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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (nh6vb Scheller)
   2. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (Wayne Estes)
   3. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (Alan P. Biddle)
   4. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (Mark Hammond)
   5. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (Stefan Wagener)
   6. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (nh6vb Scheller)
   7. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (Stefan Wagener)
   8. FP/KV1J in GN17 25 Oct - 01 Nov (KV1J)
   9. FW:  Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (Stephen  E. Belter)
  10. APRS satellite prediction (Steve Daniels)
  11. New Sats (Kevin Deane)
  12. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (i8cvs)
  13. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (KM9U)
  14. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (Bruce)
  15. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (i8cvs)
  16. Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released (i8cvs)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:11:39 -1000
From: nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
To: <arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx>, <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>, <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
amsat-bb	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <BAY147-W38CB3FF87C4472D3F10EFDE1E80@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


There are no stupid questioms, only answers.


> From: arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx
> To: domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xxx w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:23:45 -0400
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
> Domenico...If you have a problem with AMSAT-NA, please donate to whoever is
> bending to your desires the most, and save the rest of us the pain of your
> posts!
.......snip............

> Hi Wayne ,W9AE
>
> To support what AMSAT ? AMSAT-DL to help for P3E or AMSAT-NA
> to help for very small the FM Microsat or Cubesat ?
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico 		 	   		

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:24:04 -0700
From: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <4EA1C6D4.1010100@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

WA4SCA wrote:

You can run the update on a registered version, and it will be registered.
A good idea to put the registration info in a safe place, just in case,
though Martha can generate it for you.

W9AE replies:

I had to re-enter my registration code when upgrading from 12.8a to 12.8b.

Previous SatPC32 upgrades did not require the registration code to be
re-entered.

Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:37:03 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Wayne Estes'" <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <CD0483AC6E6244AFA743C7D050CB71A8@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Wayne,

WA4SCA writes:

Did not need to reenter the registration code.  Still a good idea to keep it
safe.  ;)

Alan
WA4SCA



-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Wayne Estes
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:24 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released

WA4SCA wrote:

You can run the update on a registered version, and it will be registered.
A good idea to put the registration info in a safe place, just in case,
though Martha can generate it for you.

W9AE replies:

I had to re-enter my registration code when upgrading from 12.8a to 12.8b.

Previous SatPC32 upgrades did not require the registration code to be
re-entered.

Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:13:22 -0400
From: Mark Hammond <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <4ea1d261.241a640a.2109.78a2@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I used data restore and it used the backup info!  No need to reenter here
going from a to b.



-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: October 21, 2011 3:24 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released

WA4SCA wrote:

You can run the update on a registered version, and it will be registered.
A good idea to put the registration info in a safe place, just in case,
though Martha can generate it for you.

W9AE replies:

I had to re-enter my registration code when upgrading from 12.8a to 12.8b.

Previous SatPC32 upgrades did not require the registration code to be
re-entered.

Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: KM9U <arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHCm_4vRoEtwXYyUDbo=wgFej4Xe+LO9eCTLMync2iXKHA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Thank you!!!!

I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they
are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs
with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!

Stefan, VE4NSA

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:23 PM, KM9U <arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Domenico...If you have a problem with AMSAT-NA, please donate to whoever is
> bending to your desires the most, and save the rest of us the pain of your
> posts!
>
> -----Original Message----- From: i8cvs
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 08:09
> To: Wayne Estes ; Amsat - BBs
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Estes" <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:27 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
>> SatPC32 version 12.8b is available for download at
>> http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadeng.htm
>>
> ://www.amsat-na.com/store/category.php?c=Software
>>
>> DK1TB, the author of SatPC32 has donated the software to AMSAT. ?All
>> sales of SatPC32 are used to support AMSAT.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne Estes W9AE
>> Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
>
> Hi Wayne ,W9AE
>
> To support what AMSAT ? AMSAT-DL to help for P3E or AMSAT-NA
> to help for very small the FM ?Microsat or Cubesat ?
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:12:52 -1000
From: nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
To: <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>, <arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <BAY147-W20E1B69BFF2A4A0D7528BCE1E80@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Stefan,
With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO?
I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say.
But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot.
De Peter, NH6VB


> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
> From: wageners@xxxxx.xxx
> To: arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx
> CC: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
> Thank you!!!!
>
> I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they
> are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs
> with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
 		 	   		

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:25:28 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
Cc: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHAxBsMmtD4-v2CyLo2x8DftDqRrgMdHt84F+U_TJEe5_Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Thanks,

I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat
community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite
satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a
cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the
spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with
Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.

