Of course, one always has to
be aware, and wary of ITAR issues for even such relatively mundane equipment.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stephen E. Belter
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:49 AM
> To: Stefan Wagener
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
>
> Stefan,
>
> I believe that AMSAT-NA plans to offer semi-complete communications
packages to the Cubesat community. ?That is one of the expected outcomes of
the Fox project, which is AMSAT-NA's first cubesat.
>
> 73, Steve N9IP
> --
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stefan Wagener
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:42 AM
> To: Kevin Deane
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
>
> Yes,
>
> Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working closely
together with these projects and having a tangible influence in their
hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always wondered why
AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication packages, (Data, Rx, Tx)
for cubesats for sale, which automatically would have a set of interesting
protocols, tools and options embedded.
> Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix would potentially
simplify the task. The end user could spend more time and effort focusing on
experiments and other additional payload.
> Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it might
something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other following
cubesats by AMSAT.
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people
>> would
> probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something
more than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and
secret words, stuff like that.
>>
>> Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. ?:)
>>
>> Kevin
>> KF7MYK
>>
>>
>>
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>
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:12:17 +0200
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DataBackup issue with SatPC32 V. 12.8b
Message-ID: <6221E4036B8F4D21A58000401E491040@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hello,
the data file "Program.SQF" of SatPC32 v.12.8b includes the program names
DataBackup and TimeSync. The previous versions of Program.SQF did not (by
default). If you save your previous data with DataBackup and restore it
after the installation of 12.8b the program will replace the new Program.SQF
with the previous one without the new program names. To fix that add the
program names DataBackup and/or TimeSync (without extensions) manually to
the file Program.SQF. The file can be opened and edited from the SatPC32
menu "?", "Auxiliary files", "Program.SQF". It contains also the necessary
hints.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:27:30 -0500
From: N0JY <n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Message-ID: <4EA2FD02.40704@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Thank you, Stefan!
73
Jerry
N0JY
On 10/22/2011 10:58 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote:
> Excellent!
>
> Just made my financial support for Fox!
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> Go CubeSat Go
>
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