Stefan, VE4NSA






On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Stefan,
> With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO?
> I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say.
> But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot.
> De Peter, NH6VB
>
>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
>> From: wageners@xxxxx.xxx
>> To: arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx
>> CC: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>>
>> Thank you!!!!
>>
>> I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they
>> are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs
>> with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
>>
>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:34:19 -0400
From: "KV1J" <kv1j@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FP/KV1J in GN17 25 Oct - 01 Nov
Message-ID: <6CFD8C1CFFD2470A960D462D722FC986@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I will be returning to the island of Miquelon, grid GN17, next week.  I will
be operating mostly on the low bands but will have an Arrow 145/435 MHz
antenna and an FT-817 to work the FM birds.  As in the past, I will try to
catch some passes when I take breaks and when the weather allows
me to go outside.  It is often cold, windy and raining or snowing.  Also with
the great band conditions on 12M and 10M I may have less breaks as in the
past!!

I will be traveling with FP/KV1E so there is a chance you might hear
his call as well.  If I do get a chance to get on from the island of Saint
Pierre
while traveling to and from Miquelon, I will be grid GN16.

My web site for the trip is -
http://www.kv1j.com/fp/october11.html

73,  Eric  KV1J  FP/KV1J



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:36:22 -0400
From: "Stephen  E. Belter" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW:  Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID:
<51668A33220E754EABE6583357ECEE2D7A106BE2@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I also used the data restore utility *before* running 12.8b.  Then when I
ran 12.8b, it showed as a registered copy (with my name and call).

I also caught Mark's comment and copied the 12.8b version of PROGRAM.SQF
over the backup copy from 12.8a.  The result is the data backup utility and
time utilities are available from the Program menu.

73, Steve N9IP
--
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Mark Hammond
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 4:13 PM
To: Wayne Estes; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released

I used data restore and it used the backup info!  No need to reenter here
going from a to b.



-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: October 21, 2011 3:24 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released

WA4SCA wrote:

You can run the update on a registered version, and it will be registered.
A good idea to put the registration info in a safe place, just in case,
though Martha can generate it for you.

W9AE replies:

I had to re-enter my registration code when upgrading from 12.8a to 12.8b.

Previous SatPC32 upgrades did not require the registration code to be
re-entered.

Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik

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Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:05:23 +0100
From: "Steve Daniels" <steve@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS satellite prediction
Message-ID: <37E7F6EE92B4465A893E9BF5E5B10A36@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Those of you with APRS capability can query a system to get the next
satellite pass for a specific satellite, the idea being for those with APRS
capable radios, to get information on an upcoming satellite pass and
information during the pass.

The reply format is designed to be short and to the point to maximise the
chances of an RF station receiving the information.
More info here http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:satsrv

Feedback welcome

Steve Daniels
G6UIM



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:13:12 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Sats
Message-ID: <COL107-W385069504D042A4E284B183E80@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"







With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would
probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more
than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret
words, stuff like that.

Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think.  :)

Kevin
KF7MYK


 		 	   		

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 03:54:39 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>,
"Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <000c01cc905d$8faade80$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Peter,NH6VB

I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening
on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat
and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E

To give  Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent
to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in
wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like
into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality
for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt
each other at the same time.

Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan
ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.

Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV
file bounced back to me.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
Cc: <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released

> Thanks,
>
> I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat
> community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite
> satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a
> cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the
> spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with
> Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> > Stefan,
> > With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO?
> > I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say.
> > But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot.
> > De Peter, NH6VB
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
> >> From: wageners@xxxxx.xxx
> >> To: arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx
> >> CC: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
> >>
> >> Thank you!!!!
> >>
> >> I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they
> >> are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs
> >> with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
> >>
> >> Stefan, VE4NSA



------------------------------

Message: 13
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:35:43 -0400
From: "KM9U" <arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
"nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>, "Stefan Wagener"
<wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <0EAA82BC70194ADCB30576AEB3036D08@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Now I understand!
Why should we support AMSAT. I already have a cell phone. I could give you
my number. We could set up a conference call. Everyone can talk and listen
...worldwide....and interrupt each other....for a lot less cost than putting
up our own satellite. Better yet... there is the internet...Skype...complete
with video. We can talk all over the world. Why should we spend money on our
own satellites when somebody else has already paid the bill? No pile-ups,
...Problem solved.   :-))

KM9U...just a fellow amateur wondering why. ;-))



-----Original Message-----
From: i8cvs
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 21:54
To: AMSAT-BB ; nh6vb Scheller ; Stefan Wagener
Cc: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released

Hi Peter,NH6VB

I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening
on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat
and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E

To give  Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent
to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in
wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like
into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality
for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt
each other at the same time.

Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan
ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.

Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV
file bounced back to me.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
Cc: <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released

> Thanks,
>
> I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat
> community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite
> satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a
> cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the
> spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with
> Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> > Stefan,
> > With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO?
> > I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say.
> > But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot.
> > De Peter, NH6VB
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
> >> From: wageners@xxxxx.xxx
> >> To: arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx
> >> CC: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
> >>
> >> Thank you!!!!
> >>
> >> I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they
> >> are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs
> >> with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
> >>
> >> Stefan, VE4NSA

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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:36:15 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>, amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <9861CF75-8AA0-4E0A-BF67-965336E3A8F1@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website.
http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html

problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were
fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what
is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it.

if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and
they will construct a heo for you to launch.

otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those
building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not
without a lot of money.

73...bruce

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:

> Hi Peter,NH6VB
>
> I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening
> on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat
> and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
>
> To give  Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent
> to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in
> wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like
> into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality
> for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt
> each other at the same time.
>
> Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan
> ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
>
> Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV
> file bounced back to me.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
> Cc: <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat
>> community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite
>> satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a
>> cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the
>> spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with
>> Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
>>
>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> Stefan,
>>> With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO?
>>> I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say.
>>> But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot.
>>> De Peter, NH6VB
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
>>>> From: wageners@xxxxx.xxx
>>>> To: arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx
>>>> CC: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!!!!
>>>>
>>>> I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they
>>>> are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs
>>>> with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
>>>>
>>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:12:58 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Peter Guelzow" <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>,	"Stefan Wagener"
<wageners@xxxxx.xxx>,	"nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	"KM9U" <arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx>, "P. Thomas Gabel"
<ktgab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <000801cc9068$808ca040$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Charles ,KM9U

There are two possible outcomes:

If you have a HEO satellite working with many transponders from the VHF
to the K band like on AO40 you must became a microwave experimenter and
this is the purpose of the Amateur Radio.

On the reverse side if you use only your cell phone or internet.....Skype
you are not an Amateur Radio

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "KM9U" <arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "nh6vb
Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>; "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released


> Now I understand!
> Why should we support AMSAT. I already have a cell phone. I could give you
> my number. We could set up a conference call. Everyone can talk and listen
> ...worldwide....and interrupt each other....for a lot less cost than
> putting up our own satellite. Better yet... there is the
> internet...Skype...complete with video. We can talk all over the world.
> Why should we spend money on our own satellites when somebody else
>  has already paid the bill? No pile-ups,...Problem solved.   :-))
>
> KM9U...just a fellow amateur wondering why. ;-))
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: i8cvs
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 21:54
> To: AMSAT-BB ; nh6vb Scheller ; Stefan Wagener
> Cc: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
> Hi Peter,NH6VB
>
> I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening
> on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat
> and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
>
> To give  Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent
> to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in
> wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like
> into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality
> for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt
> each other at the same time.
>
> Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan
> ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
>
> Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV
> file bounced back to me.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
> Cc: <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat
> > community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite
> > satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a
> > cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the
> > spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with
> > Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
> >
> > Stefan, VE4NSA
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> > > Stefan,
> > > With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO?
> > > I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say.
> > > But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot.
> > > De Peter, NH6VB
> > >
> > >> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
> > >> From: wageners@xxxxx.xxx
> > >> To: arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx
> > >> CC: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
> > >>
> > >> Thank you!!!!
> > >>
> > >> I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least
> > >> they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio
> > >> amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
> > >>
> > >> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 06:11:42 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Peter Guelzow" <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>, "amsat-bb"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	"Bruce" <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Message-ID: <000701cc9070$b4a2b240$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Bruce,KK5DO

AMSAT-DL is working very hard on P3-E and P5-A and in the near future they
will be able to launch P3-E

Work on P3-E is continuing and AMSAT-DL is busy looking for launch
possibilities and other ways for financing it, i.e. on coat-tails of the
P5 Mars Mission.

Indeed, P3-E is not a dream but a reality and AMSAT-DL need the support of
the community.

There will only a P3-E, if we all really want it..

If you want to support P3-E, than please visit
http://www.p3e-satellite.org/?lang=en_EN and make a direct donation to
the project - THANKS!

73" de

i8CVS Domenico


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released


i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website.
http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html

problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were
fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what
is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it.

if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and
they will construct a heo for you to launch.

otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those
building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not
without a lot of money.

73...bruce

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:

> Hi Peter,NH6VB
>
> I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening
> on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat
> and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
>
> To give  Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent
> to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in
> wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like
> into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality
> for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt
> each other at the same time.
>
> Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan
> ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
>
> Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV
> file bounced back to me.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
> Cc: <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat
>> community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite
>> satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a
>> cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the
>> spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with
>> Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
>>
>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> Stefan,
>>> With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO?
>>> I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say.
>>> But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot.
>>> De Peter, NH6VB
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
>>>> From: wageners@xxxxx.xxx
>>>> To: arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx
>>>> CC: w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!!!!
>>>>
>>>> I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they
>>>> are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs
>>>> with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
>>>>
>>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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